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wf3h September 11th 08 09:57 PM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Sep 11, 11:55*am, Cliff wrote:
[
I'm voting republican because...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiQJ9Xp0xxU
]


i'm not rich, or religious enough to vote republican. i work for a
living.

Eisboch September 11th 08 10:04 PM

I'm voting republican because...
 

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Sep 11, 11:55 am, Cliff wrote:
[
I'm voting republican because...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiQJ9Xp0xxU
]


i'm not rich, or religious enough to vote republican. i work for a
living.


Keep the faith, work hard, vote Republican ..... and you may become rich.

Eisboch



JimH[_2_] September 11th 08 10:39 PM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Sep 11, 4:57*pm, wf3h wrote:
On Sep 11, 11:55*am, Cliff wrote:

[
I'm voting republican because...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiQJ9Xp0xxU
]


i'm not rich, or religious enough to vote republican. i work for a
living.


You need to run for the US Congress:

http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/overview.php

http://redstateamerican.wordpress.co...s-of-congress/


HK September 11th 08 10:47 PM

I'm voting republican because...
 
JimH wrote:
On Sep 11, 4:57 pm, wf3h wrote:
On Sep 11, 11:55 am, Cliff wrote:

[
I'm voting republican because...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiQJ9Xp0xxU
]

i'm not rich, or religious enough to vote republican. i work for a
living.


You need to run for the US Congress:

http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/overview.php

http://redstateamerican.wordpress.co...s-of-congress/



I'm not dumb enough to vote for McBush or what has turned out to be the
lying pitbull wearing lipstick.

wf3h September 12th 08 02:33 PM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Sep 11, 4:04*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

...
On Sep 11, 11:55 am, Cliff wrote:

[
I'm voting republican because...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiQJ9Xp0xxU
]


i'm not rich, or religious enough to vote republican. i work for a
living.

Keep the faith, work hard, vote Republican ..... and you may become rich.


another popular myth fostered by the GOP to keep trailer trash in
their place

i used to work for ATT until they laid off 100,000 workers. you were
saying about 'working hard'?

Eisboch September 12th 08 03:05 PM

I'm voting republican because...
 

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Sep 11, 4:04 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

...
On Sep 11, 11:55 am, Cliff wrote:

[
I'm voting republican because...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiQJ9Xp0xxU
]


i'm not rich, or religious enough to vote republican. i work for a
living.

Keep the faith, work hard, vote Republican ..... and you may become rich.


another popular myth fostered by the GOP to keep trailer trash in
their place

i used to work for ATT until they laid off 100,000 workers. you were
saying about 'working hard'?


Happens all the time, in all businesses, for all kinds of reasons. My son's
father-in-law worked all his life for the Boston Globe. Belonged to
whatever union applied. For obvious reasons, the print media is making
major cutbacks, just like I am sure ATT had to in order to stay in business.
The Globe offered very generous early retirement packages to those with many
years of service. His union decided to fight to the end, trying to get more
and he almost lost his job plus the package. Fortunately, some of us
talked some sense into his head and he accepted the day before the offer
expired. Now retired and enjoying life.

The secret is: Make yourself valuable and don't put all your eggs in one
basket.

BTW, I am not particularly anti-union. For some it's a good way to make up
for a lack of self-reliance, I guess. I just never had any need for the
safety net of a union, either to negotiate my pay and benefits or guarantee
my job. As a former business owner, we had many tradespeople, most of whom
were former union members at one point or another, who much preferred the
culture, benefits and working environment of our non-union shop.

Eisboch




HK September 12th 08 03:05 PM

I'm voting republican because...
 
wf3h wrote:
On Sep 11, 4:04 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

...
On Sep 11, 11:55 am, Cliff wrote:

[
I'm voting republican because...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiQJ9Xp0xxU
]

i'm not rich, or religious enough to vote republican. i work for a
living.

Keep the faith, work hard, vote Republican ..... and you may become rich.


another popular myth fostered by the GOP to keep trailer trash in
their place

i used to work for ATT until they laid off 100,000 workers. you were
saying about 'working hard'?



Indeed, work your ass off for an American corporation and then, when it
suits the corporation, it cuts your health care, dumps your retirement
and then ships your job off to China.

We obviously need to change the way the game is played.

wf3h September 14th 08 03:04 PM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Sep 12, 9:05*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

...
On Sep 11, 4:04 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:





"wf3h" wrote in message


...
On Sep 11, 11:55 am, Cliff wrote:


[
I'm voting republican because...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiQJ9Xp0xxU
]


i'm not rich, or religious enough to vote republican. i work for a
living.


Keep the faith, work hard, vote Republican ..... and you may become rich.


another popular myth fostered by the GOP to keep trailer trash in
their place

i used to work for ATT until they laid off 100,000 workers. you were
saying about 'working hard'?

