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HK August 7th 08 07:41 PM

More abusive treatment by U.S. military of captives
 
U.S. segregates violent Iraqi prisoners in crates


From Barbara Starr
CNN Pentagon Correspondent

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. military is segregating violent Iraqi
prisoners in wooden crates that in some cases are not much bigger than
the prisoners.
The U.S. released three photos, including this one, of crates used to
hold detainees for up to 12 hours.


The military released photos of what it calls the "segregation boxes"
used in Iraq.

Three grainy black-and-white photos show the rudimentary structures of
wood and mesh. Some of the boxes are as small as 3 feet by 3 feet by 6
feet tall, according to military officials, although they did not
release a picture of a box that size.

The average Iraqi male is 5 feet 6 inches tall, according to the Iraqi
Ministry of Health. That leaves little room for a prisoner to move once
put in the detention box. See how a man might fit in the crate »

The photos were made public after a blogger filed a Freedom of
Information Act request in 2005.

The military said the boxes are humane and are checked every 15 minutes.
It said detainees, who stand in the boxes, are isolated for no more than
12 hours at a time.

"Someone in a segregation box is actually observed more than those
anywhere else," said Maj. Neal Fisher, a spokesman for Task Force 134,
the Marine unit in charge of detainees. "Their care and custody does not
change simply because they are in segregation." Video Watch why the
boxes raise human rights concerns »

A prisoner has never fallen ill or died because of being held in a
segregation box, Fisher said.

Human rights advocates say little is known about how the military treats
prisoners inside these boxes.

"There are concerns that they could be used in places where the
detainees are enclosed in extremely hot conditions. It is important to
know whether or not detainees are provided with food," said Jennifer
Daskel of Human Rights Watch.

Prisoners get food and water during their time in the boxes, Fisher said.

Since the abuses at Abu Ghraib , the U.S. has improved conditions for
the 20,000 prisoners there, the military said.

But life is tough behind the wire. Hundreds are still considered by the
military to be al Qaeda loyalists.


The U.S. military has released about 10,000 Iraqi prisoners and said it
hopes to release more. Recently, 20 foreign fighters were sent back to
Egypt and Saudi Arabia, the military said.

"We are able to capture threats to the Iraqi government and the
population, detain them, rehabilitate them, and 99 times out of 100
release them," Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said.


- - -

Yes sir, the Bush Administration is working hard to increase respect
around the world for this country.

D.Duck August 7th 08 07:58 PM

More abusive treatment by U.S. military of captives
 

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U.S. segregates violent Iraqi prisoners in crates


From Barbara Starr
CNN Pentagon Correspondent

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. military is segregating violent Iraqi
prisoners in wooden crates that in some cases are not much bigger than the
prisoners.
The U.S. released three photos, including this one, of crates used to hold
detainees for up to 12 hours.


The military released photos of what it calls the "segregation boxes" used
in Iraq.

Three grainy black-and-white photos show the rudimentary structures of
wood and mesh. Some of the boxes are as small as 3 feet by 3 feet by 6
feet tall, according to military officials, although they did not release
a picture of a box that size.

The average Iraqi male is 5 feet 6 inches tall, according to the Iraqi
Ministry of Health. That leaves little room for a prisoner to move once
put in the detention box. See how a man might fit in the crate »

The photos were made public after a blogger filed a Freedom of Information
Act request in 2005.

The military said the boxes are humane and are checked every 15 minutes.
It said detainees, who stand in the boxes, are isolated for no more than
12 hours at a time.

"Someone in a segregation box is actually observed more than those
anywhere else," said Maj. Neal Fisher, a spokesman for Task Force 134, the
Marine unit in charge of detainees. "Their care and custody does not
change simply because they are in segregation." Video Watch why the boxes
raise human rights concerns »

A prisoner has never fallen ill or died because of being held in a
segregation box, Fisher said.

Human rights advocates say little is known about how the military treats
prisoners inside these boxes.

"There are concerns that they could be used in places where the detainees
are enclosed in extremely hot conditions. It is important to know whether
or not detainees are provided with food," said Jennifer Daskel of Human
Rights Watch.

Prisoners get food and water during their time in the boxes, Fisher said.

Since the abuses at Abu Ghraib , the U.S. has improved conditions for the
20,000 prisoners there, the military said.

But life is tough behind the wire. Hundreds are still considered by the
military to be al Qaeda loyalists.


The U.S. military has released about 10,000 Iraqi prisoners and said it
hopes to release more. Recently, 20 foreign fighters were sent back to
Egypt and Saudi Arabia, the military said.

"We are able to capture threats to the Iraqi government and the
population, detain them, rehabilitate them, and 99 times out of 100
release them," Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said.


- - -

Yes sir, the Bush Administration is working hard to increase respect
around the world for this country.


About the same size as the "boxes" some of our troops come home in.



HK August 7th 08 08:02 PM

More abusive treatment by U.S. military of captives
 
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U.S. segregates violent Iraqi prisoners in crates


From Barbara Starr
CNN Pentagon Correspondent

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. military is segregating violent Iraqi
prisoners in wooden crates that in some cases are not much bigger than the
prisoners.
The U.S. released three photos, including this one, of crates used to hold
detainees for up to 12 hours.


The military released photos of what it calls the "segregation boxes" used
in Iraq.

Three grainy black-and-white photos show the rudimentary structures of
wood and mesh. Some of the boxes are as small as 3 feet by 3 feet by 6
feet tall, according to military officials, although they did not release
a picture of a box that size.

The average Iraqi male is 5 feet 6 inches tall, according to the Iraqi
Ministry of Health. That leaves little room for a prisoner to move once
put in the detention box. See how a man might fit in the crate »

The photos were made public after a blogger filed a Freedom of Information
Act request in 2005.

The military said the boxes are humane and are checked every 15 minutes.
It said detainees, who stand in the boxes, are isolated for no more than
12 hours at a time.

"Someone in a segregation box is actually observed more than those
anywhere else," said Maj. Neal Fisher, a spokesman for Task Force 134, the
Marine unit in charge of detainees. "Their care and custody does not
change simply because they are in segregation." Video Watch why the boxes
raise human rights concerns »

A prisoner has never fallen ill or died because of being held in a
segregation box, Fisher said.

Human rights advocates say little is known about how the military treats
prisoners inside these boxes.

