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[email protected] September 10th 08 04:19 PM

Great article!
 
On Sep 10, 10:27*am, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 04:54:56 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Sep 10, 5:52*am, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:38:52 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Sep 9, 6:11*pm, John H wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m


Q: How many community organizers does it take to screw in a light
bulb? -


A: Nine. One to screw in the light bulb and eight to organize the
busloads of protestors to the nuclear plant that powers it.


lol!


LOL! I thought that was kind of cute.


BTW, But buddy just bought a 26 foot Harris at a bank repo. Man did he
get a good deal, too bad the 70 horse Johnson is ruined because
somebody ran some E-85 in it, but we're thinking of mounting that 115
hp Evinrude on it. The one with the barely used power head that I got
last year for a hundred bucks.


Schweeeeet!


Go for it. Sounds like a good deal. A 115 on a 26 footer doesn't seem like
overkill to me! Is this a pontoon boat or a real boat?


It's a pretty nice pontooon John that needs a bit of cleaning and some
general work work..
some people got it, abused it, blew it up then let the bank have it
back.


I'll tell you what, if I lived on a nice, quiet lake somewhere, I think I
could get used to a pontoon boat right quick. I'd have to keep the Key West
in reserve, but the idea of barbecuing my fish just minutes after it's
caught is very appealing.

Of course I'd have a BBQ on the boat!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


They are the perfect striper fishing platform around here!

Don White September 10th 08 07:18 PM

Great article!
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:25:23 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

Didn't Bush give a tax cut to the 'rich' last time?
It's the working mans turn now.


Is there a Canadian group we could go to to discuss *your* politics?


Just trying to be helpful.
BTW.. the Lt Colonel and his men have ordered you to ignore me.



Don White September 10th 08 07:20 PM

Great article!
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 04:54:56 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sep 10, 5:52 am, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:38:52 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Sep 9, 6:11 pm, John H wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m

Q: How many community organizers does it take to screw in a light
bulb? -

A: Nine. One to screw in the light bulb and eight to organize the
busloads of protestors to the nuclear plant that powers it.

lol!

LOL! I thought that was kind of cute.

BTW, But buddy just bought a 26 foot Harris at a bank repo. Man did he
get a good deal, too bad the 70 horse Johnson is ruined because
somebody ran some E-85 in it, but we're thinking of mounting that 115
hp Evinrude on it. The one with the barely used power head that I got
last year for a hundred bucks.

Schweeeeet!

Go for it. Sounds like a good deal. A 115 on a 26 footer doesn't seem
like
overkill to me! Is this a pontoon boat or a real boat?


It's a pretty nice pontooon John that needs a bit of cleaning and some
general work work..
some people got it, abused it, blew it up then let the bank have it
back.


I'll tell you what, if I lived on a nice, quiet lake somewhere, I think I
could get used to a pontoon boat right quick. I'd have to keep the Key
West
in reserve, but the idea of barbecuing my fish just minutes after it's
caught is very appealing.

Of course I'd have a BBQ on the boat!



Slap some removable pontoons on the bottom of that camper...... instant
househoat.



Calif Bill September 10th 08 07:50 PM

Great article!
 

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:16:46 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
. ..

You need to change your hearing aid batteries. The redistribution
O'Reilly
talked about is the redistribution Obama talks about continuously. The
middle class tax cut (which we know is bull****) would be financed by an
upper income tax increase.

If that's not redistribution, what is. Obama's answer to O'Reilly's
question was, "We can afford it." Why should those who have earned their
money give it away?




This is one of the most important faults of the left wing, semi-socialist
Obama economic theory.

A person (or persons) who go out and create something of value don't do so
at the expense of those that don't or can't.
There is no finite amount of value or wealth to be "grabbed". It is
created.


Oh bull****. Do you deny that slavery was used to build this country
from the beginning?



Nope. Slavery was mostly indentured servants at first. And only 26% of the
people in NC owned slaves. A minority of people. Slavery was almost done
because of the finances. Cost more to own a slave than they produced. Only
thing that kept slavery in the end was Eli Whitney and the Cotton Gin. Made
it financially viable to own slaves. Most of the country was built on the
backs of regular working people! Actually the misfits who populated this
country and took chances building a life for themselves were the builders of
this country. Do you say England was build on slavery? Was legal there
until about 1833.



