Organizing communities - now we know...
 

Always wondered what a community organizer does.

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk...mericas-c.html

Now we know.

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

On Sep 5, 10:19*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Always wondered what a community organizer does.

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk...mericas-c.html

Now we know.

So, they are lobbyists?

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wrote:
On Sep 5, 10:19 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Always wondered what a community organizer does.

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk...mericas-c.html

Now we know.

So, they are lobbyists?


There's no ignorance quite like the ignorance of right-wing nutjobs.

http://www.thewoodlawnorganization.org/


The Woodlawn Organization (T.W.O.) is a not-for-profit community-based
organization that consists of an alliance of block clubs, churches,
tenant councils and other civic and institutional entities organized for
the sole purpose of building a viable and healthy community.

T.W.O. provides many social service programs that ensure that the
citizens of Woodlawn receive a fair chance for better health care,
illness prevention, fair housing and equal employment opportunities.

Founded in 1960, T.W.O.'s mission is to build community through
advocacy, social service programs and community development initiatives.

T.W.O. has more than 350 staff persons and an Executive Board that
consists of the chairman, executive director and board members. The
backgrounds of the executive team are extensive, representing the fields
of real estate, health, education, social service law, urban planning
and policy, finance, administration, employment training and advocacy.

Founded in 1972, the Woodlawn Community Development Corporation (WCDC)
was created to serve as the umbrella for T.W.O.'s real estate
development and management activities. Over the years, WCDC has
developed more than 1,659 units of single family and senior housing in
fourteen different developments. In so doing, WCDC has created site,
phasing, and financial plans, determined unit mixes and worked
extensively with government subsidy programs.

T.W.O./WCDC's programs provide:

* Housing for more than 10,000 citizens
* Daycare and Head Start for more than 200 children
* Child abuse counseling for 70 families
* Alcohol and substance abuse residential treatment for 2500 persons
* Crisis intervention for 150 mentally ill adults
* Welfare to work programs for more than 300 clients
* Comprehensive network of health, education and other human
services focused on infant mortality reduction that reaches more than
3000 teenagers and young adults.

Annually, T.W.O./WCDC touches the lives of more than 20,000 people.


Simliar organizations:

* Greater Boston Interfaith Organization (GBIO) – Boston, Massachusetts
* Interfaith Community Organization (ICO) – Hoboken, New Jersey
* Washington Interfaith Network (WIN) – Washington, DC
* Action in Montgomery (AIM) – Silver Spring, Maryland
* Baltimoreans United for Leadership Development (BUILD) –
Baltimore, Maryland
* People Acting Together in Howard (PATH) – Columbia, Maryland

South

* Durham Congregations, Associations, and Neighborhoods (Durham
CAN) – Durham, North Carolina
* Communities Helping All Neighbors Gain Empowerment (CHANGE) –
Winston-Salem, North Carolina

Midwest

* DuPage United – Glen Ellyn, Illinois
* Lake County United – Libertyville, Illinois
* United Power for Action and Justice – Chicago, Illinois
* Omaha Together One Community (OTOC) – Omaha, Nebraska
* Dane County United – Madison, Wisconsin
* Southeastern Wisconsin Common Ground – Milwaukee, Wisconsin

Southwest

* The Jeremiah Group – New Orleans, Louisiana
* Dallas Area Interfaith (DAI) – Dallas, Texas
* Allied Communities of Tarrant (ACT) – Fort Worth, Texas
* The Metropolitan Organization (TMO) – Houston, Texas
* Arizona Interfaith Organization – Phoenix, Arizona

West

* One LA – IAF – Los Angeles, California

Northwest

* Metropolitan Alliance for the Common Good (MACG) – Portland, Oregon
* Sound Alliance – Tukwila, Washington
* Spokane Alliance – Spokane, Washington

International

* Greater Edmonton Alliance – Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
* Citizen Organizing Foundation (CDF) – London, England, United Kingdom



If you had any brains, Justwait, you'd be in contact with these sorts of
organizations. They'd help you with your medical problems.

But...you don't have any brains.

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Always wondered what a community organizer does.

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk...mericas-c.html

Now we know.