"There are concerns that they could be used in places where the detainees
are enclosed in extremely hot conditions. It is important to know whether
or not detainees are provided with food," said Jennifer Daskel of Human
Rights Watch.

Prisoners get food and water during their time in the boxes, Fisher said.

Since the abuses at Abu Ghraib , the U.S. has improved conditions for the
20,000 prisoners there, the military said.

But life is tough behind the wire. Hundreds are still considered by the
military to be al Qaeda loyalists.


The U.S. military has released about 10,000 Iraqi prisoners and said it
hopes to release more. Recently, 20 foreign fighters were sent back to
Egypt and Saudi Arabia, the military said.

"We are able to capture threats to the Iraqi government and the
population, detain them, rehabilitate them, and 99 times out of 100
release them," Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said.


- - -

Yes sir, the Bush Administration is working hard to increase respect
around the world for this country.


About the same size as the "boxes" some of our troops come home in.




Yeah, well, you can blame that on the Bush Administration, too. Our
troops should never have been sent into Iraq.

D.Duck August 7th 08 08:12 PM

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U.S. segregates violent Iraqi prisoners in crates


From Barbara Starr
CNN Pentagon Correspondent

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. military is segregating violent Iraqi
prisoners in wooden crates that in some cases are not much bigger than
the prisoners.
The U.S. released three photos, including this one, of crates used to
hold detainees for up to 12 hours.


The military released photos of what it calls the "segregation boxes"
used in Iraq.

Three grainy black-and-white photos show the rudimentary structures of
wood and mesh. Some of the boxes are as small as 3 feet by 3 feet by 6
feet tall, according to military officials, although they did not
release a picture of a box that size.

The average Iraqi male is 5 feet 6 inches tall, according to the Iraqi
Ministry of Health. That leaves little room for a prisoner to move once
put in the detention box. See how a man might fit in the crate »

The photos were made public after a blogger filed a Freedom of
Information Act request in 2005.

The military said the boxes are humane and are checked every 15 minutes.
It said detainees, who stand in the boxes, are isolated for no more than
12 hours at a time.

"Someone in a segregation box is actually observed more than those
anywhere else," said Maj. Neal Fisher, a spokesman for Task Force 134,
the Marine unit in charge of detainees. "Their care and custody does not
change simply because they are in segregation." Video Watch why the
boxes raise human rights concerns »

A prisoner has never fallen ill or died because of being held in a
segregation box, Fisher said.

Human rights advocates say little is known about how the military treats
prisoners inside these boxes.

"There are concerns that they could be used in places where the
detainees are enclosed in extremely hot conditions. It is important to
know whether or not detainees are provided with food," said Jennifer
Daskel of Human Rights Watch.

Prisoners get food and water during their time in the boxes, Fisher
said.

Since the abuses at Abu Ghraib , the U.S. has improved conditions for
the 20,000 prisoners there, the military said.

But life is tough behind the wire. Hundreds are still considered by the
military to be al Qaeda loyalists.


The U.S. military has released about 10,000 Iraqi prisoners and said it
hopes to release more. Recently, 20 foreign fighters were sent back to
Egypt and Saudi Arabia, the military said.

"We are able to capture threats to the Iraqi government and the
population, detain them, rehabilitate them, and 99 times out of 100
release them," Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said.


- - -

Yes sir, the Bush Administration is working hard to increase respect
around the world for this country.


About the same size as the "boxes" some of our troops come home in.



Yeah, well, you can blame that on the Bush Administration, too. Our troops
should never have been sent into Iraq.


Nice spin.



HK August 7th 08 08:15 PM

More abusive treatment by U.S. military of captives
 
D.Duck wrote:
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U.S. segregates violent Iraqi prisoners in crates


From Barbara Starr
CNN Pentagon Correspondent

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. military is segregating violent Iraqi
prisoners in wooden crates that in some cases are not much bigger than
the prisoners.
The U.S. released three photos, including this one, of crates used to
hold detainees for up to 12 hours.


The military released photos of what it calls the "segregation boxes"
used in Iraq.

Three grainy black-and-white photos show the rudimentary structures of
wood and mesh. Some of the boxes are as small as 3 feet by 3 feet by 6
feet tall, according to military officials, although they did not
release a picture of a box that size.

The average Iraqi male is 5 feet 6 inches tall, according to the Iraqi
Ministry of Health. That leaves little room for a prisoner to move once
put in the detention box. See how a man might fit in the crate »

The photos were made public after a blogger filed a Freedom of
Information Act request in 2005.

The military said the boxes are humane and are checked every 15 minutes.
It said detainees, who stand in the boxes, are isolated for no more than
12 hours at a time.

"Someone in a segregation box is actually observed more than those
anywhere else," said Maj. Neal Fisher, a spokesman for Task Force 134,
the Marine unit in charge of detainees. "Their care and custody does not
change simply because they are in segregation." Video Watch why the
boxes raise human rights concerns »

A prisoner has never fallen ill or died because of being held in a
segregation box, Fisher said.

Human rights advocates say little is known about how the military treats
prisoners inside these boxes.

"There are concerns that they could be used in places where the
detainees are enclosed in extremely hot conditions. It is important to
know whether or not detainees are provided with food," said Jennifer
Daskel of Human Rights Watch.

Prisoners get food and water during their time in the boxes, Fisher
said.

Since the abuses at Abu Ghraib , the U.S. has improved conditions for
the 20,000 prisoners there, the military said.

But life is tough behind the wire. Hundreds are still considered by the
military to be al Qaeda loyalists.


The U.S. military has released about 10,000 Iraqi prisoners and said it
hopes to release more. Recently, 20 foreign fighters were sent back to
Egypt and Saudi Arabia, the military said.

"We are able to capture threats to the Iraqi government and the
population, detain them, rehabilitate them, and 99 times out of 100
release them," Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said.


- - -

Yes sir, the Bush Administration is working hard to increase respect
around the world for this country.
About the same size as the "boxes" some of our troops come home in.


Yeah, well, you can blame that on the Bush Administration, too. Our troops
should never have been sent into Iraq.


Nice spin.



Not at all. Bush sent our troops into Iraq under false pretenses. A new
book published this week indicates the Bush Administration's lies to get
us into the war were even greater than anyone realized.