HK September 10th 08 08:32 PM

Great article!
 
wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:50:15 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:16:46 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
You need to change your hearing aid batteries. The redistribution
O'Reilly
talked about is the redistribution Obama talks about continuously. The
middle class tax cut (which we know is bull****) would be financed by an
upper income tax increase.

If that's not redistribution, what is. Obama's answer to O'Reilly's
question was, "We can afford it." Why should those who have earned their
money give it away?


This is one of the most important faults of the left wing, semi-socialist
Obama economic theory.

A person (or persons) who go out and create something of value don't do so
at the expense of those that don't or can't.
There is no finite amount of value or wealth to be "grabbed". It is
created.
Oh bull****. Do you deny that slavery was used to build this country
from the beginning?


Nope. Slavery was mostly indentured servants at first. And only 26% of the
people in NC owned slaves. A minority of people. Slavery was almost done
because of the finances. Cost more to own a slave than they produced. Only
thing that kept slavery in the end was Eli Whitney and the Cotton Gin. Made
it financially viable to own slaves. Most of the country was built on the
backs of regular working people! Actually the misfits who populated this
country and took chances building a life for themselves were the builders of
this country. Do you say England was build on slavery? Was legal there
until about 1833.


WOW are YOU ever in denial.




He must have been programmed. No rational person could believe that pile
of bull****.


Tim September 10th 08 09:38 PM

Great article!
 
On Sep 10, 10:19*am, wrote:
On Sep 10, 10:27*am, John H. wrote:





On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 04:54:56 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Sep 10, 5:52*am, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:38:52 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Sep 9, 6:11*pm, John H wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m


Q: How many community organizers does it take to screw in a light
bulb? -


A: Nine. One to screw in the light bulb and eight to organize the
busloads of protestors to the nuclear plant that powers it.


lol!


LOL! I thought that was kind of cute.


BTW, But buddy just bought a 26 foot Harris at a bank repo. Man did he
get a good deal, too bad the 70 horse Johnson is ruined because
somebody ran some E-85 in it, but we're thinking of mounting that 115
hp Evinrude on it. The one with the barely used power head that I got
last year for a hundred bucks.


Schweeeeet!


Go for it. Sounds like a good deal. A 115 on a 26 footer doesn't seem like
overkill to me! Is this a pontoon boat or a real boat?


It's a pretty nice pontooon John that needs a bit of cleaning and some
general work work..
some people got it, abused it, blew it up then let the bank have it
back.


I'll tell you what, if I lived on a nice, quiet lake somewhere, I think I
could get used to a pontoon boat right quick. I'd have to keep the Key West
in reserve, but the idea of barbecuing my fish just minutes after it's
caught is very appealing.


Of course I'd have a BBQ on the boat!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


They are the perfect striper fishing platform around here!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I've seen pontoons on Carlyle stand some pretty good chop. White caps?
er... I don't think so. But there is a fella that has made a curved
aluminuum plate that lips up between the toons and will sled over the
tall chops , so waves don't go flushing over the floor. I wish I had a
pic of it to post so all could get a good grasp of the idea.

Yeah, this v-4 will work on his pontoon quite well. I'm still looking
for a bargain 28'r myself.

Yes, great platform for fishing! Like fishing right off your own
portable dock.

John H.[_5_] September 10th 08 09:56 PM

Great article!
 
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:38:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sep 10, 10:19*am, wrote:
On Sep 10, 10:27*am, John H. wrote:





On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 04:54:56 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Sep 10, 5:52*am, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:38:52 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Sep 9, 6:11*pm, John H wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m


Q: How many community organizers does it take to screw in a light
bulb? -


A: Nine. One to screw in the light bulb and eight to organize the
busloads of protestors to the nuclear plant that powers it.


lol!


LOL! I thought that was kind of cute.


BTW, But buddy just bought a 26 foot Harris at a bank repo. Man did he
get a good deal, too bad the 70 horse Johnson is ruined because
somebody ran some E-85 in it, but we're thinking of mounting that 115
hp Evinrude on it. The one with the barely used power head that I got
last year for a hundred bucks.


Schweeeeet!


Go for it. Sounds like a good deal. A 115 on a 26 footer doesn't seem like
overkill to me! Is this a pontoon boat or a real boat?


It's a pretty nice pontooon John that needs a bit of cleaning and some
general work work..
some people got it, abused it, blew it up then let the bank have it
back.


