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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
these folks to talk to Harry about Stumpy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roFB7bGCAgc Sorry, Brownie...Stumpy is no more. How's that 20" transom on your Ranger in a following sea...I'll bet it is a real shorts stainer, eh? |
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On Sep 7, 9:17*am, hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: these folks to talk to Harry about Stumpy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roFB7bGCAgc Sorry, Brownie...Stumpy is no more. How's that 20" transom on your Ranger in a following sea...I'll bet it is a real shorts stainer, eh? That's our narcissistic Hairy! Anything that Harry has is the best there is (even if most are lies) and everything anybody else has is awful. Just ask him. |
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hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: these folks to talk to Harry about Stumpy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roFB7bGCAgc Sorry, Brownie...Stumpy is no more. Harry, What are you going to kill now that Stumpy is gone? |
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hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: these folks to talk to Harry about Stumpy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roFB7bGCAgc Sorry, Brownie...Stumpy is no more. How's that 20" transom on your Ranger in a following sea...I'll bet it is a real shorts stainer, eh? Does SWS have a big hole in his transom? If so he really should keep that boat in lakes and only use it on calm days, the same as you do. Now if he has a boat with a "real" 20" transom it will keep out waves, wakes and a following sea, substantially better than your Baby Parker. I really have enjoyed all of your photos of your Baby Parker parked on it's trailer, but the only time you posted a photo of it actually in the water was last year, when you took a photo of it's hour meter. Isn't it time to post an update of your hour meter? |
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On Sep 7, 10:06*am, RPSIII wrote:
hk wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: these folks to talk to Harry about Stumpy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roFB7bGCAgc Sorry, Brownie...Stumpy is no more. How's that 20" transom on your Ranger in a following sea...I'll bet it is a real shorts stainer, eh? Does SWS have a big hole in his transom? *If so he really should keep that boat in lakes and only use it on calm days, the same as you do. Now if he has a boat with a "real" 20" transom it will keep out waves, wakes and a following sea, substantially better than your Baby Parker. I really have enjoyed all of your photos of your Baby Parker parked on it's trailer, but the only time you posted a photo of it actually in the water was last year, when you took a photo of it's hour meter. Isn't it time to post an update of your hour meter? Shortpants Ranger is a nice smooth "Bay Boat", that will handle almost anything you throw at it. I have been on the thing skimming over the waves, airborne, it flies nice. The problem with the parker is, it has not kept up with the times. It's plain Jane, and has all of the appeal of a Payson Brick..Those geezers there don't understand that with new technology, a boat can be functional AND look like the lines were drawn this century by someone with other than a t-square.. Not to mention, that huge hole in the ass end.. Guess they couldn't take the time to put the hull on a board and incorporate a body style that suits it's 20 inch transom.. Instead they put high sides around the 20" transom, square and ugly of course, to meet the sides.. Like sticking two different boats together with kindergarten paste... |
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wrote: On Sep 7, 10:06 am, RPSIII wrote: hk wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: these folks to talk to Harry about Stumpy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roFB7bGCAgc Sorry, Brownie...Stumpy is no more. How's that 20" transom on your Ranger in a following sea...I'll bet it is a real shorts stainer, eh? Does SWS have a big hole in his transom? If so he really should keep that boat in lakes and only use it on calm days, the same as you do. Now if he has a boat with a "real" 20" transom it will keep out waves, wakes and a following sea, substantially better than your Baby Parker. I really have enjoyed all of your photos of your Baby Parker parked on it's trailer, but the only time you posted a photo of it actually in the water was last year, when you took a photo of it's hour meter. Isn't it time to post an update of your hour meter? Shortpants Ranger is a nice smooth "Bay Boat", that will handle almost anything you throw at it. I have been on the thing skimming over the waves, airborne, it flies nice. The problem with the parker is, it has not kept up with the times. It's plain Jane, and has all of the appeal of a Payson Brick..Those geezers there don't understand that with new technology, a boat can be functional AND look like the lines were drawn this century by someone with other than a t-square.. Not to mention, that huge hole in the ass end.. Guess they couldn't take the time to put the hull on a board and incorporate a body style that suits it's 20 inch transom.. Instead they put high sides around the 20" transom, square and ugly of course, to meet the sides.. Like sticking two different boats together with kindergarten paste... It's a 25" transom at the notch, **** for brains. Just, Damn, I had no idea SWS boat was so unsafe. You are lucky you escaped alive. Since SWS actually uses his boat, his time has come, he is a goner, that boat will get flooded, his ETEC will failed, and he will be shark bait before you know it. Whatever you do, don't go out on that boat again. From what I can tell, Harry's boat has never come close to sinking on the trailer, the only problem is that it does have a tendency to collect some leaves on the cover from lack of use. |
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On Sep 7, 10:28*am, HK wrote:
