By Richard Gizbert

I'm going to break a self imposed rule, the one that says always allow
breaking news to settle before deciding what it actually means.

Allow me to predict that, within the next week or so, Sarah Palin will
withdraw from the Republican ticket.

She will become the new Thomas Eagleton.

Eagleton was the former US senator from Missouri who was briefly part of
George McGovern's ticket in 1972, before it was revealed that he had
undergone electro-shock therapy treatments to deal with "physical and
nervous" exhaustion. After that news broke, Eagleton quit the ticket and
was replaced by Sargent Shriver. Nixon won in a walk.

When she pulls out, Ms. Palin will say that she was wrong to accept John
McCain's offer. She will tell Alaskans and the rest of America that her
17 year old daughter, Bristol, five months pregnant, needs her mother
right now.

None of that will be untrue. But there are other factors that will
undoubtedly affect Palin's decision.

It is becoming increasingly clear that Sarah Palin is a victim of the
failure of the McCain campaign to properly vet her as a candidate.

If Palin didn't know that last Friday, she knows it now.

Had McCain's people done the diligence, they would have known her home
state's newspapers don't just question Palin's qualifications for the
job, they deride them.

They would have realized that the troopergate story is real and will
prove damaging. When the drip-drip-dripping finally stops, Madame
Governor will have to own up to the emails and admit that, not only did
she improperly interfere in the investigation of an ex-brother-in law,
but she failed to come clean about it more than once.

Any investigators worth their salt would have concluded that Palin
actually supported Alaska's bridge to nowhere, before she opposed it.
That damages her image as McCain's reformer/soulmate, which is critical
to her appeal.

And they would have heard that sound file of the incident with the talk
radio hosts, in which Palin laughs when a political opponent of hers, a
recovering cancer patient, was called a bitch and a cancer. That
tarnishes the gloss even further.

But what hurts Palin's candidacy more than anything else is the breaking
news about her daughter.

It hurts because Sarah Palin was a bone John McCain threw at the
Republican right.

He had problems with evangelicals and thought she could help him there.
And, for a news cycle or two, it worked.

But what are the evangelicals thinking now? A teen pregnancy for a
prospective vice-president's unmarried daughter?

Even though some will say the decision to keep the baby is consistent
with their beliefs on abortion, it's still not the news they want to hear.

Evangelicals are socially conservative. How many of them are calling
members of their congregations today, asking whether this kind of thing
would have happened had Sarah Palin given up her career to be there for
her children?

The Bristol story won't necessarily damage Republican prospects with The
Hillary Girls, who McCain also tried to woo by picking Palin.

But only the most gender-militant, Obama-hating Hilary Girl would have
considered voting for this republican ticket anyway. Palin's opposition
to abortion, even in cases of rape and incest, was always going to be a
deal-breaker there.

Add it up, because that's what they're doing at the McCain headquarters
right now: Palin's lack of qualifications + McCain's age and history of
skin cancer + troopergate + the bridge + the radio incident + the
unmarried, pregnant teenage daughter.

And you know there's more coming, because the real vetting has just begun.

Then consider: what does Sarah Palin, the woman we know today, as
opposed to the one McCain introduced last Friday, actually bring to this
ticket?

To me, someone who's old enough to remember the '72 campaign, it's
looking more and more like Thomas Eagleton: The Sequel.

It's looking more and more like McCain/Pawlenty, or McCain/Romney '08.

On Sep 1, 5:10 pm, hk wrote:
By Richard Gizbert

I'm going to break a self imposed rule, the one that says always allow
breaking news to settle before deciding what it actually means.

Allow me to predict that, within the next week or so, Sarah Palin will
withdraw from the Republican ticket.

She will become the new Thomas Eagleton.

Eagleton was the former US senator from Missouri who was briefly part of
George McGovern's ticket in 1972, before it was revealed that he had
undergone electro-shock therapy treatments to deal with "physical and
nervous" exhaustion. After that news broke, Eagleton quit the ticket and
was replaced by Sargent Shriver. Nixon won in a walk.

When she pulls out, Ms. Palin will say that she was wrong to accept John
McCain's offer. She will tell Alaskans and the rest of America that her
17 year old daughter, Bristol, five months pregnant, needs her mother
right now.

None of that will be untrue. But there are other factors that will
undoubtedly affect Palin's decision.

It is becoming increasingly clear that Sarah Palin is a victim of the
failure of the McCain campaign to properly vet her as a candidate.

If Palin didn't know that last Friday, she knows it now.

Had McCain's people done the diligence, they would have known her home
state's newspapers don't just question Palin's qualifications for the
job, they deride them.

They would have realized that the troopergate story is real and will
prove damaging. When the drip-drip-dripping finally stops, Madame
Governor will have to own up to the emails and admit that, not only did
she improperly interfere in the investigation of an ex-brother-in law,
but she failed to come clean about it more than once.

Any investigators worth their salt would have concluded that Palin
actually supported Alaska's bridge to nowhere, before she opposed it.
That damages her image as McCain's reformer/soulmate, which is critical
to her appeal.

