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On Sep 9, 7:11*pm, John H wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m Check out this... http://www.investors.com/editorial/e...02137342405551 Economic Justice = Wealth distribution along racial lines. It could be a disaster... |
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On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:30:30 -0700 (PDT),
wrote: On Sep 9, 7:11*pm, John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m Check out this... http://www.investors.com/editorial/e...02137342405551 Economic Justice = Wealth distribution along racial lines. It could be a disaster... If you watched O'Reilly's interview of Obama last night, you know exactly what 'economic justice' means. Tonight O'Reilly gets into some of Obama's 'friends' and 'pastors'. O'Reilly is being too nice to the guy, who can answer only with a laugh. |
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On Sep 9, 7:55*pm, John H wrote:
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:30:30 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 9, 7:11*pm, John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m Check out this... http://www.investors.com/editorial/e...?secid=1501&st.... Economic Justice = Wealth distribution along racial lines. It could be a disaster... If you watched O'Reilly's interview of Obama last night, you know exactly what 'economic justice' means. Tonight O'Reilly gets into some of Obama's 'friends' and 'pastors'. O'Reilly is being too nice to the guy, who can answer only with a laugh. Oh, he can answer OK.. but it's all bull****. He has been a militant racist for 20 frekin' years, right up until he beat out Billary. Now he is talking like a centrist of sorts, but anyone who believes he won't go right back to his roots if elected is in denial. |
OT- Great article!
John H wrote:
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:30:30 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 9, 7:11 pm, John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m Check out this... http://www.investors.com/editorial/e...02137342405551 Economic Justice = Wealth distribution along racial lines. It could be a disaster... If you watched O'Reilly's interview of Obama last night, you know exactly what 'economic justice' means. Tonight O'Reilly gets into some of Obama's 'friends' and 'pastors'. O'Reilly is being too nice to the guy, who can answer only with a laugh. OT Nonsensical right-wing bull****. |
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On Sep 9, 7:55 pm, John H wrote: On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:30:30 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 9, 7:11 pm, John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m Check out this... http://www.investors.com/editorial/e...?secid=1501&st... Economic Justice = Wealth distribution along racial lines. It could be a disaster... If you watched O'Reilly's interview of Obama last night, you know exactly what 'economic justice' means. Tonight O'Reilly gets into some of Obama's 'friends' and 'pastors'. O'Reilly is being too nice to the guy, who can answer only with a laugh. Oh, he can answer OK.. but it's all bull****. He has been a militant racist for 20 frekin' years, right up until he beat out Billary. Now he is talking like a centrist of sorts, but anyone who believes he won't go right back to his roots if elected is in denial. |
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On Sep 9, 6:11*pm, John H wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m Q: How many community organizers does it take to screw in a light bulb? - A: Nine. One to screw in the light bulb and eight to organize the busloads of protestors to the nuclear plant that powers it. lol! LOL! I thought that was kind of cute. BTW, But buddy just bought a 26 foot Harris at a bank repo. Man did he get a good deal, too bad the 70 horse Johnson is ruined because somebody ran some E-85 in it, but we're thinking of mounting that 115 hp Evinrude on it. The one with the barely used power head that I got last year for a hundred bucks. Schweeeeet! |
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On Sep 9, 6:30*pm, wrote:
On Sep 9, 7:11*pm, John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m Check out this... http://www.investors.com/editorial/e...?secid=1501&st.... Economic Justice = Wealth distribution along racial lines. It could be a disaster... no, it means restoring economic fairness to an american middle class that's been raped like a 4 year old boy at a catholic seminary by the upper classes. |
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On Sep 9, 6:55*pm, John H wrote:
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:30:30 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 9, 7:11*pm, John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m Check out this... http://www.investors.com/editorial/e...?secid=1501&st.... Economic Justice = Wealth distribution along racial lines. It could be a disaster... If you watched O'Reilly's interview of Obama last night, you know exactly what 'economic justice' means. Tonight O'Reilly gets into some of Obama's 'friends' and 'pastors'. O'Reilly is being too nice to the guy, who can answer only with a laugh. i love it when o'reilly called a middle class tax cut 'redistributionist'. apparently it's socialism to cut taxes for the middle class, but a fine example of meritocratic capitalism when you do the same for the rich. no wonder this country's screwed up |