Happens all the time, in all businesses, for all kinds of reasons. *My son's
father-in-law worked all his life for the Boston Globe. *Belonged to
whatever union applied. *For obvious reasons, the print media is making
major cutbacks, just like I am sure ATT had to in order to stay in business.
The Globe offered very generous early retirement packages to those with many
years of service. *His union decided to fight to the end, trying to get more
and he almost lost his job plus the package. * Fortunately, some of us
talked some sense into his head and he accepted the day before the offer
expired. *Now retired and enjoying life.

The secret is: * Make yourself valuable and don't put all your eggs in one
basket.

BTW, I am not particularly anti-union. *For some it's a good way to make up
for a lack of self-reliance, I guess.


i love when when right wing shills say this

so when ATT laid off 100,000 people, including some of the world's
best scientists....when TI laid off PhD scientists with degrees from
CalTech, and Princeton....those folks were failures, i suppose

your belief in corporate infalibility is quite touching. not since i
believed in santa claus have i seen such faith...


*I just never had any need for the
safety net of a union, either to negotiate my pay and benefits or guarantee
my job. *


tell it to the folks at enron who lost their jobs by corporate
malfeasance...or bear stearns, or countrywide financial. you have an
eqo probem that prevents you from seeing reality

IOW you're a republican.


As a former business owner, we had many tradespeople, most of whom
were former union members at one point or another, who much preferred the
culture, benefits and working environment of our non-union shop.


as i said...the GOP has fostered an anti union attitude in this county
and you're living proof. you believe in a fairy tale. you think you
control your own future

wrong.

wf3h September 14th 08 03:05 PM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Sep 12, 9:05*am, hk wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Sep 11, 4:04 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message


....
On Sep 11, 11:55 am, Cliff wrote:


[
I'm voting republican because...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiQJ9Xp0xxU
]
i'm not rich, or religious enough to vote republican. i work for a
living.


Keep the faith, work hard, vote Republican ..... and you may become rich.


another popular myth fostered by the GOP to keep trailer trash in
their place


i used to work for ATT until they laid off 100,000 workers. you were
saying about 'working hard'?


Indeed, work your ass off for an American corporation and then, when it
suits the corporation, it cuts your health care, dumps your retirement
and then ships your job off to China.


according to eisboch and bush...this is god's will. it does, after
all, make the rich richer.

Eisboch September 14th 08 03:08 PM

I'm voting republican because...
 

"wf3h" wrote in message
...

as i said...the GOP has fostered an anti union attitude in this county
and you're living proof. you believe in a fairy tale. you think you
control your own future

wrong.

------------------------

Nope. I do control my own future, within the constraints imposed by laws,
taxes, etc.

IOW .... instead of constantly bitching about it ... I found ways to make it
work. It's not hard.

Eisboch



Eisboch September 14th 08 03:23 PM

I'm voting republican because...
 

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Sep 12, 9:05 am, hk wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Sep 11, 4:04 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message


...
On Sep 11, 11:55 am, Cliff wrote:


[
I'm voting republican because...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiQJ9Xp0xxU
]
i'm not rich, or religious enough to vote republican. i work for a
living.


Keep the faith, work hard, vote Republican ..... and you may become
rich.


another popular myth fostered by the GOP to keep trailer trash in
their place


i used to work for ATT until they laid off 100,000 workers. you were
saying about 'working hard'?


Indeed, work your ass off for an American corporation and then, when it
suits the corporation, it cuts your health care, dumps your retirement
and then ships your job off to China.


according to eisboch and bush...this is god's will. it does, after
all, make the rich richer.

---------------------------------------

This is comical. Another standard, preprogrammed liberal response.

My DIL is a hard core, ultra liberal, a product of her equally liberal
California mother.
It's lots of fun debating issues with her because her responses are so
predictable ... to the point that I will whisper her response to a statement
I am about to make to someone else, before I make it. She parrots back the
predicted response almost 100% of the time.

Then, I start teasing her by responding with her words .... a fraction of a
second *before* she utters them. She sounds like a slight time delay repeat
of what I say.

It's always the standard, liberal lines. "John McCain voted 90% with Bush
..... (doesn't matter that so did most of Congress from both sides). Or
"McCain is just another four years of Bush".

I wish sometimes that people representing the left would come up with some
original thoughts or lines instead of parroting the same stuff they hear in
the media, day after day, week after week, month after month. As Russia
reemerges as a world power, terrorists still run around threatening our
lives, the economy is in deep doo-doo ..... the Dems have us focused on
lipstick.

Eisboch





HK September 14th 08 03:26 PM

I'm voting republican because...
 
Eisboch wrote:


I wish sometimes that people representing the left would come up with some
original thoughts or lines instead of parroting the same stuff they hear in
the media, day after day, week after week, month after month. As Russia
reemerges as a world power, terrorists still run around threatening our
lives, the economy is in deep doo-doo ..... the Dems have us focused on
lipstick.