And they would have heard that sound file of the incident with the talk
radio hosts, in which Palin laughs when a political opponent of hers, a
recovering cancer patient, was called a bitch and a cancer. That
tarnishes the gloss even further.

But what hurts Palin's candidacy more than anything else is the breaking
news about her daughter.

It hurts because Sarah Palin was a bone John McCain threw at the
Republican right.

He had problems with evangelicals and thought she could help him there.
And, for a news cycle or two, it worked.

But what are the evangelicals thinking now? A teen pregnancy for a
prospective vice-president's unmarried daughter?

Even though some will say the decision to keep the baby is consistent
with their beliefs on abortion, it's still not the news they want to hear.

Evangelicals are socially conservative. How many of them are calling
members of their congregations today, asking whether this kind of thing
would have happened had Sarah Palin given up her career to be there for
her children?

The Bristol story won't necessarily damage Republican prospects with The
Hillary Girls, who McCain also tried to woo by picking Palin.

But only the most gender-militant, Obama-hating Hilary Girl would have
considered voting for this republican ticket anyway. Palin's opposition
to abortion, even in cases of rape and incest, was always going to be a
deal-breaker there.

Add it up, because that's what they're doing at the McCain headquarters
right now: Palin's lack of qualifications + McCain's age and history of
skin cancer + troopergate + the bridge + the radio incident + the
unmarried, pregnant teenage daughter.

And you know there's more coming, because the real vetting has just begun.

Then consider: what does Sarah Palin, the woman we know today, as
opposed to the one McCain introduced last Friday, actually bring to this
ticket?

To me, someone who's old enough to remember the '72 campaign, it's
looking more and more like Thomas Eagleton: The Sequel.

It's looking more and more like McCain/Pawlenty, or McCain/Romney '08.

Harry: I'll take that bet. What do you propose?

wrote:
On Sep 1, 5:10 pm, hk wrote:
By Richard Gizbert

I'm going to break a self imposed rule, the one that says always allow
breaking news to settle before deciding what it actually means.

Allow me to predict that, within the next week or so, Sarah Palin will
withdraw from the Republican ticket.

She will become the new Thomas Eagleton.

Eagleton was the former US senator from Missouri who was briefly part of
George McGovern's ticket in 1972, before it was revealed that he had
undergone electro-shock therapy treatments to deal with "physical and
nervous" exhaustion. After that news broke, Eagleton quit the ticket and
was replaced by Sargent Shriver. Nixon won in a walk.

When she pulls out, Ms. Palin will say that she was wrong to accept John
McCain's offer. She will tell Alaskans and the rest of America that her
17 year old daughter, Bristol, five months pregnant, needs her mother
right now.

None of that will be untrue. But there are other factors that will
undoubtedly affect Palin's decision.

It is becoming increasingly clear that Sarah Palin is a victim of the
failure of the McCain campaign to properly vet her as a candidate.

If Palin didn't know that last Friday, she knows it now.

Had McCain's people done the diligence, they would have known her home
state's newspapers don't just question Palin's qualifications for the
job, they deride them.

They would have realized that the troopergate story is real and will
prove damaging. When the drip-drip-dripping finally stops, Madame
Governor will have to own up to the emails and admit that, not only did
she improperly interfere in the investigation of an ex-brother-in law,
but she failed to come clean about it more than once.

Any investigators worth their salt would have concluded that Palin
actually supported Alaska's bridge to nowhere, before she opposed it.
That damages her image as McCain's reformer/soulmate, which is critical
to her appeal.

And they would have heard that sound file of the incident with the talk
radio hosts, in which Palin laughs when a political opponent of hers, a
recovering cancer patient, was called a bitch and a cancer. That
tarnishes the gloss even further.

But what hurts Palin's candidacy more than anything else is the breaking
news about her daughter.

It hurts because Sarah Palin was a bone John McCain threw at the
Republican right.

He had problems with evangelicals and thought she could help him there.
And, for a news cycle or two, it worked.

But what are the evangelicals thinking now? A teen pregnancy for a
prospective vice-president's unmarried daughter?

Even though some will say the decision to keep the baby is consistent
with their beliefs on abortion, it's still not the news they want to hear.

Evangelicals are socially conservative. How many of them are calling
members of their congregations today, asking whether this kind of thing
would have happened had Sarah Palin given up her career to be there for
her children?

The Bristol story won't necessarily damage Republican prospects with The
Hillary Girls, who McCain also tried to woo by picking Palin.

But only the most gender-militant, Obama-hating Hilary Girl would have
considered voting for this republican ticket anyway. Palin's opposition
to abortion, even in cases of rape and incest, was always going to be a
deal-breaker there.

Add it up, because that's what they're doing at the McCain headquarters
right now: Palin's lack of qualifications + McCain's age and history of
skin cancer + troopergate + the bridge + the radio incident + the
unmarried, pregnant teenage daughter.

And you know there's more coming, because the real vetting has just begun.

Then consider: what does Sarah Palin, the woman we know today, as
opposed to the one McCain introduced last Friday, actually bring to this
ticket?