wrote: On Sep 7, 10:06 am, RPSIII wrote: hk wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: these folks to talk to Harry about Stumpy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roFB7bGCAgc Sorry, Brownie...Stumpy is no more. How's that 20" transom on your Ranger in a following sea...I'll bet it is a real shorts stainer, eh? Does SWS have a big hole in his transom? *If so he really should keep that boat in lakes and only use it on calm days, the same as you do. Now if he has a boat with a "real" 20" transom it will keep out waves, wakes and a following sea, substantially better than your Baby Parker. I really have enjoyed all of your photos of your Baby Parker parked on it's trailer, but the only time you posted a photo of it actually in the water was last year, when you took a photo of it's hour meter. Isn't it time to post an update of your hour meter? Shortpants Ranger is a nice smooth "Bay Boat", that will handle almost anything you throw at it. I have been on the thing skimming over the waves, airborne, it flies nice. The problem with the parker is, it has not kept up with the times. It's plain Jane, and has all of the appeal of a Payson Brick..Those geezers there don't understand that with new technology, a boat can be functional AND look like the lines were drawn this century by someone with other than a t-square.. Not to mention, that huge hole in the ass end.. Guess they couldn't take the time to put the hull on a board and incorporate a body style that suits it's 20 inch transom.. Instead they put high sides around the 20" transom, square and ugly of course, to meet the sides.. Like sticking two different boats together with kindergarten paste... It's a 25" transom at the notch, **** for brains.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - To the bottom of the Vee.. but you can spin it any way you wish.. It's like a Mr. Potato head boat. They took an old worn out design, and added a vee and a big notch to accomodate updated power.. None of the parts fit, like some kid put it together.... |
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On Sep 7, 10:28 am, HK wrote: wrote: On Sep 7, 10:06 am, RPSIII wrote: hk wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: these folks to talk to Harry about Stumpy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roFB7bGCAgc Sorry, Brownie...Stumpy is no more. How's that 20" transom on your Ranger in a following sea...I'll bet it is a real shorts stainer, eh? Does SWS have a big hole in his transom? If so he really should keep that boat in lakes and only use it on calm days, the same as you do. Now if he has a boat with a "real" 20" transom it will keep out waves, wakes and a following sea, substantially better than your Baby Parker. I really have enjoyed all of your photos of your Baby Parker parked on it's trailer, but the only time you posted a photo of it actually in the water was last year, when you took a photo of it's hour meter. Isn't it time to post an update of your hour meter? Shortpants Ranger is a nice smooth "Bay Boat", that will handle almost anything you throw at it. I have been on the thing skimming over the waves, airborne, it flies nice. The problem with the parker is, it has not kept up with the times. It's plain Jane, and has all of the appeal of a Payson Brick..Those geezers there don't understand that with new technology, a boat can be functional AND look like the lines were drawn this century by someone with other than a t-square.. Not to mention, that huge hole in the ass end.. Guess they couldn't take the time to put the hull on a board and incorporate a body style that suits it's 20 inch transom.. Instead they put high sides around the 20" transom, square and ugly of course, to meet the sides.. Like sticking two different boats together with kindergarten paste... It's a 25" transom at the notch, **** for brains.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - To the bottom of the Vee.. but you can spin it any way you wish.. It's like a Mr. Potato head boat. They took an old worn out design, and added a vee and a big notch to accomodate updated power.. None of the parts fit, like some kid put it together.... You are overfull of **** and haven't a clue. I've seen photos of the crappy little boats you build...and it is obvious you haven't a clue. That's right...it's 25" from the top of the transom notch to the bottom of the boat at the transom. How the hell do you think transom height is measured? Idiot. |
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On Sep 7, 10:36*am, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " wrote: HK wrote: wrote: On Sep 7, 10:06 am, RPSIII wrote: hk wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: these folks to talk to Harry about Stumpy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roFB7bGCAgc Sorry, Brownie...Stumpy is no more. How's that 20" transom on your Ranger in a following sea...I'll bet it is a real shorts stainer, eh? Does SWS have a big hole in his transom? *If so he really should keep that boat in lakes and only use it on calm days, the same as you do. Now if he has a boat with a "real" 20" transom it will keep out waves, wakes and a following sea, substantially better than your Baby Parker.. I really have enjoyed all of your photos of your Baby Parker parked on it's trailer, but the only time you posted a photo of it actually in the water was last year, when you took a photo of it's hour meter. Isn't it time to post an update of your hour meter? Shortpants Ranger is a nice smooth "Bay Boat", that will handle almost anything you throw at it. I have been on the thing skimming over the waves, airborne, it flies nice. The problem with the parker is, it has not kept up with the times. It's plain Jane, and has all of the appeal of a Payson Brick..Those geezers there don't understand that with new technology, a boat can be functional AND look like the lines were drawn this century by someone with other than a t-square.. Not to mention, that huge hole in the ass end.. Guess they couldn't take the time to put the hull on a board and incorporate a body style that suits it's 20 inch transom.. Instead they put high sides around the 20" transom, square and ugly of course, to meet the sides.. Like sticking two different boats together with kindergarten paste... It's a 25" transom at the notch, **** for brains. Just, Damn, I had no idea SWS boat was so unsafe. *You are lucky you escaped alive. *Since SWS actually uses his boat, his time has come, he is a goner, that boat will get flooded, his ETEC will failed, and he will be shark bait before you know it. *Whatever you do, don't go out on that boat again. Let me tell you something.. Shortpants will get you home, I have no doubt. One day we were heading out toward the race and he asked if I wanted to take the trip through the notch. He said it would get pretty hairy, but we could do it. I told him he was he Captain, I am just along for the ride;) If I don't trust a Captain and his gear, I won't get on the boat in the first place. The boat was awesome, big air, flies straight, lands soft. Tom sees water, conditions, weather, long before it is a part of the equation. *From what I can tell, Harry's boat has never come close to sinking on the trailer, the only problem is that it does have a tendency to collect some leaves on the cover from lack of use. See, it's like Payson/Bolger's old boat "cartopper" [http:// smallboats.com/boats_cartopper.htm]. It's made to row, sail, and motor.. Problem is, it like any other tradeoff boat, does none of them very well. Looking at Hawwys Pawkah, it seems a lazy design. They took a flat old bay boat, added high sides (with no appeal) a deep vee, and a huge honkin' hole in the transom instead of thinking things out and re-tooling for modern advances, and said to the truly stupid, here is an ocean goer, capable even Hawways grandest adventures. Who can forget sailing single handed from Catalina Island, rounding the horn, and the other great deeds our dear wafa has claimed.. |