JimH[_2_] August 7th 08 08:19 PM

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*U.S. segregates violent Iraqi prisoners in crates


From Barbara Starr
CNN Pentagon Correspondent


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. military is segregating violent Iraqi
prisoners in wooden crates that in some cases are not much bigger than
the prisoners.
The U.S. released three photos, including this one, of crates used to
hold detainees for up to 12 hours.


The military released photos of what it calls the "segregation boxes"
used in Iraq.


Three grainy black-and-white photos show the rudimentary structures of
wood and mesh. Some of the boxes are as small as 3 feet by 3 feet by 6
feet tall, according to military officials, although they did not
release a picture of a box that size.


The average Iraqi male is 5 feet 6 inches tall, according to the Iraqi
Ministry of Health. That leaves little room for a prisoner to move once
put in the detention box. See how a man might fit in the crate »


The photos were made public after a blogger filed a Freedom of
Information Act request in 2005.


The military said the boxes are humane and are checked every 15 minutes.
It said detainees, who stand in the boxes, are isolated for no more than
12 hours at a time.


"Someone in a segregation box is actually observed more than those
anywhere else," said Maj. Neal Fisher, a spokesman for Task Force 134,
the Marine unit in charge of detainees. "Their care and custody does not
change simply because they are in segregation." Video Watch why the
boxes raise human rights concerns »


A prisoner has never fallen ill or died because of being held in a
segregation box, Fisher said.


Human rights advocates say little is known about how the military treats
prisoners inside these boxes.


"There are concerns that they could be used in places where the
detainees are enclosed in extremely hot conditions. It is important to
know whether or not detainees are provided with food," said Jennifer
Daskel of Human Rights Watch.


Prisoners get food and water during their time in the boxes, Fisher
said.


Since the abuses at Abu Ghraib , the U.S. has improved conditions for
the 20,000 prisoners there, the military said.


But life is tough behind the wire. Hundreds are still considered by the
military to be al Qaeda loyalists.


The U.S. military has released about 10,000 Iraqi prisoners and said it
hopes to release more. Recently, 20 foreign fighters were sent back to
Egypt and Saudi Arabia, the military said.


"We are able to capture threats to the Iraqi government and the
population, detain them, rehabilitate them, and 99 times out of 100
release them," Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said.


- - -


Yes sir, the Bush Administration is working hard to increase respect
around the world for this country.
About the same size as the "boxes" some of our troops come home in.


Yeah, well, you can blame that on the Bush Administration, too. Our troops
should never have been sent into Iraq.


Nice spin.


Not at all. Bush sent our troops into Iraq under false pretenses. A new
book published this week indicates the Bush Administration's lies to get
us into the war were even greater than anyone realized.



Here we go again.

HK August 7th 08 08:22 PM

More abusive treatment by U.S. military of captives
 
JimH wrote:
On Aug 7, 3:15 pm, hk wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
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D.Duck wrote:
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U.S. segregates violent Iraqi prisoners in crates
From Barbara Starr
CNN Pentagon Correspondent
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. military is segregating violent Iraqi
prisoners in wooden crates that in some cases are not much bigger than
the prisoners.
The U.S. released three photos, including this one, of crates used to
hold detainees for up to 12 hours.
The military released photos of what it calls the "segregation boxes"
used in Iraq.
Three grainy black-and-white photos show the rudimentary structures of
wood and mesh. Some of the boxes are as small as 3 feet by 3 feet by 6
feet tall, according to military officials, although they did not
release a picture of a box that size.
The average Iraqi male is 5 feet 6 inches tall, according to the Iraqi
Ministry of Health. That leaves little room for a prisoner to move once
put in the detention box. See how a man might fit in the crate »
The photos were made public after a blogger filed a Freedom of
Information Act request in 2005.
The military said the boxes are humane and are checked every 15 minutes.
It said detainees, who stand in the boxes, are isolated for no more than
12 hours at a time.
"Someone in a segregation box is actually observed more than those
anywhere else," said Maj. Neal Fisher, a spokesman for Task Force 134,
the Marine unit in charge of detainees. "Their care and custody does not
change simply because they are in segregation." Video Watch why the
boxes raise human rights concerns »
A prisoner has never fallen ill or died because of being held in a
segregation box, Fisher said.
Human rights advocates say little is known about how the military treats
prisoners inside these boxes.
"There are concerns that they could be used in places where the
detainees are enclosed in extremely hot conditions. It is important to
know whether or not detainees are provided with food," said Jennifer
Daskel of Human Rights Watch.
Prisoners get food and water during their time in the boxes, Fisher
said.
Since the abuses at Abu Ghraib , the U.S. has improved conditions for
the 20,000 prisoners there, the military said.
But life is tough behind the wire. Hundreds are still considered by the
military to be al Qaeda loyalists.
The U.S. military has released about 10,000 Iraqi prisoners and said it
hopes to release more. Recently, 20 foreign fighters were sent back to
Egypt and Saudi Arabia, the military said.
"We are able to capture threats to the Iraqi government and the
population, detain them, rehabilitate them, and 99 times out of 100
release them," Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said.
- - -
Yes sir, the Bush Administration is working hard to increase respect
around the world for this country.
About the same size as the "boxes" some of our troops come home in.
Yeah, well, you can blame that on the Bush Administration, too. Our troops
should never have been sent into Iraq.
Nice spin.

Not at all. Bush sent our troops into Iraq under false pretenses. A new
book published this week indicates the Bush Administration's lies to get
us into the war were even greater than anyone realized.



Here we go again.



Not at all. It's just that the evidence against Bush is mounting.

BTW, the Iraqis are insisting upon a time table for withdrawal of our
troops. I guess McCain will have to flop...again.

