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JimH[_2_] August 30th 08 01:03 AM

McCain's Age...
 
On Aug 29, 8:00*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message

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"JimH" wrote in message
....
On Aug 29, 7:24 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message


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On Aug 29, 6:50 pm, hk wrote:


...and health are now issues *on* the table.


Guaranteed.


A 72-year-old man who has had four bouts with cancer...


http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/05/23...ealth.records/


And?


Means absolutely nothing. He could also get hit by one of his wife's beer
trucks the day after the inauguration.


The POTUS has a responsibility to select a qualified VP, ready to step in
should the need arise.
McCain didn't do that. He selected someone who might make him more
electable, that's all.


I admire the achievements to date of Sarah Whateverhernameis .... but I
am
very disappointed in the reasoning of McCain in selecting her. She simply
is not qualified.


Eisboch


And Obama is more qualified..........how?


Did you know of Obama and his experience and experience before
speculation of his campaign for POTUS started?


BTW: **She* is not at the top of the ticket.
====================================


If I may jump in, it's not that Obama is qualified, it that Ms. Palin is
not.


Yup. *Thank you.
Obama has shored up his "unqualified" status in the selection of Biden.
McCain .... * what the hell was he thinking??!!!!!

Eisboch


What was he thinking? How about old time stuck in the mud politics.

Innovative? Change?

Nope.......same old same old.

Eisboch August 30th 08 01:07 AM

McCain's Age...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:24:04 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



I admire the achievements to date of Sarah Whateverhernameis .... but I
am
very disappointed in the reasoning of McCain in selecting her. She
simply
is not qualified.




Who are you and what have you done with Eisboch? :)



LOL!

Present and accounted for.
I guess I just have a strange, unique view of what the POTUS is and what
he/she have as responsibilities.

McCain could have built a very respectable and strong team. He chose
rather to enhance his electibility.
It would have been ok if the VP selection had been someone with experience.
But, he chose a complete newbie, trying to work his "maverick" reputation.

Sorry. The stakes are too high for those cute games.
There's only one other choice, and the team is much stronger, IMO.

Eisboch



Eisboch August 30th 08 01:11 AM

McCain's Age...
 

"JimH" wrote in message
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OK. So where is Obama steering the ship and how will he do it?

Do you know where McCain is steering his ship?

--------------------------------

Sorry. I've answered your questions as to why I feel as I do.
Not interested in getting into subjective issues.

Eisboch



JimH[_5_] August 30th 08 01:13 AM

McCain's Age...
 
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:47:16 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"JimH" wrote in message
...
On Aug 29, 7:24 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message

...
On Aug 29, 6:50 pm, hk wrote:

...and health are now issues *on* the table.


Guaranteed.


A 72-year-old man who has had four bouts with cancer...


http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/05/23...ealth.records/

And?

Means absolutely nothing. He could also get hit by one of his wife's beer
trucks the day after the inauguration.

The POTUS has a responsibility to select a qualified VP, ready to step in
should the need arise.
McCain didn't do that. He selected someone who might make him more
electable, that's all.

I admire the achievements to date of Sarah Whateverhernameis .... but I am
very disappointed in the reasoning of McCain in selecting her. She simply
is not qualified.

Eisboch


And Obama is more qualified..........how?

Did you know of Obama and his experience and experience before
speculation of his campaign for POTUS started?

BTW: *She* is not at the top of the ticket.
====================================

If I may jump in, it's not that Obama is qualified, it that Ms. Palin is
not.



Huh?

The R VP delegate is more qualified for the POTUS than the D POTUS is.

Explain how I am wrong.

D.Duck August 30th 08 01:19 AM

McCain's Age...
 

"JimH" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:47:16 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"JimH" wrote in message
...
On Aug 29, 7:24 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message

...
On Aug 29, 6:50 pm, hk wrote:

...and health are now issues *on* the table.

Guaranteed.

A 72-year-old man who has had four bouts with cancer...

http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/05/23...ealth.records/

And?

Means absolutely nothing. He could also get hit by one of his wife's
beer
trucks the day after the inauguration.

