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Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 19:36:13 -0400, hk wrote: I have better We eagerly await the pictures so we can properly critique it. I ran across this one in Crisfield, MD last September and thought it might be something like yours: http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1724/dscn1373ui0.jpg Sure you did, W'hine. Oh...any chance you'll blow another transmission this year? The photos are eagerly awaited. Actually, the system I prefer on larger boats is a small, wired remote commander. My old Parker had this arrangement: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...yohodocked.jpg Wheel, throttle, gearshift, kill button and second fishfinder. (Note to Eisboch...is this post of W'hine's one that meets your standards?) |
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On Sep 7, 7:05*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 19:59:15 -0400, John H wrote: I have a secondary control station mounted towards the stern. Her name is Sandy. Isn't that called a command bridge ? Or gives new meaning to "rear admiral" |
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On Sep 7, 10:33*pm, hk wrote:
Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 19:36:13 -0400, hk wrote: I have better We eagerly await the pictures so we can properly critique it. *I ran across this one in Crisfield, MD last September and thought it might be something like yours: http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1724/dscn1373ui0.jpg Sure you did, W'hine. Oh...any chance you'll blow another transmission this year? The photos are eagerly awaited. Actually, the system I prefer on larger boats is a small, wired remote commander. My old Parker had this arrangement: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...0Boats/yohodoc... Wheel, throttle, gearshift, kill button and second fishfinder. (Note to Eisboch...is this post of W'hine's one that meets your standards?) What does your 36' Zimmerman like lobster boat have? |
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On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 05:39:52 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
?) What does your 36' Zimmerman like lobster boat have? Loogy, does communicating with him help the group? Will you consider stopping, please? |
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- Show quoted text - Loogie, for **** sake.. we know he is a liar, we know he is a raped little bitch, but please, we don't need to keep hearing about it. Many of us have agreed to completely ignore him, and not quote him either, try joining the fight, from our side... |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 19:36:13 -0400, hk wrote: I have better We eagerly await the pictures so we can properly critique it. I ran across this one in Crisfield, MD last September and thought it might be something like yours: http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1724/dscn1373ui0.jpg I love the exhaust stack. |
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"jim" wrote in message ... Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 19:36:13 -0400, hk wrote: I have better We eagerly await the pictures so we can properly critique it. I ran across this one in Crisfield, MD last September and thought it might be something like yours: http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1724/dscn1373ui0.jpg I love the exhaust stack. Doubles as a heater when hauling traps in the winter. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"jim" wrote in message ... Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 19:36:13 -0400, hk wrote: I have better We eagerly await the pictures so we can properly critique it. I ran across this one in Crisfield, MD last September and thought it might be something like yours: http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1724/dscn1373ui0.jpg I love the exhaust stack. Doubles as a heater when hauling traps in the winter. Eisboch Contributing still, hey, Eisboch? |
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wrote in message ... - Show quoted text - Loogie, for **** sake.. we know he is a liar, we know he is a raped little bitch, but please, we don't need to keep hearing about it. Many of us have agreed to completely ignore him, and not quote him either, try joining the fight, from our side... It looks like the only way to do this is to filter loogy as well. --Mike |
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On Sep 8, 11:20*am, "Mike" wrote:
wrote in message ... - Show quoted text - Loogie, for **** sake.. we know he is a liar, we know he is a raped little bitch, but please, we don't need to keep hearing about it. Many of us have agreed to completely ignore him, and not quote him either, try joining the fight, from our side... It looks like the only way to do this is to filter loogy as well. --Mike Go for it. |
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On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 08:20:17 -0700, "Mike" wrote:
wrote in message ... - Show quoted text - Loogie, for **** sake.. we know he is a liar, we know he is a raped little bitch, but please, we don't need to keep hearing about it. Many of us have agreed to completely ignore him, and not quote him either, try joining the fight, from our side... It looks like the only way to do this is to filter loogy as well. --Mike Methinks you may be correct. |
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(Wayne.B)wrote
We eagerly await the pictures so we can properly critique it. I ran across this one in Crisfield, MD last September and thought it might be something like yours: http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1724/dscn1373ui0.jpg Looks alot like the setup I had on my old crab boat, Pot hauler and all, Also very effective for single handling, push the stick forward turn to port, pull back to go starboard. Mine had wet exhaust though, my dockmate had a drystacked workboat with a 455 in it, and to keep the water out would stick old soup cans on the stacks. One morning as I was crossing his boat to get to mine he hit the starter button forgetting to uncap the exhaust,and they flew off with one hitting me square in the head, *&^% that hurt! Always watched out for soup cans and drystacked boats after that. UD |
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UglyDan®©™ wrote:
(Wayne.B)wrote We eagerly await the pictures so we can properly critique it. I ran across this one in Crisfield, MD last September and thought it might be something like yours: http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1724/dscn1373ui0.jpg Looks alot like the setup I had on my old crab boat, Pot hauler and all, Also very effective for single handling, push the stick forward turn to port, pull back to go starboard. Mine had wet exhaust though, my dockmate had a drystacked workboat with a 455 in it, and to keep the water out would stick old soup cans on the stacks. One morning as I was crossing his boat to get to mine he hit the starter button forgetting to uncap the exhaust,and they flew off with one hitting me square in the head, *&^% that hurt! Always watched out for soup cans and drystacked boats after that. UD I've seen a few new boats around with a second steering station and the wheel for that attached to the bulkhead, so that if you turned the wheel towards the bow, the boat would turn towards port, and towards the stern, the boat would turn towards starboard. It used to be that way on many of the older inboard boats of the 1950s. It sure saves space in the cockpit on smaller boats. |
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On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 20:15:49 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
So, maybe the thing to do is to get another Navigator. The one I had was a "4800 Classic" which is 52'8" LOA. It was a bit too big to easily single-hand, which is the main reason we sold it. (Plus, at the time, we also had the 36 GB). To me one of the key things for easy single handing is a walk around deck, like a classic Grand Banks. This is particularly valuable when docking between pilings or between finger piers when you need to get lines down on both sides as you come in. Easy access from the helm station to both sides of the boat is important also. There are other little tricks like leaving your dock lines behind at the slip when you go out, preferably on raised poles with a hook for the line. A good anchor windlass with multiple control points is also valuable. On our home dock I left the face pilings extra high, about 12 feet above sea level. This was primarily so the boat could not ride over the top in a storm surge but it also makes it easy to snag a line around a piling from the flybridge deck. Typically I will lead a spring line up to the flybridge in advance if I'm going out by myself. I've also adopted a new docking approach recently when coming into a face dock: I slowly approach the dock at an angle, bow first; stop the boat; secure a bow line, and then crank the stern in with the engines. At home I have a permanent bow line I can grab with a boat hook. At a marina with pilings I will loop a bow line around a piling with a boat hook, or pass a line down to a dockhand on a floating dock. Once the bow is secure I can crank the stern in parallel using the engines and rudders. Using that technique I can dock between two other boats with very little room to spare and with good control. Everyone always asks if I have thrusters. Regarding your boat quest, I'd recommend making up a priority matrix with things like cruising speed, number of heads/staterooms, fuel range, fuel economy, single vs twins, galley location, flybridge vs express, offshore vs coastal, stabilizers, etc. Everything is a tradeoff so it's important to understand the things that are most important to you. It's a buyers market right now. |
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On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 20:34:15 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: On Sep 7, 7:05*pm, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 19:59:15 -0400, John H wrote: I have a secondary control station mounted towards the stern. Her name is Sandy. Isn't that called a command bridge ? Or gives new meaning to "rear admiral" Oh, my "admiral" is very forward about it. |
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(Richard*Casady)wrote