To me, someone who's old enough to remember the '72 campaign, it's
looking more and more like Thomas Eagleton: The Sequel.

It's looking more and more like McCain/Pawlenty, or McCain/Romney '08.

Harry: I'll take that bet. What do you propose?


The winner gets to crap on Reggie's head?

"hk" wrote in message
...
By Richard Gizbert

I'm going to break a self imposed rule, the one that says always allow
breaking news to settle before deciding what it actually means.

Allow me to predict that, within the next week or so, Sarah Palin will
withdraw from the Republican ticket.

She will become the new Thomas Eagleton.

I think that it would be more damaging to take her off than to live with the
fall out. She was not a very good pick even if you discount the stories
that are coming out. Generally over the years I have liked McCain (though I
will be voting for Obama) but this selection for vp disappoints me.

On Sep 1, 6:08*pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 1, 5:10 pm, hk wrote:
By Richard Gizbert

I'm going to break a self imposed rule, the one that says always allow
breaking news to settle before deciding what it actually means.

Allow me to predict that, within the next week or so, Sarah Palin will
withdraw from the Republican ticket.

She will become the new Thomas Eagleton.

Eagleton was the former US senator from Missouri who was briefly part of
George McGovern's ticket in 1972, before it was revealed that he had
undergone electro-shock therapy treatments to deal with "physical and
nervous" exhaustion. After that news broke, Eagleton quit the ticket and
was replaced by Sargent Shriver. Nixon won in a walk.

When she pulls out, Ms. Palin will say that she was wrong to accept John
McCain's offer. She will tell Alaskans and the rest of America that her
17 year old daughter, Bristol, five months pregnant, needs her mother
right now.

None of that will be untrue. But there are other factors that will
undoubtedly affect Palin's decision.

It is becoming increasingly clear that Sarah Palin is a victim of the
failure of the McCain campaign to properly vet her as a candidate.

If Palin didn't know that last Friday, she knows it now.

Had McCain's people done the diligence, they would have known her home
state's newspapers don't just question Palin's qualifications for the
job, they deride them.

They would have realized that the troopergate story is real and will
prove damaging. When the drip-drip-dripping finally stops, Madame
Governor will have to own up to the emails and admit that, not only did
she improperly interfere in the investigation of an ex-brother-in law,
but she failed to come clean about it more than once.

Any investigators worth their salt would have concluded that Palin
actually supported Alaska's bridge to nowhere, before she opposed it.
That damages her image as McCain's reformer/soulmate, which is critical
to her appeal.

And they would have heard that sound file of the incident with the talk
radio hosts, in which Palin laughs when a political opponent of hers, a
recovering cancer patient, was called a bitch and a cancer. That
tarnishes the gloss even further.

But what hurts Palin's candidacy more than anything else is the breaking
news about her daughter.

It hurts because Sarah Palin was a bone John McCain threw at the
Republican right.

He had problems with evangelicals and thought she could help him there..
And, for a news cycle or two, it worked.

But what are the evangelicals thinking now? A teen pregnancy for a
prospective vice-president's unmarried daughter?

Even though some will say the decision to keep the baby is consistent
with their beliefs on abortion, it's still not the news they want to hear.

Evangelicals are socially conservative. How many of them are calling
members of their congregations today, asking whether this kind of thing
would have happened had Sarah Palin given up her career to be there for
her children?

The Bristol story won't necessarily damage Republican prospects with The
Hillary Girls, who McCain also tried to woo by picking Palin.

But only the most gender-militant, Obama-hating Hilary Girl would have
considered voting for this republican ticket anyway. Palin's opposition
to abortion, even in cases of rape and incest, was always going to be a
deal-breaker there.

Add it up, because that's what they're doing at the McCain headquarters
right now: Palin's lack of qualifications + McCain's age and history of
skin cancer + troopergate + the bridge + the radio incident + the
unmarried, pregnant teenage daughter.

And you know there's more coming, because the real vetting has just begun.

Then consider: what does Sarah Palin, the woman we know today, as
opposed to the one McCain introduced last Friday, actually bring to this
ticket?

To me, someone who's old enough to remember the '72 campaign, it's
looking more and more like Thomas Eagleton: The Sequel.

It's looking more and more like McCain/Pawlenty, or McCain/Romney '08.

Harry: *I'll take that bet. *What do you propose?

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wow, that's VERY refined and cultured.

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On Sep 2, 6:20*am, wrote:
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Maybe Palin may reconsider and pull herself out. McCain doesn't have
to do anything. Pawlenty makes up most of what they'd lose with
Palin, except that he's not a woman. In addition, he's been Governor
longer, has a record of not raising taxes, and is in what McCain
considers a swing state.

wrote:
On Sep 2, 6:20 am, wrote:
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Maybe Palin may reconsider and pull herself out. McCain doesn't have
to do anything. Pawlenty makes up most of what they'd lose with
Palin, except that he's not a woman. In addition, he's been Governor
longer, has a record of not raising taxes, and is in what McCain
considers a swing state.

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Dreams vs common sense

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