Eisboch






Uh...it is Ms. Palin who brought up the lipstick issue and the
Republicans who tried to make a bigger issue of it.

Better the Republicans talk about lipstick than any serious issue.

wf3h September 14th 08 05:57 PM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Sep 14, 9:08*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

...

as i said...the GOP has fostered an anti union attitude in this county
and you're living proof. you believe in a fairy tale. you think you
control your own future

wrong.

------------------------

Nope. *I do control my own future, within the constraints imposed by laws,
taxes, etc.

IOW .... instead of constantly bitching about it ... I found ways to make it
work. *It's not hard.


so if your company lays you off and ships your job to china...and you
lose your house...

you control your future?

do you get a commission from the brothers grimm for writing these
fairy tales?

wf3h September 14th 08 06:01 PM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Sep 14, 9:23*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

...
On Sep 12, 9:05 am, hk wrote:





wf3h wrote:
On Sep 11, 4:04 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message


....
On Sep 11, 11:55 am, Cliff wrote:


[
I'm voting republican because...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiQJ9Xp0xxU
]
i'm not rich, or religious enough to vote republican. i work for a
living.


Keep the faith, work hard, vote Republican ..... and you may become
rich.


another popular myth fostered by the GOP to keep trailer trash in
their place


i used to work for ATT until they laid off 100,000 workers. you were
saying about 'working hard'?


Indeed, work your ass off for an American corporation and then, when it
suits the corporation, it cuts your health care, dumps your retirement
and then ships your job off to China.


according to eisboch and bush...this is god's will. it does, after
all, make the rich richer.

---------------------------------------

This is comical. * Another standard, preprogrammed liberal response.


says the right wing fairy tale puppet


My DIL is a hard core, ultra liberal, a product of her equally liberal
California mother.


zzzzzzzzzz.....


I wish sometimes that people representing the left would come up with some
original thoughts or lines instead of parroting the same stuff t


i presented the right wing shill with an actual case of 100,000 people
losing their jobs...including some of the world's best scientists...

his response? 'left wing propaganda'.

i suppose that, if you just ignore the bad stuff, it'll go away.

hey hear in
the media, day after day, week after week, month after month. * As Russia
reemerges as a world power, terrorists still run around threatening our
lives, the economy is in deep doo-doo ..... *the Dems have us focused on
lipstick.


ROFLMAO!!! if you read national review...the right wing rag...you'll
see THEY were the ones who went ballistic over lipstick. to them,
massive job losses...since they affect the middle class...are
irrelevant...

he doesn't even know the RIGHT wing party line let alone the left wing
line....

Calif Bill September 14th 08 08:47 PM

I'm voting republican because...
 

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Sep 14, 9:23 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

...
On Sep 12, 9:05 am, hk wrote:





wf3h wrote:
On Sep 11, 4:04 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message


...
On Sep 11, 11:55 am, Cliff wrote:


[
I'm voting republican because...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiQJ9Xp0xxU
]
i'm not rich, or religious enough to vote republican. i work for a
living.


Keep the faith, work hard, vote Republican ..... and you may become
rich.


another popular myth fostered by the GOP to keep trailer trash in
their place


i used to work for ATT until they laid off 100,000 workers. you were
saying about 'working hard'?


Indeed, work your ass off for an American corporation and then, when it
suits the corporation, it cuts your health care, dumps your retirement
and then ships your job off to China.


according to eisboch and bush...this is god's will. it does, after
all, make the rich richer.

---------------------------------------

This is comical. Another standard, preprogrammed liberal response.


says the right wing fairy tale puppet


My DIL is a hard core, ultra liberal, a product of her equally liberal
California mother.


zzzzzzzzzz.....


I wish sometimes that people representing the left would come up with some
original thoughts or lines instead of parroting the same stuff t


i presented the right wing shill with an actual case of 100,000 people
losing their jobs...including some of the world's best scientists...

his response? 'left wing propaganda'.

i suppose that, if you just ignore the bad stuff, it'll go away.

hey hear in
the media, day after day, week after week, month after month. As Russia
reemerges as a world power, terrorists still run around threatening our
lives, the economy is in deep doo-doo ..... the Dems have us focused on
lipstick.


ROFLMAO!!! if you read national review...the right wing rag...you'll
see THEY were the ones who went ballistic over lipstick. to them,
massive job losses...since they affect the middle class...are
irrelevant...

he doesn't even know the RIGHT wing party line let alone the left wing
line....

TI layed off a bunch of people because the market for chips tanked. I was
layed off from TI, because there was no money in the disk drive supply
business. So Silicon Systems was written off. Am I bitter. Nope, was the
7th layoff I went through. Most because I worked for a lot of startup
companies. And that is a crap shoot in the best of times. You get another
job. Just because you have a Phd does not mean you get lifetime employment.
Well except at a University.



Eisboch September 14th 08 08:59 PM

I'm voting republican because...
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...


Just because you have a Phd does not mean you get lifetime employment.
Well except at a University.



