Jim wrote:

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:32:45 -0400, "Wheeler Jim"
wrote:

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On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:25:12 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

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news On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:10:49 -0400, "Eisboch"
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"Tim" wrote in message
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On Aug 8, 1:01 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

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Did you ever wonder why the heater fan in your car operates
from low-
medium-high, while a typical box window fan operates from
High-medium-
low?
I was just thinking about that.
hmm....
Oh yeah, I never figured out how 8 "bits" could equal $1.00
either...
We will all try to put your mind at ease:

With the fans, the car is a DC motor and the window is AC.
Starting
torque is different.
As for the bits ..... isn't 2 "bits" a quarter?
But you can take a window fan and set it on "low" , plug it in,
and it
starts up jjust fine, though...
True, but it's not particularly good for the motor. Ideally, it
should
start up on "high" to give max torque using all the windings of
the motor.
Then, it can be turned down. Not a big deal though ... most
fans can
handle it. I forget the mechanical stuff, but it takes
something like 3
times the amount of power to get something in motion than it
does to
maintain that motion.
Newton's Laws of Motion: force is redundant and subordinate to the
conservation of momentum.

Ipso facto, quid pro quo, illegitimi non carborundum. Carpe Diem.
:)
Burma Shave....
ROTFL!!!!

Damn - why am I feeling particularly briliant this morning?

Must be the coffee.... :)
Could it be that you were recently anointed temporary Lord of the
Realm?

Well, first of all, I am not Lord of The Realm - I am a mere Knight of
The Realm.

Secondly, Rule #1 on the Evil Overlord Instruction and Maintenance
Manual clearly states "Always make the victim of your world domination
scheme think that it was his or her idea."


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Four of the last 10 posts over there are snark attacks or nonsense
from Reggie.

What are the other six?

Non-Reggie posts.

On Aug 8, 11:39*am, hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:32:45 -0400, "Wheeler Jim"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:25:12 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:10:49 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Aug 8, 1:01 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

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Did you ever wonder why the heater fan in your car operates from
low-
medium-high, while a typical *box window fan operates from
High-medium-
low?
I was just thinking about that.
hmm....
Oh yeah, I never figured out how 8 "bits" could equal $1.00
either...
We will all try to put your mind at ease:

With the fans, the car is a DC motor and the window is AC.
Starting
torque is different.
As for the bits ..... isn't 2 "bits" a quarter?
But you can take a window fan and set it on "low" , plug it in, and it
starts up jjust fine, though...
True, but it's not particularly good for the motor. *Ideally, it should
start up on "high" to give max torque using all the windings of the
motor.
Then, it can be turned down. * Not a big deal though ... most fans can
handle it. * I forget the mechanical stuff, but it takes something like
3
times the amount of power to get something in motion than it does to
maintain that motion.
Newton's Laws of Motion: *force is redundant and subordinate to the
conservation of momentum.

Ipso facto, quid pro quo, illegitimi non carborundum. Carpe Diem. *:)
Burma Shave....
ROTFL!!!!

Damn - why am I feeling particularly briliant this morning?

Must be the coffee.... * :)
Could it be that you were recently anointed temporary Lord of the Realm?

Well, first of all, I am not Lord of The Realm - I am a mere Knight of
The Realm.

Secondly, Rule #1 on the *Evil Overlord Instruction and Maintenance
Manual clearly states "Always make the victim of your world domination
scheme think that it was his or her idea."

-- - - - -

Four of the last 10 posts over there are snark attacks or nonsense from
Reggie.
.

Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You're starting to whine as much as Cryin' Jim Hertvick.

On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:10:49 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

True, but it's not particularly good for the motor. Ideally, it should
start up on "high" to give max torque using all the windings of the motor.
Then, it can be turned down. Not a big deal though ... most fans can
handle it. I forget the mechanical stuff, but it takes something like 3
times the amount of power to get something in motion than it does to
maintain that motion.

Actually the only force required to maintain motion is that required
to overcome friction or do work. Therefore the ratio is theoretically
infinite if the fan operates in a vacuum and has frictionless
bearings.

On Aug 8, 8:54 am, "Don White" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

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Did you ever wonder why the heater fan in your car operates from low-
medium-high, while a typical box window fan operates from High-medium-
low?

I was just thinking about that.

hmm....

Oh yeah, I never figured out how 8 "bits" could equal $1.00 either...

And...'pull chain' operated fans start at off - high speed-- med -low-- off
rotary button fans go from off - low - med - high and you reverse direction
to switch off.