JimH[_2_] August 7th 08 08:31 PM

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On Aug 7, 3:22*pm, hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 7, 3:15 pm, hk wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
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*U.S. segregates violent Iraqi prisoners in crates
From Barbara Starr
CNN Pentagon Correspondent
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. military is segregating violent Iraqi
prisoners in wooden crates that in some cases are not much bigger than
the prisoners.
The U.S. released three photos, including this one, of crates used to
hold detainees for up to 12 hours.
The military released photos of what it calls the "segregation boxes"
used in Iraq.
Three grainy black-and-white photos show the rudimentary structures of
wood and mesh. Some of the boxes are as small as 3 feet by 3 feet by 6
feet tall, according to military officials, although they did not
release a picture of a box that size.
The average Iraqi male is 5 feet 6 inches tall, according to the Iraqi
Ministry of Health. That leaves little room for a prisoner to move once
put in the detention box. See how a man might fit in the crate »
The photos were made public after a blogger filed a Freedom of
Information Act request in 2005.
The military said the boxes are humane and are checked every 15 minutes.
It said detainees, who stand in the boxes, are isolated for no more than
12 hours at a time.
"Someone in a segregation box is actually observed more than those
anywhere else," said Maj. Neal Fisher, a spokesman for Task Force 134,
the Marine unit in charge of detainees. "Their care and custody does not
change simply because they are in segregation." Video Watch why the
boxes raise human rights concerns »
A prisoner has never fallen ill or died because of being held in a
segregation box, Fisher said.
Human rights advocates say little is known about how the military treats
prisoners inside these boxes.
"There are concerns that they could be used in places where the
detainees are enclosed in extremely hot conditions. It is important to
know whether or not detainees are provided with food," said Jennifer
Daskel of Human Rights Watch.
Prisoners get food and water during their time in the boxes, Fisher
said.
Since the abuses at Abu Ghraib , the U.S. has improved conditions for
the 20,000 prisoners there, the military said.
But life is tough behind the wire. Hundreds are still considered by the
military to be al Qaeda loyalists.
The U.S. military has released about 10,000 Iraqi prisoners and said it
hopes to release more. Recently, 20 foreign fighters were sent back to
Egypt and Saudi Arabia, the military said.
"We are able to capture threats to the Iraqi government and the
population, detain them, rehabilitate them, and 99 times out of 100
release them," Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said.
- - -
Yes sir, the Bush Administration is working hard to increase respect
around the world for this country.
About the same size as the "boxes" some of our troops come home in.
Yeah, well, you can blame that on the Bush Administration, too. Our troops
should never have been sent into Iraq.
Nice spin.
Not at all. Bush sent our troops into Iraq under false pretenses. A new
book published this week indicates the Bush Administration's lies to get
us into the war were even greater than anyone realized.


Here we go again.


Not at all. It's just that the evidence against Bush is mounting.

BTW, the Iraqis are insisting upon a time table for withdrawal of our
troops. I guess McCain will have to flop...again.


How many times can you argue the same lies?

JimH[_2_] August 7th 08 08:40 PM

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On Aug 7, 3:31*pm, JimH wrote:
On Aug 7, 3:22*pm, hk wrote:



JimH wrote:
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D.Duck wrote:
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*U.S. segregates violent Iraqi prisoners in crates
From Barbara Starr
CNN Pentagon Correspondent
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. military is segregating violent Iraqi
prisoners in wooden crates that in some cases are not much bigger than
the prisoners.
The U.S. released three photos, including this one, of crates used to
hold detainees for up to 12 hours.
The military released photos of what it calls the "segregation boxes"
used in Iraq.
Three grainy black-and-white photos show the rudimentary structures of
wood and mesh. Some of the boxes are as small as 3 feet by 3 feet by 6
feet tall, according to military officials, although they did not
release a picture of a box that size.
The average Iraqi male is 5 feet 6 inches tall, according to the Iraqi
Ministry of Health. That leaves little room for a prisoner to move once
put in the detention box. See how a man might fit in the crate »
The photos were made public after a blogger filed a Freedom of
Information Act request in 2005.
The military said the boxes are humane and are checked every 15 minutes.
It said detainees, who stand in the boxes, are isolated for no more than
12 hours at a time.
"Someone in a segregation box is actually observed more than those
anywhere else," said Maj. Neal Fisher, a spokesman for Task Force 134,
the Marine unit in charge of detainees. "Their care and custody does not
change simply because they are in segregation." Video Watch why the
boxes raise human rights concerns »
A prisoner has never fallen ill or died because of being held in a
segregation box, Fisher said.
Human rights advocates say little is known about how the military treats
prisoners inside these boxes.
"There are concerns that they could be used in places where the
detainees are enclosed in extremely hot conditions. It is important to
know whether or not detainees are provided with food," said Jennifer
Daskel of Human Rights Watch.
Prisoners get food and water during their time in the boxes, Fisher
said.
Since the abuses at Abu Ghraib , the U.S. has improved conditions for
the 20,000 prisoners there, the military said.
But life is tough behind the wire. Hundreds are still considered by the
military to be al Qaeda loyalists.
The U.S. military has released about 10,000 Iraqi prisoners and said it
hopes to release more. Recently, 20 foreign fighters were sent back to
Egypt and Saudi Arabia, the military said.
"We are able to capture threats to the Iraqi government and the
population, detain them, rehabilitate them, and 99 times out of 100
release them," Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said.
- - -
Yes sir, the Bush Administration is working hard to increase respect
around the world for this country.
About the same size as the "boxes" some of our troops come home in.


HK August 7th 08 08:40 PM

More abusive treatment by U.S. military of captives
 
JimH wrote:
On Aug 7, 3:22 pm, hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 7, 3:15 pm, hk wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
D.Duck wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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U.S. segregates violent Iraqi prisoners in crates
From Barbara Starr
CNN Pentagon Correspondent
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. military is segregating violent Iraqi
prisoners in wooden crates that in some cases are not much bigger than
the prisoners.
The U.S. released three photos, including this one, of crates used to
hold detainees for up to 12 hours.
The military released photos of what it calls the "segregation boxes"
used in Iraq.
Three grainy black-and-white photos show the rudimentary structures of
wood and mesh. Some of the boxes are as small as 3 feet by 3 feet by 6
feet tall, according to military officials, although they did not
release a picture of a box that size.
The average Iraqi male is 5 feet 6 inches tall, according to the Iraqi
Ministry of Health. That leaves little room for a prisoner to move once
put in the detention box. See how a man might fit in the crate »
The photos were made public after a blogger filed a Freedom of
Information Act request in 2005.
The military said the boxes are humane and are checked every 15 minutes.
It said detainees, who stand in the boxes, are isolated for no more than
12 hours at a time.
"Someone in a segregation box is actually observed more than those
anywhere else," said Maj. Neal Fisher, a spokesman for Task Force 134,
the Marine unit in charge of detainees. "Their care and custody does not
change simply because they are in segregation." Video Watch why the
boxes raise human rights concerns »
A prisoner has never fallen ill or died because of being held in a
segregation box, Fisher said.
Human rights advocates say little is known about how the military treats
prisoners inside these boxes.
"There are concerns that they could be used in places where the
detainees are enclosed in extremely hot conditions. It is important to
know whether or not detainees are provided with food," said Jennifer
Daskel of Human Rights Watch.
Prisoners get food and water during their time in the boxes, Fisher
said.
Since the abuses at Abu Ghraib , the U.S. has improved conditions for
the 20,000 prisoners there, the military said.
But life is tough behind the wire. Hundreds are still considered by the
military to be al Qaeda loyalists.
The U.S. military has released about 10,000 Iraqi prisoners and said it
hopes to release more. Recently, 20 foreign fighters were sent back to
Egypt and Saudi Arabia, the military said.
"We are able to capture threats to the Iraqi government and the
population, detain them, rehabilitate them, and 99 times out of 100
release them," Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said.
- - -
Yes sir, the Bush Administration is working hard to increase respect
around the world for this country.
About the same size as the "boxes" some of our troops come home in.
Yeah, well, you can blame that on the Bush Administration, too. Our troops
should never have been sent into Iraq.
Nice spin.
Not at all. Bush sent our troops into Iraq under false pretenses. A new
book published this week indicates the Bush Administration's lies to get
us into the war were even greater than anyone realized.
Here we go again.