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On Sep 9, 6:59*pm, wrote:
On Sep 9, 7:55*pm, John H wrote: On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:30:30 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 9, 7:11*pm, John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m Check out this... http://www.investors.com/editorial/e...?secid=1501&st... Economic Justice = Wealth distribution along racial lines. It could be a disaster... If you watched O'Reilly's interview of Obama last night, you know exactly what 'economic justice' means. Tonight O'Reilly gets into some of Obama's 'friends' and 'pastors'. O'Reilly is being too nice to the guy, who can answer only with a laugh.. Oh, he can answer OK.. but it's all bull****. He has been a militant racist for 20 frekin' years, right up until he beat out Billary. Now he is talking like a centrist of sorts, but anyone who believes he won't go right back to his roots if elected is in denial.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - mccain's so far to the right, as is the US, that a moderate democrat is labeled a leftist. this country's in serious trouble. and the fairy tale right wing is the biggest source of its problems. |
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"wf3h" wrote in message ... On Sep 9, 6:59 pm, wrote: On Sep 9, 7:55 pm, John H wrote: On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:30:30 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 9, 7:11 pm, John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m Check out this... http://www.investors.com/editorial/e...?secid=1501&st... Economic Justice = Wealth distribution along racial lines. It could be a disaster... If you watched O'Reilly's interview of Obama last night, you know exactly what 'economic justice' means. Tonight O'Reilly gets into some of Obama's 'friends' and 'pastors'. O'Reilly is being too nice to the guy, who can answer only with a laugh. Oh, he can answer OK.. but it's all bull****. He has been a militant racist for 20 frekin' years, right up until he beat out Billary. Now he is talking like a centrist of sorts, but anyone who believes he won't go right back to his roots if elected is in denial.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - mccain's so far to the right, as is the US, that a moderate democrat is labeled a leftist. this country's in serious trouble. and the fairy tale right wing is the biggest source of its problems. Very few moderate Democrats. Kennedy would be considered a Republican these days. |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message m... "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Sep 9, 6:59 pm, wrote: On Sep 9, 7:55 pm, John H wrote: On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:30:30 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 9, 7:11 pm, John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m Check out this... http://www.investors.com/editorial/e...?secid=1501&st... Economic Justice = Wealth distribution along racial lines. It could be a disaster... If you watched O'Reilly's interview of Obama last night, you know exactly what 'economic justice' means. Tonight O'Reilly gets into some of Obama's 'friends' and 'pastors'. O'Reilly is being too nice to the guy, who can answer only with a laugh. Oh, he can answer OK.. but it's all bull****. He has been a militant racist for 20 frekin' years, right up until he beat out Billary. Now he is talking like a centrist of sorts, but anyone who believes he won't go right back to his roots if elected is in denial.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - mccain's so far to the right, as is the US, that a moderate democrat is labeled a leftist. this country's in serious trouble. and the fairy tale right wing is the biggest source of its problems. Very few moderate Democrats. Kennedy would be considered a Republican these days. I've spent some time really studying Obama's positions and ideas. He's not a moderate Democrat. He's a stepping stone to socialism and is on record of supporting and endorsing people like self-described socialist Bernie Sanders of Vermont. No thanks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIlIpOkRh2A It's ironic that his campaign staff is now trying to make an issue of Palin's former association with the Pentecostal church. Obama is the one that speaks in tongues. "Change" = Socialism Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message m... "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Sep 9, 6:59 pm, wrote: On Sep 9, 7:55 pm, John H wrote: On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:30:30 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 9, 7:11 pm, John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m Check out this... http://www.investors.com/editorial/e...?secid=1501&st... Economic Justice = Wealth distribution along racial lines. It could be a disaster... If you watched O'Reilly's interview of Obama last night, you know exactly what 'economic justice' means. Tonight O'Reilly gets into some of Obama's 'friends' and 'pastors'. O'Reilly is being too nice to the guy, who can answer only with a laugh. Oh, he can answer OK.. but it's all bull****. He has been a militant racist for 20 frekin' years, right up until he beat out Billary. Now he is talking like a centrist of sorts, but anyone who believes he won't go right back to his roots if elected is in denial.