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On Sep 7, 10:36 am, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " wrote: HK wrote: wrote: On Sep 7, 10:06 am, RPSIII wrote: hk wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: these folks to talk to Harry about Stumpy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roFB7bGCAgc Sorry, Brownie...Stumpy is no more. How's that 20" transom on your Ranger in a following sea...I'll bet it is a real shorts stainer, eh? Does SWS have a big hole in his transom? If so he really should keep that boat in lakes and only use it on calm days, the same as you do. Now if he has a boat with a "real" 20" transom it will keep out waves, wakes and a following sea, substantially better than your Baby Parker. I really have enjoyed all of your photos of your Baby Parker parked on it's trailer, but the only time you posted a photo of it actually in the water was last year, when you took a photo of it's hour meter. Isn't it time to post an update of your hour meter? Shortpants Ranger is a nice smooth "Bay Boat", that will handle almost anything you throw at it. I have been on the thing skimming over the waves, airborne, it flies nice. The problem with the parker is, it has not kept up with the times. It's plain Jane, and has all of the appeal of a Payson Brick..Those geezers there don't understand that with new technology, a boat can be functional AND look like the lines were drawn this century by someone with other than a t-square.. Not to mention, that huge hole in the ass end.. Guess they couldn't take the time to put the hull on a board and incorporate a body style that suits it's 20 inch transom.. Instead they put high sides around the 20" transom, square and ugly of course, to meet the sides.. Like sticking two different boats together with kindergarten paste... It's a 25" transom at the notch, **** for brains. Just, Damn, I had no idea SWS boat was so unsafe. You are lucky you escaped alive. Since SWS actually uses his boat, his time has come, he is a goner, that boat will get flooded, his ETEC will failed, and he will be shark bait before you know it. Whatever you do, don't go out on that boat again. Let me tell you something.. Shortpants will get you home, I have no doubt. One day we were heading out toward the race and he asked if I wanted to take the trip through the notch. He said it would get pretty hairy, but we could do it. I told him he was he Captain, I am just along for the ride;) If I don't trust a Captain and his gear, I won't get on the boat in the first place. The boat was awesome, big air, flies straight, lands soft. Tom sees water, conditions, weather, long before it is a part of the equation. From what I can tell, Harry's boat has never come close to sinking on the trailer, the only problem is that it does have a tendency to collect some leaves on the cover from lack of use. See, it's like Payson/Bolger's old boat "cartopper" [http:// smallboats.com/boats_cartopper.htm]. It's made to row, sail, and motor.. Problem is, it like any other tradeoff boat, does none of them very well. Looking at Hawwys Pawkah, it seems a lazy design. They took a flat old bay boat, added high sides (with no appeal) a deep vee, and a huge honkin' hole in the transom instead of thinking things out and re-tooling for modern advances, and said to the truly stupid, here is an ocean goer, capable even Hawways grandest adventures. Who can forget sailing single handed from Catalina Island, rounding the horn, and the other great deeds our dear wafa has claimed.. This from a guy who can't even paint a wood boat in workmanlike fashion? |
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On Sep 7, 10:48*am, HK wrote:
wrote: On Sep 7, 10:36 am, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " wrote: HK wrote: wrote: On Sep 7, 10:06 am, RPSIII wrote: hk wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: these folks to talk to Harry about Stumpy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roFB7bGCAgc Sorry, Brownie...Stumpy is no more. How's that 20" transom on your Ranger in a following sea...I'll bet it is a real shorts stainer, eh? Does SWS have a big hole in his transom? *If so he really should keep that boat in lakes and only use it on calm days, the same as you do.. Now if he has a boat with a "real" 20" transom it will keep out waves, wakes and a following sea, substantially better than your Baby Parker. I really have enjoyed all of your photos of your Baby Parker parked on it's trailer, but the only time you posted a photo of it actually in the water was last year, when you took a photo of it's hour meter. Isn't it time to post an update of your hour meter? Shortpants Ranger is a nice smooth "Bay Boat", that will handle almost anything you throw at it. I have been on the thing skimming over the waves, airborne, it flies nice. The problem with the parker is, it has not kept up with the times. It's plain Jane, and has all of the appeal of a Payson Brick..Those geezers there don't understand that with new technology, a boat can be functional AND look like the lines were drawn this century by someone with other than a t-square.. Not to mention, that huge hole in the ass end.. Guess they couldn't take the time to put the hull on a board and incorporate a body style that suits it's 20 inch transom.. Instead they put high sides around the 20" transom, square and ugly of course, to meet the sides.. Like sticking two different boats together with kindergarten paste... It's a 25" transom at the notch, **** for brains. Just, Damn, I had no idea SWS boat was so unsafe. *You are lucky you escaped alive. *Since SWS actually uses his boat, his time has come, he is a goner, that boat will get flooded, his ETEC will failed, and he will be shark bait before you know it. *Whatever you do, don't go out on that boat again. Let me tell you something.. Shortpants will get you home, I have no doubt. One day we were heading out toward the race and he asked if I wanted to take the trip through the notch. He said it would get pretty hairy, but we could do it. I told him he was he Captain, I am just along for the ride;) If I don't trust a Captain and his gear, I won't get on the boat in the first place. The boat was awesome, big air, flies straight, lands soft. Tom sees water, conditions, weather, long before it is a part of the equation. *From what I can tell, Harry's boat has never come close to sinking on the trailer, the only problem is that it does have a tendency to collect some leaves on the cover from lack of use. See, it's like Payson/Bolger's old boat "cartopper" [http:// smallboats.com/boats_cartopper.htm]. It's made to row, sail, and motor.. Problem is, it like any other tradeoff boat, does none of them very well. Looking at Hawwys Pawkah, it seems a lazy design. They took a flat old bay boat, added high sides (with no appeal) a deep vee, and a huge honkin' hole in the transom instead of thinking things out and re-tooling for modern advances, and said to the truly stupid, here is an ocean goer, capable even Hawways grandest adventures. Who can forget sailing single handed from Catalina Island, rounding the horn, and the other great deeds our dear wafa has claimed.. This from a guy who can't even paint a wood boat in workmanlike fashion?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You are the only one who says that, even if you do say it with a couple of sockpuppets. I use different techniques, depending on the boat, and it's intended use.. And every last one of my boats has more character than your "Mr. Potato Head" boat... Check the cartopper link above, I used Poly based Petit, with a roll and tip, nice paint job... |