And are also controlled via a rheostat and can be started at a creep
with no apparent danger[s]

On Aug 8, 11:39*am, hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:32:45 -0400, "Wheeler Jim"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:25:12 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:10:49 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Aug 8, 1:01 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...

Did you ever wonder why the heater fan in your car operates from
low-
medium-high, while a typical *box window fan operates from
High-medium-
low?
I was just thinking about that.
hmm....
Oh yeah, I never figured out how 8 "bits" could equal $1.00
either...
We will all try to put your mind at ease:

With the fans, the car is a DC motor and the window is AC.
Starting
torque is different.
As for the bits ..... isn't 2 "bits" a quarter?
But you can take a window fan and set it on "low" , plug it in, and it
starts up jjust fine, though...
True, but it's not particularly good for the motor. *Ideally, it should
start up on "high" to give max torque using all the windings of the
motor.
Then, it can be turned down. * Not a big deal though ... most fans can
handle it. * I forget the mechanical stuff, but it takes something like
3
times the amount of power to get something in motion than it does to
maintain that motion.
Newton's Laws of Motion: *force is redundant and subordinate to the
conservation of momentum.

Ipso facto, quid pro quo, illegitimi non carborundum. Carpe Diem. *:)
Burma Shave....
ROTFL!!!!

Damn - why am I feeling particularly briliant this morning?

Must be the coffee.... * :)
Could it be that you were recently anointed temporary Lord of the Realm?

Well, first of all, I am not Lord of The Realm - I am a mere Knight of
The Realm.

Secondly, Rule #1 on the *Evil Overlord Instruction and Maintenance
Manual clearly states "Always make the victim of your world domination
scheme think that it was his or her idea."

-- - - - -

Four of the last 10 posts over there are snark attacks or nonsense from
Reggie.
.

Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, too bad you are not clever enough to respond without getting
binned..

On Aug 8, 12:13*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Richard Casady" wrote in message

...

On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:10:49 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I forget the mechanical stuff, but it takes something like 3
times the amount of power to get something in motion than it does to
maintain that motion.

Not exactly. It is true that if you are sliding something, it will
take more force, not power, to get it started than to maintain it in
motion at minimum speed. As for power, that is rate of doing work.
Work is force applied times distance moved.

Ok. Ok. *Lemmie try again.

At the "low" setting, the fan will temporarily draw more current to produce
the same power (watts) to get the stupid fan blade moving. *Since the
windings in these cheap fans are so wimpy to begin with, this ain't so good
over the long term.

Eisboch

Right, it's kind of like trying to get started with a restrictor
plate..

wrote:
On Aug 8, 11:39 am, hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:32:45 -0400, "Wheeler Jim"
wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:25:12 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:10:49 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Aug 8, 1:01 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
...
Did you ever wonder why the heater fan in your car operates from
low-
medium-high, while a typical box window fan operates from
High-medium-
low?
I was just thinking about that.
hmm....
Oh yeah, I never figured out how 8 "bits" could equal $1.00
either...
We will all try to put your mind at ease:
With the fans, the car is a DC motor and the window is AC.
Starting
torque is different.
As for the bits ..... isn't 2 "bits" a quarter?
But you can take a window fan and set it on "low" , plug it in, and it
starts up jjust fine, though...
True, but it's not particularly good for the motor. Ideally, it should
start up on "high" to give max torque using all the windings of the
motor.
Then, it can be turned down. Not a big deal though ... most fans can
handle it. I forget the mechanical stuff, but it takes something like
3
times the amount of power to get something in motion than it does to
maintain that motion.
Newton's Laws of Motion: force is redundant and subordinate to the
conservation of momentum.
Ipso facto, quid pro quo, illegitimi non carborundum. Carpe Diem. :)
Burma Shave....
ROTFL!!!!
Damn - why am I feeling particularly briliant this morning?
Must be the coffee.... :)
Could it be that you were recently anointed temporary Lord of the Realm?
Well, first of all, I am not Lord of The Realm - I am a mere Knight of
The Realm.
Secondly, Rule #1 on the Evil Overlord Instruction and Maintenance
Manual clearly states "Always make the victim of your world domination
scheme think that it was his or her idea."
-- - - - -

Four of the last 10 posts over there are snark attacks or nonsense from
Reggie.
.

Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, too bad you are not clever enough to respond without getting
binned..


I already responded to the only interesting new post over there, the one
on the model boats. I don't respond to ReggieCrap here...or there.


--
Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.