Some of us knew. Those of you on the right who live lives full of
nothing but self-indulgence. well, we wouldn't expect you to know about
the miserable lives millions of Americans lead. The community organizers
and organizations help them alleviate those miserable conditions.

They're an outgrowth of settlement houses.

But why would any of you wingnut turds know about those?

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On Sep 5, 10:48*pm, hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Always wondered what a community organizer does.

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk...mericas-c.html

Now we know.

Some of us knew. Those of you on the right who live lives full of
nothing but self-indulgence. well, we wouldn't expect you to know about
the miserable lives millions of Americans lead.

I guarantee I know a lot more about it than you have made up or
googled.

The community organizers
and organizations help them alleviate those miserable conditions.

As long as you fit the mold... or are willing to lie..

They're an outgrowth of settlement houses.

But why would any of you wingnut turds know about those?

We do, more than you in most cases....

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

wrote:
On Sep 5, 10:48 pm, hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Always wondered what a community organizer does.
http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk...mericas-c.html
Now we know.
Some of us knew. Those of you on the right who live lives full of
nothing but self-indulgence. well, we wouldn't expect you to know about
the miserable lives millions of Americans lead.

I guarantee I know a lot more about it than you have made up or
googled.

I'm sure you know a lot more -first hand- about a miserable life than I do.


The community organizers
and organizations help them alleviate those miserable conditions.

As long as you fit the mold... or are willing to lie..

Did the community organizations also find it necessary to shove you?


They're an outgrowth of settlement houses.

But why would any of you wingnut turds know about those?

We do, more than you in most cases....



Prove it.

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On Sep 5, 10:19*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Always wondered what a community organizer does.

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk...mericas-c.html

Now we know.

That's funny. Thanks for posting.

Hey, but O can organize terrorist community parties at Ayers house.
He's 'da man.

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On Sep 5, 11:25 pm, wrote:
On Sep 5, 10:48 pm, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Always wondered what a community organizer does.

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk...mericas-c.html

Now we know.

Some of us knew. Those of you on the right who live lives full of
nothing but self-indulgence. well, we wouldn't expect you to know about
the miserable lives millions of Americans lead.

I guarantee I know a lot more about it than you have made up or
googled.

The community organizers
and organizations help them alleviate those miserable conditions.

As long as you fit the mold... or are willing to lie..



They're an outgrowth of settlement houses.

But why would any of you wingnut turds know about those?

We do, more than you in most cases....

I represent the Western Hemisphere Alliance of Community Organizers
(WHACO) and we are Outreach Representatives serving various
associations of community organizers. We make grants to various other
Local Offices of Community Organizers (LOCO) such as NARCO (North
American Regional Community Organizers) and SUKO (Southern Union of
Kkkommunity Organizers) and the Democratic Union of Minority Business
Organizers (DUMBO). Please give during our annual fund drive.

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Always wondered what a community organizer does.

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk...mericas-c.html

Now we know.

Harry seems to have done quite well for himself as a full time
professional community organizer. Though,I think the time is right for
him to take the next logical step into politics, his passion. Hopefully
, this blog will be an inspiration for to him to get out of the
organization business and move into the highly lucrative community
service business. It's time to put your highly honed complaining skills
to real meaningful use as a career Democratic, wealth redistributing,
blood sucking politician.

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hk wrote:


We do, more than you in most cases....



Prove it.


Harry, we have all heard it many times, but maybe he forgot, tell him
how your devote half of you and your Dr. Dr.'s time to providing your
services pro bono to the poor. Now I don't know what the poor are going
to do with cut and pasted articles posted in rec.boats, but I am sure
the local authorities would be concerned if they knew a social worker
was providing medical treatment to the poor. What does her employers
think about her spending half of her time pretending to be a doctor when
they pay her a salary to provide social services to the union members?
It really seems that she is stealing from her employer when she pretends
to be a doctor, doesn't it? Ahhhh what the heck, it is for the poor and
children.

You sure proved him wrong didn't you.

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On Sep 5, 9:41*pm, hk wrote:


The Woodlawn Organization (T.W.O.) is a not-for-profit community-based
organization that consists of an alliance of block clubs, churches,
tenant councils and other civic and institutional entities organized for
the sole purpose of building a viable and healthy community.


4-H?