All the construction equipment has attached caps that rotate open under exhaust pressure. Those dealers have parts departments. Casady True, but soup cans are cheaper, Most of the watermen I knew didn't have alot of $$ to spare on flappers, or we're just plain cheap. As a matter of fact the same dockmate I mentioned pulled that 455 out of an old Pontiac to use in his boat. I made the keel coolers for him. Sometimes in order to make a living, and put food on the table you have to be creative. UD |
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On Sep 8, 4:17*pm, (UglyDan®©™) wrote:
*(Richard*Casady)wrote All the construction equipment has attached caps that rotate open under exhaust pressure. Those dealers have parts departments. Casady * True, but soup cans are cheaper, Most of the watermen I knew didn't have alot of $$ to spare on flappers, or we're just plain cheap. As a matter of fact the same dockmate I mentioned pulled that 455 out of an old Pontiac to use in his boat. I made the keel coolers for him. Sometimes in order to make a living, and put food on the table you have to be creative. UD I know exactly what you mean! I grew up on a farm and when something broke, you didn't take it to the shop, you fixed it. I sure learned alot that way, though. It amazes me when I see people my age and younger that don't know how to do anything for themselves. |
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On Sep 8, 4:35*pm, wrote:
On Sep 8, 4:17*pm, (UglyDan®©™) wrote: *(Richard*Casady)wrote All the construction equipment has attached caps that rotate open under exhaust pressure. Those dealers have parts departments. Casady * True, but soup cans are cheaper, Most of the watermen I knew didn't have alot of $$ to spare on flappers, or we're just plain cheap. As a matter of fact the same dockmate I mentioned pulled that 455 out of an old Pontiac to use in his boat. I made the keel coolers for him. Sometimes in order to make a living, and put food on the table you have to be creative. UD I know exactly what you mean! I grew up on a farm and when something broke, you didn't take it to the shop, you fixed it. I sure learned alot that way, though. It amazes me when I see people my age and younger that don't know how to do anything for themselves. Don't feel sorry for them, they can always go teach at university;) |
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On Sep 8, 4:44*pm, wrote:
On Sep 8, 4:35*pm, wrote: On Sep 8, 4:17*pm, (UglyDan®©™) wrote: *(Richard*Casady)wrote All the construction equipment has attached caps that rotate open under exhaust pressure. Those dealers have parts departments. Casady * True, but soup cans are cheaper, Most of the watermen I knew didn't have alot of $$ to spare on flappers, or we're just plain cheap. As a matter of fact the same dockmate I mentioned pulled that 455 out of an old Pontiac to use in his boat. I made the keel coolers for him. Sometimes in order to make a living, and put food on the table you have to be creative. UD I know exactly what you mean! I grew up on a farm and when something broke, you didn't take it to the shop, you fixed it. I sure learned alot that way, though. It amazes me when I see people my age and younger that don't know how to do anything for themselves. Don't feel sorry for them, they can always go teach at university;)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Or go to some diploma mill liberal arts school! |
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On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 08:20:17 -0700, "Mike" wrote:
wrote in message ... - Show quoted text - Loogie, for **** sake.. we know he is a liar, we know he is a raped little bitch, but please, we don't need to keep hearing about it. Many of us have agreed to completely ignore him, and not quote him either, try joining the fight, from our side... It looks like the only way to do this is to filter loogy as well. --Mike You just reposted a post that talks about Harry. You may join the loser list with Scotty Potty and Loogy. Buncha loud mouthed wimps with no resolve or character. |
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"Mike" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... - Show quoted text - Loogie, for **** sake.. we know he is a liar, we know he is a raped little bitch, but please, we don't need to keep hearing about it. Many of us have agreed to completely ignore him, and not quote him either, try joining the fight, from our side... It looks like the only way to do this is to filter loogy as well. --Mike I am giving him one more chance. Eisboch |