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"HK" wrote in message ... wrote: That's right...it's 25" from the top of the transom notch to the bottom of the boat at the transom. How the hell do you think transom height is measured? What's the distance between the top of the transom notch and the waterline? Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... wrote: That's right...it's 25" from the top of the transom notch to the bottom of the boat at the transom. How the hell do you think transom height is measured? What's the distance between the top of the transom notch and the waterline? Eisboch I posted how transom height on bracketless outboard boats is measured. Ask Tom for that measure you want on his boat...I've not seen a Ranger of his model ever. I think it was only made one year and then dropped. The fact that he had to mount a bracket and then get a longer shaft engine tells me the design was flawed. |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: That's right...it's 25" from the top of the transom notch to the bottom of the boat at the transom. How the hell do you think transom height is measured? What's the distance between the top of the transom notch and the waterline? Eisboch I posted how transom height on bracketless outboard boats is measured. I understand. My question was what is the distance between the top of the notch and the waterline? Eisboch |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: That's right...it's 25" from the top of the transom notch to the bottom of the boat at the transom. How the hell do you think transom height is measured? What's the distance between the top of the transom notch and the waterline? Eisboch I posted how transom height on bracketless outboard boats is measured. I understand. My question was what is the distance between the top of the notch and the waterline? Eisboch I saw some photos that Parker published in their brochure, and there was about 3" between the top of the notch and the waterline. There were links posted in rec.boats so I am sure they can be seen via Google. |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: That's right...it's 25" from the top of the transom notch to the bottom of the boat at the transom. How the hell do you think transom height is measured? What's the distance between the top of the transom notch and the waterline? Eisboch I posted how transom height on bracketless outboard boats is measured. I understand. My question was what is the distance between the top of the notch and the waterline? Eisboch .0 Dunno...never measured that. More than the distance between the notch on Tom's boat and the waterline. More important for salt water use is the height above the waterline at the bow and along the hullsides. Some time ago, I mentioned that Tom's boat would fit inside mine and disappear, except for the top of his console. Now that I know that Ranger has a 20" transom, I am even more sure of it. Even my old SeaPros had 25" transoms. No wonder Tom made such an issue over a low transom. :) |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: That's right...it's 25" from the top of the transom notch to the bottom of the boat at the transom. How the hell do you think transom height is measured? What's the distance between the top of the transom notch and the waterline? Eisboch I posted how transom height on bracketless outboard boats is measured. I understand. My question was what is the distance between the top of the notch and the waterline? Eisboch This might help: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/propwrap.jpg At rest, the round stainless drain below the scuppers on the port side is above the waterline, and in fact, if you stretched a line across the transom from one chine to the other, it would mark the waterline, because the outside edge of the trim tabs are also visible. I'm guessing what is out of the water is about half the height of the transom, or around 12.5 inches at rest. Just a guess. |
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Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: That's right...it's 25" from the top of the transom notch to the bottom of the boat at the transom. How the hell do you think transom height is measured? What's the distance between the top of the transom notch and the waterline? Eisboch I posted how transom height on bracketless outboard boats is measured. I understand. My question was what is the distance between the top of the notch and the waterline? Eisboch This might help: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/propwrap.jpg At rest, the round stainless drain below the scuppers on the port side is above the waterline, and in fact, if you stretched a line across the transom from one chine to the other, it would mark the waterline, because the outside edge of the trim tabs are also visible. I'm guessing what is out of the water is about half the height of the transom, or around 12.5 inches at rest. Just a guess. Here you can see the boat floating on its lines: http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa...l.jsp?boatid=7 Note that the boat is on its chine at the stern. Also notice how high the bow and sides are... Note that the Bay model of the 21 footer is much lower in the water...it is built on an entirely different hull. http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa...l.jsp?boatid=5 |
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... wrote: That's right...it's 25" from the top of the transom notch to the bottom of the boat at the transom. How the hell do you think transom height is measured? What's the distance between the top of the transom notch and the waterline? Eisboch Looking at the pictures, it's about 5 23/32 inch. That boat should have been designed for a 30" shaft. |
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On Sep 7, 11:31*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: That's right...it's 25" from the top of the transom notch to the bottom of the boat at the transom. How the hell do you think transom height is measured? What's the distance between the top of the transom notch and the waterline? Eisboch I posted how transom height on bracketless outboard boats is measured. I understand. *My question was what is the distance between the top of the notch and the waterline? Eisboch- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Either way, with a moderately deep vee, the actual measurement is a little deceptive... |