I'll tell you what, if I lived on a nice, quiet lake somewhere, I think I
could get used to a pontoon boat right quick. I'd have to keep the Key West
in reserve, but the idea of barbecuing my fish just minutes after it's
caught is very appealing.


Of course I'd have a BBQ on the boat!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


They are the perfect striper fishing platform around here!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I've seen pontoons on Carlyle stand some pretty good chop. White caps?
er... I don't think so. But there is a fella that has made a curved
aluminuum plate that lips up between the toons and will sled over the
tall chops , so waves don't go flushing over the floor. I wish I had a
pic of it to post so all could get a good grasp of the idea.

Yeah, this v-4 will work on his pontoon quite well. I'm still looking
for a bargain 28'r myself.

Yes, great platform for fishing! Like fishing right off your own
portable dock.


Once we move to NC, I may give some thought to that.
--
John H.

Tim September 10th 08 11:17 PM

Great article!
 
On Sep 10, 3:56*pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:38:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Sep 10, 10:19*am, wrote:
On Sep 10, 10:27*am, John H. wrote:


On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 04:54:56 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Sep 10, 5:52*am, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:38:52 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Sep 9, 6:11*pm, John H wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m


Q: How many community organizers does it take to screw in a light
bulb? -


A: Nine. One to screw in the light bulb and eight to organize the
busloads of protestors to the nuclear plant that powers it.


lol!


LOL! I thought that was kind of cute.


BTW, But buddy just bought a 26 foot Harris at a bank repo. Man did he
get a good deal, too bad the 70 horse Johnson is ruined because
somebody ran some E-85 in it, but we're thinking of mounting that 115
hp Evinrude on it. The one with the barely used power head that I got
last year for a hundred bucks.


Schweeeeet!


Go for it. Sounds like a good deal. A 115 on a 26 footer doesn't seem like
overkill to me! Is this a pontoon boat or a real boat?


It's a pretty nice pontooon John that needs a bit of cleaning and some
general work work..
some people got it, abused it, blew it up then let the bank have it
back.


I'll tell you what, if I lived on a nice, quiet lake somewhere, I think I
could get used to a pontoon boat right quick. I'd have to keep the Key West
in reserve, but the idea of barbecuing my fish just minutes after it's
caught is very appealing.


Of course I'd have a BBQ on the boat!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


They are the perfect striper fishing platform around here!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I've seen pontoons on Carlyle stand some pretty good chop. White caps?
er... I don't think so. But there is a fella that has made a curved
aluminuum plate that lips up between the toons and will sled over the
tall chops , so waves don't go flushing over the floor. I wish I had a
pic of it to post so all could get a good grasp of the idea.


Yeah, this v-4 will work on his pontoon quite well. I'm still looking
for a bargain 28'r myself.


Yes, great platform for fishing! *Like fishing right off your own
portable dock.


Once we move to NC, I may give some thought to that.
--
John H.


Seriously John, especially on still water I think you'd like it. Lots
of room to move around and especially great for family outings.

HK September 11th 08 01:28 AM

Great article!
 
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:11:39 -0400, John H penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m


Looks like a bunch of political crap, to me.....


But as long as it is *their* crap, the BORGmen think it is fine to post
in here.

Along with the guitar crap, the golf crap, the cloned grandchildren
crap, et cetera.

DK September 11th 08 01:29 AM

Great article!
 
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:11:39 -0400, John H penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m


Looks like a bunch of political crap, to me.....


Careful, or you will ban yourself from your own censor/server!

JimH[_5_] September 11th 08 01:46 AM

Great article!
 
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:28:02 -0400, HK wrote:

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:11:39 -0400, John H penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m


Looks like a bunch of political crap, to me.....


But as long as it is *their* crap, the BORGmen think it is fine to post
in here.

Along with the guitar crap, the golf crap, the cloned grandchildren
crap, et cetera.


Hey, give them a break........they are really trying to improve the
quality of this boating NG.

How funny.

HK September 11th 08 01:55 AM

Great article!
 
JimH wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:28:02 -0400, HK wrote:

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:11:39 -0400, John H penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m
Looks like a bunch of political crap, to me.....

But as long as it is *their* crap, the BORGmen think it is fine to post
in here.

Along with the guitar crap, the golf crap, the cloned grandchildren
crap, et cetera.


Hey, give them a break........they are really trying to improve the
quality of this boating NG.

