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On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 03:24:44 +0000, Ray Fischer wrote:
wrote: On Sep 16, 8:39*am, wf3h wrote: On Sep 15, 11:29*pm, wrote: On Sep 15, 11:40*pm, wf3h wrote: On Sep 15, 9:55*pm, wrote: The truth of your free health care is that I get to pay for mine and I get to pay for yours which you do now. it's just more expensive now than it would be under universal care. I get first dibs at the doctors under the present system. *And why shouldn't I? *I'm paying for it. so you enjoy having average health care for inflated prices? I enjoy paying my own way. Even if it costs you half again as much. Half? Try 3x or 4x if health care were truly reformed removing the FDA and AMA monopolies. Making health care affordable would eliminate these debates and discussions from the table. Sucker. yep sounds republican. Yeh, that whole, ummm, personal responsibility thingy really upsets some folks. If you're so in favor of "personal responsibility" then why don't you insist on higher taxes? Under the squirrels and the hawkes system, I pay for theirs and I pay for mine, and some else says who gets dibs on appointments and treatments. never heard of an HMO did you? they tell you what doctors you'll go to, what treatment they'll pay for, etc. I could have selected the HMO route and paid less. Instead I selected a Preferred Choice plan. As opposed to paying your own way? you really HAVE swallowed the GOP kool aid, haven't you? you don't have control over your health care at all. your boss does. your insurance company does. As it stands now, I can change plans and I can change bosses. And if you get sick or injured and can't work, you can't get any plan, you can't get any job, and you and your family go broke. The leading cause of personal bankruptcies is medical emergencies. Second leading cause, yes! -- Regards, Curly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I Love Republicans, They Taste Just Like Chickenhawks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ .................................................. ............... Posted via TITANnews - Uncensored Newsgroups Access at http://www.TitanNews.com -=Every Newsgroup - Anonymous, UNCENSORED, BROADBAND Downloads=- |
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Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote: wrote: so you enjoy having average health care for inflated prices? I enjoy paying my own way. Even if it costs you half again as much. Half? Try 3x or 4x if health care were truly reformed removing the FDA and AMA monopolies. The per capita cost of health care in the US is 50% more than any other industrial nation. As it stands now, I can change plans and I can change bosses. And if you get sick or injured and can't work, you can't get any plan, you can't get any job, and you and your family go broke. The leading cause of personal bankruptcies is medical emergencies. Second leading cause, yes! Illness and medical bills caused half of the 1,458,000 personal bankruptcies in 2001, according to a study published by the journal Health Affairs. http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...tcy_study.html -- Ray Fischer |
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On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 02:15:33 +0000, Ray Fischer wrote:
Curly Surmudgeon wrote: Ray Fischer wrote: wrote: so you enjoy having average health care for inflated prices? I enjoy paying my own way. Even if it costs you half again as much. Half? Try 3x or 4x if health care were truly reformed removing the FDA and AMA monopolies. The per capita cost of health care in the US is 50% more than any other industrial nation. I'm not contesting your numbers, I'm asserting that costs could be one-half to one-quarter of current values. As it stands now, I can change plans and I can change bosses. And if you get sick or injured and can't work, you can't get any plan, you can't get any job, and you and your family go broke. The leading cause of personal bankruptcies is medical emergencies. Second leading cause, yes! Illness and medical bills caused half of the 1,458,000 personal bankruptcies in 2001, according to a study published by the journal Health Affairs. http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...tcy_study.html That was true in 2005. Don't have the cites at hand but recently read a news article which said that personal, mainly credit card, debt was due to the bad economy. -- Regards, Curly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I Love Republicans, They Taste Just Like Chickenhawks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ .................................................. ............... Posted via TITANnews - Uncensored Newsgroups Access at http://www.TitanNews.com -=Every Newsgroup - Anonymous, UNCENSORED, BROADBAND Downloads=- |
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On Sep 17, 10:15*pm, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Curly Surmudgeon wrote: Ray Fischer wrote: wrote: so you enjoy having average health care for inflated prices? I enjoy paying my own way. Even if it costs you half again as much. Half? *Try 3x or 4x if health care were truly reformed removing the FDA and AMA monopolies. The per capita cost of health care in the US is 50% more than any other industrial nation. Are you sure you don't want to go with the little squirrels numbers? It makes health care sound like it's even more of a problem, which is his goal. Energize the vote and all that. As it stands now, I can change plans and I can change bosses. And if you get sick or injured and can't work, you can't get any plan, you can't get any job, and you and your family go broke. The leading cause of personal bankruptcies is medical emergencies. Second leading cause, yes! * * Illness and medical bills caused half of the 1,458,000 personal * * bankruptcies in 2001, according to a study published by the * * journal Health Affairs. * *http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...tcy_study.html Hmmmm? Bankruptcies in 2001 were probably from costs incurred in 2000. Why didn't Bill Clinton take better care of America? |
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