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On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:47:58 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 20:15:49 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: So, maybe the thing to do is to get another Navigator. The one I had was a "4800 Classic" which is 52'8" LOA. It was a bit too big to easily single-hand, which is the main reason we sold it. (Plus, at the time, we also had the 36 GB). To me one of the key things for easy single handing is a walk around deck, like a classic Grand Banks. This is particularly valuable when docking between pilings or between finger piers when you need to get lines down on both sides as you come in. Easy access from the helm station to both sides of the boat is important also. There are other little tricks like leaving your dock lines behind at the slip when you go out, preferably on raised poles with a hook for the line. A good anchor windlass with multiple control points is also valuable. On our home dock I left the face pilings extra high, about 12 feet above sea level. This was primarily so the boat could not ride over the top in a storm surge but it also makes it easy to snag a line around a piling from the flybridge deck. Typically I will lead a spring line up to the flybridge in advance if I'm going out by myself. I've also adopted a new docking approach recently when coming into a face dock: I slowly approach the dock at an angle, bow first; stop the boat; secure a bow line, and then crank the stern in with the engines. At home I have a permanent bow line I can grab with a boat hook. At a marina with pilings I will loop a bow line around a piling with a boat hook, or pass a line down to a dockhand on a floating dock. Once the bow is secure I can crank the stern in parallel using the engines and rudders. Using that technique I can dock between two other boats with very little room to spare and with good control. Everyone always asks if I have thrusters. Regarding your boat quest, I'd recommend making up a priority matrix with things like cruising speed, number of heads/staterooms, fuel range, fuel economy, single vs twins, galley location, flybridge vs express, offshore vs coastal, stabilizers, etc. Everything is a tradeoff so it's important to understand the things that are most important to you. It's a buyers market right now. MADM, that could mean medium atomic demolition munition, but in this context it's Multiple Attribute Decision Making. (Or it used to be.) If interested, I'll explain the technique. It will definitely make you think. |
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On Sep 8, 6:55*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message ... wrote in message .... - Show quoted text - Loogie, for **** sake.. we know he is a liar, we know he is a raped little bitch, but please, we don't need to keep hearing about it. Many of us have agreed to completely ignore him, and not quote him either, try joining the fight, from our side... It looks like the only way to do this is to filter loogy as well. --Mike I am giving him one more chance. Eisboch He joined in the agreement here in the thread link below. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...34881f48773a0# So far, all of us have held our powder... even Loogie since a bit of clarification further down the thread;) I think the list there is up to 5-6 of us so far, we would sure be glad to see you join in with us for a week and give it a shot? Care to put your name on that list? |
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"jim" wrote in message ... wrote: On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 08:20:17 -0700, "Mike" wrote: You aren't helping............PLONK Great minds, yada, yada, yada, Bye salty .... PLONK Eisboch |
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wrote in message ... On Sep 8, 6:55 pm, "Eisboch" wrote: "Mike" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... - Show quoted text - Loogie, for **** sake.. we know he is a liar, we know he is a raped little bitch, but please, we don't need to keep hearing about it. Many of us have agreed to completely ignore him, and not quote him either, try joining the fight, from our side... It looks like the only way to do this is to filter loogy as well. --Mike I am giving him one more chance. Eisboch He joined in the agreement here in the thread link below. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...34881f48773a0# So far, all of us have held our powder... even Loogie since a bit of clarification further down the thread;) I think the list there is up to 5-6 of us so far, we would sure be glad to see you join in with us for a week and give it a shot? Care to put your name on that list? I don't need to join a list. Doing my own thing. Thanks. Eisboch |
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On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 16:03:01 -0700 (PDT),
wrote: On Sep 8, 6:55*pm, "Eisboch" wrote: "Mike" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... - Show quoted text - Loogie, for **** sake.. we know he is a liar, we know he is a raped little bitch, but please, we don't need to keep hearing about it. Many of us have agreed to completely ignore him, and not quote him either, try joining the fight, from our side... It looks like the only way to do this is to filter loogy as well. --Mike I am giving him one more chance. Eisboch He joined in the agreement here in the thread link below. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...34881f48773a0# So far, all of us have held our powder... even Loogie since a bit of clarification further down the thread;) I think the list there is up to 5-6 of us so far, we would sure be glad to see you join in with us for a week and give it a shot? Care to put your name on that list? Oh. look! Compulsive Scotty reposts stuff about Harry... AGAIN! He can't stop himself, but he wants everyone else to stop. |
