JimH wrote:
On Aug 20, 10:56 pm, hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Hopefully, the Dems will make a nice TV commercial out of McCain's
statement. If they do, that may well be the end of McCain.
If they do, I hope they include the long-winded, rambling, hard to follow
speech of a question that the woman asked.
All he said, when she finally shut up, was "I don't disagree with you".
The whole thing is stupid.
Eisboch
What difference does that make? McCain's said all many of conflicting
things about the draft in recent years. He was for it before he was
against it before he was for it.


Nice spin.


Over the last few years, McCain has been for the draft, against the
draft, for the draft, and against the draft. McCain flips and flops more
than the egg turner at Waffle House. Some of this may be because he
simply has changed his mind, which is reasonable, and some of it may be
because he simply cannot remember from one day to the next what the
position du jour is.

He's old, he's tired, he's repetitive, and he is way, way past his prime.

We don't need to elect a president cast in the mold of GWB, a man like
McCain who will turn out to be an incompetent leader, a president with
terrible judgment who makes lousy decisions. If the country hasn't been
in a coma the last eight years, it will not elect John McBush, er,
McSame, er, McCain.

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He's old, he's tired, he's repetitive, and he is way, way past his prime.



So are a couple of people here in rec.boats. :-)

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
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He's old, he's tired, he's repetitive, and he is way, way past his prime.



So are a couple of people here in rec.boats. :-)

Eisboch




The old f*rts here ain't runnin' for POTUS.

"hk" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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He's old, he's tired, he's repetitive, and he is way, way past his
prime.



So are a couple of people here in rec.boats. :-)

Eisboch


The old f*rts here ain't runnin' for POTUS.


There's a couple I might consider voting for.

Meanwhile, your buddy Obama is making a huge mistake, I think. Back from
vacation, he's running around promising millions of new, union jobs. He
must have forgotten that union jobs make up a very small minority of
employment in the US and most non-union workers and employers want
absolutely nothing to do with them.

He isn't going to garner many votes with this approach.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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He's old, he's tired, he's repetitive, and he is way, way past his
prime.


So are a couple of people here in rec.boats. :-)

Eisboch

The old f*rts here ain't runnin' for POTUS.


There's a couple I might consider voting for.

Meanwhile, your buddy Obama is making a huge mistake, I think. Back from
vacation, he's running around promising millions of new, union jobs. He
must have forgotten that union jobs make up a very small minority of
employment in the US and most non-union workers and employers want
absolutely nothing to do with them.

He isn't going to garner many votes with this approach.

Eisboch




Yes, indeed...the exploited lower middle income workers in this country
know that Job One is to work for less and with fewer if any bennies so
their corporate masters and stockholders can get richer, while they
slide into oblivion.

I do so wish I were younger sometimes, so that when the exploited
finally realize they've been getting screwed for generations, I could
see some of the heads they put on pikes.

hk wrote:
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I do so wish I were younger sometimes, so that when the exploited
finally realize they've been getting screwed for generations, I could
see some of the heads they put on pikes.

Vlad? Is that you?

On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 06:58:45 -0400, "Earl of Warwich, Duke of
Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC,
STP. " wrote:

hk wrote:
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I do so wish I were younger sometimes, so that when the exploited
finally realize they've been getting screwed for generations, I could
see some of the heads they put on pikes.

Vlad? Is that you?

The head is not where Vlad put the pike, and the victims were alive at
the time. Not really a pike in his case, the proper stake is as high
as the navel, greased, and tapers from four inches at the ground to a
rounded point like half a golf ball. There is a reason that the
Constitution prohibits cruel and unusual punishments.

Casady

"hk" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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He's old, he's tired, he's repetitive, and he is way, way past his
prime.


So are a couple of people here in rec.boats. :-)

Eisboch

The old f*rts here ain't runnin' for POTUS.


There's a couple I might consider voting for.

Meanwhile, your buddy Obama is making a huge mistake, I think. Back
from vacation, he's running around promising millions of new, union jobs.
He must have forgotten that union jobs make up a very small minority of
employment in the US and most non-union workers and employers want
absolutely nothing to do with them.

He isn't going to garner many votes with this approach.

Eisboch


Yes, indeed...the exploited lower middle income workers in this country
know that Job One is to work for less and with fewer if any bennies so
their corporate masters and stockholders can get richer, while they slide
into oblivion.

I do so wish I were younger sometimes, so that when the exploited finally
realize they've been getting screwed for generations, I could see some of
the heads they put on pikes.


That's not the group that Obama is alienating. The majority of jobs in
the US is in small, private companies.
For the most part, a "big" corporate culture doesn't exist and the owners
are typically the major (or only) stockholder.
These companies have a relationship with the employees quite different than
that you complain about and typically have no interest in unions, employees
or employer.

This workforce is the group that Obama will not appeal to with his promises,
and they represent the majority of voters.

Eisboch

On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:04:21 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

This workforce is the group that Obama will not appeal to with his promises,
and they represent the majority of voters.

I still think this whole discussion is mute.

I think the PUMA faction is going to take the nomination away from
BarryO and give it to Hillary.

Just a hunch - nothing to back it up, but reading about BarryO's
capitulation to the PUMA faction, the fact that Clinton will have her
own floor whips at the convention, the rally, the absolutely vicious
email the PUMA faction sent around (and probably more racist than
anything I've seen in the past few years) and that a full 30% of the
PUMA faction saying they will not vote for BarryO under any
circumstances and some noted Democrats awkwardly avoiding BarryO like
the Plague - it's very possible. The later is key - the Democrats in
this state avoided Ned Lamont like the Plague too - and look what
happened to him.

Add that the Clintons aren't being very visible or open about
endorsing BarryO, the new questions about his heritage (as in
registering at a Indonesian Catholic School as a Muslim), the fact
that the Arab world will view him as an apostate, heretic and unclean
making his job harder to deal with them (which is gaining some
momentum among the smarter Democrats).

You know what's even funnier about all this? All this stuff I've just
talked about has come from Democratic sources, blogs, comments and one
forum I read fairly regularly - none of which are exactly ...um...
moderately leftist in nature. :)

It might be actually worth watching.

Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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He's old, he's tired, he's repetitive, and he is way, way past his
prime.

So are a couple of people here in rec.boats. :-)

Eisboch
The old f*rts here ain't runnin' for POTUS.

There's a couple I might consider voting for.

Meanwhile, your buddy Obama is making a huge mistake, I think. Back
from vacation, he's running around promising millions of new, union jobs.
He must have forgotten that union jobs make up a very small minority of
employment in the US and most non-union workers and employers want
absolutely nothing to do with them.

He isn't going to garner many votes with this approach.

Eisboch

Yes, indeed...the exploited lower middle income workers in this country
know that Job One is to work for less and with fewer if any bennies so
their corporate masters and stockholders can get richer, while they slide
into oblivion.

I do so wish I were younger sometimes, so that when the exploited finally
realize they've been getting screwed for generations, I could see some of
the heads they put on pikes.


That's not the group that Obama is alienating. The majority of jobs in
the US is in small, private companies.
For the most part, a "big" corporate culture doesn't exist and the owners
are typically the major (or only) stockholder.
These companies have a relationship with the employees quite different than
that you complain about and typically have no interest in unions, employees
or employer.

This workforce is the group that Obama will not appeal to with his promises,
and they represent the majority of voters.

Eisboch



I would have thought Obama would walk away with the election. It looks
like he is falling off a cliff, which is why Harry is going crazy with
these cut and paste article.

If he really wanted to make a difference, he would spend time doing
something productive to help, instead of spending all his time in rec.boats.