Eisboch wrote:
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Eisboch wrote:
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Eisboch wrote:
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That's right...it's 25" from the top of the transom notch to the
bottom of the boat at the transom. How the hell do you think transom
height is measured?
What's the distance between the top of the transom notch and the
waterline?

Eisboch
I posted how transom height on bracketless outboard boats is measured.


I understand. My question was what is the distance between the top of
the notch and the waterline?

Eisboch

This might help:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/propwrap.jpg


At rest, the round stainless drain below the scuppers on the port side is
above the waterline, and in fact, if you stretched a line across the
transom from one chine to the other, it would mark the waterline, because
the outside edge of the trim tabs are also visible.

I'm guessing what is out of the water is about half the height of the
transom, or around 12.5 inches at rest.

Just a guess.

Looking at the pic, and thinking about other similar boats, I would have
guessed the waterline at rest would be much higher, like around the vertical
centerline of the rectangular drains, plus or minus an inch.

If the chines are basically the waterline, it sits high in the water for
that type of boat.


Eisboch



I posted another photo from the Parker site that shows the chines are
the waterline at the stern. As I have stated here many times, it is the
largest 21-footer I have ever seen, not in length, but in depth and height.

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa...l.jsp?boatid=7

wrote:
On Sep 7, 1:33 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 7, 11:46 am, HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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wrote:
That's right...it's 25" from the top of the transom notch to the bottom
of the boat at the transom. How the hell do you think transom height is
measured?
What's the distance between the top of the transom notch and the
waterline?
Eisboch
I posted how transom height on bracketless outboard boats is measured.
I understand. My question was what is the distance between the top of the
notch and the waterline?
Eisboch
.0
Dunno...never measured that. More than the distance between the notch on
Tom's boat and the waterline.
More important for salt water use is the height above the waterline at
the bow and along the hullsides.
Some time ago, I mentioned that Tom's boat would fit inside mine and
disappear, except for the top of his console. Now that I know that
Ranger has a 20" transom, I am even more sure of it. Even my old SeaPros
had 25" transoms.
No wonder Tom made such an issue over a low transom. :)- Hide quoted text -
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You are fudging the facts again. Toms boat has a second transom in
front of the motorwell. This avoids the "Mr. Potato Head" option of a
waterboard Pawkah settled for.. Besides, Toms boat is sold as a Bay
Boat, and is better suited for it's intended use than 'Mr. (YoHo)
Potato Head" is for open water
Idiot. How high is that second transom? High enough to stop a flood of
water coming over the stern? Nope. It's about the same height as the
actual transom.

Your boy Tom spent about a year poking fun at the transom of a boat far
more seaworthy than his.

Again, you are fudging the facts, his boat is a BayBoat... Seaworthy
enough for it's intended use. His boat is up to date, and not some 50
yo lines, with a deep vee and a huge hole in the transom to make up
for it.. Like I said, "Mr. Potato Head"...



Go play with your dinghies, idiot.

You haven't a clue in this discussion...

Learn how to paint, while you are at it. Buy a roll of masking tape.

WaIIy wrote:
On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 13:47:43 -0400, hk wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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wrote:
That's right...it's 25" from the top of the transom notch to the
bottom of the boat at the transom. How the hell do you think transom
height is measured?
What's the distance between the top of the transom notch and the
waterline?

Eisboch
I posted how transom height on bracketless outboard boats is measured.

I understand. My question was what is the distance between the top of
the notch and the waterline?

Eisboch
This might help:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/propwrap.jpg


At rest, the round stainless drain below the scuppers on the port side is
above the waterline, and in fact, if you stretched a line across the
transom from one chine to the other, it would mark the waterline, because
the outside edge of the trim tabs are also visible.

I'm guessing what is out of the water is about half the height of the
transom, or around 12.5 inches at rest.

Just a guess.
Looking at the pic, and thinking about other similar boats, I would have
guessed the waterline at rest would be much higher, like around the vertical
centerline of the rectangular drains, plus or minus an inch.

If the chines are basically the waterline, it sits high in the water for
that type of boat.


Eisboch


I posted another photo from the Parker site that shows the chines are
the waterline at the stern. As I have stated here many times, it is the
largest 21-footer I have ever seen, not in length, but in depth and height.

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa...l.jsp?boatid=7


The water had better be dead calm or there'll be a-swamping goin' on.


Another idiot.

But it's wally...so we already knew that.

Where are the photos of your boat, Wally?

It seems that those who whine the most about the boats of others are
also the least likely to post detailed photos of their boats.

You know...you, Reggie, Florida Jim, AtlantaEjaculate (Loogy), even SW
Tom won't post a photo of his boat showing that wonderful transom.

I've seen photos of Eisboch's boats, seen photos of JimH's boats, even
seen photos of Herring's boats. And others.

But you pussies who bitch about the boats of others?

Cowards all. Let's see the clear, detailed photos of your boats. The
ones you currently own.