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On Sep 7, 11:46*am, HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: That's right...it's 25" from the top of the transom notch to the bottom of the boat at the transom. How the hell do you think transom height is measured? What's the distance between the top of the transom notch and the waterline? Eisboch I posted how transom height on bracketless outboard boats is measured. I understand. *My question was what is the distance between the top of the notch and the waterline? Eisboch .0 Dunno...never measured that. More than the distance between the notch on Tom's boat and the waterline. More important for salt water use is the height above the waterline at the bow and along the hullsides. Some time ago, I mentioned that Tom's boat would fit inside mine and disappear, except for the top of his console. Now that I know that Ranger has a 20" transom, I am even more sure of it. Even my old SeaPros had 25" transoms. No wonder Tom made such an issue over a low transom. * :)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You are fudging the facts again. Toms boat has a second transom in front of the motorwell. This avoids the "Mr. Potato Head" option of a waterboard Pawkah settled for.. Besides, Toms boat is sold as a Bay Boat, and is better suited for it's intended use than 'Mr. (YoHo) Potato Head" is for open water;) |
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HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: That's right...it's 25" from the top of the transom notch to the bottom of the boat at the transom. How the hell do you think transom height is measured? What's the distance between the top of the transom notch and the waterline? Eisboch I posted how transom height on bracketless outboard boats is measured. I understand. My question was what is the distance between the top of the notch and the waterline? Eisboch This might help: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/propwrap.jpg At rest, the round stainless drain below the scuppers on the port side is above the waterline, and in fact, if you stretched a line across the transom from one chine to the other, it would mark the waterline, because the outside edge of the trim tabs are also visible. I'm guessing what is out of the water is about half the height of the transom, or around 12.5 inches at rest. Just a guess. Here you can see the boat floating on its lines: http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa...l.jsp?boatid=7 Note that the boat is on its chine at the stern. Also notice how high the bow and sides are... Note that the Bay model of the 21 footer is much lower in the water...it is built on an entirely different hull. http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa...l.jsp?boatid=5 They used to show the transom of the boat. It showed about 3" clearance from the notch to the waterline. Harry said it was because there was a big guy in the back of the boat. Wisely, Parker no longer shows a photo of the transom. |
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On Sep 7, 12:37*pm, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " wrote: HK wrote: HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: That's right...it's 25" from the top of the transom notch to the bottom of the boat at the transom. How the hell do you think transom height is measured? What's the distance between the top of the transom notch and the waterline? Eisboch I posted how transom height on bracketless outboard boats is measured. I understand. *My question was what is the distance between the top of the notch and the waterline? Eisboch This might help: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...0Boats/propwra.... At rest, the round stainless drain below the scuppers on the port side is above the waterline, and in fact, if you stretched a line across the transom from one chine to the other, it would mark the waterline, because the outside edge of the trim tabs are also visible. I'm guessing what is out of the water is about half the height of the transom, or around 12.5 inches at rest. Just a guess. Here you can see the boat floating on its lines: http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa...l.jsp?boatid=7 Note that the boat is on its chine at the stern. Also notice how high the bow and sides are... Note that the Bay model of the 21 footer is much lower in the water...it is built on an entirely different hull. http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa...l.jsp?boatid=5 They used to show the transom of the boat. *It showed about 3" clearance * from the notch to the waterline. *Harry said it was because there was a big guy in the back of the boat. Wisely, Parker no longer shows a photo of the transom. pfffftttt.... |
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On Sep 7, 12:37*pm, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " wrote: HK wrote: HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: That's right...it's 25" from the top of the transom notch to the bottom of the boat at the transom. How the hell do you think transom height is measured? What's the distance between the top of the transom notch and the waterline? Eisboch I posted how transom height on bracketless outboard boats is measured. I understand. *My question was what is the distance between the top of the notch and the waterline? Eisboch This might help: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...0Boats/propwra.... At rest, the round stainless drain below the scuppers on the port side is above the waterline, and in fact, if you stretched a line across the transom from one chine to the other, it would mark the waterline, because the outside edge of the trim tabs are also visible. I'm guessing what is out of the water is about half the height of the transom, or around 12.5 inches at rest. Just a guess. Here you can see the boat floating on its lines: http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa...l.jsp?boatid=7 Note that the boat is on its chine at the stern. Also notice how high the bow and sides are... Note that the Bay model of the 21 footer is much lower in the water...it is built on an entirely different hull. http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa...l.jsp?boatid=5 They used to show the transom of the boat. *It showed about 3" clearance * from the notch to the waterline. *Harry said it was because there was a big guy in the back of the boat. Wisely, Parker no longer shows a photo of the transom. Talk about behind the times, I remember the picture, they were trying to sell to the "buttcrack" crowd...;) You know, weekend warriors without a clue;) |