The POTUS has a responsibility to select a qualified VP, ready to step
in
should the need arise.
McCain didn't do that. He selected someone who might make him more
electable, that's all.

I admire the achievements to date of Sarah Whateverhernameis .... but I
am
very disappointed in the reasoning of McCain in selecting her. She
simply
is not qualified.

Eisboch


And Obama is more qualified..........how?

Did you know of Obama and his experience and experience before
speculation of his campaign for POTUS started?

BTW: *She* is not at the top of the ticket.
====================================

If I may jump in, it's not that Obama is qualified, it that Ms. Palin is
not.



Huh?

The R VP delegate is more qualified for the POTUS than the D POTUS is.

Explain how I am wrong.


I'll try to clarify. My opinion is that Obama is not the most qualified
person in the country to be President and Ms Palin is not the most qualified
person in the country to be VP.

I knew what I said in my last post, just poorly written for clairity. 8)



HK August 30th 08 01:29 AM

McCain's Age...
 
JimH wrote:
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:47:16 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"JimH" wrote in message
...
On Aug 29, 7:24 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message

...
On Aug 29, 6:50 pm, hk wrote:

...and health are now issues *on* the table.
Guaranteed.
A 72-year-old man who has had four bouts with cancer...
http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/05/23...ealth.records/

And?

Means absolutely nothing. He could also get hit by one of his wife's beer
trucks the day after the inauguration.

The POTUS has a responsibility to select a qualified VP, ready to step in
should the need arise.
McCain didn't do that. He selected someone who might make him more
electable, that's all.

I admire the achievements to date of Sarah Whateverhernameis .... but I am
very disappointed in the reasoning of McCain in selecting her. She simply
is not qualified.

Eisboch

And Obama is more qualified..........how?

Did you know of Obama and his experience and experience before
speculation of his campaign for POTUS started?

BTW: *She* is not at the top of the ticket.
====================================

If I may jump in, it's not that Obama is qualified, it that Ms. Palin is
not.



Huh?

The R VP delegate is more qualified for the POTUS than the D POTUS is.

Explain how I am wrong.



No need to...it is patently obvious.

Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] August 30th 08 02:02 AM

McCain's Age...
 
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:07:33 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .

On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:24:04 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



I admire the achievements to date of Sarah Whateverhernameis .... but I
am
very disappointed in the reasoning of McCain in selecting her. She
simply
is not qualified.


Who are you and what have you done with Eisboch? :)


LOL!

Present and accounted for.
I guess I just have a strange, unique view of what the POTUS is and what
he/she have as responsibilities.

McCain could have built a very respectable and strong team. He chose
rather to enhance his electibility.
It would have been ok if the VP selection had been someone with experience.
But, he chose a complete newbie, trying to work his "maverick" reputation.

Sorry. The stakes are too high for those cute games.
There's only one other choice, and the team is much stronger, IMO.


I respect your reasoning - it is a valid argument.

I just don't agree. I think back on my life and the various serious
and important decisions I've had to make for myself and others and
honestly can't think of a single time that I was "fully qualified" to
make them due to age, experience or ability.

Think about it - were you fully qualified to take a flier and start
your successful business? I know I wasn't fully qualified to take a
senior management position, but I was willing to learn on the job,
make the decisions, admit my mistakes and rectify them and keep
everybody moving in the same direction. That is what defines
leadership at it's base level - you have it, some others here have it
- it's that undefinable quality of sense of purpose that makes leaders
leaders.

I believe that McCain is that kind of person and from what I saw six
months ago when I first heard about Palin, she struck me as being the
same - somebody with the courage of conviction, the ability to be
pragmatic when necessary and the future outlook of relative youth.

Is Obama a "leader"? Certainly has the skills to be a leader - he
understands the trappings of power if you will from the determined
poses to the dramatic staging. The question is can he make a hard
decision outside his pay grade - that's what bothers me about Obama
because I don't think he can.

I suspect we will agree to disagree and that's fine - what makes the
world go 'round. :)


CalifBill August 30th 08 05:14 AM

McCain's Age...
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:47:16 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"JimH" wrote in message
...
On Aug 29, 7:24 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message

...
On Aug 29, 6:50 pm, hk wrote:

...and health are now issues *on* the table.
Guaranteed.
A 72-year-old man who has had four bouts with cancer...
http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/05/23...ealth.records/

And?