Most PhD's that I know should have never left the University.

(whoops .... hope ShortWave isn't lurking)

Eisboch



wf3h September 14th 08 09:52 PM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Sep 14, 2:47*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

...
On Sep 14, 9:23 am, "Eisboch" wrote:





"wf3h" wrote in message


he doesn't even know the RIGHT wing party line let alone the left wing
line....

TI layed off a bunch of people because the market for chips tanked.


so much for your assertion that, if you work hard, you'll get
rewarded. you can work your ass off and still get ****canned.

*I was
layed off from TI, because there was no money in the disk drive supply
business. *So Silicon Systems was written off. *Am I bitter. *Nope, was the
7th layoff I went through.


gee. and what does that routinely do when whole communities lose their
economic bases?

*Most because I worked for a lot of startup
companies. *And that is a crap shoot in the best of times. *You get another
job. *Just because you have a Phd does not mean you get lifetime employment.


sure it does. you just have to be a rich GOP contributor. then the
govt will protect you. if you're middle class, you're screwed

HK September 14th 08 10:05 PM

I'm voting republican because...
 
Eisboch wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...

Just because you have a Phd does not mean you get lifetime employment.
Well except at a University.



Most PhD's that I know should have never left the University.

(whoops .... hope ShortWave isn't lurking)

Eisboch




Most of the ones I know are making positive changes in this grim world.

D.Duck September 14th 08 10:14 PM

I'm voting republican because...
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...


Just because you have a Phd does not mean you get lifetime employment.
Well except at a University.



Most PhD's that I know should have never left the University.

(whoops .... hope ShortWave isn't lurking)

Eisboch


Isn't PhD, Piled Higher and Deeper?



Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] September 14th 08 11:25 PM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:59:02 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
om...


Just because you have a Phd does not mean you get lifetime employment.
Well except at a University.


Most PhD's that I know should have never left the University.

(whoops .... hope ShortWave isn't lurking)


HEY!!!!

Some of us overeducated morons live in the real world you know.

Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] September 15th 08 12:15 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:14:43 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...


Just because you have a Phd does not mean you get lifetime employment.
Well except at a University.



Most PhD's that I know should have never left the University.

(whoops .... hope ShortWave isn't lurking)

Eisboch


Isn't PhD, Piled Higher and Deeper?


There is a little secret which I will share with you and only you.

It's called "quote early and quote often".

First, you look through the papers of the review committee's, and the
chairman's, papers, books, dissertations and monographs for anything
that even remotely touches on the subject matter for your thesis. And
by remotely, I mean even if you have to make it up remotely.

Then, in your introduction, you make sure you thank, with foot notes
to papers, books, dissertations and monographs (including the chairman
of your department if he isn't serving on the committee) for
clarifying, elucidating and in general assisting you in the
preparation of your thesis and dissertation.

In the body of the dissertation, footnote the hell out of it only make
sure you quote one of the review committee members - the rest must be
real books, papers, dissertations and monographs but if doesn't matter
as long as you use something from everybody on the committee. Make one
page entirely for footnotes for the preceding page and do that every
ten or so pages following the above procedure.

Use graphs, obscure types of data sets and lots and lots of color -
distracts from the fact that most of what you are writing is pure page
filler. If it's not a hard science paper, then use flow charts and
pictographs.

In concluding, make it really short and simple with plenty of praise
for the pioneering back ground work, blah, blah, blah.

And that's how you write a successful dissertation. :)

Why, you might ask, does it work? Pretty simple actually - the morons
on the committee will only look for their due credit and will look
through the bibliography and footnote annotation for references to
their work. They can't very well discredit their own achievement can
they? :)

And before you ask, no - I did not.

Curly Surmudgeon September 15th 08 12:17 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 10:26:41 -0400, hk wrote:

Eisboch wrote:


I wish sometimes that people representing the left would come up with
some original thoughts or lines instead of parroting the same stuff they
hear in the media, day after day, week after week, month after month.
As Russia reemerges as a world power, terrorists still run around
threatening our lives, the economy is in deep doo-doo ..... the Dems
have us focused on lipstick.

Eisboch






Uh...it is Ms. Palin who brought up the lipstick issue and the Republicans
who tried to make a bigger issue of it.

Better the Republicans talk about lipstick than any serious issue.


That is the "Republican Way," to accuse their detractors of their own
tricks and lies. Rove taught them well but it's getting old, htey need a
new trick...

--
Regards, Curly
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D.Duck September 15th 08 12:24 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:14:43 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...


Just because you have a Phd does not mean you get lifetime employment.
Well except at a University.


Most PhD's that I know should have never left the University.

(whoops .... hope ShortWave isn't lurking)

Eisboch


Isn't PhD, Piled Higher and Deeper?


There is a little secret which I will share with you and only you.

It's called "quote early and quote often".