How funny.



It is kind of funny how that the Seven Little Schitts think that a
newsgroup with virtually *nothing* being posted is an improvement, or
that JustWait describing how he plans to bounce a boat off a trailer is
the sort of interesting boating "advice" that might prove useful to others.

BTW, did you know that Herring is taking golf lessons?

What's next, a photo of a zit on the face of one of his cloned
grandchildren?

Calif Bill September 11th 08 02:13 AM

Great article!
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:50:15 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:16:46 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
You need to change your hearing aid batteries. The redistribution
O'Reilly
talked about is the redistribution Obama talks about continuously.
The
middle class tax cut (which we know is bull****) would be financed by
an
upper income tax increase.

If that's not redistribution, what is. Obama's answer to O'Reilly's
question was, "We can afford it." Why should those who have earned
their
money give it away?


This is one of the most important faults of the left wing,
semi-socialist
Obama economic theory.

A person (or persons) who go out and create something of value don't
do so
at the expense of those that don't or can't.
There is no finite amount of value or wealth to be "grabbed". It is
created.
Oh bull****. Do you deny that slavery was used to build this country
from the beginning?

Nope. Slavery was mostly indentured servants at first. And only 26% of
the people in NC owned slaves. A minority of people. Slavery was
almost done because of the finances. Cost more to own a slave than they
produced. Only thing that kept slavery in the end was Eli Whitney and
the Cotton Gin. Made it financially viable to own slaves. Most of the
country was built on the backs of regular working people! Actually the
misfits who populated this country and took chances building a life for
themselves were the builders of this country. Do you say England was
build on slavery? Was legal there until about 1833.


WOW are YOU ever in denial.




He must have been programmed. No rational person could believe that pile
of bull****.


You are Salty are the non rational people. You mean the US would not have
built without slavery. Un-fricken-believable!



HK September 11th 08 02:18 AM

Great article!
 
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:50:15 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:16:46 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
You need to change your hearing aid batteries. The redistribution
O'Reilly
talked about is the redistribution Obama talks about continuously.
The
middle class tax cut (which we know is bull****) would be financed by
an
upper income tax increase.

If that's not redistribution, what is. Obama's answer to O'Reilly's
question was, "We can afford it." Why should those who have earned
their
money give it away?

This is one of the most important faults of the left wing,
semi-socialist
Obama economic theory.

A person (or persons) who go out and create something of value don't
do so
at the expense of those that don't or can't.
There is no finite amount of value or wealth to be "grabbed". It is
created.
Oh bull****. Do you deny that slavery was used to build this country
from the beginning?
Nope. Slavery was mostly indentured servants at first. And only 26% of
the people in NC owned slaves. A minority of people. Slavery was
almost done because of the finances. Cost more to own a slave than they
produced. Only thing that kept slavery in the end was Eli Whitney and
the Cotton Gin. Made it financially viable to own slaves. Most of the
country was built on the backs of regular working people! Actually the
misfits who populated this country and took chances building a life for
themselves were the builders of this country. Do you say England was
build on slavery? Was legal there until about 1833.
WOW are YOU ever in denial.



He must have been programmed. No rational person could believe that pile
of bull****.


You are Salty are the non rational people. You mean the US would not have
built without slavery. Un-fricken-believable!



Slavery and indentured servitude were what made some colonists and
citizens rich and built some of our early infrastructure, and let's not
forget child labor and sweatshops. The haves have always exploited the
have-nots in this country.

[email protected] September 11th 08 03:11 AM

Great article!
 
On Sep 10, 9:13*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:

You are Salty are the non rational people. *You mean the US would not have
built without slavery. *Un-fricken-believable!-


Here is a possible solution for you, not sure if you saw this thread
yet..

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...34881f48773a0#

If so, sorry for bringing it up again, but it seems to be working
well, even some old faces are showing up and staying on...

HK September 11th 08 03:26 AM

Great article!
 
wrote:
On Sep 10, 9:13 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:

You are Salty are the non rational people. You mean the US would not have
built without slavery. Un-fricken-believable!-


Here is a possible solution for you, not sure if you saw this thread
yet..

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...34881f48773a0#

If so, sorry for bringing it up again, but it seems to be working
well, even some old faces are showing up and staying on...