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - mccain's so far to the right, as is the US, that a moderate democrat is labeled a leftist. this country's in serious trouble. and the fairy tale right wing is the biggest source of its problems. Very few moderate Democrats. Kennedy would be considered a Republican these days. I've spent some time really studying Obama's positions and ideas. He's not a moderate Democrat. He's a stepping stone to socialism and is on record of supporting and endorsing people like self-described socialist Bernie Sanders of Vermont. No thanks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIlIpOkRh2A It's ironic that his campaign staff is now trying to make an issue of Palin's former association with the Pentecostal church. Obama is the one that speaks in tongues. "Change" = Socialism Eisboch Now you're cookin. |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message m... "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Sep 9, 6:59 pm, wrote: On Sep 9, 7:55 pm, John H wrote: On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:30:30 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 9, 7:11 pm, John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m Check out this... http://www.investors.com/editorial/e...?secid=1501&st... Economic Justice = Wealth distribution along racial lines. It could be a disaster... If you watched O'Reilly's interview of Obama last night, you know exactly what 'economic justice' means. Tonight O'Reilly gets into some of Obama's 'friends' and 'pastors'. O'Reilly is being too nice to the guy, who can answer only with a laugh. Oh, he can answer OK.. but it's all bull****. He has been a militant racist for 20 frekin' years, right up until he beat out Billary. Now he is talking like a centrist of sorts, but anyone who believes he won't go right back to his roots if elected is in denial.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - mccain's so far to the right, as is the US, that a moderate democrat is labeled a leftist. this country's in serious trouble. and the fairy tale right wing is the biggest source of its problems. Very few moderate Democrats. Kennedy would be considered a Republican these days. I've spent some time really studying Obama's positions and ideas. He's not a moderate Democrat. He's a stepping stone to socialism and is on record of supporting and endorsing people like self-described socialist Bernie Sanders of Vermont. No thanks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIlIpOkRh2A It's ironic that his campaign staff is now trying to make an issue of Palin's former association with the Pentecostal church. Obama is the one that speaks in tongues. "Change" = Socialism Eisboch Wow...my first laugh of the day, and I just got up! Thanks. |
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On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:38:52 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Sep 9, 6:11*pm, John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m Q: How many community organizers does it take to screw in a light bulb? - A: Nine. One to screw in the light bulb and eight to organize the busloads of protestors to the nuclear plant that powers it. lol! LOL! I thought that was kind of cute. BTW, But buddy just bought a 26 foot Harris at a bank repo. Man did he get a good deal, too bad the 70 horse Johnson is ruined because somebody ran some E-85 in it, but we're thinking of mounting that 115 hp Evinrude on it. The one with the barely used power head that I got last year for a hundred bucks. Schweeeeet! Go for it. Sounds like a good deal. A 115 on a 26 footer doesn't seem like overkill to me! Is this a pontoon boat or a real boat? |
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On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:55:10 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote:
On Sep 9, 6:55*pm, John H wrote: On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:30:30 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 9, 7:11*pm, John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m Check out this... http://www.investors.com/editorial/e...?secid=1501&st... Economic Justice = Wealth distribution along racial lines. It could be a disaster... If you watched O'Reilly's interview of Obama last night, you know exactly what 'economic justice' means. Tonight O'Reilly gets into some of Obama's 'friends' and 'pastors'. O'Reilly is being too nice to the guy, who can answer only with a laugh. i love it when o'reilly called a middle class tax cut 'redistributionist'. apparently it's socialism to cut taxes for the middle class, but a fine example of meritocratic capitalism when you do the same for the rich. no wonder this country's screwed up You need to change your hearing aid batteries. The redistribution O'Reilly talked about is the redistribution Obama talks about continuously. The middle class tax cut (which we know is bull****) would be financed by an upper income tax increase. If that's not redistribution, what is. Obama's answer to O'Reilly's question was, "We can afford it." Why should those who have earned their money give it away? |