First, you look through the papers of the review committee's, and the
chairman's, papers, books, dissertations and monographs for anything
that even remotely touches on the subject matter for your thesis. And
by remotely, I mean even if you have to make it up remotely.

Then, in your introduction, you make sure you thank, with foot notes
to papers, books, dissertations and monographs (including the chairman
of your department if he isn't serving on the committee) for
clarifying, elucidating and in general assisting you in the
preparation of your thesis and dissertation.

In the body of the dissertation, footnote the hell out of it only make
sure you quote one of the review committee members - the rest must be
real books, papers, dissertations and monographs but if doesn't matter
as long as you use something from everybody on the committee. Make one
page entirely for footnotes for the preceding page and do that every
ten or so pages following the above procedure.

Use graphs, obscure types of data sets and lots and lots of color -
distracts from the fact that most of what you are writing is pure page
filler. If it's not a hard science paper, then use flow charts and
pictographs.

In concluding, make it really short and simple with plenty of praise
for the pioneering back ground work, blah, blah, blah.

And that's how you write a successful dissertation. :)

Why, you might ask, does it work? Pretty simple actually - the morons
on the committee will only look for their due credit and will look
through the bibliography and footnote annotation for references to
their work. They can't very well discredit their own achievement can
they? :)

And before you ask, no - I did not.


Hmmmm, my MSEE was muuuuch easier. 80



HK September 15th 08 12:29 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 
D.Duck wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:14:43 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...

Just because you have a Phd does not mean you get lifetime employment.
Well except at a University.

Most PhD's that I know should have never left the University.

(whoops .... hope ShortWave isn't lurking)

Eisboch
Isn't PhD, Piled Higher and Deeper?

There is a little secret which I will share with you and only you.

It's called "quote early and quote often".

First, you look through the papers of the review committee's, and the
chairman's, papers, books, dissertations and monographs for anything
that even remotely touches on the subject matter for your thesis. And
by remotely, I mean even if you have to make it up remotely.

Then, in your introduction, you make sure you thank, with foot notes
to papers, books, dissertations and monographs (including the chairman
of your department if he isn't serving on the committee) for
clarifying, elucidating and in general assisting you in the
preparation of your thesis and dissertation.

In the body of the dissertation, footnote the hell out of it only make
sure you quote one of the review committee members - the rest must be
real books, papers, dissertations and monographs but if doesn't matter
as long as you use something from everybody on the committee. Make one
page entirely for footnotes for the preceding page and do that every
ten or so pages following the above procedure.

Use graphs, obscure types of data sets and lots and lots of color -
distracts from the fact that most of what you are writing is pure page
filler. If it's not a hard science paper, then use flow charts and
pictographs.

In concluding, make it really short and simple with plenty of praise
for the pioneering back ground work, blah, blah, blah.

And that's how you write a successful dissertation. :)

Why, you might ask, does it work? Pretty simple actually - the morons
on the committee will only look for their due credit and will look
through the bibliography and footnote annotation for references to
their work. They can't very well discredit their own achievement can
they? :)

And before you ask, no - I did not.


Hmmmm, my MSEE was muuuuch easier. 80




One supposes that no one on his committee asked SW Tom questions,
because, well, he doesn't respond well to being questioned.


HK September 15th 08 12:30 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 
Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 10:26:41 -0400, hk wrote:

Eisboch wrote:

I wish sometimes that people representing the left would come up with
some original thoughts or lines instead of parroting the same stuff they
hear in the media, day after day, week after week, month after month.
As Russia reemerges as a world power, terrorists still run around
threatening our lives, the economy is in deep doo-doo ..... the Dems
have us focused on lipstick.

Eisboch





Uh...it is Ms. Palin who brought up the lipstick issue and the Republicans
who tried to make a bigger issue of it.

Better the Republicans talk about lipstick than any serious issue.


That is the "Republican Way," to accuse their detractors of their own
tricks and lies. Rove taught them well but it's getting old, htey need a
new trick...


It may be getting old, but you have to remember that the voting bloc
includes millions of Boobus Americanus types who vote Republican because
they like receiving anal intercourse.

Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] September 15th 08 12:46 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:24:14 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:14:43 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...


Just because you have a Phd does not mean you get lifetime employment.
Well except at a University.


Most PhD's that I know should have never left the University.

(whoops .... hope ShortWave isn't lurking)

Eisboch

Isn't PhD, Piled Higher and Deeper?


There is a little secret which I will share with you and only you.

It's called "quote early and quote often".

First, you look through the papers of the review committee's, and the
chairman's, papers, books, dissertations and monographs for anything
that even remotely touches on the subject matter for your thesis. And
by remotely, I mean even if you have to make it up remotely.

Then, in your introduction, you make sure you thank, with foot notes
to papers, books, dissertations and monographs (including the chairman
of your department if he isn't serving on the committee) for
clarifying, elucidating and in general assisting you in the
preparation of your thesis and dissertation.