Means absolutely nothing. He could also get hit by one of his wife's
beer
trucks the day after the inauguration.

The POTUS has a responsibility to select a qualified VP, ready to step
in
should the need arise.
McCain didn't do that. He selected someone who might make him more
electable, that's all.

I admire the achievements to date of Sarah Whateverhernameis .... but I
am
very disappointed in the reasoning of McCain in selecting her. She
simply
is not qualified.

Eisboch
And Obama is more qualified..........how?

Did you know of Obama and his experience and experience before
speculation of his campaign for POTUS started?

BTW: *She* is not at the top of the ticket.
====================================

If I may jump in, it's not that Obama is qualified, it that Ms. Palin is
not.



Huh?

The R VP delegate is more qualified for the POTUS than the D POTUS is.

Explain how I am wrong.



No need to...it is patently obvious.


Actually is not obvious at all. Obama has no, zero, nada executive
experience. What little he had running the Annenberg challenge for schools
in Chicago shows how little competency he has. Mrs. Palin ran a 9500 person
city, Verty well from what I understand. Served on a major natural
resources board and got 2 people tossed for ethics violations. Ran a
fiscally conservative and successful first 2 years of a governorship. Was a
CPA so does know finances. Is a major problem in this country, one of the
most pressing, the excess spending by Congress. You explain how much better
Obama and Biden are.



[email protected] August 30th 08 05:22 AM

McCain's Age...
 
On Aug 30, 12:14 am, "CalifBill" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message

. ..



JimH wrote:
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:47:16 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"JimH" wrote in message
...
On Aug 29, 7:24 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message


...
On Aug 29, 6:50 pm, hk wrote:


...and health are now issues *on* the table.
Guaranteed.
A 72-year-old man who has had four bouts with cancer...
http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/05/23...ealth.records/


And?


Means absolutely nothing. He could also get hit by one of his wife's
beer
trucks the day after the inauguration.


The POTUS has a responsibility to select a qualified VP, ready to step
in
should the need arise.
McCain didn't do that. He selected someone who might make him more
electable, that's all.


I admire the achievements to date of Sarah Whateverhernameis .... but I
am
very disappointed in the reasoning of McCain in selecting her. She
simply
is not qualified.


Eisboch
And Obama is more qualified..........how?


Did you know of Obama and his experience and experience before
speculation of his campaign for POTUS started?


BTW: *She* is not at the top of the ticket.
====================================


If I may jump in, it's not that Obama is qualified, it that Ms. Palin is
not.


Huh?


The R VP delegate is more qualified for the POTUS than the D POTUS is.


Explain how I am wrong.


No need to...it is patently obvious.


Actually is not obvious at all. Obama has no, zero, nada executive
experience. What little he had running the Annenberg challenge for schools
in Chicago shows how little competency he has. Mrs. Palin ran a 9500 person
city, Verty well from what I understand. Served on a major natural
resources board and got 2 people tossed for ethics violations. Ran a
fiscally conservative and successful first 2 years of a governorship. Was a
CPA so does know finances. Is a major problem in this country, one of the
most pressing, the excess spending by Congress. You explain how much better
Obama and Biden are.


It is very clear that Palin is more qualified than either Biden or
lightweight Obama.

Eisboch August 30th 08 05:56 AM

McCain's Age...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

I respect your reasoning - it is a valid argument.

I just don't agree. I think back on my life and the various serious
and important decisions I've had to make for myself and others and
honestly can't think of a single time that I was "fully qualified" to
make them due to age, experience or ability.



other good points snipped for brevity

Part of the evaluation of risk taking is consideration to the ramifications
of failure, both to yourself and to others directly dependent on your
success. These are pretty high stakes and one needs to be very confident
in the team's qualifications.

I know that in my business it was just as important to know what contracts
*not* to take as it was determining which ones to aggressively go after.

But,both you and RG have made valid points worth consideration. I'll keep
an open mind and see how this all plays out.

Eisboch





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