Organizing communities - now we know...
 

On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 09:31:16 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall,
Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:

hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

A Southern guy I know well, one of you wingnut types, told me he
donates to his church, and that is his charitable activity. Does
his church help the poor? Nope. It builds buildings, pays high
salaries to its ministers, buys them fancy cars, and sends
"missionaries" out to convert Christians to...Christianity.

I just wonder from time to time what "the rich boys" here do other
than indulge themselves. It would be nice to know that some
participants, especially the wealthier retirees, are "involved" in
helping those who need a little help.

I think people should do what their conscience tells them, in the
manner they prefer and to the degree they decide.
I don't think people need to be told how, where, why and how much in
order to pass muster in the eyes of others.

Don't you agree?

Eisboch
I agree with the sentence beginning "I think people..." One of my
criteria for "judging" people, though, is what they do to help
others. It's part of the "mustering" process I apply to others.

I see. But what if I or others help in a manner that is not
acceptable to you, not recognized as help by you or in a manner that
you couldn't. Apparently I become a righty wingnut in your narrow vision.

Eisboch



Helping others is helping others. If by helping others, you mean you
provided honest work to people who needed it, and paid them fairly, and
provided safe working conditions and a fringe package, you'll get no
argument from me.


LOL, as long as you follow those specific directions you qualify to be
respected by Harry. Heaven forbid if you provide work to people who are
actually qualified to do the job.

That was funny. You've got to admit, Harry is trying very hard to be
pleasant to Eisboch!

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 07:58:41 -0400, hk wrote:

Over the many years I've been reading this newsgroup. I've not noticed
that very many of its wealthier participants ever mention what they do,
financially or otherwise, to help those who could use a little help.

Perhaps because it's no ones business and inappropriate in a boating
newsgroup ?


Did I tell you I was just awarded the Mother Teresa Award for
Humanitarian Work among the poor and disadvantaged? My wife and I
contribute 75% of our time to pro bono work, we spend every Tuesday,
Thursday and Saturday cooking and feeding the homeless. I could go on
and tell you all I do, but it would probably bore you and I am such a
great humanitarian it would make everyone feel inadequate.

Oh what the hell, I also employee over 5000 people and I strictly hire
based upon need. We have been kept real business doing inspections and
maintenance work on bridges across the country. Beside that little
boo boo in a bridge in Minneapolis we have had very few errors.

I can not believer WAFA thinks everyone should post their resume of life
achievements and charitable work in rec.boats. Most people I know who
really do contribute their time, talents and treasures to charitable
causes DON"T talk about it.

Based upon WAFA's history of fabricating stories, I would guess he spent
less time doing charitable work as he spent on his Papa Parker. Based
upon his time spent posting in rec.boats, he really doesn't have time to
boat or do charity work.

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Sep 5, 10:48 pm, hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Always wondered what a community organizer does.
http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk...mericas-c.html
Now we know.
Some of us knew. Those of you on the right who live lives full of
nothing but self-indulgence. well, we wouldn't expect you to know about
the miserable lives millions of Americans lead.

I guarantee I know a lot more about it than you have made up or
googled.

I'm sure you know a lot more -first hand- about a miserable life than I
do.


The community organizers
and organizations help them alleviate those miserable conditions.

As long as you fit the mold... or are willing to lie..

Did the community organizations also find it necessary to shove you?


They're an outgrowth of settlement houses.

But why would any of you wingnut turds know about those?

We do, more than you in most cases....



Prove it.


From a post by a community organizer, on what said organizers do: See:

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk...mericas-c.html


Begin Quote:

Specifically, America's community organizers:

reach out and work with communities in various ways.
liaison with, and for, community agencies for service within affected areas.
fight to make a difference.
raise awareness.
deal with community issues.
raise awareness in the community of how we are making differences about
undealt-with issues .
when necessary, refer inquiries to outreach coordinators.
Help coordination agency administrators identify and address outreach
opportunities.
model timetables and conceptualize benchmarks.
issue guidelines for poster contests and interpretive dance festivals.
Gather voter registrations, win valuable prizes.

End Quote

Huh? Does that mean Osamabama is going to save us all?

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

That was funny. You've got to admit, Harry is trying very hard to be
pleasant to Eisboch!

He has to. Eisboch is the last one left that will give harry the time of
day.

--Mike

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 09:31:16 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall,
Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:

hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

A Southern guy I know well, one of you wingnut types, told me he
donates to his church, and that is his charitable activity. Does
his church help the poor? Nope. It builds buildings, pays high
salaries to its ministers, buys them fancy cars, and sends
"missionaries" out to convert Christians to...Christianity.

I just wonder from time to time what "the rich boys" here do other
than indulge themselves. It would be nice to know that some
participants, especially the wealthier retirees, are "involved" in
helping those who need a little help.