Not at all. It's just that the evidence against Bush is mounting.

BTW, the Iraqis are insisting upon a time table for withdrawal of our
troops. I guess McCain will have to flop...again.


How many times can you argue the same lies?


I'm sorry, Jim, but just this week another book came out on Bush's lies
regarding Iraq. The Administration of course is in deep denial, but it
doesn't matter, because the Administration has no credibility.


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HK August 7th 08 08:40 PM

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JimH wrote:
On Aug 7, 3:31 pm, JimH wrote:
On Aug 7, 3:22 pm, hk wrote:



JimH wrote:
On Aug 7, 3:15 pm, hk wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
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D.Duck wrote:
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U.S. segregates violent Iraqi prisoners in crates
From Barbara Starr
CNN Pentagon Correspondent
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. military is segregating violent Iraqi
prisoners in wooden crates that in some cases are not much bigger than
the prisoners.
The U.S. released three photos, including this one, of crates used to
hold detainees for up to 12 hours.
The military released photos of what it calls the "segregation boxes"
used in Iraq.
Three grainy black-and-white photos show the rudimentary structures of
wood and mesh. Some of the boxes are as small as 3 feet by 3 feet by 6
feet tall, according to military officials, although they did not
release a picture of a box that size.
The average Iraqi male is 5 feet 6 inches tall, according to the Iraqi
Ministry of Health. That leaves little room for a prisoner to move once
put in the detention box. See how a man might fit in the crate »
The photos were made public after a blogger filed a Freedom of
Information Act request in 2005.
The military said the boxes are humane and are checked every 15 minutes.
It said detainees, who stand in the boxes, are isolated for no more than
12 hours at a time.
"Someone in a segregation box is actually observed more than those
anywhere else," said Maj. Neal Fisher, a spokesman for Task Force 134,
the Marine unit in charge of detainees. "Their care and custody does not
change simply because they are in segregation." Video Watch why the
boxes raise human rights concerns »
A prisoner has never fallen ill or died because of being held in a
segregation box, Fisher said.
Human rights advocates say little is known about how the military treats
prisoners inside these boxes.
"There are concerns that they could be used in places where the
detainees are enclosed in extremely hot conditions. It is important to
know whether or not detainees are provided with food," said Jennifer
Daskel of Human Rights Watch.
Prisoners get food and water during their time in the boxes, Fisher
said.
Since the abuses at Abu Ghraib , the U.S. has improved conditions for
the 20,000 prisoners there, the military said.
But life is tough behind the wire. Hundreds are still considered by the
military to be al Qaeda loyalists.
The U.S. military has released about 10,000 Iraqi prisoners and said it
hopes to release more. Recently, 20 foreign fighters were sent back to
Egypt and Saudi Arabia, the military said.
"We are able to capture threats to the Iraqi government and the
population, detain them, rehabilitate them, and 99 times out of 100
release them," Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said.
- - -
Yes sir, the Bush Administration is working hard to increase respect
around the world for this country.
About the same size as the "boxes" some of our troops come home in.
Yeah, well, you can blame that on the Bush Administration, too. Our troops
should never have been sent into Iraq.
Nice spin.
Not at all. Bush sent our troops into Iraq under false pretenses. A new
book published this week indicates the Bush Administration's lies to get
us into the war were even greater than anyone realized.
Here we go again.
Not at all. It's just that the evidence against Bush is mounting.
BTW, the Iraqis are insisting upon a time table for withdrawal of our
troops. I guess McCain will have to flop...again.

How many times can you argue the same lies?


Besides............Bush is not running for President. ;-)



McBush is...




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Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. LLC August 7th 08 09:41 PM

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T. Bone Pickeral V, ESQ, MD, PhD, JD, Inc, LLC, TM wrote:
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:55:23 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
LLC" wrote:

I just got in from 2 days on the lake, rafting up with 2 other boat. We
had some great poker games, and I actually came home with more money
than I left with


Of course you did.


Yes, that is exactly what i said. ;)

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. LLC August 7th 08 09:42 PM

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hk wrote:
T. Bone Pickeral V, ESQ, MD, PhD, JD, Inc, LLC, TM wrote:
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:55:23 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
LLC" wrote:

I just got in from 2 days on the lake, rafting up with 2 other boat.
We had some great poker games, and I actually came home with more
money than I left with


Of course you did.



Reggie and Loogie went up the hill,
Each of them had a quarter.
Reggie came done with fifty cents.
They didn't go up there for water.


Reggie doesn't have a boat.



I still want a Nikon D3, are you willing to make a little wager?

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. LLC August 7th 08 09:45 PM

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T. Bone Pickeral V, ESQ, MD, PhD, JD, Inc, LLC, TM wrote:
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:55:23 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
LLC" wrote:

I just got in from 2 days on the lake, rafting up with 2 other boat. We
had some great poker games, and I actually came home with more money
than I left with


Of course you did.


by the way, TBone, do you have any recommendations for the next great
energy boom?