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On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:53:48 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote:
On Sep 9, 6:30*pm, wrote: On Sep 9, 7:11*pm, John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m Check out this... http://www.investors.com/editorial/e...?secid=1501&st... Economic Justice = Wealth distribution along racial lines. It could be a disaster... no, it means restoring economic fairness to an american middle class that's been raped like a 4 year old boy at a catholic seminary by the upper classes. Horse manure. There is nothing unfair about an individual, like O'Reilly, keeping the money he's earned. |
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"John H." wrote in message ... You need to change your hearing aid batteries. The redistribution O'Reilly talked about is the redistribution Obama talks about continuously. The middle class tax cut (which we know is bull****) would be financed by an upper income tax increase. If that's not redistribution, what is. Obama's answer to O'Reilly's question was, "We can afford it." Why should those who have earned their money give it away? This is one of the most important faults of the left wing, semi-socialist Obama economic theory. A person (or persons) who go out and create something of value don't do so at the expense of those that don't or can't. There is no finite amount of value or wealth to be "grabbed". It is created. Fair taxes on that earned or created wealth is fine. But a redistribution of wealth by government edict is not. To do so is socialism or communism, plain and simple. Eisboch |
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On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:16:46 -0400, Eisboch wrote:
Fair taxes on that earned or created wealth is fine. But a redistribution of wealth by government edict is not. To do so is socialism or communism, plain and simple. Eisboch LOL, that would depend on which way the wealth is being redistributed, wouldn't it? http://www.sustainablemiddleclass.co...efficient.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gini_coefficient |
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wrote in message t... On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:16:46 -0400, Eisboch wrote: Fair taxes on that earned or created wealth is fine. But a redistribution of wealth by government edict is not. To do so is socialism or communism, plain and simple. Eisboch LOL, that would depend on which way the wealth is being redistributed, wouldn't it? http://www.sustainablemiddleclass.co...efficient.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gini_coefficient That's bogus. For one thing, a "perfect score" of 1 means that a single person ..... actually a group ..... has all the wealth, stated in terms of income. A score of 0 means everybody is equally wealthy .... income wise. Yet, as the score goes up over the years, the "middle class" is disappearing. Where did they go? Well, some slipped into poverty obviously and those need to be helped. But the others didn't drop off the planet. They moved upward. Eisboch |
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wrote in message t... On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:16:46 -0400, Eisboch wrote: Fair taxes on that earned or created wealth is fine. But a redistribution of wealth by government edict is not. To do so is socialism or communism, plain and simple. Eisboch LOL, that would depend on which way the wealth is being redistributed, wouldn't it? http://www.sustainablemiddleclass.co...efficient.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gini_coefficient Oh .... BTW, this theory also, by default, assumes a finite amount of income or wealth to be distributed. That simply is not the case. Eisboch |
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On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:36:42 -0400, Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message t... On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:16:46 -0400, Eisboch wrote: Fair taxes on that earned or created wealth is fine. But a redistribution of wealth by government edict is not. To do so is socialism or communism, plain and simple. Eisboch LOL, that would depend on which way the wealth is being redistributed, wouldn't it? http://www.sustainablemiddleclass.co...efficient.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gini_coefficient That's bogus. For one thing, a "perfect score" of 1 means that a single person ..... actually a group ..... has all the wealth, stated in terms of income. A score of 0 means everybody is equally wealthy .... income wise. Yet, as the score goes up over the years, the "middle class" is disappearing. Where did they go? Well, some slipped into poverty obviously and those need to be helped. But the others didn't drop off the planet. They moved upward. Eisboch I think you are misunderstanding the coefficient. The Gini index isn't perfect, but it does make clear, that the redistribution of wealth is towards the rich. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:E...oefficient.svg |