I think people should do what their conscience tells them, in the
manner they prefer and to the degree they decide.
I don't think people need to be told how, where, why and how much in
order to pass muster in the eyes of others.

Don't you agree?

Eisboch
I agree with the sentence beginning "I think people..." One of my
criteria for "judging" people, though, is what they do to help
others. It's part of the "mustering" process I apply to others.

I see. But what if I or others help in a manner that is not
acceptable to you, not recognized as help by you or in a manner that
you couldn't. Apparently I become a righty wingnut in your narrow
vision.

Eisboch



Helping others is helping others. If by helping others, you mean you
provided honest work to people who needed it, and paid them fairly, and
provided safe working conditions and a fringe package, you'll get no
argument from me.


LOL, as long as you follow those specific directions you qualify to be
respected by Harry. Heaven forbid if you provide work to people who are
actually qualified to do the job.

That was funny. You've got to admit, Harry is trying very hard to be
pleasant to Eisboch!

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

A Southern guy I know well, one of you wingnut types, told me he
donates to his church, and that is his charitable activity. Does his
church help the poor? Nope. It builds buildings, pays high salaries
to its ministers, buys them fancy cars, and sends "missionaries" out
to convert Christians to...Christianity.

I just wonder from time to time what "the rich boys" here do other
than indulge themselves. It would be nice to know that some
participants, especially the wealthier retirees, are "involved" in
helping those who need a little help.


I think people should do what their conscience tells them, in the
manner they prefer and to the degree they decide.
I don't think people need to be told how, where, why and how much in
order to pass muster in the eyes of others.

Don't you agree?

Eisboch


I agree with the sentence beginning "I think people..." One of my
criteria for "judging" people, though, is what they do to help others.
It's part of the "mustering" process I apply to others.

Is everybody ready to take the Harry Krause social conscience test?

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..


Helping others is helping others. If by helping others, you mean you
provided honest work to people who needed it, and paid them fairly, and
provided safe working conditions and a fringe package, you'll get no
argument from me.


I don't consider that "helping others". It's an employment deal, with
equal consideration and benefits given to both sides.

No, I am thinking of other ways to "help".

Eisboch

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 10:02:33 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 07:58:41 -0400, hk wrote:

Over the many years I've been reading this newsgroup. I've not noticed
that very many of its wealthier participants ever mention what they do,
financially or otherwise, to help those who could use a little help.

Perhaps because it's no ones business and inappropriate in a boating
newsgroup ?

Or anywhere other than Schedule A.

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 10:30:58 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall,
Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 07:58:41 -0400, hk wrote:

Over the many years I've been reading this newsgroup. I've not noticed
that very many of its wealthier participants ever mention what they do,
financially or otherwise, to help those who could use a little help.

Perhaps because it's no ones business and inappropriate in a boating
newsgroup ?


Did I tell you I was just awarded the Mother Teresa Award for
Humanitarian Work among the poor and disadvantaged? My wife and I
contribute 75% of our time to pro bono work, we spend every Tuesday,
Thursday and Saturday cooking and feeding the homeless. I could go on
and tell you all I do, but it would probably bore you and I am such a
great humanitarian it would make everyone feel inadequate.

Oh what the hell, I also employee over 5000 people and I strictly hire
based upon need. We have been kept real business doing inspections and
maintenance work on bridges across the country. Beside that little
boo boo in a bridge in Minneapolis we have had very few errors.

I can not believer WAFA thinks everyone should post their resume of life
achievements and charitable work in rec.boats. Most people I know who
really do contribute their time, talents and treasures to charitable
causes DON"T talk about it.

Based upon WAFA's history of fabricating stories, I would guess he spent
less time doing charitable work as he spent on his Papa Parker. Based
upon his time spent posting in rec.boats, he really doesn't have time to
boat or do charity work.

Just give me the bottom line, how many columns should I add to my
spreadsheet, and what should they be titled.

Damn, I hate keeping track of all this ****!

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 08:47:12 -0700, "Mike" wrote:

That was funny. You've got to admit, Harry is trying very hard to be
pleasant to Eisboch!

He has to. Eisboch is the last one left that will give harry the time of
day.

--Mike
Oh bull****.

Hey Harry, it's 1:00 PM.

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

Helping others is helping others. If by helping others, you mean you
provided honest work to people who needed it, and paid them fairly, and
provided safe working conditions and a fringe package, you'll get no
argument from me.


I don't consider that "helping others". It's an employment deal, with
equal consideration and benefits given to both sides.

No, I am thinking of other ways to "help".

Eisboch



You sure know how to burst Harry's bubble. Scratch Charity, insert hired
hand. He He