"Fred J. McCall" wrote in message
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Curly Surmudgeon wrote:

:On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 11:07:11 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:
:
: hk wrote:
:
: :Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : wf3h wrote:
: : :
: : :c'mon harry...don't you have the $5,000,000 that mccain says makes
: : :you middle class?
: : :
: :
: : I think that's a great level at which to say taxes shouldn't be
: : increased.
: :
: : You WANT to pay more taxes? I think we need a program that lets you
: : folks pick your own tax rate and not steal from the rest of us...
: :
: :
: :I think anyone with income of more than $5 million a year ought to be
: aying twice the amount of taxes they're paying now.
: :
:
: Why?
:
:The proper question, to both of you, is "Why should the rich pay _more_
OR
:_less_ than the poor?"
:

And the answer is "they shouldn't". Income tax should essentially be
like a tithe; everyone pays the same percentage (and you only tax the
income ONCE).


yes they should. they get more ao they pay more. taxes aren't punishment as
you wingnuts like to pretend. its what keeps the country running.
you take more you pay more.

"Fred J. McCall" wrote in message
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"Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute."
-- Charles Pinckney


of course when mr pinckney uttered that famous line we were paying the
barbary pirates not to attack our ships

On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:46:06 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:

Curly Surmudgeon wrote:

:On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 11:07:11 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:
:
: hk wrote:
:
: :Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : wf3h wrote:
: : :
: : :c'mon harry...don't you have the $5,000,000 that mccain says makes
: : :you middle class?
: : :
: : :
: : I think that's a great level at which to say taxes shouldn't be
: : increased.
: :
: : You WANT to pay more taxes? I think we need a program that lets you
: : folks pick your own tax rate and not steal from the rest of us...
: :
: :
: :I think anyone with income of more than $5 million a year ought to be
: aying twice the amount of taxes they're paying now.
: :
: :
: Why?
:
:The proper question, to both of you, is "Why should the rich pay _more_
:OR _less_ than the poor?"
:
:
And the answer is "they shouldn't". Income tax should essentially be like
a tithe; everyone pays the same percentage (and you only tax the income
ONCE).

Agreed.

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On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:05:55 -0400, Raymond O'Hara wrote:


"Fred J. McCall" wrote in message
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Curly Surmudgeon wrote:

:On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 11:07:11 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:
:
: hk wrote:
:
: :Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : wf3h wrote:
: : :
: : :c'mon harry...don't you have the $5,000,000 that mccain says
: : :makes you middle class?
: : :
: : :
: : I think that's a great level at which to say taxes shouldn't be
: : increased.
: :
: : You WANT to pay more taxes? I think we need a program that lets
: : you folks pick your own tax rate and not steal from the rest of
: : us...
: :
: :
: :I think anyone with income of more than $5 million a year ought to
: :be paying twice the amount of taxes they're paying now.
: :
: :
: Why?
:
:The proper question, to both of you, is "Why should the rich pay _more_
OR
:_less_ than the poor?"
:
:
And the answer is "they shouldn't". Income tax should essentially be
like a tithe; everyone pays the same percentage (and you only tax the
income ONCE).


yes they should. they get more ao they pay more. taxes aren't punishment
as you wingnuts like to pretend. its what keeps the country running. you
take more you pay more.

Supporting a level playing field is not a sign of being a "wingnut."
Giving the rich tax avoidance legislation or a "progressive" taxation
in which the least productive become trapped on welfare.

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"Fred J. McCall" wrote in message
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Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
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:What does orientation or sexual preference have to do with McCain's lies?
:

What lies would those be?

:
:McCain, the "straight talker" took on Karl Rove as an advisor
:

Speaking of lies, there's one.

Just when did this happen?



yeah he only hired all of roves boys, just like rive never talks to bush
those guys never talk to rove.
oh and by the way, rove is an advisor for mccain
Karl Rove, the president's top political hand since his Texas days, recently
gave money to McCain and soon after had a private conversation with the
senator. A top McCain adviser said both Mehlman and Rove are now informally
advising the campaign. Rove refused to detail his conversation with McCain.
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.c...6F9CBBFFC54DE3



:
:... and now his campaign has gone negative,
:

But not until after all the smears from the other side going into the
Republican Convention.

you like all republicans have an amazing ability to deny the facts.
and now that obama is finally fighting back against the many and legion lies
coming from the mccain camp its the dems going negative.

"David E. Powell" wrote in message
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Baba Wawa acted like her servants delivered her cold coffee or
something. What a maroon.

Why, because she called McCain out on his lies?

On Sep 13, 1:07*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
hk wrote:
:Fred J. McCall wrote:
: wf3h wrote:

: :
: :c'mon *harry...don't you have the $5,000,000 that mccain says makes
: :you middle class?
: :
:
: I think that's a great level at which to say taxes shouldn't be
: increased.
:
: You WANT to pay more taxes? *I think we need a program that lets you
: folks pick your own tax rate and not steal from the rest of us...
:
:
:I think anyone with income of more than $5 million a year ought to be
aying twice the amount of taxes they're paying now.
:

Why?

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why not? the largest increase in marginal tax rates occurs on the
middle class. the wealthy get a tax rate of 15% on capital gains
(which is alot less than the middle class pays) AND gets to write off
losses. they get the best of all worlds.

"Raymond O'Hara" wrote in message
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On Sep 12, 3:29 pm, HK wrote:
John McCain
McCain Gets an Earful on 'The View'

By Robert Barnes and Michael D. Shear
Washington Post First

Republican presidential nominee John McCain told the hosts of ABC's
"The
View" today that his running mate Sarah Palin had never sought earmarks
from Congress while she was governor of Alaska, even though she had in
fact asked for about $200 million for projects in her state and
employed
a lobbyist to help.

