On Sep 11, 7:04*pm, "Tom Gardner" wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote in .. . jimz wrote:
I don't want this to happen again.
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=8mKpOKK5S_U

CLINTON dropped the ball on this one.

snip

How come you don't address the fact that Clinton could have gotten OBL a
number of times but didn't? *Was it above his pay grade? *(Good thing OBL
didn't change his name to "Vince Foster")

Don't confuse Ms Carrol with the ugly truth.

wrote:
On Sep 11, 7:04 pm, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:
"John R. Carroll"
wrote in
.. .
jimz wrote:
I don't want this to happen again.
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=8mKpOKK5S_U

CLINTON dropped the ball on this one.

snip

How come you don't address the fact that Clinton could
have gotten
OBL a
number of times but didn't? Was it above his pay grade?
(Good thing
OBL
didn't change his name to "Vince Foster")

Don't confuse Ms Carrol with the ugly truth.

Your "truth" is a lie told originally by NewsMax. Read the
9/11 Commission Report for the truth.

http://www.9-11commission.gov/staff_...tatement_5.pdf
(bottom of page 3):

"These contacts with Sudan, which went on for years, have
become a source of controversy. Former Sudanese officials
claim that Sudan offered to expel Bin Ladin to the United
States. Clinton administration officials deny ever receiving
such an offer. We have not found any reliable evidence to
support the Sudanese claim."

CLINTON dropped the ball on this one.

snip

How come you don't address the fact that Clinton could
have gotten
OBL a
number of times but didn't? Was it above his pay grade?
(Good thing
OBL
didn't change his name to "Vince Foster")

Don't confuse Ms Carrol with the ugly truth.

Your "truth" is a lie told originally by NewsMax. Read the
9/11 Commission Report for the truth.

http://www.9-11commission.gov/staff_...tatement_5.pdf
(bottom of page 3):


If you think that by informing our right wingers of the truth about the
subject it will have any effect on their beliefs you are out of your mind.
The point is those guys don't care about the truth so informing them won't
do any good. They believe what they want to believe and even if you show
them they are wrong they still won't change their minds. That's just the way
they are.

Hawke

Hawke wrote:

How come you don't address the fact that Clinton could
have gotten
OBL a
number of times but didn't? Was it above his pay grade?
(Good thing
OBL
didn't change his name to "Vince Foster")
Don't confuse Ms Carrol with the ugly truth.
Your "truth" is a lie told originally by NewsMax. Read the
9/11 Commission Report for the truth.

Apparently the Commission didn't hear Bubba when he said it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvo2lQe81xk


technomaNge
--
Obama - raises taxes and kills babies.
Sarah Palin - raises babies and kills taxes.

technomaNge wrote:
Hawke wrote:

How come you don't address the fact that Clinton could
have gotten
OBL a
number of times but didn't? Was it above his pay grade?
(Good thing
OBL
didn't change his name to "Vince Foster")
Don't confuse Ms Carrol with the ugly truth.
Your "truth" is a lie told originally by NewsMax. Read the
9/11 Commission Report for the truth.

Apparently the Commission didn't hear Bubba when he said it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvo2lQe81xk

Well, it was the Bush administration's commision wasn't it?

http://www.9-11commission.gov/staff_...tatement_5.pdf
(bottom of page 3):

--

John R. Carroll
www.machiningsolution.com

John R. Carroll wrote:
technomaNge wrote:
Hawke wrote:

How come you don't address the fact that Clinton could
have gotten
OBL a
number of times but didn't? Was it above his pay grade?
(Good thing
OBL
didn't change his name to "Vince Foster")
Don't confuse Ms Carrol with the ugly truth.
Your "truth" is a lie told originally by NewsMax. Read the
9/11 Commission Report for the truth.
Apparently the Commission didn't hear Bubba when he said it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvo2lQe81xk

Well, it was the Bush administration's commision wasn't it?

http://www.9-11commission.gov/staff_...tatement_5.pdf
(bottom of page 3):


Perhaps, but you are changing the subject. Little Chicken said
upstream that it was a lie, told by NewsMax. This just proves
that the tweet is full of feathers, as usual.


technomaNge
--
Obama - raises taxes and kills babies.
Sarah Palin - raises babies and kills taxes.