Lord Sir T. Bone Pickeral V, ESQ, MD, PhD, JD, Inc, LLC, TM, Knight of The Realm August 7th 08 10:09 PM

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On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:41:23 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
LLC" wrote:

T. Bone Pickeral V, ESQ, MD, PhD, JD, Inc, LLC, TM wrote:
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:55:23 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
LLC" wrote:

I just got in from 2 days on the lake, rafting up with 2 other boat. We
had some great poker games, and I actually came home with more money
than I left with


Of course you did.


Yes, that is exactly what i said. ;)


Of course.

Lord Sir T. Bone Pickeral V, ESQ, MD, PhD, JD, Inc, LLC, TM, Knight of The Realm August 7th 08 10:09 PM

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On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:45:02 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
LLC" wrote:

T. Bone Pickeral V, ESQ, MD, PhD, JD, Inc, LLC, TM wrote:
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:55:23 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
LLC" wrote:

I just got in from 2 days on the lake, rafting up with 2 other boat. We
had some great poker games, and I actually came home with more money
than I left with


Of course you did.


by the way, TBone, do you have any recommendations for the next great
energy boom?


Flatulence.

BAR[_2_] August 7th 08 10:10 PM

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Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. LLC wrote:
T. Bone Pickeral V, ESQ, MD, PhD, JD, Inc, LLC, TM wrote:
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:55:23 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
LLC" wrote:

I just got in from 2 days on the lake, rafting up with 2 other boat.
We had some great poker games, and I actually came home with more
money than I left with


Of course you did.


by the way, TBone, do you have any recommendations for the next great
energy boom?


The one TBone does or does not own an interest in?


Sir Reginald P. Smithers III The Great, Esq. LLC August 7th 08 10:14 PM

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Lord Sir T. Bone Pickeral V, ESQ, MD, PhD, JD, Inc, LLC, TM, Knight of
The Realm wrote:
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:41:23 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
LLC" wrote:

T. Bone Pickeral V, ESQ, MD, PhD, JD, Inc, LLC, TM wrote:
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:55:23 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
LLC" wrote:

I just got in from 2 days on the lake, rafting up with 2 other boat. We
had some great poker games, and I actually came home with more money
than I left with
Of course you did.

Yes, that is exactly what i said. ;)


Of course.


What part of that message do you not understand? Don't mess with me, or
I might have to get medieval on your hiney.

Lord Sir T. Bone Pickeral V, ESQ, MD, PhD, JD, Inc, LLC, TM, Knight of The Realm August 7th 08 10:24 PM

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On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:14:52 -0400, "Sir Reginald P. Smithers III The
Great, Esq. LLC" wrote:

Lord Sir T. Bone Pickeral V, ESQ, MD, PhD, JD, Inc, LLC, TM, Knight of
The Realm wrote:
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:41:23 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
LLC" wrote:

T. Bone Pickeral V, ESQ, MD, PhD, JD, Inc, LLC, TM wrote:
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:55:23 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
LLC" wrote:

I just got in from 2 days on the lake, rafting up with 2 other boat. We
had some great poker games, and I actually came home with more money
than I left with
Of course you did.
Yes, that is exactly what i said. ;)


Of course.


What part of that message do you not understand? Don't mess with me, or
I might have to get medieval on your hiney.


Promise?

Don White August 7th 08 10:30 PM

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"Lord Sir T. Bone Pickeral V, ESQ, MD, PhD, JD, Inc, LLC, TM, Knight of The
Realm" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:45:02 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
LLC" wrote:

T. Bone Pickeral V, ESQ, MD, PhD, JD, Inc, LLC, TM wrote:
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:55:23 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
LLC" wrote:

I just got in from 2 days on the lake, rafting up with 2 other boat.
We
had some great poker games, and I actually came home with more money
than I left with

Of course you did.


by the way, TBone, do you have any recommendations for the next great
energy boom?


Flatulence.


Say what? Fla Jim could become a national treasure.



HK August 7th 08 10:38 PM

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Don White wrote:
"Lord Sir T. Bone Pickeral V, ESQ, MD, PhD, JD, Inc, LLC, TM, Knight of The
Realm" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:45:02 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
LLC" wrote:

T. Bone Pickeral V, ESQ, MD, PhD, JD, Inc, LLC, TM wrote:
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:55:23 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
LLC" wrote:

I just got in from 2 days on the lake, rafting up with 2 other boat.
We
had some great poker games, and I actually came home with more money
than I left with
Of course you did.
by the way, TBone, do you have any recommendations for the next great
energy boom?

Flatulence.


Say what? Fla Jim could become a national treasure.



A replenishing gasbag?




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Lord Sir T. Bone Pickeral V, ESQ, MD, PhD, JD, Inc, LLC, TM, Knight of The Realm August 7th 08 10:38 PM

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wrote:


"Lord Sir T. Bone Pickeral V, ESQ, MD, PhD, JD, Inc, LLC, TM, Knight of The
Realm" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:45:02 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
LLC" wrote:

T. Bone Pickeral V, ESQ, MD, PhD, JD, Inc, LLC, TM wrote:
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:55:23 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
LLC" wrote:

I just got in from 2 days on the lake, rafting up with 2 other boat.
We
had some great poker games, and I actually came home with more money
than I left with

Of course you did.

by the way, TBone, do you have any recommendations for the next great
energy boom?


Flatulence.


Say what? Fla Jim could become a national treasure.


I have it on good authority that Canadian Bacon has better gas
producing components than any other source.

Jim August 7th 08 10:40 PM

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"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Lord Sir T. Bone Pickeral V, ESQ, MD, PhD, JD, Inc, LLC, TM, Knight of
The Realm" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:45:02 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
LLC" wrote:

T. Bone Pickeral V, ESQ, MD, PhD, JD, Inc, LLC, TM wrote:
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:55:23 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
LLC" wrote:

I just got in from 2 days on the lake, rafting up with 2 other boat.
We
had some great poker games, and I actually came home with more money
than I left with

Of course you did.

by the way, TBone, do you have any recommendations for the next great
energy boom?


Flatulence.


Say what? Fla Jim could become a national treasure.

Treasure this, stooge.


Jim August 7th 08 10:46 PM

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"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Lord Sir T. Bone Pickeral V, ESQ, MD, PhD, JD, Inc, LLC, TM, Knight of
The Realm" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:45:02 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
LLC" wrote:

T. Bone Pickeral V, ESQ, MD, PhD, JD, Inc, LLC, TM wrote:
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:55:23 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
LLC" wrote:

I just got in from 2 days on the lake, rafting up with 2 other boat.
We
had some great poker games, and I actually came home with more money
than I left with

Of course you did.

by the way, TBone, do you have any recommendations for the next great
energy boom?