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wrote in message t... On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:36:42 -0400, Eisboch wrote: wrote in message t... On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:16:46 -0400, Eisboch wrote: Fair taxes on that earned or created wealth is fine. But a redistribution of wealth by government edict is not. To do so is socialism or communism, plain and simple. Eisboch LOL, that would depend on which way the wealth is being redistributed, wouldn't it? http://www.sustainablemiddleclass.co...efficient.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gini_coefficient That's bogus. For one thing, a "perfect score" of 1 means that a single person ..... actually a group ..... has all the wealth, stated in terms of income. A score of 0 means everybody is equally wealthy .... income wise. Yet, as the score goes up over the years, the "middle class" is disappearing. Where did they go? Well, some slipped into poverty obviously and those need to be helped. But the others didn't drop off the planet. They moved upward. Eisboch I think you are misunderstanding the coefficient. The Gini index isn't perfect, but it does make clear, that the redistribution of wealth is towards the rich. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:E...oefficient.svg Maybe I am. But, doesn't it also indicate that the bulk of the middle class are also becoming "richer"? Not all. But the bulk. Otherwise, if the middle class disappears, did they *all* fall into poverty or did they simply die off? Nope. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"John H." wrote in message ... You need to change your hearing aid batteries. The redistribution O'Reilly talked about is the redistribution Obama talks about continuously. The middle class tax cut (which we know is bull****) would be financed by an upper income tax increase. If that's not redistribution, what is. Obama's answer to O'Reilly's question was, "We can afford it." Why should those who have earned their money give it away? This is one of the most important faults of the left wing, semi-socialist Obama economic theory. A person (or persons) who go out and create something of value don't do so at the expense of those that don't or can't. There is no finite amount of value or wealth to be "grabbed". It is created. Fair taxes on that earned or created wealth is fine. But a redistribution of wealth by government edict is not. To do so is socialism or communism, plain and simple. Eisboch I see no reason to not raise taxes substantially on the wealthiest Americans. Thanks to deregulation, a lack of enforcement, greed, destruction of the social contract (the one that says what we do in our society is supposed to benefit all), golden parachutes, bail-outs of shareholders, destruction of jobs to benefit the rich, et cetera, only the richest are prospering in this country. Obama has proposed progressive tax cuts for those making up to $250,000 a year, and some tax increases for those earning more. I don't believe the tax increases go nearly far enough. In the good old days, most of those who got rich did so by working hard. This days, most of the rich get richer by gaming the system. |
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On Sep 10, 5:52*am, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:38:52 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Sep 9, 6:11*pm, John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m Q: How many community organizers does it take to screw in a light bulb? - A: Nine. One to screw in the light bulb and eight to organize the busloads of protestors to the nuclear plant that powers it. lol! LOL! I thought that was kind of cute. BTW, But buddy just bought a 26 foot Harris at a bank repo. Man did he get a good deal, too bad the 70 horse Johnson is ruined because somebody ran some E-85 in it, but we're thinking of mounting that 115 hp Evinrude on it. The one with the barely used power head that I got last year for a hundred bucks. Schweeeeet! Go for it. Sounds like a good deal. A 115 on a 26 footer doesn't seem like overkill to me! Is this a pontoon boat or a real boat? It's a pretty nice pontooon John that needs a bit of cleaning and some general work work.. some people got it, abused it, blew it up then let the bank have it back. |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... wrote in message t... On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:16:46 -0400, Eisboch wrote: Fair taxes on that earned or created wealth is fine. But a redistribution of wealth by government edict is not. To do so is socialism or communism, plain and simple. Eisboch LOL, that would depend on which way the wealth is being redistributed, wouldn't it? http://www.sustainablemiddleclass.co...efficient.