Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Always wondered what a community organizer does.

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk...mericas-c.html

Now we know.


Some of us knew. Those of you on the right who live lives full of nothing
but self-indulgence. well, we wouldn't expect you to know about the
miserable lives millions of Americans lead. The community organizers and
organizations help them alleviate those miserable conditions.

They're an outgrowth of settlement houses.

But why would any of you wingnut turds know about those?


Maybe because some of us have been busy working, or starting and operating
businesses, creating jobs, paying taxes, raising a family and otherwise
being constructive members of society.

Why do you ask?

Eisboch





Some of my "ancestors" were helped along by the community
organizers/settlement houses when they arrived in this country, and
unlike the Republican wingnuts, remembered that help once they made it
here and did their best to help those immigrants and others who followed
in their footsteps.

My great uncle on my father's side gave away just about all of the
fortune he made here to organizations that provide first-line help to
the needy. He was busy working, starting and operating a business,
paying taxes, and raising a family, and ended up owning a significant
chain of retail stores that operated from Maine to Atlantic City, and
spent his retirement giving away virtually every dollar of his assets.
When I graduated from high school (he never got to go to school),
instead of a fancy graduation gift, I got a very nice pen and pencil
set, an unabridged dictionary, and a letter from a charitable
organization telling me my great uncle had made a substantial donation
in my name. His children told me he did the same thing when they
graduated high school. He paid for their college, of course, but after
that, they were expected to make it on their own.

He was not a self-indulgent wingnut. Neither were his kids.

My mother was a first-generation American, and remembered the generosity
of her poor immigrant parents, even in the worst of times. Her father
ran a butcher shop in Boston. During the Depression, he made sure the
poorest families in his neighborhood didn't go hungry. When he died,
most of his estate went to charities. My mother was by no means wealthy,
but before she died, we worked out a plan that enabled her to make
substantial donations to a number of worthy organizations that help the
poor. Oh...my mother was a Republican, but an old style Republican, not
one of the modern, "I've got mine, so screw you" Republicans.

Over the many years I've been reading this newsgroup. I've not noticed
that very many of its wealthier participants ever mention what they do,
financially or otherwise, to help those who could use a little help.
Perhaps that is because most of those who post here are Republican
wingnuts.

That's why I ask.

hk wrote:


Over the many years I've been reading this newsgroup. I've not noticed
that very many of its wealthier participants ever mention what they do,
financially or otherwise, to help those who could use a little help.
Perhaps that is because most of those who post here are Republican
wingnuts.

That's why I ask.

The only person I have heard brag about what they do to help others is
you, and based upon the facts, it just isn't believable. I really think
if you have to talk about it, you probably aren't doing it. Sort of
like the virgins guys in high school who bragged about how much sex they
got. The smart guys NEVER talked about. The girls were more likely to
enjoy themselves if they didn't think they had to worry about the guy
bragging about it.

To be honest, I don't believe any of the stuff you just said.

"hk" wrote in message
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Over the many years I've been reading this newsgroup. I've not noticed
that very many of its wealthier participants ever mention what they do,
financially or otherwise, to help those who could use a little help.
Perhaps that is because most of those who post here are Republican
wingnuts.

That's why I ask.

I see. So, according to you, the wealthier participants of rec.boats, in
order to not be tagged as a self-indulgent, Republican wingnuts, are
expected to give a full disclosure of volunteer work, charitable
contributions and "causes" to which they are involved?

I think it's none of your business.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

Over the many years I've been reading this newsgroup. I've not noticed
that very many of its wealthier participants ever mention what they do,
financially or otherwise, to help those who could use a little help.
Perhaps that is because most of those who post here are Republican
wingnuts.

That's why I ask.

I see. So, according to you, the wealthier participants of rec.boats, in
order to not be tagged as a self-indulgent, Republican wingnuts, are
expected to give a full disclosure of volunteer work, charitable
contributions and "causes" to which they are involved?

I think it's none of your business.

Eisboch




Full disclosure? Of course not. Not even partial disclosure. My guess is
that most of the Republican wingnuts here are not really involved in any
charitable work that helps the poorest of the poor.

A Southern guy I know well, one of you wingnut types, told me he donates
to his church, and that is his charitable activity. Does his church help
the poor? Nope. It builds buildings, pays high salaries to its
ministers, buys them fancy cars, and sends "missionaries" out to convert
Christians to...Christianity.

I just wonder from time to time what "the rich boys" here do other than
indulge themselves. It would be nice to know that some participants,
especially the wealthier retirees, are "involved" in helping those who
need a little help.

hk wrote:
..

I just wonder from time to time what "the rich boys" here do other than
indulge themselves. It would be nice to know that some participants,
especially the wealthier retirees, are "involved" in helping those who
need a little help.