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"hk" wrote in message
. com...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Always wondered what a community organizer does.

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk...mericas-c.html

Now we know.



Some of us knew. Those of you on the right who live lives full of nothing
but self-indulgence. well, we wouldn't expect you to know about the
miserable lives millions of Americans lead. The community organizers and
organizations help them alleviate those miserable conditions.

They're an outgrowth of settlement houses.

But why would any of you wingnut turds know about those?


Maybe because some of us have been busy working, or starting and operating
businesses, creating jobs, paying taxes, raising a family and otherwise
being constructive members of society.

Why do you ask?

Eisboch

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On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 20:25:45 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Sep 5, 10:48*pm, hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Always wondered what a community organizer does.

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk...mericas-c.html

Now we know.

Some of us knew. Those of you on the right who live lives full of
nothing but self-indulgence. well, we wouldn't expect you to know about
the miserable lives millions of Americans lead.

I guarantee I know a lot more about it than you have made up or
googled.

The community organizers
and organizations help them alleviate those miserable conditions.

As long as you fit the mold... or are willing to lie..

They're an outgrowth of settlement houses.

But why would any of you wingnut turds know about those?

We do, more than you in most cases....

I can't figure out why your post here didn't show on Gene's server, but
Harry's post, in which he calls those on the right 'wingnut turds', did.

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. com...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Always wondered what a community organizer does.

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk...mericas-c.html

Now we know.


Some of us knew. Those of you on the right who live lives full of nothing
but self-indulgence. well, we wouldn't expect you to know about the
miserable lives millions of Americans lead. The community organizers and
organizations help them alleviate those miserable conditions.

They're an outgrowth of settlement houses.

But why would any of you wingnut turds know about those?


Maybe because some of us have been busy working, or starting and operating
businesses, creating jobs, paying taxes, raising a family and otherwise
being constructive members of society.

Why do you ask?

Eisboch





Some of my "ancestors" were helped along by the community
organizers/settlement houses when they arrived in this country, and
unlike the Republican wingnuts, remembered that help once they made it
here and did their best to help those immigrants and others who followed
in their footsteps.

My great uncle on my father's side gave away just about all of the
fortune he made here to organizations that provide first-line help to
the needy. He was busy working, starting and operating a business,
paying taxes, and raising a family, and ended up owning a significant
chain of retail stores that operated from Maine to Atlantic City, and
spent his retirement giving away virtually every dollar of his assets.
When I graduated from high school (he never got to go to school),
instead of a fancy graduation gift, I got a very nice pen and pencil
set, an unabridged dictionary, and a letter from a charitable
organization telling me my great uncle had made a substantial donation
in my name. His children told me he did the same thing when they
graduated high school. He paid for their college, of course, but after
that, they were expected to make it on their own.

He was not a self-indulgent wingnut. Neither were his kids.

My mother was a first-generation American, and remembered the generosity
of her poor immigrant parents, even in the worst of times. Her father
ran a butcher shop in Boston. During the Depression, he made sure the
poorest families in his neighborhood didn't go hungry. When he died,
most of his estate went to charities. My mother was by no means wealthy,
but before she died, we worked out a plan that enabled her to make
substantial donations to a number of worthy organizations that help the
poor. Oh...my mother was a Republican, but an old style Republican, not
one of the modern, "I've got mine, so screw you" Republicans.

Over the many years I've been reading this newsgroup. I've not noticed
that very many of its wealthier participants ever mention what they do,
financially or otherwise, to help those who could use a little help.
Perhaps that is because most of those who post here are Republican
wingnuts.

That's why I ask.

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hk wrote:


Over the many years I've been reading this newsgroup. I've not noticed
that very many of its wealthier participants ever mention what they do,
financially or otherwise, to help those who could use a little help.
Perhaps that is because most of those who post here are Republican
wingnuts.

That's why I ask.

The only person I have heard brag about what they do to help others is
you, and based upon the facts, it just isn't believable. I really think
if you have to talk about it, you probably aren't doing it. Sort of
like the virgins guys in high school who bragged about how much sex they
got. The smart guys NEVER talked about. The girls were more likely to
enjoy themselves if they didn't think they had to worry about the guy
bragging about it.

To be honest, I don't believe any of the stuff you just said.