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gini_coefficient That's bogus. For one thing, a "perfect score" of 1 means that a single person ..... actually a group ..... has all the wealth, stated in terms of income. A score of 0 means everybody is equally wealthy .... income wise. Yet, as the score goes up over the years, the "middle class" is disappearing. Where did they go? Well, some slipped into poverty obviously and those need to be helped. But the others didn't drop off the planet. They moved upward. Eisboch You know, games can be played with numbers, making them add up to support whatever POV or agenda one is promoting. Taking a step backwards, though, as we sit here 8 weeks from the election, my thinking is beginning to solidify. As stated before, I am not a registered anything. I try, as best as I can, to keep an open mind, evaluating candidates in terms of who would be best as POTUS for the current set of conditions. To this end, I had an initial level of interest in Obama, simply because I thought that at this period of history and world events, he would likely be best to repair the damage done to this country's reputation in the global scene. I still think that is true. However, this attribute is more than offset by another factor, being his extreme left wing philosophies and demonstrated support for socialistic programs .... even socialists politicians. This election is historic in many ways. First African-American president ...... or first female Vice President. Neither of those factors mean anything to me however. What is far more historic and pivotal, IMO, is the critical choice of marching towards socialism with vigor, or swallowing the lumps and keeping our traditional form of a unique government with an attempt to improve it even more. To that, I have no doubt in which way to cast my vote. I'd like my children and grandchildren to continue to have some level of personal freedom and opportunity. We don't need to become a European styled Socialist Democracy. Eisboch |
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On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 06:26:20 -0500, wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:16:46 -0400, Eisboch wrote: Fair taxes on that earned or created wealth is fine. But a redistribution of wealth by government edict is not. To do so is socialism or communism, plain and simple. Eisboch LOL, that would depend on which way the wealth is being redistributed, wouldn't it? http://www.sustainablemiddleclass.co...efficient.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gini_coefficient That "redistribution" BS should be turned upside down by the Dems, given what I always hear about the "middle class" not even keeping up with inflation while "the rich get richer." But they have turned into a "wealthy" Yuppie party, and have no balls. Their base won't get fired up or expanded as long as they have cable TV and food on the table. All this "redistribution of wealth" talk is pure political bull**** anyway. Bottom line is everybody fights for economic spoils. Who wins the fight is determined by their fighting heart, ambition, love of money, or survival. Used to be workers wanted better work conditions and more money for food on the table, so they organized and raised hell. Now they watch cable TV if they get frustrated. But if they get hungry and can't afford cable TV, watch out. In the end all the "redistribution" talk is pure bull****, whether from Eisboch or Harry. Most people get exactly what they deserve. But remember - that's just my current opinion. I am flexible, and perfectly willing to flip-flop. --Vic |
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 06:26:20 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:16:46 -0400, Eisboch wrote: Fair taxes on that earned or created wealth is fine. But a redistribution of wealth by government edict is not. To do so is socialism or communism, plain and simple. Eisboch LOL, that would depend on which way the wealth is being redistributed, wouldn't it? http://www.sustainablemiddleclass.co...efficient.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gini_coefficient That "redistribution" BS should be turned upside down by the Dems, given what I always hear about the "middle class" not even keeping up with inflation while "the rich get richer." But they have turned into a "wealthy" Yuppie party, and have no balls. Their base won't get fired up or expanded as long as they have cable TV and food on the table. All this "redistribution of wealth" talk is pure political bull**** anyway. Bottom line is everybody fights for economic spoils. Who wins the fight is determined by their fighting heart, ambition, love of money, or survival. Used to be workers wanted better work conditions and more money for food on the table, so they organized and raised hell. Now they watch cable TV if they get frustrated. But if they get hungry and can't afford cable TV, watch out. In the end all the "redistribution" talk is pure bull****, whether from Eisboch or Harry. Most people get exactly what they deserve. But remember - that's just my current opinion. I am flexible, and perfectly willing to flip-flop. --Vic Well, I sincerely hope you flip rather than flop. Eisboch |