In the body of the dissertation, footnote the hell out of it only make
sure you quote one of the review committee members - the rest must be
real books, papers, dissertations and monographs but if doesn't matter
as long as you use something from everybody on the committee. Make one
page entirely for footnotes for the preceding page and do that every
ten or so pages following the above procedure.

Use graphs, obscure types of data sets and lots and lots of color -
distracts from the fact that most of what you are writing is pure page
filler. If it's not a hard science paper, then use flow charts and
pictographs.

In concluding, make it really short and simple with plenty of praise
for the pioneering back ground work, blah, blah, blah.

And that's how you write a successful dissertation. :)

Why, you might ask, does it work? Pretty simple actually - the morons
on the committee will only look for their due credit and will look
through the bibliography and footnote annotation for references to
their work. They can't very well discredit their own achievement can
they? :)

And before you ask, no - I did not.


Hmmmm, my MSEE was muuuuch easier. 80


Want to know the complete and total truth?

Nobody on the my review committee had a clue about the subject matter
and took the recommendation of the Department Chair as to it's
validity - and she didn't have a clue and had to take the word of one
of the maybe 200 people in the world who actually did understand the
subject.

Absolutely true. :)

HK September 15th 08 12:49 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:24:14 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:14:43 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...

Just because you have a Phd does not mean you get lifetime employment.
Well except at a University.

Most PhD's that I know should have never left the University.

(whoops .... hope ShortWave isn't lurking)

Eisboch
Isn't PhD, Piled Higher and Deeper?
There is a little secret which I will share with you and only you.

It's called "quote early and quote often".

First, you look through the papers of the review committee's, and the
chairman's, papers, books, dissertations and monographs for anything
that even remotely touches on the subject matter for your thesis. And
by remotely, I mean even if you have to make it up remotely.

Then, in your introduction, you make sure you thank, with foot notes
to papers, books, dissertations and monographs (including the chairman
of your department if he isn't serving on the committee) for
clarifying, elucidating and in general assisting you in the
preparation of your thesis and dissertation.

In the body of the dissertation, footnote the hell out of it only make
sure you quote one of the review committee members - the rest must be
real books, papers, dissertations and monographs but if doesn't matter
as long as you use something from everybody on the committee. Make one
page entirely for footnotes for the preceding page and do that every
ten or so pages following the above procedure.

Use graphs, obscure types of data sets and lots and lots of color -
distracts from the fact that most of what you are writing is pure page
filler. If it's not a hard science paper, then use flow charts and
pictographs.

In concluding, make it really short and simple with plenty of praise
for the pioneering back ground work, blah, blah, blah.

And that's how you write a successful dissertation. :)

Why, you might ask, does it work? Pretty simple actually - the morons
on the committee will only look for their due credit and will look
through the bibliography and footnote annotation for references to
their work. They can't very well discredit their own achievement can
they? :)

And before you ask, no - I did not.

Hmmmm, my MSEE was muuuuch easier. 80


Want to know the complete and total truth?

Nobody on the my review committee had a clue about the subject matter
and took the recommendation of the Department Chair as to it's
validity - and she didn't have a clue and had to take the word of one
of the maybe 200 people in the world who actually did understand the
subject.

Absolutely true. :)



Too bad. A real committee might have made you work for it.

Calif Bill September 15th 08 01:17 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...

Just because you have a Phd does not mean you get lifetime employment.
Well except at a University.



Most PhD's that I know should have never left the University.

(whoops .... hope ShortWave isn't lurking)

Eisboch



Most of the ones I know are making positive changes in this grim world.


Most aren't. As the dean at Santa Clara University told me. Want to be an
engineer, get a masters, want to teach get a Phd. And a lot of the Phd.'s I
had for teachers sucked as teachers also.



Calif Bill September 15th 08 01:21 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:59:02 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:GICdnWCs37yx91DVnZ2dnUVZ_hidnZ2d@earthlink. com...


Just because you have a Phd does not mean you get lifetime employment.
Well except at a University.


Most PhD's that I know should have never left the University.

(whoops .... hope ShortWave isn't lurking)


HEY!!!!

Some of us overeducated morons live in the real world you know.


Like this one?
http://ourlighterside.com/stuff/engineer/



Calif Bill September 15th 08 01:22 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Sep 14, 2:47 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

...
On Sep 14, 9:23 am, "Eisboch" wrote:





"wf3h" wrote in message


he doesn't even know the RIGHT wing party line let alone the left wing
line....

TI layed off a bunch of people because the market for chips tanked.


so much for your assertion that, if you work hard, you'll get
rewarded. you can work your ass off and still get ****canned.

I was
layed off from TI, because there was no money in the disk drive supply
business. So Silicon Systems was written off. Am I bitter. Nope, was the
7th layoff I went through.


gee. and what does that routinely do when whole communities lose their
economic bases?