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"hk" wrote in message
. ..


Over the many years I've been reading this newsgroup. I've not noticed
that very many of its wealthier participants ever mention what they do,
financially or otherwise, to help those who could use a little help.
Perhaps that is because most of those who post here are Republican
wingnuts.

That's why I ask.

I see. So, according to you, the wealthier participants of rec.boats, in
order to not be tagged as a self-indulgent, Republican wingnuts, are
expected to give a full disclosure of volunteer work, charitable
contributions and "causes" to which they are involved?

I think it's none of your business.

Eisboch

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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

Over the many years I've been reading this newsgroup. I've not noticed
that very many of its wealthier participants ever mention what they do,
financially or otherwise, to help those who could use a little help.
Perhaps that is because most of those who post here are Republican
wingnuts.

That's why I ask.

I see. So, according to you, the wealthier participants of rec.boats, in
order to not be tagged as a self-indulgent, Republican wingnuts, are
expected to give a full disclosure of volunteer work, charitable
contributions and "causes" to which they are involved?

I think it's none of your business.

Eisboch




Full disclosure? Of course not. Not even partial disclosure. My guess is
that most of the Republican wingnuts here are not really involved in any
charitable work that helps the poorest of the poor.

A Southern guy I know well, one of you wingnut types, told me he donates
to his church, and that is his charitable activity. Does his church help
the poor? Nope. It builds buildings, pays high salaries to its
ministers, buys them fancy cars, and sends "missionaries" out to convert
Christians to...Christianity.

I just wonder from time to time what "the rich boys" here do other than
indulge themselves. It would be nice to know that some participants,
especially the wealthier retirees, are "involved" in helping those who
need a little help.

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hk wrote:
..

I just wonder from time to time what "the rich boys" here do other than
indulge themselves. It would be nice to know that some participants,
especially the wealthier retirees, are "involved" in helping those who
need a little help.

I donate my time, talents and treasure to numerous charities. Thanks
for asking.

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

Over the many years I've been reading this newsgroup. I've not
noticed that very many of its wealthier participants ever mention
what they do, financially or otherwise, to help those who could use a
little help. Perhaps that is because most of those who post here are
Republican wingnuts.

That's why I ask.

I see. So, according to you, the wealthier participants of rec.boats,
in order to not be tagged as a self-indulgent, Republican wingnuts,
are expected to give a full disclosure of volunteer work, charitable
contributions and "causes" to which they are involved?

I think it's none of your business.

Eisboch



Full disclosure? Of course not. Not even partial disclosure. My guess is
that most of the Republican wingnuts here are not really involved in any
charitable work that helps the poorest of the poor.

A Southern guy I know well, one of you wingnut types, told me he donates
to his church, and that is his charitable activity. Does his church help
the poor? Nope. It builds buildings, pays high salaries to its
ministers, buys them fancy cars, and sends "missionaries" out to convert
Christians to...Christianity.

I just wonder from time to time what "the rich boys" here do other than
indulge themselves. It would be nice to know that some participants,
especially the wealthier retirees, are "involved" in helping those who
need a little help.

Is your Dr. Dr. wife still spending half of her time doing "pro bono"
work? Have you ever considered actually doing something to help the
less fortunate instead of talking about doing something to help them?

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On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 06:52:42 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall,
Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:

hk wrote:


We do, more than you in most cases....



Prove it.


Harry, we have all heard it many times, but maybe he forgot, tell him
how your devote half of you and your Dr. Dr.'s time to providing your
services pro bono to the poor. Now I don't know what the poor are going
to do with cut and pasted articles posted in rec.boats, but I am sure
the local authorities would be concerned if they knew a social worker
was providing medical treatment to the poor. What does her employers
think about her spending half of her time pretending to be a doctor when
they pay her a salary to provide social services to the union members?
It really seems that she is stealing from her employer when she pretends
to be a doctor, doesn't it? Ahhhh what the heck, it is for the poor and
children.

You sure proved him wrong didn't you.

Good question. As he doesn't have me filtered, this will give him a chance
to reply.

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On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 02:19:27 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Always wondered what a community organizer does.

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk...mericas-c.html

Now we know.

Super!

The cut'n'paste is on it's way around the world. Thanks.