On Sep 12, 5:14*pm, "Hawke" wrote:
CLINTON dropped the ball on this one.

snip

How come you don't address the fact that Clinton could
have gotten
OBL a
number of times but didn't? Was it above his pay grade?
(Good thing
OBL
didn't change his name to "Vince Foster")

Don't confuse Ms Carrol with the ugly truth.

Your "truth" is a lie told originally by NewsMax. *Read the
9/11 Commission Report for the truth.

http://www.9-11commission.gov/staff_...tatement_5.pdf
(bottom of page 3):

If you think that by informing our right wingers of the truth about the
subject it will have any effect on their beliefs you are out of your mind..
The point is those guys don't care about the truth so informing them won't
do any good. They believe what they want to believe and even if you show
them they are wrong they still won't change their minds. That's just the way
they are.

Hawke

The truth of your free health care is that I get to pay for mine and I
get to pay for yours.

On Sep 15, 9:55*pm, wrote:


The truth of your free health care is that I get to pay for mine and I
get to pay for yours

which you do now. it's just more expensive now than it would be under
universal care.

of course, if you lose your job and don't want health care, just
refuse it...for you and your kids. i won't mind

On Sep 15, 11:40*pm, wf3h wrote:
On Sep 15, 9:55*pm, wrote:



The truth of your free health care is that I get to pay for mine and I
get to pay for yours

which you do now. it's just more expensive now than it would be under
universal care.

I get first dibs at the doctors under the present system. And why
shouldn't I? I'm paying for it.

Under the squirrels and the hawkes system, I pay for theirs and I pay
for mine, and some else says who gets dibs on appointments and
treatments.

of course, if you lose your job and don't want health care, just
refuse it...for you and your kids. i won't mind

That, in part, is what motivates me to keep working. If only we could
motivate the little squirrel and the little hawke to work...

wrote:
On Sep 12, 5:14 pm, "Hawke" wrote:
CLINTON dropped the ball on this one.

snip

How come you don't address the fact that Clinton could
have gotten
OBL a
number of times but didn't? Was it above his pay grade?
(Good thing
OBL
didn't change his name to "Vince Foster")

Don't confuse Ms Carrol with the ugly truth.

Your "truth" is a lie told originally by NewsMax. Read the
9/11 Commission Report for the truth.

http://www.9-11commission.gov/staff_...tatement_5.pdf
(bottom of page 3):

If you think that by informing our right wingers of the truth about
the subject it will have any effect on their beliefs you are out of
your mind. The point is those guys don't care about the truth so
informing them won't do any good. They believe what they want to
believe and even if you show them they are wrong they still won't
change their minds. That's just the way they are.

Hawke

The truth of your free health care is that I get to pay for mine and I
get to pay for yours.

A study coming out Tuesday from scholars at Columbia, Harvard, Purdue and
Michigan projects that 20 million Americans who have employment-based health
insurance would lose it under the McCain plan.

There is nothing secret about Senator McCain's far-reaching proposals, but
they haven't gotten much attention because the chatter in this campaign has
mostly been about nonsense - lipstick, celebrities and "Drill, baby, drill!"

For starters, the McCain health plan would treat employer-paid health
benefits as income that employees would have to pay taxes on.

"It means your employer is going to have to make an estimate on how much the
employer is paying for health insurance on your behalf, and you are going to
have to pay taxes on that money," said Sherry Glied, an economist who chairs
the Department of Health Policy and Management at Columbia University's
Mailman School of Public Health.

Ms. Glied is one of the four scholars who have just completed an independent
joint study of the plan. Their findings are being published on the Web site
of the policy journal, Health Affairs.

http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2008/0...ice-the-price/

According to the study: "The McCain plan will force millions of Americans
into the weakest segment of the private insurance system - the nongroup
market - where cost-sharing is high, covered services are limited and people
will lose access to benefits they have now."

The net effect of the plan, the study said, "almost certainly will be to
increase family costs for medical care."

Under the McCain plan (now the McCain-Palin plan) employees who continue to
receive employer-paid health benefits would look at their pay stubs each
week or each month and find that additional money had been withheld to cover
the taxes on the value of their benefits.




--

John R. Carroll
www.machiningsolution.com