Most because I worked for a lot of startup
companies. And that is a crap shoot in the best of times. You get another
job. Just because you have a Phd does not mean you get lifetime
employment.


sure it does. you just have to be a rich GOP contributor. then the
govt will protect you. if you're middle class, you're screwed

How about rich DNC contributors?



D.Duck September 15th 08 01:25 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:24:14 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:14:43 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...


Just because you have a Phd does not mean you get lifetime
employment.
Well except at a University.


Most PhD's that I know should have never left the University.

(whoops .... hope ShortWave isn't lurking)

Eisboch

Isn't PhD, Piled Higher and Deeper?

There is a little secret which I will share with you and only you.

It's called "quote early and quote often".

First, you look through the papers of the review committee's, and the
chairman's, papers, books, dissertations and monographs for anything
that even remotely touches on the subject matter for your thesis. And
by remotely, I mean even if you have to make it up remotely.

Then, in your introduction, you make sure you thank, with foot notes
to papers, books, dissertations and monographs (including the chairman
of your department if he isn't serving on the committee) for
clarifying, elucidating and in general assisting you in the
preparation of your thesis and dissertation.

In the body of the dissertation, footnote the hell out of it only make
sure you quote one of the review committee members - the rest must be
real books, papers, dissertations and monographs but if doesn't matter
as long as you use something from everybody on the committee. Make one
page entirely for footnotes for the preceding page and do that every
ten or so pages following the above procedure.

Use graphs, obscure types of data sets and lots and lots of color -
distracts from the fact that most of what you are writing is pure page
filler. If it's not a hard science paper, then use flow charts and
pictographs.

In concluding, make it really short and simple with plenty of praise
for the pioneering back ground work, blah, blah, blah.

And that's how you write a successful dissertation. :)

Why, you might ask, does it work? Pretty simple actually - the morons
on the committee will only look for their due credit and will look
through the bibliography and footnote annotation for references to
their work. They can't very well discredit their own achievement can
they? :)

And before you ask, no - I did not.


Hmmmm, my MSEE was muuuuch easier. 80


Want to know the complete and total truth?

Nobody on the my review committee had a clue about the subject matter
and took the recommendation of the Department Chair as to it's
validity - and she didn't have a clue and had to take the word of one
of the maybe 200 people in the world who actually did understand the
subject.

Absolutely true. :)


Anything to do with Klingons? 8)



HK September 15th 08 01:38 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 
Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...
Just because you have a Phd does not mean you get lifetime employment.
Well except at a University.

Most PhD's that I know should have never left the University.

(whoops .... hope ShortWave isn't lurking)

Eisboch


Most of the ones I know are making positive changes in this grim world.


Most aren't. As the dean at Santa Clara University told me. Want to be an
engineer, get a masters, want to teach get a Phd. And a lot of the Phd.'s I
had for teachers sucked as teachers also.



That was a perfect example of why you cannot be taken seriously in a
serious discussion, and for several reasons.

Note that I stated "most of the Ph.D's I know." I did not say "most
Ph.D's." You have no way to refute my statement.

Your second posit, regarding a master's, a doctorate and teaching, is
just more of your simple-minded, anti-intellectual horsesnot.

You ought to read this:

http://tinyurl.com/63qq8s

Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] September 15th 08 01:54 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:25:59 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:24:14 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:14:43 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...


Just because you have a Phd does not mean you get lifetime
employment.
Well except at a University.


Most PhD's that I know should have never left the University.

(whoops .... hope ShortWave isn't lurking)

Eisboch

Isn't PhD, Piled Higher and Deeper?

There is a little secret which I will share with you and only you.

It's called "quote early and quote often".

First, you look through the papers of the review committee's, and the
chairman's, papers, books, dissertations and monographs for anything
that even remotely touches on the subject matter for your thesis. And
by remotely, I mean even if you have to make it up remotely.

Then, in your introduction, you make sure you thank, with foot notes
to papers, books, dissertations and monographs (including the chairman
of your department if he isn't serving on the committee) for
clarifying, elucidating and in general assisting you in the
preparation of your thesis and dissertation.

In the body of the dissertation, footnote the hell out of it only make
sure you quote one of the review committee members - the rest must be
real books, papers, dissertations and monographs but if doesn't matter
as long as you use something from everybody on the committee. Make one
page entirely for footnotes for the preceding page and do that every
ten or so pages following the above procedure.

Use graphs, obscure types of data sets and lots and lots of color -
distracts from the fact that most of what you are writing is pure page
filler. If it's not a hard science paper, then use flow charts and
pictographs.

In concluding, make it really short and simple with plenty of praise
for the pioneering back ground work, blah, blah, blah.

And that's how you write a successful dissertation. :)

Why, you might ask, does it work? Pretty simple actually - the morons
on the committee will only look for their due credit and will look
through the bibliography and footnote annotation for references to
their work. They can't very well discredit their own achievement can
they? :)

And before you ask, no - I did not.