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On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 16:03:01 -0700 (PDT),
wrote: On Sep 8, 6:55*pm, "Eisboch" wrote: "Mike" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... - Show quoted text - Loogie, for **** sake.. we know he is a liar, we know he is a raped little bitch, but please, we don't need to keep hearing about it. Many of us have agreed to completely ignore him, and not quote him either, try joining the fight, from our side... It looks like the only way to do this is to filter loogy as well. --Mike I am giving him one more chance. Eisboch He joined in the agreement here in the thread link below. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...34881f48773a0# So far, all of us have held our powder... even Loogie since a bit of clarification further down the thread;) I think the list there is up to 5-6 of us so far, we would sure be glad to see you join in with us for a week and give it a shot? Care to put your name on that list? You go girl! |
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wrote:
On Sep 7, 10:33 pm, hk wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 19:36:13 -0400, hk wrote: I have better We eagerly await the pictures so we can properly critique it. I ran across this one in Crisfield, MD last September and thought it might be something like yours: http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1724/dscn1373ui0.jpg Sure you did, W'hine. Oh...any chance you'll blow another transmission this year? The photos are eagerly awaited. Actually, the system I prefer on larger boats is a small, wired remote commander. My old Parker had this arrangement: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...0Boats/yohodoc... Wheel, throttle, gearshift, kill button and second fishfinder. (Note to Eisboch...is this post of W'hine's one that meets your standards?) What does your 36' Zimmerman like lobster boat have? What a waste of good money. Maybe the 2nd fish finder was the deal maker? |
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On Sep 8, 7:19*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Sep 8, 6:55 pm, "Eisboch" wrote: "Mike" wrote in message .. . wrote in message .... - Show quoted text - Loogie, for **** sake.. we know he is a liar, we know he is a raped little bitch, but please, we don't need to keep hearing about it. Many of us have agreed to completely ignore him, and not quote him either, try joining the fight, from our side... It looks like the only way to do this is to filter loogy as well. --Mike I am giving him one more chance. Eisboch He joined in the agreement here in the thread link below. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...thread/8f33488... So far, all of us have held our powder... even Loogie since a bit of clarification further down the thread;) I think the list there is up to 5-6 of us so far, we would sure be glad to see you join in with us for a week and give it a shot? Care to put your name on that list? I don't need to join a list. *Doing my own thing. *Thanks. Eisboch Tell us again about the houses you paid for with cash and made millions on when selling them Richard. http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/327671 |
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Eisboch wrote:
"jim" wrote in message ... wrote: On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 08:20:17 -0700, "Mike" wrote: You aren't helping............PLONK Great minds, yada, yada, yada, Bye salty .... PLONK Eisboch I do agree it is best to just filter those you don't want to see. |
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On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:55:57 -0400, John H wrote:
in this context it's Multiple Attribute Decision Making. (Or it used to be.) If interested, I'll explain the technique. It will definitely make you think. By all means ! |
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On Sep 8, 8:41*am, jim wrote:
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1724/dscn1373ui0.jpg I love the exhaust stack. What's that round thingie hooked onto the side with rust under it. some kind of ash tray? |
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On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:31:30 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:55:57 -0400, John H wrote: in this context it's Multiple Attribute Decision Making. (Or it used to be.) If interested, I'll explain the technique. It will definitely make you think. By all means ! Will do Wayne, but I've got to go play golf. Will do it when I get back this afternoon. |
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John H wrote:
On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:31:30 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:55:57 -0400, John H wrote: in this context it's Multiple Attribute Decision Making. (Or it used to be.) If interested, I'll explain the technique. It will definitely make you think. By all means ! Will do Wayne, but I've got to go play golf. Will do it when I get back this afternoon. Subject fixer; contents Off Topic for rec.boats |
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