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On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 08:20:13 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
Well, I sincerely hope you flip rather than flop. All depends on how hungry I am. --Vic |
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"John H." wrote in message ... On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:55:10 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Sep 9, 6:55 pm, John H wrote: On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:30:30 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 9, 7:11 pm, John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m Check out this... http://www.investors.com/editorial/e...?secid=1501&st... Economic Justice = Wealth distribution along racial lines. It could be a disaster... If you watched O'Reilly's interview of Obama last night, you know exactly what 'economic justice' means. Tonight O'Reilly gets into some of Obama's 'friends' and 'pastors'. O'Reilly is being too nice to the guy, who can answer only with a laugh. i love it when o'reilly called a middle class tax cut 'redistributionist'. apparently it's socialism to cut taxes for the middle class, but a fine example of meritocratic capitalism when you do the same for the rich. no wonder this country's screwed up You need to change your hearing aid batteries. The redistribution O'Reilly talked about is the redistribution Obama talks about continuously. The middle class tax cut (which we know is bull****) would be financed by an upper income tax increase. If that's not redistribution, what is. Obama's answer to O'Reilly's question was, "We can afford it." Why should those who have earned their money give it away? Didn't Bush give a tax cut to the 'rich' last time? It's the working mans turn now. |
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Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message ... On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:55:10 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Sep 9, 6:55 pm, John H wrote: On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:30:30 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 9, 7:11 pm, John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m Check out this... http://www.investors.com/editorial/e...?secid=1501&st... Economic Justice = Wealth distribution along racial lines. It could be a disaster... If you watched O'Reilly's interview of Obama last night, you know exactly what 'economic justice' means. Tonight O'Reilly gets into some of Obama's 'friends' and 'pastors'. O'Reilly is being too nice to the guy, who can answer only with a laugh. i love it when o'reilly called a middle class tax cut 'redistributionist'. apparently it's socialism to cut taxes for the middle class, but a fine example of meritocratic capitalism when you do the same for the rich. no wonder this country's screwed up You need to change your hearing aid batteries. The redistribution O'Reilly talked about is the redistribution Obama talks about continuously. The middle class tax cut (which we know is bull****) would be financed by an upper income tax increase. If that's not redistribution, what is. Obama's answer to O'Reilly's question was, "We can afford it." Why should those who have earned their money give it away? Didn't Bush give a tax cut to the 'rich' last time? It's the working mans turn now. Watch it, fella. IF you don't agree with the right-wing political philosophy of rec.boats, the BORG will pretend to ignore you, eh? |
Great article!
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:16:46 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"John H." wrote in message .. . You need to change your hearing aid batteries. The redistribution O'Reilly talked about is the redistribution Obama talks about continuously. The middle class tax cut (which we know is bull****) would be financed by an upper income tax increase. If that's not redistribution, what is. Obama's answer to O'Reilly's question was, "We can afford it." Why should those who have earned their money give it away? This is one of the most important faults of the left wing, semi-socialist Obama economic theory. A person (or persons) who go out and create something of value don't do so at the expense of those that don't or can't. There is no finite amount of value or wealth to be "grabbed". It is created. Fair taxes on that earned or created wealth is fine. But a redistribution of wealth by government edict is not. To do so is socialism or communism, plain and simple. Eisboch Just call me 'the choir', 'cause I'm a firm believer that communism, socialism, and liberalism are getting very close to the same damn thing. The name of the game is to keep the downtrodden dependant on handouts while the few at the top keep the power. A great example of this is the Netherlands. So much is now handed out that the middle class is taxed to death. |
Great article!