McCain at times faces tough questioning and commentary from the five
female hosts of the popular morning show, with Joy Behar questioning
two
ads he is running against Democratic rival Barack Obama.

"We know that those two ads are untrue,'' Behar said. "They are lies.''
She was referring to two heavily criticized McCain ads, one that
criticizes Obama's support of sex education, and another that says he
was being disrespectful of Palin for his comment that McCain's call for
change was like putting lipstick on a pig.

McCain said they "are not lies" and defended them.

Barbara Walters jumped in to note that McCain had made the lipstick on
a
pig comment, too, about Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's health care
proposal.

"About health care," McCain said, referring to his own comments. "He
(Obama) chooses his words very carefully. He shouldn't have said it."

McCain has portrayed Palin as a reformer unwilling to accept pork from
Washington.

But Walters and Behar pressed.

"She also took some earmarks,'' Walters said.

"A lot," Behar added.

"No, not as governor she didn't,'' McCain responded.

The Obama campaign quickly produced a sheaf of newspaper articles
indicating otherwise, such as a Sept. 2 Washington Post article that
said the governor's administration "remains eager for many other
earmarks. In February, Palin's office sent Sen. (Ted) Stevens a 70-page
memo outlining almost $200 million worth of new funding requests for
Alaska."

Walters was a particularly aggressive questioner, about Palin's
qualifications and whether McCain was still the maverick he claimed to
be.

She asked repeatedly what Palin was supposed to reform about
Washington.

"The Republican Party. The Democratic Party. She's going to reform all
of Washington," McCain said.

"What specifically?" Walters asked

McCain mentioned Palin selling the state airplane.

"She sold the airplane at a loss," Walters said.

Behar jumped in: "You used to be sort of the maverick. Then you sort of
turned."

Asked McCain: "In what way?"

Behar said, "You sort of became more in lock step..."

"I'm the same person as I always was," said McCain.

McCain also drew scattered boos from the audience when he said he
thought Roe v. Wade was "a very bad decision.''

Things got a bit better when Cindy McCain joined her husband on the
show's final segment.

Asked why McCain should be president, she said, "for the obvious
reasons" and then said he is a "measured man" who always puts his
country first.

Host Elisabeth Hasselbeck asked Cindy McCain whether there were were
areas where the two disagreed.

McCain leaned over and said, "Never."

She answered, "He and I do see eye to eye on most things."

Even Biden thinks Obimbo has poor judgement saying that Hillary would
have been a better choice for VP. Harry, you still want to place that
bet that the VP candidate will quit? No, not Palin you idiot, I mean
Biden, replaced by hillary.




McCain was exposed as the lying hypocrite he was,
and the fact you try to change the subject shows you understand that.

And what Biden said was:
"Make no mistake about this," Biden responded. "Hillary Clinton is as
qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United
States of America. Let's get that straight. She's a truly close personal
friend, she is qualified to be president of the United States of America,
she's easily qualified to be vice president of the United States of
America,
and quite frankly, . it might have been a better pick than me. But she's
first rate, I mean that sincerely, she's first rate, so let's get that
straight."


It's called being gracious and showing humility, something you as a
repugnut
would never understand.

Good one! All right, Ray! He shoots, he scores!

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On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:47:56 -0400, hk wrote:

wrote:
On Sep 12, 3:29?pm, HK wrote:
John McCain
McCain Gets an Earful on 'The View'

By Robert Barnes and Michael D. Shear
Washington Post First

Republican presidential nominee John McCain told the hosts of ABC's
"The
View" today that his running mate Sarah Palin had never sought
earmarks
from Congress while she was governor of Alaska, even though she had in
fact asked for about $200 million for projects in her state and
employed
a lobbyist to help.

McCain at times faces tough questioning and commentary from the five
female hosts of the popular morning show, with Joy Behar questioning
two
ads he is running against Democratic rival Barack Obama.

"We know that those two ads are untrue,'' Behar said. "They are
lies.''
She was referring to two heavily criticized McCain ads, one that
criticizes Obama's support of sex education, and another that says he
was being disrespectful of Palin for his comment that McCain's call
for
change was like putting lipstick on a pig.

McCain said they "are not lies" and defended them.

Barbara Walters jumped in to note that McCain had made the lipstick on
a
pig comment, too, about Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's health care
proposal.

"About health care," McCain said, referring to his own comments. "He
(Obama) chooses his words very carefully. He shouldn't have said it."

McCain has portrayed Palin as a reformer unwilling to accept pork from
Washington.

But Walters and Behar pressed.

"She also took some earmarks,'' Walters said.

"A lot," Behar added.


The girls also asked how many houses the McCain's own. The McCains
nevered answered the question. Cindy, under the influence of sedatives
and something else, said she is fortunate for her father and tries to
help those less fortunate, although she only gave less than 1% to
charity and spent over $200,000 on cosmedic surgery last year
(according the Enquirer).



$200,000 on cosmetic surgery? Hehehe.

A mortician could have made her look more natural and life-like than
that for a lot less money.

Zing!!

On Sep 13, 7:46*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
the poor?"
:

And the answer is "they shouldn't". *Income tax should essentially be
like a tithe; everyone pays the same percentage (and you only tax the
income ONCE).

nope. won't work. the middle class has certain basic expenses that
consume a far larger portion of their income versus the extremely
wealthy. a flat tax would decrease the viability of the middle class