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"hk" wrote in message
. ..


A Southern guy I know well, one of you wingnut types, told me he donates
to his church, and that is his charitable activity. Does his church help
the poor? Nope. It builds buildings, pays high salaries to its ministers,
buys them fancy cars, and sends "missionaries" out to convert Christians
to...Christianity.

I just wonder from time to time what "the rich boys" here do other than
indulge themselves. It would be nice to know that some participants,
especially the wealthier retirees, are "involved" in helping those who
need a little help.


I think people should do what their conscience tells them, in the manner
they prefer and to the degree they decide.
I don't think people need to be told how, where, why and how much in order
to pass muster in the eyes of others.

Don't you agree?

Eisboch

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

A Southern guy I know well, one of you wingnut types, told me he donates
to his church, and that is his charitable activity. Does his church help
the poor? Nope. It builds buildings, pays high salaries to its ministers,
buys them fancy cars, and sends "missionaries" out to convert Christians
to...Christianity.

I just wonder from time to time what "the rich boys" here do other than
indulge themselves. It would be nice to know that some participants,
especially the wealthier retirees, are "involved" in helping those who
need a little help.


I think people should do what their conscience tells them, in the manner
they prefer and to the degree they decide.
I don't think people need to be told how, where, why and how much in order
to pass muster in the eyes of others.

Don't you agree?

Eisboch



I agree with the sentence beginning "I think people..." One of my
criteria for "judging" people, though, is what they do to help others.
It's part of the "mustering" process I apply to others.

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

A Southern guy I know well, one of you wingnut types, told me he
donates to his church, and that is his charitable activity. Does his
church help the poor? Nope. It builds buildings, pays high salaries
to its ministers, buys them fancy cars, and sends "missionaries" out
to convert Christians to...Christianity.

I just wonder from time to time what "the rich boys" here do other
than indulge themselves. It would be nice to know that some
participants, especially the wealthier retirees, are "involved" in
helping those who need a little help.


I think people should do what their conscience tells them, in the
manner they prefer and to the degree they decide.
I don't think people need to be told how, where, why and how much in
order to pass muster in the eyes of others.

Don't you agree?

Eisboch


I agree with the sentence beginning "I think people..." One of my
criteria for "judging" people, though, is what they do to help others.
It's part of the "mustering" process I apply to others.

So what have you ever really done to help others?

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

A Southern guy I know well, one of you wingnut types, told me he donates
to his church, and that is his charitable activity. Does his church help
the poor? Nope. It builds buildings, pays high salaries to its
ministers, buys them fancy cars, and sends "missionaries" out to convert
Christians to...Christianity.

I just wonder from time to time what "the rich boys" here do other than
indulge themselves. It would be nice to know that some participants,
especially the wealthier retirees, are "involved" in helping those who
need a little help.


I think people should do what their conscience tells them, in the manner
they prefer and to the degree they decide.
I don't think people need to be told how, where, why and how much in
order to pass muster in the eyes of others.

Don't you agree?

Eisboch

I agree with the sentence beginning "I think people..." One of my criteria
for "judging" people, though, is what they do to help others. It's part of
the "mustering" process I apply to others.

I see. But what if I or others help in a manner that is not acceptable to
you, not recognized as help by you or in a manner that you couldn't.
Apparently I become a righty wingnut in your narrow vision.

Eisboch

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"Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " wrote in message
. ..
hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

A Southern guy I know well, one of you wingnut types, told me he
donates to his church, and that is his charitable activity. Does his
church help the poor? Nope. It builds buildings, pays high salaries to
its ministers, buys them fancy cars, and sends "missionaries" out to
convert Christians to...Christianity.

I just wonder from time to time what "the rich boys" here do other than
indulge themselves. It would be nice to know that some participants,
especially the wealthier retirees, are "involved" in helping those who
need a little help.


I think people should do what their conscience tells them, in the manner
they prefer and to the degree they decide.
I don't think people need to be told how, where, why and how much in
order to pass muster in the eyes of others.

Don't you agree?

Eisboch


I agree with the sentence beginning "I think people..." One of my
criteria for "judging" people, though, is what they do to help others.
It's part of the "mustering" process I apply to others.

So what have you ever really done to help others?