On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 13:12:09 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

these folks to talk to Harry about Stumpy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roFB7bGCAgc

That was a sure fire tear jerker.

I can't believe some people actually shoot at stumps, putting poisonous
lead pellets into one of nature's creations. Shameful.

I treasure stumps. Here is my favorite. (In case you've never seen it.) You
won't find any bullet holes in my stump.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...ing1/STUMP.jpg

On Sep 7, 2:09*pm, hk wrote:
WaIIy wrote:
On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 13:47:43 -0400, hk wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
That's right...it's 25" from the top of the transom notch to the
bottom of the boat at the transom. How the hell do you think transom
height is measured?
What's the distance between the top of the transom notch and the
waterline?

Eisboch
I posted how transom height on bracketless outboard boats is measured.

I understand. *My question was what is the distance between the top of
the notch and the waterline?

Eisboch
This might help:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...0Boats/propwra....

At rest, the round stainless drain below the scuppers on the port side is
above the waterline, and in fact, if you stretched a line across the
transom from one chine to the other, it would mark the waterline, because
the outside edge of the trim tabs are also visible.

I'm guessing what is out of the water is about half the height of the
transom, or around 12.5 inches at rest.

Just a guess.
Looking at the pic, and thinking about other similar boats, I would have
guessed the waterline at rest would be much higher, like around the vertical
centerline of the rectangular drains, plus or minus an inch.

If the chines are basically the waterline, it sits high in the water for
that type of boat.

Eisboch

I posted another photo from the Parker site that shows the chines are
the waterline at the stern. As I have stated here many times, it is the
largest 21-footer I have ever seen, not in length, but in depth and height.

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa...l.jsp?boatid=7

The water had better be dead calm or there'll be a-swamping goin' on.

Another idiot.

But it's wally...so we already knew that.

Where are the photos of your boat, Wally?

It seems that those who whine the most about the boats of others are
also the least likely to post detailed photos of their boats.

You know...you, Reggie, Florida Jim, AtlantaEjaculate (Loogy), even SW
Tom won't post a photo of his boat showing that wonderful transom.

I've seen photos of Eisboch's boats, seen photos of JimH's boats, even
seen photos of Herring's boats. And others.

But you pussies who bitch about the boats of others?

Cowards all. Let's see the clear, detailed photos of your boats. The
ones you currently own.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Post a picture of your lobster boat, Harry. Show us some proof of
ownership of such. Pussy indeed. AND a chronic liar.

On Sep 7, 1:48*pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 7, 1:33 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 7, 11:46 am, HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
That's right...it's 25" from the top of the transom notch to the bottom
of the boat at the transom. How the hell do you think transom height is
measured?
What's the distance between the top of the transom notch and the
waterline?
Eisboch
I posted how transom height on bracketless outboard boats is measured.
I understand. *My question was what is the distance between the top of the
notch and the waterline?
Eisboch
.0
Dunno...never measured that. More than the distance between the notch on
Tom's boat and the waterline.
More important for salt water use is the height above the waterline at
the bow and along the hullsides.
Some time ago, I mentioned that Tom's boat would fit inside mine and
disappear, except for the top of his console. Now that I know that
Ranger has a 20" transom, I am even more sure of it. Even my old SeaPros
had 25" transoms.
No wonder Tom made such an issue over a low transom. * :)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You are fudging the facts again. Toms boat has a second transom in
front of the motorwell. This avoids the "Mr. Potato Head" option of a
waterboard Pawkah settled for.. Besides, Toms boat is sold as a Bay
Boat, and is better suited for it's intended use than 'Mr. (YoHo)
Potato Head" is for open water
Idiot. How high is that second transom? High enough to stop a flood of
water coming over the stern? Nope. It's about the same height as the
actual transom.

Your boy Tom spent about a year poking fun at the transom of a boat *far
more seaworthy than his.

Again, you are fudging the facts, his boat is a BayBoat... Seaworthy
enough for it's intended use. His boat is up to date, and not some 50
yo lines, with a deep vee and a huge hole in the transom to make up
for it.. Like I said, "Mr. Potato Head"...

Go play with your dinghies, idiot.

You haven't a clue in this discussion...

Learn how to paint, while you are at it. Buy a roll of masking tape.

Sure I do, and much more about dinghies too. For instance, why would I
use masking tape to seal a workskiff... It's just a tool, not an art
project...

On Sep 7, 1:48*pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 7, 1:33 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 7, 11:46 am, HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
That's right...it's 25" from the top of the transom notch to the bottom
of the boat at the transom. How the hell do you think transom height is
measured?
What's the distance between the top of the transom notch and the
waterline?
Eisboch
I posted how transom height on bracketless outboard boats is measured.
I understand. *My question was what is the distance between the top of the
notch and the waterline?
Eisboch
.0
Dunno...never measured that. More than the distance between the notch on
Tom's boat and the waterline.
More important for salt water use is the height above the waterline at
the bow and along the hullsides.
Some time ago, I mentioned that Tom's boat would fit inside mine and
disappear, except for the top of his console. Now that I know that
Ranger has a 20" transom, I am even more sure of it. Even my old SeaPros
had 25" transoms.
No wonder Tom made such an issue over a low transom. * :)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You are fudging the facts again. Toms boat has a second transom in
front of the motorwell. This avoids the "Mr. Potato Head" option of a
waterboard Pawkah settled for.. Besides, Toms boat is sold as a Bay
Boat, and is better suited for it's intended use than 'Mr. (YoHo)
Potato Head" is for open water
Idiot. How high is that second transom? High enough to stop a flood of
water coming over the stern? Nope. It's about the same height as the
actual transom.