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 04:54:56 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Sep 10, 5:52*am, John H. wrote: On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:38:52 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Sep 9, 6:11*pm, John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m Q: How many community organizers does it take to screw in a light bulb? - A: Nine. One to screw in the light bulb and eight to organize the busloads of protestors to the nuclear plant that powers it. lol! LOL! I thought that was kind of cute. BTW, But buddy just bought a 26 foot Harris at a bank repo. Man did he get a good deal, too bad the 70 horse Johnson is ruined because somebody ran some E-85 in it, but we're thinking of mounting that 115 hp Evinrude on it. The one with the barely used power head that I got last year for a hundred bucks. Schweeeeet! Go for it. Sounds like a good deal. A 115 on a 26 footer doesn't seem like overkill to me! Is this a pontoon boat or a real boat? It's a pretty nice pontooon John that needs a bit of cleaning and some general work work.. some people got it, abused it, blew it up then let the bank have it back. I'll tell you what, if I lived on a nice, quiet lake somewhere, I think I could get used to a pontoon boat right quick. I'd have to keep the Key West in reserve, but the idea of barbecuing my fish just minutes after it's caught is very appealing. Of course I'd have a BBQ on the boat! |
Great article!
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:16:46 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... You need to change your hearing aid batteries. The redistribution O'Reilly talked about is the redistribution Obama talks about continuously. The middle class tax cut (which we know is bull****) would be financed by an upper income tax increase. If that's not redistribution, what is. Obama's answer to O'Reilly's question was, "We can afford it." Why should those who have earned their money give it away? This is one of the most important faults of the left wing, semi-socialist Obama economic theory. A person (or persons) who go out and create something of value don't do so at the expense of those that don't or can't. There is no finite amount of value or wealth to be "grabbed". It is created. Fair taxes on that earned or created wealth is fine. But a redistribution of wealth by government edict is not. To do so is socialism or communism, plain and simple. Eisboch Just call me 'the choir', 'cause I'm a firm believer that communism, socialism, and liberalism are getting very close to the same damn thing. If that is what you believe, then it would be more appropriate to call you "the idiot." |
Great article!
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:25:23 -0300, "Don White"
wrote: Didn't Bush give a tax cut to the 'rich' last time? It's the working mans turn now. Is there a Canadian group we could go to to discuss *your* politics? |
Great article!
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:25:23 -0300, "Don White" wrote: Didn't Bush give a tax cut to the 'rich' last time? It's the working mans turn now. Is there a Canadian group we could go to to discuss *your* politics? Stop Wayne-ing, W'hine. |
Great article!
On Sep 10, 10:27*am, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 04:54:56 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Sep 10, 5:52*am, John H. wrote: On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:38:52 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Sep 9, 6:11*pm, John H wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m Q: How many community organizers does it take to screw in a light bulb? - A: Nine. One to screw in the light bulb and eight to organize the busloads of protestors to the nuclear plant that powers it. lol! LOL! I thought that was kind of cute. BTW, But buddy just bought a 26 foot Harris at a bank repo. Man did he get a good deal, too bad the 70 horse Johnson is ruined because somebody ran some E-85 in it, but we're thinking of mounting that 115 hp Evinrude on it. The one with the barely used power head that I got last year for a hundred bucks. Schweeeeet! Go for it. Sounds like a good deal. A 115 on a 26 footer doesn't seem like overkill to me! Is this a pontoon boat or a real boat? It's a pretty nice pontooon John that needs a bit of cleaning and some general work work.. some people got it, abused it, blew it up then let the bank have it back. I'll tell you what, if I lived on a nice, quiet lake somewhere, I think I could get used to a pontoon boat right quick. I'd have to keep the Key West in reserve, but the idea of barbecuing my fish just minutes after it's caught is very appealing. Of course I'd have a BBQ on the boat!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The Brockway is the best of both worlds.. It is big enough to comfortably BBQ, a couple of lawn chairs, and can go out in a little rougher conditions than the pontoon in some cases.. I knew a chick that had a nice pontoon boat down in Essex, and used to come up river a lot, but any sign of weather sent her scurrying off home.. and she was as much of a lifelong boater as any.. She said the pontoon was not good in any waves.. Here it is... http://yaimkool.com/ Take out the center thwart, add some floatation and side seating, and off you go.. |
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