He's a Community Organizer Wannabe. (COW)

Eisboch

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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

A Southern guy I know well, one of you wingnut types, told me he donates
to his church, and that is his charitable activity. Does his church help
the poor? Nope. It builds buildings, pays high salaries to its
ministers, buys them fancy cars, and sends "missionaries" out to convert
Christians to...Christianity.

I just wonder from time to time what "the rich boys" here do other than
indulge themselves. It would be nice to know that some participants,
especially the wealthier retirees, are "involved" in helping those who
need a little help.

I think people should do what their conscience tells them, in the manner
they prefer and to the degree they decide.
I don't think people need to be told how, where, why and how much in
order to pass muster in the eyes of others.

Don't you agree?

Eisboch
I agree with the sentence beginning "I think people..." One of my criteria
for "judging" people, though, is what they do to help others. It's part of
the "mustering" process I apply to others.

I see. But what if I or others help in a manner that is not acceptable to
you, not recognized as help by you or in a manner that you couldn't.
Apparently I become a righty wingnut in your narrow vision.

Eisboch




Helping others is helping others. If by helping others, you mean you
provided honest work to people who needed it, and paid them fairly, and
provided safe working conditions and a fringe package, you'll get no
argument from me.

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On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 19:34:53 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Sep 5, 10:19*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Always wondered what a community organizer does.

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk...mericas-c.html

Now we know.

So, they are lobbyists?

Yeah, just as ALL clergy are lobbyists. Even pedophile Catholic
Priests, when they aren't otherwise occupied are lobbyists. So is the
Pope.

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hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

A Southern guy I know well, one of you wingnut types, told me he
donates to his church, and that is his charitable activity. Does
his church help the poor? Nope. It builds buildings, pays high
salaries to its ministers, buys them fancy cars, and sends
"missionaries" out to convert Christians to...Christianity.

I just wonder from time to time what "the rich boys" here do other
than indulge themselves. It would be nice to know that some
participants, especially the wealthier retirees, are "involved" in
helping those who need a little help.

I think people should do what their conscience tells them, in the
manner they prefer and to the degree they decide.
I don't think people need to be told how, where, why and how much in
order to pass muster in the eyes of others.

Don't you agree?

Eisboch
I agree with the sentence beginning "I think people..." One of my
criteria for "judging" people, though, is what they do to help
others. It's part of the "mustering" process I apply to others.

I see. But what if I or others help in a manner that is not
acceptable to you, not recognized as help by you or in a manner that
you couldn't. Apparently I become a righty wingnut in your narrow vision.

Eisboch



Helping others is helping others. If by helping others, you mean you
provided honest work to people who needed it, and paid them fairly, and
provided safe working conditions and a fringe package, you'll get no
argument from me.


LOL, as long as you follow those specific directions you qualify to be
respected by Harry. Heaven forbid if you provide work to people who are
actually qualified to do the job.

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 07:58:41 -0400, hk wrote:

Over the many years I've been reading this newsgroup. I've not noticed
that very many of its wealthier participants ever mention what they do,
financially or otherwise, to help those who could use a little help.

Perhaps because it's no ones business and inappropriate in a boating
newsgroup ?

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 09:31:16 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall,
Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:

hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

A Southern guy I know well, one of you wingnut types, told me he
donates to his church, and that is his charitable activity. Does
his church help the poor? Nope. It builds buildings, pays high
salaries to its ministers, buys them fancy cars, and sends
"missionaries" out to convert Christians to...Christianity.

I just wonder from time to time what "the rich boys" here do other
than indulge themselves. It would be nice to know that some
participants, especially the wealthier retirees, are "involved" in
helping those who need a little help.

I think people should do what their conscience tells them, in the
manner they prefer and to the degree they decide.
I don't think people need to be told how, where, why and how much in
order to pass muster in the eyes of others.

Don't you agree?

Eisboch
I agree with the sentence beginning "I think people..." One of my
criteria for "judging" people, though, is what they do to help
others. It's part of the "mustering" process I apply to others.

I see. But what if I or others help in a manner that is not
acceptable to you, not recognized as help by you or in a manner that
you couldn't. Apparently I become a righty wingnut in your narrow vision.