Working well means virtually no posts, and even fewer informative or
interesting boating-related posts, but we did learn today that even with
lessons Herring can't play golf and is still planning to move sometime
to the Carolinas.

The question is, when JustWait bounces that boat off its trailer, will
it crack? :)

[email protected] September 11th 08 03:29 AM

Great article!
 
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:13:14 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:50:15 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:16:46 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
You need to change your hearing aid batteries. The redistribution
O'Reilly
talked about is the redistribution Obama talks about continuously.
The
middle class tax cut (which we know is bull****) would be financed by
an
upper income tax increase.

If that's not redistribution, what is. Obama's answer to O'Reilly's
question was, "We can afford it." Why should those who have earned
their
money give it away?


This is one of the most important faults of the left wing,
semi-socialist
Obama economic theory.

A person (or persons) who go out and create something of value don't
do so
at the expense of those that don't or can't.
There is no finite amount of value or wealth to be "grabbed". It is
created.
Oh bull****. Do you deny that slavery was used to build this country
from the beginning?

Nope. Slavery was mostly indentured servants at first. And only 26% of
the people in NC owned slaves. A minority of people. Slavery was
almost done because of the finances. Cost more to own a slave than they
produced. Only thing that kept slavery in the end was Eli Whitney and
the Cotton Gin. Made it financially viable to own slaves. Most of the
country was built on the backs of regular working people! Actually the
misfits who populated this country and took chances building a life for
themselves were the builders of this country. Do you say England was
build on slavery? Was legal there until about 1833.

WOW are YOU ever in denial.




He must have been programmed. No rational person could believe that pile
of bull****.


You are Salty are the non rational people. You mean the US would not have
built without slavery. Un-fricken-believable!


alcohol is clearly not your friend.


[email protected] September 11th 08 03:35 AM

Great article!
 
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:11:47 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Sep 10, 9:13*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:

You are Salty are the non rational people. *You mean the US would not have
built without slavery. *Un-fricken-believable!-


Here is a possible solution for you, not sure if you saw this thread
yet..

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...34881f48773a0#

If so, sorry for bringing it up again, but it seems to be working
well, even some old faces are showing up and staying on...


Thanks for the attention, Scotty-Potty! I realize you had to go back
on your word to mention me in a post, so I really apprciate it!

John H.[_5_] September 11th 08 03:50 AM

Great article!
 
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:21:29 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:11:39 -0400, John H penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

http://tinyurl.com/2ex5m


Looks like a bunch of political crap, to me.....


Didn't notice. I was just commenting on the quality of the prose!

:)
--
John H.

Tim September 11th 08 04:53 AM

Great article!
 
On Sep 10, 9:52*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:38:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

've seen pontoons on Carlyle stand some pretty good chop. White caps?
er... I don't think so. But there is a fella that has made a curved
aluminuum plate that lips up between the toons and will sled over the
tall chops , so waves don't go flushing over the floor. I wish I had a
pic of it to post so all could get a good grasp of the idea.


I saw a boston Whaler down in the keys (Grassy Key campground) that
they had cut off most of the bow rise and glassed in a flat deck to
use as a fish guts dumping boat. They had a horizontal fin across the
front for the same reason. This thing would hook a wave and go under
but the fin popped the bow back up.
I thought the same idea would work on a pontoon. I know I have been
caught out in mine and they do tend to *want to "dive and level off at
periscope depth" when the forward deck goes under. The ones with the
playpen all the way forward just crash into the sea and drown you. I
have seen the sheet metal blown out of the track. Usually what happens
is they pitch down so bad the prop comes out of the water and you pop
backwards. You can get around it by quartering the sea and
ballasting/motoring your boat to hold the fore most pontoon as high as
you can get it. It is still going to be a wet ride because when that
corner comes up it throws a bucket of water over everyone. You can get
back OK if you take it slow and easy, trying to work with the sea, and
not fight it too much.


Yes, the high wind waves can be troublesome. In those situations,
would a tri-toon be better?

Calif Bill September 11th 08 06:37 AM

Great article!
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:50:15 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:16:46 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
You need to change your hearing aid batteries. The redistribution
O'Reilly
talked about is the redistribution Obama talks about continuously.
The
middle class tax cut (which we know is bull****) would be financed
by an
upper income tax increase.

If that's not redistribution, what is. Obama's answer to O'Reilly's
question was, "We can afford it." Why should those who have earned
their
money give it away?