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On Sep 7, 12:37 pm, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " wrote: HK wrote: HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: That's right...it's 25" from the top of the transom notch to the bottom of the boat at the transom. How the hell do you think transom height is measured? What's the distance between the top of the transom notch and the waterline? Eisboch I posted how transom height on bracketless outboard boats is measured. I understand. My question was what is the distance between the top of the notch and the waterline? Eisboch This might help: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...0Boats/propwra... At rest, the round stainless drain below the scuppers on the port side is above the waterline, and in fact, if you stretched a line across the transom from one chine to the other, it would mark the waterline, because the outside edge of the trim tabs are also visible. I'm guessing what is out of the water is about half the height of the transom, or around 12.5 inches at rest. Just a guess. Here you can see the boat floating on its lines: http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa...l.jsp?boatid=7 Note that the boat is on its chine at the stern. Also notice how high the bow and sides are... Note that the Bay model of the 21 footer is much lower in the water...it is built on an entirely different hull. http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa...l.jsp?boatid=5 They used to show the transom of the boat. It showed about 3" clearance from the notch to the waterline. Harry said it was because there was a big guy in the back of the boat. Wisely, Parker no longer shows a photo of the transom. pfffftttt.... Oh. Reggie. The pussy. How many photos of Reggie's boat have been posted here? I thought you had no use for anonymous pussies like Reggie? |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: That's right...it's 25" from the top of the transom notch to the bottom of the boat at the transom. How the hell do you think transom height is measured? What's the distance between the top of the transom notch and the waterline? Eisboch I posted how transom height on bracketless outboard boats is measured. I understand. My question was what is the distance between the top of the notch and the waterline? Eisboch This might help: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/propwrap.jpg At rest, the round stainless drain below the scuppers on the port side is above the waterline, and in fact, if you stretched a line across the transom from one chine to the other, it would mark the waterline, because the outside edge of the trim tabs are also visible. I'm guessing what is out of the water is about half the height of the transom, or around 12.5 inches at rest. Just a guess. Looking at the pic, and thinking about other similar boats, I would have guessed the waterline at rest would be much higher, like around the vertical centerline of the rectangular drains, plus or minus an inch. If the chines are basically the waterline, it sits high in the water for that type of boat. Eisboch |
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On Sep 7, 1:33*pm, HK wrote:
wrote: On Sep 7, 11:46 am, HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: That's right...it's 25" from the top of the transom notch to the bottom of the boat at the transom. How the hell do you think transom height is measured? What's the distance between the top of the transom notch and the waterline? Eisboch I posted how transom height on bracketless outboard boats is measured. I understand. *My question was what is the distance between the top of the notch and the waterline? Eisboch .0 Dunno...never measured that. More than the distance between the notch on Tom's boat and the waterline. More important for salt water use is the height above the waterline at the bow and along the hullsides. Some time ago, I mentioned that Tom's boat would fit inside mine and disappear, except for the top of his console. Now that I know that Ranger has a 20" transom, I am even more sure of it. Even my old SeaPros had 25" transoms. No wonder Tom made such an issue over a low transom. * :)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You are fudging the facts again. Toms boat has a second transom in front of the motorwell. This avoids the "Mr. Potato Head" option of a waterboard Pawkah settled for.. Besides, Toms boat is sold as a Bay Boat, and is better suited for it's intended use than 'Mr. (YoHo) Potato Head" is for open water;) Idiot. How high is that second transom? High enough to stop a flood of water coming over the stern? Nope. It's about the same height as the actual transom. Your boy Tom spent about a year poking fun at the transom of a boat *far more seaworthy than his. Again, you are fudging the facts, his boat is a BayBoat... Seaworthy enough for it's intended use. His boat is up to date, and not some 50 yo lines, with a deep vee and a huge hole in the transom to make up for it.. Like I said, "Mr. Potato Head"...;) And his boat has a serious design flaw, so serious he had to buy a longer shaft outboard and stick it on a a third party bracket, since in Tom's own words, the 20" shaft outboard did not work properly. |
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: That's right...it's 25" from the top of the transom notch to the bottom of the boat at the transom. How the hell do you think transom height is measured? What's the distance between the top of the transom notch and the waterline? Eisboch I posted how transom height on bracketless outboard boats is measured. I understand. My question was what is the distance between the top of the notch and the waterline? Eisboch This might help: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/propwrap.jpg At rest, the round stainless drain below the scuppers on the port side is above the waterline, and in fact, if you stretched a line across the transom from one chine to the other, it would mark the waterline, because the outside edge of the trim tabs are also visible. I'm guessing what is out of the water is about half the height of the transom, or around 12.5 inches at rest. Just a guess. Looking at the pic, and thinking about other similar boats, I would have guessed the waterline at rest would be much higher, like around the vertical centerline of the rectangular drains, plus or minus an inch. If the chines are basically the waterline, it sits high in the water for that type of boat. Eisboch I posted another photo from the Parker site that shows the chines are the waterline at the stern. As I have stated here many times, it is the largest 21-footer I have ever seen, not in length, but in depth and height. http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa...l.jsp?boatid=7 |