Eisboch



Helping others is helping others. If by helping others, you mean you
provided honest work to people who needed it, and paid them fairly, and
provided safe working conditions and a fringe package, you'll get no
argument from me.


LOL, as long as you follow those specific directions you qualify to be
respected by Harry. Heaven forbid if you provide work to people who are
actually qualified to do the job.

That was funny. You've got to admit, Harry is trying very hard to be
pleasant to Eisboch!

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 07:58:41 -0400, hk wrote:

Over the many years I've been reading this newsgroup. I've not noticed
that very many of its wealthier participants ever mention what they do,
financially or otherwise, to help those who could use a little help.

Perhaps because it's no ones business and inappropriate in a boating
newsgroup ?


Did I tell you I was just awarded the Mother Teresa Award for
Humanitarian Work among the poor and disadvantaged? My wife and I
contribute 75% of our time to pro bono work, we spend every Tuesday,
Thursday and Saturday cooking and feeding the homeless. I could go on
and tell you all I do, but it would probably bore you and I am such a
great humanitarian it would make everyone feel inadequate.

Oh what the hell, I also employee over 5000 people and I strictly hire
based upon need. We have been kept real business doing inspections and
maintenance work on bridges across the country. Beside that little
boo boo in a bridge in Minneapolis we have had very few errors.

I can not believer WAFA thinks everyone should post their resume of life
achievements and charitable work in rec.boats. Most people I know who
really do contribute their time, talents and treasures to charitable
causes DON"T talk about it.

Based upon WAFA's history of fabricating stories, I would guess he spent
less time doing charitable work as he spent on his Papa Parker. Based
upon his time spent posting in rec.boats, he really doesn't have time to
boat or do charity work.

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Sep 5, 10:48 pm, hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Always wondered what a community organizer does.
http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk...mericas-c.html
Now we know.
Some of us knew. Those of you on the right who live lives full of
nothing but self-indulgence. well, we wouldn't expect you to know about
the miserable lives millions of Americans lead.

I guarantee I know a lot more about it than you have made up or
googled.

I'm sure you know a lot more -first hand- about a miserable life than I
do.


The community organizers
and organizations help them alleviate those miserable conditions.

As long as you fit the mold... or are willing to lie..

Did the community organizations also find it necessary to shove you?


They're an outgrowth of settlement houses.

But why would any of you wingnut turds know about those?

We do, more than you in most cases....



Prove it.


From a post by a community organizer, on what said organizers do: See:

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk...mericas-c.html


Begin Quote:

Specifically, America's community organizers:

reach out and work with communities in various ways.
liaison with, and for, community agencies for service within affected areas.
fight to make a difference.
raise awareness.
deal with community issues.
raise awareness in the community of how we are making differences about
undealt-with issues .
when necessary, refer inquiries to outreach coordinators.
Help coordination agency administrators identify and address outreach
opportunities.
model timetables and conceptualize benchmarks.
issue guidelines for poster contests and interpretive dance festivals.
Gather voter registrations, win valuable prizes.

End Quote

Huh? Does that mean Osamabama is going to save us all?

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

That was funny. You've got to admit, Harry is trying very hard to be
pleasant to Eisboch!

He has to. Eisboch is the last one left that will give harry the time of
day.

--Mike

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 09:31:16 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall,
Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:

hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

A Southern guy I know well, one of you wingnut types, told me he
donates to his church, and that is his charitable activity. Does
his church help the poor? Nope. It builds buildings, pays high
salaries to its ministers, buys them fancy cars, and sends
"missionaries" out to convert Christians to...Christianity.

I just wonder from time to time what "the rich boys" here do other
than indulge themselves. It would be nice to know that some
participants, especially the wealthier retirees, are "involved" in
helping those who need a little help.

I think people should do what their conscience tells them, in the
manner they prefer and to the degree they decide.
I don't think people need to be told how, where, why and how much in
order to pass muster in the eyes of others.

Don't you agree?

Eisboch
I agree with the sentence beginning "I think people..." One of my
criteria for "judging" people, though, is what they do to help
others. It's part of the "mustering" process I apply to others.

I see. But what if I or others help in a manner that is not
acceptable to you, not recognized as help by you or in a manner that
you couldn't. Apparently I become a righty wingnut in your narrow
vision.