"hk" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Aug 8, 11:39 am, hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:32:45 -0400, "Wheeler Jim"
wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:25:12 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
message
news On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:10:49 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Aug 8, 1:01 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
...
Did you ever wonder why the heater fan in your car operates
from
low-
medium-high, while a typical box window fan operates from
High-medium-
low?
I was just thinking about that.
hmm....
Oh yeah, I never figured out how 8 "bits" could equal $1.00
either...
We will all try to put your mind at ease:
With the fans, the car is a DC motor and the window is AC.
Starting
torque is different.
As for the bits ..... isn't 2 "bits" a quarter?
But you can take a window fan and set it on "low" , plug it in,
and it
starts up jjust fine, though...
True, but it's not particularly good for the motor. Ideally, it
should
start up on "high" to give max torque using all the windings of
the
motor.
Then, it can be turned down. Not a big deal though ... most fans
can
handle it. I forget the mechanical stuff, but it takes something
like
3
times the amount of power to get something in motion than it does
to
maintain that motion.
Newton's Laws of Motion: force is redundant and subordinate to the
conservation of momentum.
Ipso facto, quid pro quo, illegitimi non carborundum. Carpe Diem.
:)
Burma Shave....
ROTFL!!!!
Damn - why am I feeling particularly briliant this morning?
Must be the coffee.... :)
Could it be that you were recently anointed temporary Lord of the
Realm?
Well, first of all, I am not Lord of The Realm - I am a mere Knight of
The Realm.
Secondly, Rule #1 on the Evil Overlord Instruction and Maintenance
Manual clearly states "Always make the victim of your world domination
scheme think that it was his or her idea."
-- - - - -

Four of the last 10 posts over there are snark attacks or nonsense from
Reggie.
.

Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, too bad you are not clever enough to respond without getting
binned..


I already responded to the only interesting new post over there, the one
on the model boats. I don't respond to ReggieCrap here...or there.


--
Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.

The only post from WAFA at Chucks Is a picture of mostly plastic used drain
plugs. I don't know. Maybe you think it's art. Maybe we can work it over for
you and do something imaginative with it. Has the cat got your tongue. you
usually have some smart ass comment to go along with your artwork. You are
slipping old man.

On Aug 8, 10:30*pm, "Jim" wrote:


The only post from WAFA at Chucks Is a picture of mostly plastic used drain
plugs. I don't know. Maybe you think it's art. Maybe we can work it over for
you and do something imaginative with it. Has the cat got your tongue. you
usually have some smart ass comment to go along with your artwork. You are
slipping old man.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ous/drain1.jpg

Yup, this is the latest in his art collection.. wafa... posted
without relevant comment either..

On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 16:47:29 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Aug 8, 11:39*am, hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:32:45 -0400, "Wheeler Jim"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:25:12 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:10:49 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Aug 8, 1:01 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...

Did you ever wonder why the heater fan in your car operates from
low-
medium-high, while a typical *box window fan operates from
High-medium-
low?
I was just thinking about that.
hmm....
Oh yeah, I never figured out how 8 "bits" could equal $1.00
either...
We will all try to put your mind at ease:

With the fans, the car is a DC motor and the window is AC.
Starting
torque is different.
As for the bits ..... isn't 2 "bits" a quarter?
But you can take a window fan and set it on "low" , plug it in, and it
starts up jjust fine, though...
True, but it's not particularly good for the motor. *Ideally, it should
start up on "high" to give max torque using all the windings of the
motor.
Then, it can be turned down. * Not a big deal though ... most fans can
handle it. * I forget the mechanical stuff, but it takes something like
3
times the amount of power to get something in motion than it does to
maintain that motion.
Newton's Laws of Motion: *force is redundant and subordinate to the
conservation of momentum.

Ipso facto, quid pro quo, illegitimi non carborundum. Carpe Diem. *:)
Burma Shave....
ROTFL!!!!

Damn - why am I feeling particularly briliant this morning?

Must be the coffee.... * :)
Could it be that you were recently anointed temporary Lord of the Realm?

Well, first of all, I am not Lord of The Realm - I am a mere Knight of
The Realm.

Secondly, Rule #1 on the *Evil Overlord Instruction and Maintenance
Manual clearly states "Always make the victim of your world domination
scheme think that it was his or her idea."

-- - - - -

Four of the last 10 posts over there are snark attacks or nonsense from
Reggie.
.

Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, too bad you are not clever enough to respond without getting
binned..

Harry has taken some beautiful photos of drain plugs. You really should go
look at them. The comments about his granddaughter's photo (or whoever,
whatever, whenever, if he took it, quibbling ****...) must have made an
impact. He's given thought to the proper use of lighting and backgrounds.
He's even using depth of field in imaginative ways.