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On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 13:47:43 -0400, hk wrote: Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: That's right...it's 25" from the top of the transom notch to the bottom of the boat at the transom. How the hell do you think transom height is measured? What's the distance between the top of the transom notch and the waterline? Eisboch I posted how transom height on bracketless outboard boats is measured. I understand. My question was what is the distance between the top of the notch and the waterline? Eisboch This might help: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/propwrap.jpg At rest, the round stainless drain below the scuppers on the port side is above the waterline, and in fact, if you stretched a line across the transom from one chine to the other, it would mark the waterline, because the outside edge of the trim tabs are also visible. I'm guessing what is out of the water is about half the height of the transom, or around 12.5 inches at rest. Just a guess. Looking at the pic, and thinking about other similar boats, I would have guessed the waterline at rest would be much higher, like around the vertical centerline of the rectangular drains, plus or minus an inch. If the chines are basically the waterline, it sits high in the water for that type of boat. Eisboch I posted another photo from the Parker site that shows the chines are the waterline at the stern. As I have stated here many times, it is the largest 21-footer I have ever seen, not in length, but in depth and height. http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa...l.jsp?boatid=7 The water had better be dead calm or there'll be a-swamping goin' on. Another idiot. But it's wally...so we already knew that. Where are the photos of your boat, Wally? It seems that those who whine the most about the boats of others are also the least likely to post detailed photos of their boats. You know...you, Reggie, Florida Jim, AtlantaEjaculate (Loogy), even SW Tom won't post a photo of his boat showing that wonderful transom. I've seen photos of Eisboch's boats, seen photos of JimH's boats, even seen photos of Herring's boats. And others. But you pussies who bitch about the boats of others? Cowards all. Let's see the clear, detailed photos of your boats. The ones you currently own. |
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On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 13:12:09 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: these folks to talk to Harry about Stumpy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roFB7bGCAgc That was a sure fire tear jerker. I can't believe some people actually shoot at stumps, putting poisonous lead pellets into one of nature's creations. Shameful. I treasure stumps. Here is my favorite. (In case you've never seen it.) You won't find any bullet holes in my stump. http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...ing1/STUMP.jpg |
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On Sep 7, 2:09*pm, hk wrote:
WaIIy wrote: On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 13:47:43 -0400, hk wrote: Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: That's right...it's 25" from the top of the transom notch to the bottom of the boat at the transom. How the hell do you think transom height is measured? What's the distance between the top of the transom notch and the waterline? Eisboch I posted how transom height on bracketless outboard boats is measured. I understand. *My question was what is the distance between the top of the notch and the waterline? Eisboch This might help: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...0Boats/propwra.... At rest, the round stainless drain below the scuppers on the port side is above the waterline, and in fact, if you stretched a line across the transom from one chine to the other, it would mark the waterline, because the outside edge of the trim tabs are also visible. I'm guessing what is out of the water is about half the height of the transom, or around 12.5 inches at rest. Just a guess. Looking at the pic, and thinking about other similar boats, I would have guessed the waterline at rest would be much higher, like around the vertical centerline of the rectangular drains, plus or minus an inch. If the chines are basically the waterline, it sits high in the water for that type of boat. Eisboch I posted another photo from the Parker site that shows the chines are the waterline at the stern. As I have stated here many times, it is the largest 21-footer I have ever seen, not in length, but in depth and height. http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa...l.jsp?boatid=7 The water had better be dead calm or there'll be a-swamping goin' on. Another idiot. But it's wally...so we already knew that. Where are the photos of your boat, Wally? It seems that those who whine the most about the boats of others are also the least likely to post detailed photos of their boats. You know...you, Reggie, Florida Jim, AtlantaEjaculate (Loogy), even SW Tom won't post a photo of his boat showing that wonderful transom. I've seen photos of Eisboch's boats, seen photos of JimH's boats, even seen photos of Herring's boats. And others. But you pussies who bitch about the boats of others? Cowards all. Let's see the clear, detailed photos of your boats. The ones you currently own.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Post a picture of your lobster boat, Harry. Show us some proof of ownership of such. Pussy indeed. AND a chronic liar. |
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On Sep 7, 1:48*pm, hk wrote:
wrote: On Sep 7, 1:33 pm, HK wrote: wrote: On Sep 7, 11:46 am, HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: That's right...it's 25" from the top of the transom notch to the bottom of the boat at the transom. How the hell do you think transom height is measured? What's the distance between the top of the transom notch and the waterline? Eisboch I posted how transom height on bracketless outboard boats is measured. I understand. *My question was what is the distance between the top of the notch and the waterline? Eisboch .0 Dunno...never measured that. More than the distance between the notch on Tom's boat and the waterline. More important for salt water use is the height above the waterline at the bow and along the hullsides. Some time ago, I mentioned that Tom's boat would fit inside mine and disappear, except for the top of his console. Now that I know that Ranger has a 20" transom, I am even more sure of it. Even my old SeaPros had 25" transoms. No wonder Tom made such an issue over a low transom. * :)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You are fudging the facts again. Toms boat has a second transom in front of the motorwell. This avoids the "Mr. Potato Head" option of a waterboard Pawkah settled for.. Besides, Toms boat is sold as a Bay Boat, and is better suited for it's intended use than 'Mr. (YoHo) Potato Head" is for open water;) Idiot. How high is that second transom? High enough to stop a flood of water coming over the stern? Nope. It's about the same height as the actual transom. Your boy Tom spent about a year poking fun at the transom of a boat *far more seaworthy than his. Again, you are fudging the facts, his boat is a BayBoat... Seaworthy enough for it's intended use. His boat is up to date, and not some 50 yo lines, with a deep vee and a huge hole in the transom to make up for it.. Like I said, "Mr. Potato Head"...;) Go play with your dinghies, idiot. You haven't a clue in this discussion... Learn how to paint, while you are at it. Buy a roll of masking tape. Sure I do, and much more about dinghies too. For instance, why would I use masking tape to seal a workskiff... It's just a tool, not an art project... |
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On Sep 7, 1:48*pm, hk wrote:
wrote: On Sep 7, 1:33 pm, HK wrote: wrote: On Sep 7, 11:46 am, HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: That's right...it's 25" from the top of the transom notch to the bottom of the boat at the transom. How the hell do you think transom height is measured? What's the distance between the top of the transom notch and the waterline? Eisboch I posted how transom height on bracketless outboard boats is measured. I understand. *My question was what is the distance between the top of the notch and the waterline? Eisboch .0 Dunno...never measured that. More than the distance between the notch on Tom's boat and the waterline. More important for salt water use is the height above the waterline at the bow and along the hullsides. Some time ago, I mentioned that Tom's boat would fit inside mine and disappear, except for the top of his console. Now that I know that Ranger has a 20" transom, I am even more sure of it. Even my old SeaPros had 25" transoms. No wonder Tom made such an issue over a low transom. * :)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You are fudging the facts again. Toms boat has a second transom in front of the motorwell. This avoids the "Mr. Potato Head" option of a waterboard Pawkah settled for.. Besides, Toms boat is sold as a Bay Boat, and is better suited for it's intended use than 'Mr. (YoHo) Potato Head" is for open water;) Idiot. How high is that second transom? High enough to stop a flood of water coming over the stern? Nope. It's about the same height as the actual transom. Your boy Tom spent about a year poking fun at the transom of a boat *far more seaworthy than his. Again, you are fudging the facts, his boat is a BayBoat... Seaworthy enough for it's intended use. His boat is up to date, and not some 50 yo lines, with a deep vee and a huge hole in the transom to make up for it.. Like I said, "Mr. Potato Head"...;) Go play with your dinghies, idiot. You haven't a clue in this discussion... Learn how to paint, while you are at it. Buy a roll of masking tape.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Harry claims to roll and tip satin interior wall paint, and then tells someone else to "learn how to paint". |
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On Sep 7, 1:34*pm, HK wrote:
wrote: On Sep 7, 12:37 pm, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " wrote: HK wrote: HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: That's right...it's 25" from the top of the transom notch to the bottom of the boat at the transom. How the hell do you think transom height is measured? What's the distance between the top of the transom notch and the waterline? Eisboch I posted how transom height on bracketless outboard boats is measured. I understand. *My question was what is the distance between the top of the notch and the waterline? Eisboch This might help: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...0Boats/propwra.... At rest, the round stainless drain below the scuppers on the port side is above the waterline, and in fact, if you stretched a line across the transom from one chine to the other, it would mark the waterline, because the outside edge of the trim tabs are also visible. I'm guessing what is out of the water is about half the height of the transom, or around 12.5 inches at rest. Just a guess. Here you can see the boat floating on its lines: http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa...l.jsp?boatid=7 Note that the boat is on its chine at the stern. Also notice how high the bow and sides are... Note that the Bay model of the 21 footer is much lower in the water....it is built on an entirely different hull. http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa...l.jsp?boatid=5 They used to show the transom of the boat. *It showed about 3" clearance * from the notch to the waterline. *Harry said it was because there was a big guy in the back of the boat. Wisely, Parker no longer shows a photo of the transom. pfffftttt.... Oh. Reggie. The pussy. How many photos of Reggie's boat have been posted here? I thought you had no use for anonymous pussies like Reggie?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - About as many as pictures of your alleged 36' Zimmerman like lobster boat? Harry please post your personal information, phone number, address etc. Or are you an anonymous pussy? |
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On Sep 7, 10:28*am, HK wrote:
wrote: On Sep 7, 10:06 am, RPSIII wrote: hk wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: these folks to talk to Harry about Stumpy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roFB7bGCAgc Sorry, Brownie...Stumpy is no more. How's that 20" transom on your Ranger in a following sea...I'll bet it is a real shorts stainer, eh? Does SWS have a big hole in his transom? *If so he really should keep that boat in lakes and only use it on calm days, the same as you do. Now if he has a boat with a "real" 20" transom it will keep out waves, wakes and a following sea, substantially better than your Baby Parker. I really have enjoyed all of your photos of your Baby Parker parked on it's trailer, but the only time you posted a photo of it actually in the water was last year, when you took a photo of it's hour meter. Isn't it time to post an update of your hour meter? Shortpants Ranger is a nice smooth "Bay Boat", that will handle almost anything you throw at it. I have been on the thing skimming over the waves, airborne, it flies nice. The problem with the parker is, it has not kept up with the times. It's plain Jane, and has all of the appeal of a Payson Brick..Those geezers there don't understand that with new technology, a boat can be functional AND look like the lines were drawn this century by someone with other than a t-square.. Not to mention, that huge hole in the ass end.. Guess they couldn't take the time to put the hull on a board and incorporate a body style that suits it's 20 inch transom.. Instead they put high sides around the 20" transom, square and ugly of course, to meet the sides.. Like sticking two different boats together with kindergarten paste... It's a 25" transom at the notch, **** for brains.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Harry, I'll bet it's not. Take a picture with a measuring tape and show us, liar. |
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On Sep 7, 10:43*am, HK wrote:
wrote: On Sep 7, 10:28 am, HK wrote: wrote: On Sep 7, 10:06 am, RPSIII wrote: hk wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: these folks to talk to Harry about Stumpy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roFB7bGCAgc Sorry, Brownie...Stumpy is no more. How's that 20" transom on your Ranger in a following sea...I'll bet it is a real shorts stainer, eh? Does SWS have a big hole in his transom? *If so he really should keep that boat in lakes and only use it on calm days, the same as you do. Now if he has a boat with a "real" 20" transom it will keep out waves, wakes and a following sea, substantially better than your Baby Parker. |
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