This is one of the most important faults of the left wing,
semi-socialist
Obama economic theory.

A person (or persons) who go out and create something of value don't
do so
at the expense of those that don't or can't.
There is no finite amount of value or wealth to be "grabbed". It
is
created.
Oh bull****. Do you deny that slavery was used to build this country
from the beginning?
Nope. Slavery was mostly indentured servants at first. And only 26%
of the people in NC owned slaves. A minority of people. Slavery was
almost done because of the finances. Cost more to own a slave than
they produced. Only thing that kept slavery in the end was Eli
Whitney and the Cotton Gin. Made it financially viable to own slaves.
Most of the country was built on the backs of regular working people!
Actually the misfits who populated this country and took chances
building a life for themselves were the builders of this country. Do
you say England was build on slavery? Was legal there until about
1833.
WOW are YOU ever in denial.



He must have been programmed. No rational person could believe that pile
of bull****.


You are Salty are the non rational people. You mean the US would not
have built without slavery. Un-fricken-believable!


Slavery and indentured servitude were what made some colonists and
citizens rich and built some of our early infrastructure, and let's not
forget child labor and sweatshops. The haves have always exploited the
have-nots in this country.


The haves have always exploited the have-nots in every country.



Calif Bill September 11th 08 06:38 AM

Great article!
 

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:13:14 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
m...
wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:50:15 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:16:46 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
You need to change your hearing aid batteries. The redistribution
O'Reilly
talked about is the redistribution Obama talks about continuously.
The
middle class tax cut (which we know is bull****) would be financed
by
an
upper income tax increase.

If that's not redistribution, what is. Obama's answer to O'Reilly's
question was, "We can afford it." Why should those who have earned
their
money give it away?


This is one of the most important faults of the left wing,
semi-socialist
Obama economic theory.

A person (or persons) who go out and create something of value don't
do so
at the expense of those that don't or can't.
There is no finite amount of value or wealth to be "grabbed". It
is
created.
Oh bull****. Do you deny that slavery was used to build this country
from the beginning?

Nope. Slavery was mostly indentured servants at first. And only 26%
of
the people in NC owned slaves. A minority of people. Slavery was
almost done because of the finances. Cost more to own a slave than
they
produced. Only thing that kept slavery in the end was Eli Whitney and
the Cotton Gin. Made it financially viable to own slaves. Most of
the
country was built on the backs of regular working people! Actually
the
misfits who populated this country and took chances building a life
for
themselves were the builders of this country. Do you say England was
build on slavery? Was legal there until about 1833.

WOW are YOU ever in denial.




He must have been programmed. No rational person could believe that pile
of bull****.


You are Salty are the non rational people. You mean the US would not have
built without slavery. Un-fricken-believable!


alcohol is clearly not your friend.


That your excuse. I rarely drink and never to excess as you seem to
constantly do.



[email protected] September 11th 08 11:26 AM

Great article!
 
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:38:06 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:13:14 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
om...
wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:50:15 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:16:46 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
You need to change your hearing aid batteries. The redistribution
O'Reilly
talked about is the redistribution Obama talks about continuously.
The
middle class tax cut (which we know is bull****) would be financed
by
an
upper income tax increase.

If that's not redistribution, what is. Obama's answer to O'Reilly's
question was, "We can afford it." Why should those who have earned
their
money give it away?


This is one of the most important faults of the left wing,
semi-socialist
Obama economic theory.

A person (or persons) who go out and create something of value don't
do so
at the expense of those that don't or can't.
There is no finite amount of value or wealth to be "grabbed". It
is
created.
Oh bull****. Do you deny that slavery was used to build this country
from the beginning?

Nope. Slavery was mostly indentured servants at first. And only 26%
of
the people in NC owned slaves. A minority of people. Slavery was
almost done because of the finances. Cost more to own a slave than
they
produced. Only thing that kept slavery in the end was Eli Whitney and
the Cotton Gin. Made it financially viable to own slaves. Most of
the
country was built on the backs of regular working people! Actually
the
misfits who populated this country and took chances building a life
for
themselves were the builders of this country. Do you say England was
build on slavery? Was legal there until about 1833.

WOW are YOU ever in denial.




He must have been programmed. No rational person could believe that pile
of bull****.


You are Salty are the non rational people. You mean the US would not have
built without slavery. Un-fricken-believable!


alcohol is clearly not your friend.