I donate my time, talents and treasure to numerous charities. Thanks
for asking.

hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

Over the many years I've been reading this newsgroup. I've not
noticed that very many of its wealthier participants ever mention
what they do, financially or otherwise, to help those who could use a
little help. Perhaps that is because most of those who post here are
Republican wingnuts.

That's why I ask.

I see. So, according to you, the wealthier participants of rec.boats,
in order to not be tagged as a self-indulgent, Republican wingnuts,
are expected to give a full disclosure of volunteer work, charitable
contributions and "causes" to which they are involved?

I think it's none of your business.

Eisboch



Full disclosure? Of course not. Not even partial disclosure. My guess is
that most of the Republican wingnuts here are not really involved in any
charitable work that helps the poorest of the poor.

A Southern guy I know well, one of you wingnut types, told me he donates
to his church, and that is his charitable activity. Does his church help
the poor? Nope. It builds buildings, pays high salaries to its
ministers, buys them fancy cars, and sends "missionaries" out to convert
Christians to...Christianity.

I just wonder from time to time what "the rich boys" here do other than
indulge themselves. It would be nice to know that some participants,
especially the wealthier retirees, are "involved" in helping those who
need a little help.

Is your Dr. Dr. wife still spending half of her time doing "pro bono"
work? Have you ever considered actually doing something to help the
less fortunate instead of talking about doing something to help them?

"hk" wrote in message
. ..


A Southern guy I know well, one of you wingnut types, told me he donates
to his church, and that is his charitable activity. Does his church help
the poor? Nope. It builds buildings, pays high salaries to its ministers,
buys them fancy cars, and sends "missionaries" out to convert Christians
to...Christianity.

I just wonder from time to time what "the rich boys" here do other than
indulge themselves. It would be nice to know that some participants,
especially the wealthier retirees, are "involved" in helping those who
need a little help.


I think people should do what their conscience tells them, in the manner
they prefer and to the degree they decide.
I don't think people need to be told how, where, why and how much in order
to pass muster in the eyes of others.

Don't you agree?

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

A Southern guy I know well, one of you wingnut types, told me he donates
to his church, and that is his charitable activity. Does his church help
the poor? Nope. It builds buildings, pays high salaries to its ministers,
buys them fancy cars, and sends "missionaries" out to convert Christians
to...Christianity.

I just wonder from time to time what "the rich boys" here do other than
indulge themselves. It would be nice to know that some participants,
especially the wealthier retirees, are "involved" in helping those who
need a little help.


I think people should do what their conscience tells them, in the manner
they prefer and to the degree they decide.
I don't think people need to be told how, where, why and how much in order
to pass muster in the eyes of others.

Don't you agree?

Eisboch



I agree with the sentence beginning "I think people..." One of my
criteria for "judging" people, though, is what they do to help others.
It's part of the "mustering" process I apply to others.

hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

A Southern guy I know well, one of you wingnut types, told me he
donates to his church, and that is his charitable activity. Does his
church help the poor? Nope. It builds buildings, pays high salaries
to its ministers, buys them fancy cars, and sends "missionaries" out
to convert Christians to...Christianity.

I just wonder from time to time what "the rich boys" here do other
than indulge themselves. It would be nice to know that some
participants, especially the wealthier retirees, are "involved" in
helping those who need a little help.


I think people should do what their conscience tells them, in the
manner they prefer and to the degree they decide.
I don't think people need to be told how, where, why and how much in
order to pass muster in the eyes of others.

Don't you agree?

Eisboch


I agree with the sentence beginning "I think people..." One of my
criteria for "judging" people, though, is what they do to help others.
It's part of the "mustering" process I apply to others.

So what have you ever really done to help others?

"Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " wrote in message
. ..
hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

A Southern guy I know well, one of you wingnut types, told me he
donates to his church, and that is his charitable activity. Does his
church help the poor? Nope. It builds buildings, pays high salaries to
its ministers, buys them fancy cars, and sends "missionaries" out to
convert Christians to...Christianity.

I just wonder from time to time what "the rich boys" here do other than
indulge themselves. It would be nice to know that some participants,
especially the wealthier retirees, are "involved" in helping those who
need a little help.


I think people should do what their conscience tells them, in the manner
they prefer and to the degree they decide.
I don't think people need to be told how, where, why and how much in
order to pass muster in the eyes of others.

Don't you agree?

Eisboch


I agree with the sentence beginning "I think people..." One of my
criteria for "judging" people, though, is what they do to help others.
It's part of the "mustering" process I apply to others.

So what have you ever really done to help others?


He's a Community Organizer Wannabe. (COW)

Eisboch