Hmmmm, my MSEE was muuuuch easier. 80


Want to know the complete and total truth?

Nobody on the my review committee had a clue about the subject matter
and took the recommendation of the Department Chair as to it's
validity - and she didn't have a clue and had to take the word of one
of the maybe 200 people in the world who actually did understand the
subject.

Absolutely true. :)


Anything to do with Klingons? 8)


Nope - although it might as well have been.

Hyperbolic Riemann Surfaces which are not parabolic and their use as
evaluative data sets in high energy particle analysis.

Aren't you glad you asked? :)


Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] September 15th 08 01:57 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:21:28 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:59:02 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:GICdnWCs37yx91DVnZ2dnUVZ_hidnZ2d@earthlink .com...


Just because you have a Phd does not mean you get lifetime employment.
Well except at a University.

Most PhD's that I know should have never left the University.

(whoops .... hope ShortWave isn't lurking)


HEY!!!!

Some of us overeducated morons live in the real world you know.


Like this one?
http://ourlighterside.com/stuff/engineer/


Anybody who drives a car with the jet turbine intake sitting less than
a foot from his elbow can not possibly qualify as living in the real
world no how you try to define it. :)

wf3h September 15th 08 02:27 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Sep 14, 7:22*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:


companies. And that is a crap shoot in the best of times. You get another
job. Just because you have a Phd does not mean you get lifetime
employment.


sure it does. you just have to be a rich GOP contributor. then the
govt will protect you. if you're middle class, you're screwed

How about rich DNC contributors?


you mean both of them?

Calif Bill September 15th 08 03:56 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:21:28 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:59:02 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:GICdnWCs37yx91DVnZ2dnUVZ_hidnZ2d@earthlin k.com...


Just because you have a Phd does not mean you get lifetime employment.
Well except at a University.

Most PhD's that I know should have never left the University.

(whoops .... hope ShortWave isn't lurking)

HEY!!!!

Some of us overeducated morons live in the real world you know.


Like this one?
http://ourlighterside.com/stuff/engineer/


Anybody who drives a car with the jet turbine intake sitting less than
a foot from his elbow can not possibly qualify as living in the real
world no how you try to define it. :)


Got a screen over the intake. Might be different if he tried to run it at
110% power.



Calif Bill September 15th 08 03:57 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Sep 14, 7:22 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:


companies. And that is a crap shoot in the best of times. You get
another
job. Just because you have a Phd does not mean you get lifetime
employment.


sure it does. you just have to be a rich GOP contributor. then the
govt will protect you. if you're middle class, you're screwed

How about rich DNC contributors?


you mean both of them?

More millionaire Dems in Congress than Repubs. Soros, a plague on the
people of the earth, is rich Dem supporter.



Calif Bill September 15th 08 03:59 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...
Just because you have a Phd does not mean you get lifetime employment.
Well except at a University.

Most PhD's that I know should have never left the University.

(whoops .... hope ShortWave isn't lurking)

Eisboch

Most of the ones I know are making positive changes in this grim world.


Most aren't. As the dean at Santa Clara University told me. Want to be
an engineer, get a masters, want to teach get a Phd. And a lot of the
Phd.'s I had for teachers sucked as teachers also.


That was a perfect example of why you cannot be taken seriously in a
serious discussion, and for several reasons.

Note that I stated "most of the Ph.D's I know." I did not say "most
Ph.D's." You have no way to refute my statement.

Your second posit, regarding a master's, a doctorate and teaching, is just
more of your simple-minded, anti-intellectual horsesnot.

You ought to read this:

http://tinyurl.com/63qq8s


You have not got either the brain power or the sense to be in even an non
serious discussion.



wf3h September 15th 08 05:35 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Sep 14, 9:57*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

...
On Sep 14, 7:22 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:



companies. And that is a crap shoot in the best of times. You get
another
job. Just because you have a Phd does not mean you get lifetime
employment.


sure it does. you just have to be a rich GOP contributor. then the
govt will protect you. if you're middle class, you're screwed


How about rich DNC contributors?


you mean both of them?

More millionaire Dems in Congress than Repubs. *Soros, a plague on the
people of the earth, is rich Dem supporter.


DUH!! there are more dems in congress than there are repubs. kind of
like 'who's buried in grant's tomb'....

Calif Bill September 15th 08 05:43 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Sep 14, 9:57 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

...
On Sep 14, 7:22 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:



companies. And that is a crap shoot in the best of times. You get
another
job. Just because you have a Phd does not mean you get lifetime
employment.


sure it does. you just have to be a rich GOP contributor. then the
govt will protect you. if you're middle class, you're screwed


How about rich DNC contributors?


you mean both of them?

More millionaire Dems in Congress than Repubs. Soros, a plague on the
people of the earth, is rich Dem supporter.


DUH!! there are more dems in congress than there are repubs. kind of
like 'who's buried in grant's tomb'....

Even when there were less Dems, more dem rich.




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