On Aug 26, 1:12*pm, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:55:33 -0300, "Don White"

wrote:
ote... some feel amuminum bats are more dangerous because the ball rebounds
off them faster, not giving the pitcher time to duck.

A home run every time? You did say the ball has a higher velocity. I
have never that alum bats hit them farther.

Casady

Yeah, a whole whopping four miles per hour faster, how could a pitcher
possibly duck THAT??!!!

Scientific evidence that batted ball speed is faster for aluminum
baseball bats.

Given the amount of controvery over the metal versus wood bat issue,
there have been surprisingly few scientific studies comparing the
performance of wood and metal baseball bats. There is one paper from
1977, when aluminum bats were just beginning to assert their
prominence, which concluded that the batted ball speed of an aluminum
baseball bat was about 3.85 mph faster than a wood baseball bat.[1]
The study was conducted with six skilled college players during more
than a dozen batting practice sessions over a 5-day period. Each
player would take several swings with either a wood or aluminum bat
(randomly chosen), rest for 10 minutes, then take several swings with
the other bat. Balls were pitched from both pitching machines and
regular batting practice pitchers, but pitchers were found to be more
consistent. During the testing, the average pitched ball speed was
56.6 mph. Batted ball speeds were measured using a radar gun. Data was
collected for each player until 30 line drives were produced within a
certain range of locations in the outfield. The results were an
average batted ball speed (for line drives) of 88.6 mph for the wood
bat and 92.5 mph for the aluminum bat. A second phase of the study
attempted to explain the increase in performance of the aluminum bat
by comparing the size of the "sweet spot" for the two bats by locating
the center-of-percussion. The study found that the aluminum bat
appeared to have a larger COP than the wood bat.

On Aug 26, 1:23*pm, wrote:
On Aug 26, 1:12*pm, (Richard Casady)
wrote:

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:55:33 -0300, "Don White"

wrote:
ote... some feel amuminum bats are more dangerous because the ball rebounds
off them faster, not giving the pitcher time to duck.

A home run every time? You did say the ball has a higher velocity. I
have never that alum bats hit them farther.

Casady

Yeah, a whole whopping four miles per hour faster, how could a pitcher
possibly duck THAT??!!!

I was a pitcher and I dunno' but I managed to take a linedrive off a
wooden bat once.. I don't want it to go any faster at all

Scientific evidence that batted ball speed is faster for aluminum
baseball bats.

Given the amount of controvery over the metal versus wood bat issue,
there have been surprisingly few scientific studies comparing the
performance of wood and metal baseball bats. There is one paper from
1977, when aluminum bats were just beginning to assert their
prominence, which concluded that the batted ball speed of an aluminum
baseball bat was about 3.85 mph faster than a wood baseball bat.[1]
The study was conducted with six skilled college players during more
than a dozen batting practice sessions over a 5-day period. Each
player would take several swings with either a wood or aluminum bat
(randomly chosen), rest for 10 minutes, then take several swings with
the other bat. Balls were pitched from both pitching machines and
regular batting practice pitchers, but pitchers were found to be more
consistent. During the testing, the average pitched ball speed was
56.6 mph. Batted ball speeds were measured using a radar gun. Data was
collected for each player until 30 line drives were produced within a
certain range of locations in the outfield. The results were an
average batted ball speed (for line drives) of 88.6 mph for the wood
bat and 92.5 mph for the aluminum bat. A second phase of the study
attempted to explain the increase in performance of the aluminum bat
by comparing the size of the "sweet spot" for the two bats by locating
the center-of-percussion. The study found that the aluminum bat
appeared to have a larger COP than the wood bat.

Of course, I would rather not take half a wooden bat to the chest
either Do the metal ones break off?

wrote:
On Aug 26, 1:23 pm, wrote:
On Aug 26, 1:12 pm, (Richard Casady)
wrote:

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:55:33 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:
ote... some feel amuminum bats are more dangerous because the ball rebounds
off them faster, not giving the pitcher time to duck.
A home run every time? You did say the ball has a higher velocity. I
have never that alum bats hit them farther.
Casady
Yeah, a whole whopping four miles per hour faster, how could a pitcher
possibly duck THAT??!!!

I was a pitcher and I dunno' but I managed to take a linedrive off a
wooden bat once.. I don't want it to go any faster at all
Scientific evidence that batted ball speed is faster for aluminum
baseball bats.

Given the amount of controvery over the metal versus wood bat issue,
there have been surprisingly few scientific studies comparing the
performance of wood and metal baseball bats. There is one paper from
1977, when aluminum bats were just beginning to assert their
prominence, which concluded that the batted ball speed of an aluminum
baseball bat was about 3.85 mph faster than a wood baseball bat.[1]
The study was conducted with six skilled college players during more
than a dozen batting practice sessions over a 5-day period. Each
player would take several swings with either a wood or aluminum bat
(randomly chosen), rest for 10 minutes, then take several swings with
the other bat. Balls were pitched from both pitching machines and
regular batting practice pitchers, but pitchers were found to be more
consistent. During the testing, the average pitched ball speed was
56.6 mph. Batted ball speeds were measured using a radar gun. Data was
collected for each player until 30 line drives were produced within a
certain range of locations in the outfield. The results were an
average batted ball speed (for line drives) of 88.6 mph for the wood
bat and 92.5 mph for the aluminum bat. A second phase of the study
attempted to explain the increase in performance of the aluminum bat
by comparing the size of the "sweet spot" for the two bats by locating
the center-of-percussion. The study found that the aluminum bat
appeared to have a larger COP than the wood bat.

