On Aug 20, 10:43*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message

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Hopefully, the Dems will make a nice TV commercial out of McCain's
statement. If they do, that may well be the end of McCain.

If they do, I hope they include the long-winded, rambling, hard to follow
speech of a question that the woman asked.

All he said, when she finally shut up, was "I don't disagree with you".

The whole thing is stupid.

Eisboch

Exactly.

Here is another discussion of the issue:

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/...draft_nope.php

Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Hopefully, the Dems will make a nice TV commercial out of McCain's
statement. If they do, that may well be the end of McCain.


If they do, I hope they include the long-winded, rambling, hard to follow
speech of a question that the woman asked.

All he said, when she finally shut up, was "I don't disagree with you".

The whole thing is stupid.

Eisboch



What difference does that make? McCain's said all many of conflicting
things about the draft in recent years. He was for it before he was
against it before he was for it.

On Aug 20, 10:56*pm, hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Hopefully, the Dems will make a nice TV commercial out of McCain's
statement. If they do, that may well be the end of McCain.

If they do, I hope they include the long-winded, rambling, hard to follow
speech of a question that the woman asked.

All he said, when she finally shut up, was "I don't disagree with you".

The whole thing is stupid.

Eisboch

What difference does that make? McCain's said all many of conflicting
things about the draft in recent years. He was for it before he was
against it before he was for it.


Nice spin.

JimH wrote:
On Aug 20, 10:56 pm, hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Hopefully, the Dems will make a nice TV commercial out of McCain's
statement. If they do, that may well be the end of McCain.
If they do, I hope they include the long-winded, rambling, hard to follow
speech of a question that the woman asked.
All he said, when she finally shut up, was "I don't disagree with you".
The whole thing is stupid.
Eisboch
What difference does that make? McCain's said all many of conflicting
things about the draft in recent years. He was for it before he was
against it before he was for it.


Nice spin.


Over the last few years, McCain has been for the draft, against the
draft, for the draft, and against the draft. McCain flips and flops more
than the egg turner at Waffle House. Some of this may be because he
simply has changed his mind, which is reasonable, and some of it may be
because he simply cannot remember from one day to the next what the
position du jour is.

He's old, he's tired, he's repetitive, and he is way, way past his prime.

We don't need to elect a president cast in the mold of GWB, a man like
McCain who will turn out to be an incompetent leader, a president with
terrible judgment who makes lousy decisions. If the country hasn't been
in a coma the last eight years, it will not elect John McBush, er,
McSame, er, McCain.

"hk" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Hopefully, the Dems will make a nice TV commercial out of McCain's
statement. If they do, that may well be the end of McCain.


If they do, I hope they include the long-winded, rambling, hard to follow
speech of a question that the woman asked.

All he said, when she finally shut up, was "I don't disagree with you".

The whole thing is stupid.

Eisboch

What difference does that make? McCain's said all many of conflicting
things about the draft in recent years. He was for it before he was
against it before he was for it.


What difference does it make?

A big difference to those that are actually listening and not simply
repeating the left wing spin.
I saw this a week or more ago, thought about posting it for your benefit,
then said, "The heck with it, Harry will cut and paste it soon anyway".

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"hk" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Hopefully, the Dems will make a nice TV commercial out of McCain's
statement. If they do, that may well be the end of McCain.


If they do, I hope they include the long-winded, rambling, hard to
follow speech of a question that the woman asked.

All he said, when she finally shut up, was "I don't disagree with you".

The whole thing is stupid.

Eisboch

What difference does that make? McCain's said all many of conflicting
things about the draft in recent years. He was for it before he was
against it before he was for it.


What difference does it make?

A big difference to those that are actually listening and not simply
repeating the left wing spin.
I saw this a week or more ago, thought about posting it for your benefit,
then said, "The heck with it, Harry will cut and paste it soon anyway".

Eisboch


Mistake. I was confusing two threads. The one I saw a week or so ago was
the article about McCain's first wife and the divorce of 28 years ago.

Eisboch

On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:53:57 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:45:37 -0400, hk wrote:

McCain on the record...wants to reinstate the draft.

One has to wonder just how many wars McCain wants to start
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Personally I think the draft is a good thing. Stopping it sure didn't
stop stupid wars but it did give us a generation of stupid kids who
would have been better served if they spent a few years in the
military.

The draft gave the entire society a stake in the military, and in
avoiding military adventurism. Rich mens sons served in Viet Nam.

Casady

On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:54:09 +0000, Richard Casady wrote:


The draft gave the entire society a stake in the military, and in
avoiding military adventurism. Rich mens sons served in Viet Nam.

Casady

Personally, I keep thinking we are asking too much of too few. These
soldiers are going into a war zone four and five tours. That just isn't
right in my book. As a country, if we are going to war, we should do it
as a country meaning everyone should roll the dice.

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On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:54:09 +0000, Richard Casady wrote:


The draft gave the entire society a stake in the military, and in
avoiding military adventurism. Rich mens sons served in Viet Nam.

Casady

Personally, I keep thinking we are asking too much of too few. These
soldiers are going into a war zone four and five tours. That just isn't
right in my book. As a country, if we are going to war, we should do it
as a country meaning everyone should roll the dice.


I think those serving might disagree with you, although your general
justification has merit.
The volunteer military is a much more professional, dedicated and capable
organization than that of the draft period which I was a member of.

Eisboch

On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:59:37 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:54:09 +0000, Richard Casady wrote:


The draft gave the entire society a stake in the military, and in
avoiding military adventurism. Rich mens sons served in Viet Nam.

Casady

Personally, I keep thinking we are asking too much of too few. These
soldiers are going into a war zone four and five tours. That just isn't
right in my book. As a country, if we are going to war, we should do it
as a country meaning everyone should roll the dice.

Going into a war zone has a lot of bennies for the soldiers. My daughter's
husband is thinking seriously of changing units just so he *can* go back.
Financially, it's a windfall. They would get a housing allowance, which
they don't get now, his military pay would be tax free, and the company he
works for would make up the difference in his mil pay and civilian pay.

The chances of getting killed or wounded in Iraq are very small and coming
down every day.