Eisboch



Helping others is helping others. If by helping others, you mean you
provided honest work to people who needed it, and paid them fairly, and
provided safe working conditions and a fringe package, you'll get no
argument from me.


LOL, as long as you follow those specific directions you qualify to be
respected by Harry. Heaven forbid if you provide work to people who are
actually qualified to do the job.

That was funny. You've got to admit, Harry is trying very hard to be
pleasant to Eisboch!

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

A Southern guy I know well, one of you wingnut types, told me he
donates to his church, and that is his charitable activity. Does his
church help the poor? Nope. It builds buildings, pays high salaries
to its ministers, buys them fancy cars, and sends "missionaries" out
to convert Christians to...Christianity.

I just wonder from time to time what "the rich boys" here do other
than indulge themselves. It would be nice to know that some
participants, especially the wealthier retirees, are "involved" in
helping those who need a little help.


I think people should do what their conscience tells them, in the
manner they prefer and to the degree they decide.
I don't think people need to be told how, where, why and how much in
order to pass muster in the eyes of others.

Don't you agree?

Eisboch


I agree with the sentence beginning "I think people..." One of my
criteria for "judging" people, though, is what they do to help others.
It's part of the "mustering" process I apply to others.

Is everybody ready to take the Harry Krause social conscience test?

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..


Helping others is helping others. If by helping others, you mean you
provided honest work to people who needed it, and paid them fairly, and
provided safe working conditions and a fringe package, you'll get no
argument from me.


I don't consider that "helping others". It's an employment deal, with
equal consideration and benefits given to both sides.

No, I am thinking of other ways to "help".

Eisboch

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 10:02:33 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 07:58:41 -0400, hk wrote:

Over the many years I've been reading this newsgroup. I've not noticed
that very many of its wealthier participants ever mention what they do,
financially or otherwise, to help those who could use a little help.

Perhaps because it's no ones business and inappropriate in a boating
newsgroup ?

Or anywhere other than Schedule A.

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 10:30:58 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall,
Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. "
wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 07:58:41 -0400, hk wrote:

Over the many years I've been reading this newsgroup. I've not noticed
that very many of its wealthier participants ever mention what they do,
financially or otherwise, to help those who could use a little help.

Perhaps because it's no ones business and inappropriate in a boating
newsgroup ?


Did I tell you I was just awarded the Mother Teresa Award for
Humanitarian Work among the poor and disadvantaged? My wife and I
contribute 75% of our time to pro bono work, we spend every Tuesday,
Thursday and Saturday cooking and feeding the homeless. I could go on
and tell you all I do, but it would probably bore you and I am such a
great humanitarian it would make everyone feel inadequate.

Oh what the hell, I also employee over 5000 people and I strictly hire
based upon need. We have been kept real business doing inspections and
maintenance work on bridges across the country. Beside that little
boo boo in a bridge in Minneapolis we have had very few errors.

I can not believer WAFA thinks everyone should post their resume of life
achievements and charitable work in rec.boats. Most people I know who
really do contribute their time, talents and treasures to charitable
causes DON"T talk about it.

Based upon WAFA's history of fabricating stories, I would guess he spent
less time doing charitable work as he spent on his Papa Parker. Based
upon his time spent posting in rec.boats, he really doesn't have time to
boat or do charity work.

Just give me the bottom line, how many columns should I add to my
spreadsheet, and what should they be titled.

Damn, I hate keeping track of all this ****!

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 08:47:12 -0700, "Mike" wrote:

That was funny. You've got to admit, Harry is trying very hard to be
pleasant to Eisboch!

He has to. Eisboch is the last one left that will give harry the time of
day.

--Mike
Oh bull****.

Hey Harry, it's 1:00 PM.

Organizing communities - now we know...
 

Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

Helping others is helping others. If by helping others, you mean you
provided honest work to people who needed it, and paid them fairly, and
provided safe working conditions and a fringe package, you'll get no
argument from me.


I don't consider that "helping others". It's an employment deal, with
equal consideration and benefits given to both sides.

No, I am thinking of other ways to "help".

Eisboch



You sure know how to burst Harry's bubble. Scratch Charity, insert hired
hand. He He