Of course, I would rather not take half a wooden bat to the chest
either Do the metal ones break off?



D'oh...what about the results when the ball isn't lobbed to the plate?

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:03:07 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:40:25 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


Does anybody find it highly amusing that Adobe, who in truth, controls
almost 90% of streaming video via Flash and 75% of the digital
video/imagery/text content on the web via CS3 and Reader is ****ed off
about Silverlight being potential competition?

Talk about the pot caling the kettle black. :)

Tell that to Netscape, the one time dominant browser.

At one time the ONLY browser until Microsoft developed Windows 3.0.
Unfortunately, Andreessen was a horrible businessman and couldn't
compete.

This is a case that relates back to Eisboch's earlier comment about
Left/Right. Andreessen wanted the government to solve his problem for
him.

Nature of competition - he got punked and badly.

And I say that as a early adopter of Mosiac and Navigator which was a
great browser - no doubt about it.

Andreessen really did not own the rights to Netscape in the first place.
Was developed under a government grant to him in university. But he should
have brough in a good business guy. Give away the browser for personal use
and let the clients do the debugging. Then charge for the commercial
version. Made good money for awhile.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:16:38 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


That's what cracks me up. Both political philosophies, Left and Right,
support "empowering people". In theory, the Right empowers by minimizing
government interference. allowing people to aspire to whatever level of
interest, business and financial success they desire, based on their
individual level of motivation.

The Left "empowers" by attempting to level the playing field, demanding
equal or similar benefits, rewards and lifestyle for everyone by
penalizing
those with more than average ambition.

I can put it even simpler - the Right believes in individual wealth as
part of the collective and the Left believes in the collective via
redistribution of individual wealth.

And at this point I feel a rant coming on and I'm just not in the mood
at the moment. :)

The last 8 years, the right has not beleived in empowering the people. They
have been much like the Left. Spend, spend, spend. Just different
programs.

"Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " wrote in message
. ..
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
)

There isn't a way to cook liver to make it palatable.

As a kid, I ate beef liver and didn't gag, but it was never my favorite
meal. I did enjoy the chicken livers sold at KFC.

Today, when I see it in the store, I gag.

I buy all of my produce and meats in a ethnic market specializing in
Mexican and Asian products. It is amazing the parts of animals and
different sea life, that they considered a delicacy.

Surprisingly, some "scrap" animals parts, such as ox tails, sell at
outrageous prices. Ox tails and pig feet used to be some of the "parts"
that were given to the slaves, and were useless to everyone else. Now the
sell at a premium.

Like Brisket. I can buy top round to smoke cheaper than Brisket at most
stores. And Ribeye steaks used to be the cheap steak with steak and eggs.
Now seems to be higher than a good New York.

Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:16:38 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


That's what cracks me up. Both political philosophies, Left and Right,
support "empowering people". In theory, the Right empowers by minimizing
government interference. allowing people to aspire to whatever level of
interest, business and financial success they desire, based on their
individual level of motivation.

The Left "empowers" by attempting to level the playing field, demanding
equal or similar benefits, rewards and lifestyle for everyone by
penalizing
those with more than average ambition.
I can put it even simpler - the Right believes in individual wealth as
part of the collective and the Left believes in the collective via
redistribution of individual wealth.

And at this point I feel a rant coming on and I'm just not in the mood
at the moment. :)

The last 8 years, the right has not beleived in empowering the people. They
have been much like the Left. Spend, spend, spend. Just different
programs.



It really was hard to tell the difference between one drunken sailor and
another. And don't get me started on Ashcroft and Rumsfield.

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:21:10 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " wrote in message
...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
)

There isn't a way to cook liver to make it palatable.

As a kid, I ate beef liver and didn't gag, but it was never my favorite
meal. I did enjoy the chicken livers sold at KFC.

Today, when I see it in the store, I gag.

I buy all of my produce and meats in a ethnic market specializing in
Mexican and Asian products. It is amazing the parts of animals and
different sea life, that they considered a delicacy.

Surprisingly, some "scrap" animals parts, such as ox tails, sell at
outrageous prices. Ox tails and pig feet used to be some of the "parts"
that were given to the slaves, and were useless to everyone else. Now the
sell at a premium.

Like Brisket. I can buy top round to smoke cheaper than Brisket at most
stores. And Ribeye steaks used to be the cheap steak with steak and eggs.
Now seems to be higher than a good New York.


For years, the best kept secret was 'country style ribs'. Now they cost a
fortune.

Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. wrote:

It really was hard


Some nice candids of the olympics:

http://www.vkmag.com/galleries/galle..._fotos_part_1/

http://www.vkmag.com/galleries/galle..._fotos_part_2/

http://www.vkmag.com/galleries/galle..._fotos_part_3/

JL

Jerry Lane wrote:
Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. wrote:

It really was hard


Some nice candids of the olympics:

http://www.vkmag.com/galleries/galle..._fotos_part_1/


http://www.vkmag.com/galleries/galle..._fotos_part_2/


http://www.vkmag.com/galleries/galle..._fotos_part_3/


JL

Those are some of the best photos of the Olympics I have seen.