Your boy Tom spent about a year poking fun at the transom of a boat *far
more seaworthy than his.

Again, you are fudging the facts, his boat is a BayBoat... Seaworthy
enough for it's intended use. His boat is up to date, and not some 50
yo lines, with a deep vee and a huge hole in the transom to make up
for it.. Like I said, "Mr. Potato Head"...

Go play with your dinghies, idiot.

You haven't a clue in this discussion...

Learn how to paint, while you are at it. Buy a roll of masking tape.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Harry claims to roll and tip satin interior wall paint, and then tells
someone else to "learn how to paint".

On Sep 7, 1:34*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 7, 12:37 pm, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of
Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:
HK wrote:
HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
That's right...it's 25" from the top of the transom notch to the
bottom of the boat at the transom. How the hell do you think
transom height is measured?
What's the distance between the top of the transom notch and the
waterline?
Eisboch
I posted how transom height on bracketless outboard boats is measured.
I understand. *My question was what is the distance between the top
of the notch and the waterline?
Eisboch
This might help:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...0Boats/propwra....
At rest, the round stainless drain below the scuppers on the port side
is above the waterline, and in fact, if you stretched a line across
the transom from one chine to the other, it would mark the waterline,
because the outside edge of the trim tabs are also visible.
I'm guessing what is out of the water is about half the height of the
transom, or around 12.5 inches at rest.
Just a guess.
Here you can see the boat floating on its lines:
http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa...l.jsp?boatid=7
Note that the boat is on its chine at the stern. Also notice how high
the bow and sides are...
Note that the Bay model of the 21 footer is much lower in the water....it
is built on an entirely different hull.
http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa...l.jsp?boatid=5
They used to show the transom of the boat. *It showed about 3" clearance
* from the notch to the waterline. *Harry said it was because there was
a big guy in the back of the boat.

Wisely, Parker no longer shows a photo of the transom.

pfffftttt....

Oh. Reggie. The pussy. How many photos of Reggie's boat have been posted
here? I thought you had no use for anonymous pussies like Reggie?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

About as many as pictures of your alleged 36' Zimmerman like lobster
boat?
Harry please post your personal information, phone number, address
etc. Or are you an anonymous pussy?

On Sep 7, 10:28*am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 7, 10:06 am, RPSIII wrote:
hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
these folks to talk to Harry about Stumpy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roFB7bGCAgc
Sorry, Brownie...Stumpy is no more.
How's that 20" transom on your Ranger in a following sea...I'll bet it
is a real shorts stainer, eh?
Does SWS have a big hole in his transom? *If so he really should keep
that boat in lakes and only use it on calm days, the same as you do.

Now if he has a boat with a "real" 20" transom it will keep out waves,
wakes and a following sea, substantially better than your Baby Parker.

I really have enjoyed all of your photos of your Baby Parker parked on
it's trailer, but the only time you posted a photo of it actually in the
water was last year, when you took a photo of it's hour meter.

Isn't it time to post an update of your hour meter?

Shortpants Ranger is a nice smooth "Bay Boat", that will handle almost
anything you throw at it. I have been on the thing skimming over the
waves, airborne, it flies nice. The problem with the parker is, it has
not kept up with the times. It's plain Jane, and has all of the appeal
of a Payson Brick..Those geezers there don't understand that with new
technology, a boat can be functional AND look like the lines were
drawn this century by someone with other than a t-square.. Not to
mention, that huge hole in the ass end.. Guess they couldn't take the
time to put the hull on a board and incorporate a body style that
suits it's 20 inch transom.. Instead they put high sides around the
20" transom, square and ugly of course, to meet the sides.. Like
sticking two different boats together with kindergarten paste...

It's a 25" transom at the notch, **** for brains.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Harry, I'll bet it's not. Take a picture with a measuring tape and
show us, liar.

On Sep 7, 10:43*am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 7, 10:28 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 7, 10:06 am, RPSIII wrote:
hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
these folks to talk to Harry about Stumpy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roFB7bGCAgc
Sorry, Brownie...Stumpy is no more.
How's that 20" transom on your Ranger in a following sea...I'll bet it
is a real shorts stainer, eh?
Does SWS have a big hole in his transom? *If so he really should keep
that boat in lakes and only use it on calm days, the same as you do.
Now if he has a boat with a "real" 20" transom it will keep out waves,
wakes and a following sea, substantially better than your Baby Parker.