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"hk" wrote in message . .. wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote: hk wrote: You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you resolve your health issues? Here's the answer: Nothing. But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's what's important to you. And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing me now. Still looking for a little substance, TJ We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money, we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's ambition. Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit! From Obama's site: Barack Obama's Plan Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features: Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was done. http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html snerk |
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![]() "hk" wrote in message . .. Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote: hk wrote: You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you resolve your health issues? Here's the answer: Nothing. But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's what's important to you. And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing me now. Still looking for a little substance, TJ We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money, we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's ambition. Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit! From Obama's site: Barack Obama's Plan Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features: Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was done. http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html snerk Yup, snerk on your program. |
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Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message . .. Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote: hk wrote: You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you resolve your health issues? Here's the answer: Nothing. But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's what's important to you. And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing me now. Still looking for a little substance, TJ We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money, we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's ambition. Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit! From Obama's site: Barack Obama's Plan Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features: Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was done. http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html snerk Yup, snerk on your program. Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it. Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about. |
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![]() "hk" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote: hk wrote: You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you resolve your health issues? Here's the answer: Nothing. But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's what's important to you. And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing me now. Still looking for a little substance, TJ We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money, we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's ambition. Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit! From Obama's site: Barack Obama's Plan Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features: Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was done. http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html snerk Yup, snerk on your program. Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it. Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about. Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. Is plans so far are about like Kerry's I have a plan, plan. Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give everybody a $1000 check. Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. The governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. They going to increase those also? Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas will cost a gallon then? Stupid is your middle name. |
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Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote: hk wrote: You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you resolve your health issues? Here's the answer: Nothing. But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's what's important to you. And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing me now. Still looking for a little substance, TJ We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money, we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's ambition. Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit! From Obama's site: Barack Obama's Plan Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features: Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was done. http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html snerk Yup, snerk on your program. Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it. Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about. Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. Is plans so far are about like Kerry's I have a plan, plan. Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give everybody a $1000 check. Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. The governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. They going to increase those also? Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas will cost a gallon then? Stupid is your middle name. Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate icon and read it for yourself. |
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On Aug 26, 5:00*pm, hk wrote:
Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message om... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message news:W5WdnY4DXMbZgCnVnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comcast .com... wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote: hk wrote: You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you resolve your health issues? Here's the answer: Nothing. But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's what's important to you. And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing me now. Still looking for a little substance, TJ We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money, we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's ambition. Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! *Dammit! From Obama's site: Barack Obama's Plan Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All * * * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features: Based on Medicare program? *Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims and do not check for fraud? *My fishing partner was an investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. *When they found fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. *They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was done. http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html snerk Yup, snerk on your program. Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it. Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about. Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. *Is plans so far are about like Kerry's I have a plan, plan. * Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give everybody a $1000 check. *Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. *The governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. *They going to increase those also? *Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas will cost a gallon then? *Stupid is your middle name. Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate icon and read it for yourself. I tried. I went to barackobama.com First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip code. Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I did. So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda)............ Sorry...........not the way I do business. Be upfront about your plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate. |
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![]() "hk" wrote in message . .. Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote: hk wrote: You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you resolve your health issues? Here's the answer: Nothing. But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's what's important to you. And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing me now. Still looking for a little substance, TJ We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money, we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's ambition. Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit! From Obama's site: Barack Obama's Plan Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features: Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was done. http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html snerk Yup, snerk on your program. Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it. Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about. Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. Is plans so far are about like Kerry's I have a plan, plan. Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give everybody a $1000 check. Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. The governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. They going to increase those also? Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas will cost a gallon then? Stupid is your middle name. Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate icon and read it for yourself. I read it. Did you. Explain to me how we are going to get any savings. $10 billion a year to put medical records on computer. Most doctors do this now. and if it is a government program, where is privacy? Save on drug costs by requiring pharma companies to give away free drugs. They do this now, and then they just have to raise prices to cover the give aways. Nothing, other than the ability to negotiate lower drug prices for Medicare is going to save the US any money. |
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On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:31:28 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "hk" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote: hk wrote: You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you resolve your health issues? Here's the answer: Nothing. But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's what's important to you. And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing me now. Still looking for a little substance, TJ We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money, we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's ambition. Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit! From Obama's site: Barack Obama's Plan Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features: Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was done. http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html snerk Yup, snerk on your program. CNN had a good discussion about Medicare fraud last night. And the use of Medicare as a 'model' by Obama was mentioned also. It's all about power. Promise the stupid anything to get a vote. |
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On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:43:59 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "hk" wrote in message ... wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote: hk wrote: You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you resolve your health issues? Here's the answer: Nothing. But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's what's important to you. And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing me now. Still looking for a little substance, TJ We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money, we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's ambition. Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit! From Obama's site: Barack Obama's Plan Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features: Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was done. http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html That fraud thing really ****es me off. The gov could spend a penny to save a quarter with more fraud investigators. But then some asshole would start whining about a bigger federal payroll. You need enough cops to keep crime in check. No 2 ways about it. --Vic |
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