That your excuse. I rarely drink and never to excess as you seem to
constantly do.


Wrong yet again. I don't drink at all. None, nada, zip.


[email protected] September 11th 08 11:48 AM

Great article!
 
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:50:15 -0700, Calif Bill wrote:


Nope. Slavery was mostly indentured servants at first.


And, Over half of all white immigrants to the English colonies of North
America during the 17th and 18th centuries consisted of indentured
servants.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indentured_servant

And only 26% of the people in NC owned slaves.


Yeah, but 29% of the total population in the upper south, were slaves.
47% in the lower south.

http://members.aol.com/Jfepperson/stat.html




Tim September 11th 08 01:05 PM

Great article!
 
On Sep 10, 11:35*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:53:47 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:





I saw a boston Whaler down in the keys (Grassy Key campground) that
they had cut off most of the bow rise and glassed in a flat deck to
use as a fish guts dumping boat. They had a horizontal fin across the
front for the same reason. This thing would hook a wave and go under
but the fin popped the bow back up.
I thought the same idea would work on a pontoon. I know I have been
caught out in mine and they do tend to *want to "dive and level off at
periscope depth" when the forward deck goes under. The ones with the
playpen all the way forward just crash into the sea and drown you. I
have seen the sheet metal blown out of the track. Usually what happens
is they pitch down so bad the prop comes out of the water and you pop
backwards. You can get around it by quartering the sea and
ballasting/motoring your boat to hold the fore most pontoon as high as
you can get it. It is still going to be a wet ride because when that
corner comes up it throws a bucket of water over everyone. You can get
back OK if you take it slow and easy, trying to work with the sea, and
not fight it too much.


Yes, the high wind waves can be troublesome. In those situations,
would a tri-toon be better?


I imagine they give you a bit more flotation up front but the problem
is when the deck goes under it becomes a dive plane.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


That's what I was wondering if the center toon would help eliminate
that by giving better fotation to the bow.

TJ[_3_] September 11th 08 01:45 PM

OT: Great article!
 
Don White wrote:


Didn't Bush give a tax cut to the 'rich' last time?
It's the working mans turn now.


As I recall, "Bush's tax cut" went to everybody who paid taxes.
"Cutting" the taxes of those who don't pay any, i.e. the recent
"stimulus package" checks, amounts to nothing short of welfare. The only
way the "rich" can support this country by themselves is to redefine
"rich" to be anybody who has two cents to rub together.

TJ

Calif Bill September 11th 08 07:08 PM

Great article!
 

wrote in message
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On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:38:06 -0700, "Calif Bill"
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wrote in message
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On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:13:14 -0700, "Calif Bill"
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"hk" wrote in message
news:fZKdnZmjKfN8vVXVnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@comcast. com...
wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:50:15 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:16:46 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
You need to change your hearing aid batteries. The redistribution
O'Reilly
talked about is the redistribution Obama talks about
continuously.
The
middle class tax cut (which we know is bull****) would be
financed
by
an
upper income tax increase.

If that's not redistribution, what is. Obama's answer to
O'Reilly's
question was, "We can afford it." Why should those who have
earned
their
money give it away?


This is one of the most important faults of the left wing,
semi-socialist
Obama economic theory.

A person (or persons) who go out and create something of value
don't
do so
at the expense of those that don't or can't.
There is no finite amount of value or wealth to be "grabbed". It
is
created.
Oh bull****. Do you deny that slavery was used to build this
country
from the beginning?

Nope. Slavery was mostly indentured servants at first. And only
26%
of
the people in NC owned slaves. A minority of people. Slavery was
almost done because of the finances. Cost more to own a slave than
they
produced. Only thing that kept slavery in the end was Eli Whitney
and
the Cotton Gin. Made it financially viable to own slaves. Most of
the
country was built on the backs of regular working people! Actually
the
misfits who populated this country and took chances building a life
for
themselves were the builders of this country. Do you say England
was
build on slavery? Was legal there until about 1833.

WOW are YOU ever in denial.




He must have been programmed. No rational person could believe that
pile
of bull****.


You are Salty are the non rational people. You mean the US would not
have
built without slavery. Un-fricken-believable!


alcohol is clearly not your friend.


That your excuse. I rarely drink and never to excess as you seem to
constantly do.


Wrong yet again. I don't drink at all. None, nada, zip.


React with your drug intake?




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