Flatulence.


Say what? Fla Jim could become a national treasure.

Treasure this http://www.poopprank.com/fart-sounds/fart_wav.htm


Eisboch August 7th 08 11:03 PM

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I'm sorry, Jim, but just this week another book came out on Bush's lies
regarding Iraq. The Administration of course is in deep denial, but it
doesn't matter, because the Administration has no credibility.




Good grief Harry. A guy writes a book (I saw the reviews) and claims
knowledge that nobody else has and, to you, it is gospel because it happens
to support your viewpoint?

There was also a well researched documentary on contemporary Middle East
history this week on the History Channel (International, I think), that
offers serious evidence of Sadam's association with what ultimately became
Al Qaeda .... and it went back many years before 9/11. I don't take it
for gospel either, but it's worth thinking about.

Eisboch



Eisboch August 7th 08 11:04 PM

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Are you two having a lovers quarrel?


snerk



HK August 7th 08 11:05 PM

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I'm sorry, Jim, but just this week another book came out on Bush's lies
regarding Iraq. The Administration of course is in deep denial, but it
doesn't matter, because the Administration has no credibility.




Good grief Harry. A guy writes a book (I saw the reviews) and claims
knowledge that nobody else has and, to you, it is gospel because it happens
to support your viewpoint?

There was also a well researched documentary on contemporary Middle East
history this week on the History Channel (International, I think), that
offers serious evidence of Sadam's association with what ultimately became
Al Qaeda .... and it went back many years before 9/11. I don't take it
for gospel either, but it's worth thinking about.

Eisboch




You're not following the uproar the book has created, and the
confirmations of its revelations. I'm sure the book is being trashed on
Fake, Er, Faux, er, Fox Noise, er, News, though.





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HK August 7th 08 11:05 PM

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Are you two having a lovers quarrel?


snerk




?



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Eisboch August 7th 08 11:12 PM

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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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I'm sorry, Jim, but just this week another book came out on Bush's lies
regarding Iraq. The Administration of course is in deep denial, but it
doesn't matter, because the Administration has no credibility.




Good grief Harry. A guy writes a book (I saw the reviews) and claims
knowledge that nobody else has and, to you, it is gospel because it
happens to support your viewpoint?

There was also a well researched documentary on contemporary Middle East
history this week on the History Channel (International, I think), that
offers serious evidence of Sadam's association with what ultimately
became Al Qaeda .... and it went back many years before 9/11. I don't
take it for gospel either, but it's worth thinking about.

Eisboch



You're not following the uproar the book has created, and the
confirmations of its revelations. I'm sure the book is being trashed on
Fake, Er, Faux, er, Fox Noise, er, News, though.





I am watching ..... and listening. I see a whole bunch of noise, spin and
condemnations, but where's the "confirmation" you speak of. All I hear is
others saying, like you, "It is confirmed". Yet ..... were is the
confirmation? What have I missed?

Eisboch



HK August 7th 08 11:19 PM

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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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I'm sorry, Jim, but just this week another book came out on Bush's lies
regarding Iraq. The Administration of course is in deep denial, but it
doesn't matter, because the Administration has no credibility.



Good grief Harry. A guy writes a book (I saw the reviews) and claims
knowledge that nobody else has and, to you, it is gospel because it
happens to support your viewpoint?

There was also a well researched documentary on contemporary Middle East
history this week on the History Channel (International, I think), that
offers serious evidence of Sadam's association with what ultimately
became Al Qaeda .... and it went back many years before 9/11. I don't
take it for gospel either, but it's worth thinking about.

Eisboch


You're not following the uproar the book has created, and the
confirmations of its revelations. I'm sure the book is being trashed on
Fake, Er, Faux, er, Fox Noise, er, News, though.





I am watching ..... and listening. I see a whole bunch of noise, spin and
condemnations, but where's the "confirmation" you speak of. All I hear is
others saying, like you, "It is confirmed". Yet ..... were is the
confirmation? What have I missed?

Eisboch



Hopefully, there will be hearings...right after the elections.


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Eisboch August 7th 08 11:25 PM

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"hk" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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I'm sorry, Jim, but just this week another book came out on Bush's
lies regarding Iraq. The Administration of course is in deep denial,
but it doesn't matter, because the Administration has no credibility.



Good grief Harry. A guy writes a book (I saw the reviews) and claims
knowledge that nobody else has and, to you, it is gospel because it
happens to support your viewpoint?

There was also a well researched documentary on contemporary Middle
East history this week on the History Channel (International, I think),
that offers serious evidence of Sadam's association with what
ultimately became Al Qaeda .... and it went back many years before
9/11. I don't take it for gospel either, but it's worth thinking
about.

Eisboch

You're not following the uproar the book has created, and the
confirmations of its revelations. I'm sure the book is being trashed on
Fake, Er, Faux, er, Fox Noise, er, News, though.





I am watching ..... and listening. I see a whole bunch of noise, spin
and condemnations, but where's the "confirmation" you speak of. All I
hear is others saying, like you, "It is confirmed". Yet ..... were is
the confirmation? What have I missed?

Eisboch


Hopefully, there will be hearings...right after the elections.



Ahhhhh...... "right after the elections" ......

How about some confirmation from the author ..... like ..... right now!

I have an open mind.

Eisboch


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HK August 7th 08 11:28 PM

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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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I'm sorry, Jim, but just this week another book came out on Bush's
lies regarding Iraq. The Administration of course is in deep denial,
but it doesn't matter, because the Administration has no credibility.


Good grief Harry. A guy writes a book (I saw the reviews) and claims
knowledge that nobody else has and, to you, it is gospel because it
happens to support your viewpoint?

There was also a well researched documentary on contemporary Middle
East history this week on the History Channel (International, I think),
that offers serious evidence of Sadam's association with what
ultimately became Al Qaeda .... and it went back many years before
9/11. I don't take it for gospel either, but it's worth thinking
about.

Eisboch
You're not following the uproar the book has created, and the
confirmations of its revelations. I'm sure the book is being trashed on
Fake, Er, Faux, er, Fox Noise, er, News, though.




I am watching ..... and listening. I see a whole bunch of noise, spin
and condemnations, but where's the "confirmation" you speak of. All I
hear is others saying, like you, "It is confirmed". Yet ..... were is
the confirmation? What have I missed?

