Organizing communities - now we know...
 

On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 02:19:27 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Always wondered what a community organizer does.

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk...mericas-c.html

Now we know.

Super!

The cut'n'paste is on it's way around the world. Thanks.

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..


A Southern guy I know well, one of you wingnut types, told me he donates
to his church, and that is his charitable activity. Does his church help
the poor? Nope. It builds buildings, pays high salaries to its ministers,
buys them fancy cars, and sends "missionaries" out to convert Christians
to...Christianity.

I just wonder from time to time what "the rich boys" here do other than
indulge themselves. It would be nice to know that some participants,
especially the wealthier retirees, are "involved" in helping those who
need a little help.


I think people should do what their conscience tells them, in the manner
they prefer and to the degree they decide.
I don't think people need to be told how, where, why and how much in order
to pass muster in the eyes of others.

Don't you agree?

Eisboch

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

A Southern guy I know well, one of you wingnut types, told me he donates
to his church, and that is his charitable activity. Does his church help
the poor? Nope. It builds buildings, pays high salaries to its ministers,
buys them fancy cars, and sends "missionaries" out to convert Christians
to...Christianity.

I just wonder from time to time what "the rich boys" here do other than
indulge themselves. It would be nice to know that some participants,
especially the wealthier retirees, are "involved" in helping those who
need a little help.


I think people should do what their conscience tells them, in the manner
they prefer and to the degree they decide.
I don't think people need to be told how, where, why and how much in order
to pass muster in the eyes of others.

Don't you agree?

Eisboch



I agree with the sentence beginning "I think people..." One of my
criteria for "judging" people, though, is what they do to help others.
It's part of the "mustering" process I apply to others.

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

A Southern guy I know well, one of you wingnut types, told me he
donates to his church, and that is his charitable activity. Does his
church help the poor? Nope. It builds buildings, pays high salaries
to its ministers, buys them fancy cars, and sends "missionaries" out
to convert Christians to...Christianity.

I just wonder from time to time what "the rich boys" here do other
than indulge themselves. It would be nice to know that some
participants, especially the wealthier retirees, are "involved" in
helping those who need a little help.


I think people should do what their conscience tells them, in the
manner they prefer and to the degree they decide.
I don't think people need to be told how, where, why and how much in
order to pass muster in the eyes of others.

Don't you agree?

Eisboch


I agree with the sentence beginning "I think people..." One of my
criteria for "judging" people, though, is what they do to help others.
It's part of the "mustering" process I apply to others.

So what have you ever really done to help others?

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

A Southern guy I know well, one of you wingnut types, told me he donates
to his church, and that is his charitable activity. Does his church help
the poor? Nope. It builds buildings, pays high salaries to its
ministers, buys them fancy cars, and sends "missionaries" out to convert
Christians to...Christianity.

I just wonder from time to time what "the rich boys" here do other than
indulge themselves. It would be nice to know that some participants,
especially the wealthier retirees, are "involved" in helping those who
need a little help.


I think people should do what their conscience tells them, in the manner
they prefer and to the degree they decide.
I don't think people need to be told how, where, why and how much in
order to pass muster in the eyes of others.

Don't you agree?

Eisboch

I agree with the sentence beginning "I think people..." One of my criteria
for "judging" people, though, is what they do to help others. It's part of
the "mustering" process I apply to others.

I see. But what if I or others help in a manner that is not acceptable to
you, not recognized as help by you or in a manner that you couldn't.
Apparently I become a righty wingnut in your narrow vision.

Eisboch

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

"Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " wrote in message
. ..
hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

A Southern guy I know well, one of you wingnut types, told me he
donates to his church, and that is his charitable activity. Does his
church help the poor? Nope. It builds buildings, pays high salaries to
its ministers, buys them fancy cars, and sends "missionaries" out to
convert Christians to...Christianity.

I just wonder from time to time what "the rich boys" here do other than
indulge themselves. It would be nice to know that some participants,
especially the wealthier retirees, are "involved" in helping those who
need a little help.


I think people should do what their conscience tells them, in the manner
they prefer and to the degree they decide.
I don't think people need to be told how, where, why and how much in
order to pass muster in the eyes of others.

Don't you agree?

Eisboch


I agree with the sentence beginning "I think people..." One of my
criteria for "judging" people, though, is what they do to help others.
It's part of the "mustering" process I apply to others.

So what have you ever really done to help others?


He's a Community Organizer Wannabe. (COW)

Eisboch

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

A Southern guy I know well, one of you wingnut types, told me he donates
to his church, and that is his charitable activity. Does his church help
the poor? Nope. It builds buildings, pays high salaries to its
ministers, buys them fancy cars, and sends "missionaries" out to convert
Christians to...Christianity.

I just wonder from time to time what "the rich boys" here do other than
indulge themselves. It would be nice to know that some participants,
especially the wealthier retirees, are "involved" in helping those who
need a little help.

I think people should do what their conscience tells them, in the manner
they prefer and to the degree they decide.
I don't think people need to be told how, where, why and how much in
order to pass muster in the eyes of others.

Don't you agree?

Eisboch
I agree with the sentence beginning "I think people..." One of my criteria
for "judging" people, though, is what they do to help others. It's part of
the "mustering" process I apply to others.

I see. But what if I or others help in a manner that is not acceptable to
you, not recognized as help by you or in a manner that you couldn't.
Apparently I become a righty wingnut in your narrow vision.

Eisboch




Helping others is helping others. If by helping others, you mean you
provided honest work to people who needed it, and paid them fairly, and
provided safe working conditions and a fringe package, you'll get no
argument from me.

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 19:34:53 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Sep 5, 10:19*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Always wondered what a community organizer does.

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk...mericas-c.html

Now we know.

So, they are lobbyists?

Yeah, just as ALL clergy are lobbyists. Even pedophile Catholic
Priests, when they aren't otherwise occupied are lobbyists. So is the
Pope.

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

A Southern guy I know well, one of you wingnut types, told me he
donates to his church, and that is his charitable activity. Does
his church help the poor? Nope. It builds buildings, pays high
salaries to its ministers, buys them fancy cars, and sends
"missionaries" out to convert Christians to...Christianity.

I just wonder from time to time what "the rich boys" here do other
than indulge themselves. It would be nice to know that some
participants, especially the wealthier retirees, are "involved" in
helping those who need a little help.

I think people should do what their conscience tells them, in the
manner they prefer and to the degree they decide.
I don't think people need to be told how, where, why and how much in
order to pass muster in the eyes of others.

Don't you agree?

Eisboch
I agree with the sentence beginning "I think people..." One of my
criteria for "judging" people, though, is what they do to help
others. It's part of the "mustering" process I apply to others.

I see. But what if I or others help in a manner that is not
acceptable to you, not recognized as help by you or in a manner that
you couldn't. Apparently I become a righty wingnut in your narrow vision.

Eisboch



Helping others is helping others. If by helping others, you mean you
provided honest work to people who needed it, and paid them fairly, and
provided safe working conditions and a fringe package, you'll get no
argument from me.


LOL, as long as you follow those specific directions you qualify to be
respected by Harry. Heaven forbid if you provide work to people who are
actually qualified to do the job.

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 07:58:41 -0400, hk wrote:

Over the many years I've been reading this newsgroup. I've not noticed
that very many of its wealthier participants ever mention what they do,
financially or otherwise, to help those who could use a little help.

Perhaps because it's no ones business and inappropriate in a boating
newsgroup ?