Eisboch

Hopefully, there will be hearings...right after the elections.



Ahhhhh...... "right after the elections" ......

How about some confirmation from the author ..... like ..... right now!

I have an open mind.

Eisboch

--
Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.





The author has been on TV interview shows every day...just saw him a few
minutes ago on MSNBC...



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Eisboch wrote:
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I'm sorry, Jim, but just this week another book came out on Bush's
lies regarding Iraq. The Administration of course is in deep denial,
but it doesn't matter, because the Administration has no credibility.


Good grief Harry. * A guy writes a book *(I saw the reviews) and claims
knowledge that nobody else has and, to you, it is gospel because it
happens to support your viewpoint?


There was also a well researched documentary on contemporary Middle
East history this week on the History Channel (International, I think),
that offers serious evidence of Sadam's association with what
ultimately became Al Qaeda .... and it went back many years before
9/11. * *I don't take it for gospel either, but it's worth thinking
about.


Eisboch
You're not following the uproar the book has created, and the
confirmations of its revelations. I'm sure the book is being trashed on
Fake, Er, Faux, er, Fox Noise, er, News, though.


I am watching ..... and listening. * *I see a whole bunch of noise, spin
and condemnations, but where's the "confirmation" you speak of. All I
hear is others saying, like you, "It is confirmed". * Yet ..... were is
the confirmation? * What have I missed?


Eisboch
Hopefully, there will be hearings...right after the elections.


Ahhhhh...... *"right after the elections" ......


How about some confirmation from the author ..... like ..... right now!


I have an open mind.


Eisboch


--
Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.


The author has been on TV interview shows every day...just saw him a few
minutes ago on MSNBC...

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MSNBC LOL.... the most untrusted mainstream media outlet besided the
New York Lies... LOL...

HK August 7th 08 11:51 PM

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On Aug 7, 6:28 pm, hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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I'm sorry, Jim, but just this week another book came out on Bush's
lies regarding Iraq. The Administration of course is in deep denial,
but it doesn't matter, because the Administration has no credibility.
Good grief Harry. A guy writes a book (I saw the reviews) and claims
knowledge that nobody else has and, to you, it is gospel because it
happens to support your viewpoint?
There was also a well researched documentary on contemporary Middle
East history this week on the History Channel (International, I think),
that offers serious evidence of Sadam's association with what
ultimately became Al Qaeda .... and it went back many years before
9/11. I don't take it for gospel either, but it's worth thinking
about.
Eisboch
You're not following the uproar the book has created, and the
confirmations of its revelations. I'm sure the book is being trashed on
Fake, Er, Faux, er, Fox Noise, er, News, though.
I am watching ..... and listening. I see a whole bunch of noise, spin
and condemnations, but where's the "confirmation" you speak of. All I
hear is others saying, like you, "It is confirmed". Yet ..... were is
the confirmation? What have I missed?
Eisboch
Hopefully, there will be hearings...right after the elections.
Ahhhhh...... "right after the elections" ......
How about some confirmation from the author ..... like ..... right now!
I have an open mind.
Eisboch
--
Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.

The author has been on TV interview shows every day...just saw him a few
minutes ago on MSNBC...

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- Show quoted text -


MSNBC LOL.... the most untrusted mainstream media outlet besided the
New York Lies... LOL...



Politics is way over your abilities, Scotty. Best stick to the other
subjects you know little about, such as computer networking, boat
building, and keeping children out of harm's way.

--
Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.

[email protected] August 7th 08 11:57 PM

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On Aug 7, 6:51*pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 7, 6:28 pm, hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
om...
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
news:jrOdnbnacowu7AbVnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@comcast .com...
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
news:wrqdnTqSrY0G0gbVnZ2dnUVZ_srinZ2d@comca st.com...
I'm sorry, Jim, but just this week another book came out on Bush's
lies regarding Iraq. The Administration of course is in deep denial,
but it doesn't matter, because the Administration has no credibility.
Good grief Harry. * A guy writes a book *(I saw the reviews) and claims
knowledge that nobody else has and, to you, it is gospel because it
happens to support your viewpoint?
There was also a well researched documentary on contemporary Middle
East history this week on the History Channel (International, I think),
that offers serious evidence of Sadam's association with what
ultimately became Al Qaeda .... and it went back many years before
9/11. * *I don't take it for gospel either, but it's worth thinking
about.
Eisboch
You're not following the uproar the book has created, and the
confirmations of its revelations. I'm sure the book is being trashed on
Fake, Er, Faux, er, Fox Noise, er, News, though.
I am watching ..... and listening. * *I see a whole bunch of noise, spin
and condemnations, but where's the "confirmation" you speak of. All I
hear is others saying, like you, "It is confirmed". * Yet ..... were is
the confirmation? * What have I missed?
Eisboch
Hopefully, there will be hearings...right after the elections.
Ahhhhh...... *"right after the elections" ......
How about some confirmation from the author ..... like ..... right now!
I have an open mind.
Eisboch
--
Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.
The author has been on TV interview shows every day...just saw him a few
minutes ago on MSNBC...


--
Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


MSNBC * LOL.... the most untrusted mainstream media outlet besided the
New York Lies... LOL...


Politics is way over your abilities, Scotty. Best stick to the other
subjects you know little about, such as computer networking, boat
building, and keeping children out of harm's way.


You have proven over time that you know little more than how to
google, and how to lie.. that's what you do best, carry on. It won't
be long now and your bull**** will be no more than a bad memory...

[email protected] August 8th 08 12:00 AM

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On Aug 7, 6:51*pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 7, 6:28 pm, hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
om...
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
news:jrOdnbnacowu7AbVnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@comcast .com...
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
news:wrqdnTqSrY0G0gbVnZ2dnUVZ_srinZ2d@comca st.com...
I'm sorry, Jim, but just this week another book came out on Bush's
lies regarding Iraq. The Administration of course is in deep denial,
but it doesn't matter, because the Administration has no credibility.
Good grief Harry. * A guy writes a book *(I saw the reviews) and claims
knowledge that nobody else has and, to you, it is gospel because it
happens to support your viewpoint?
There was also a well researched documentary on contemporary Middle
East history this week on the History Channel (International, I think),
that offers serious evidence of Sadam's association with what
ultimately became Al Qaeda .... and it went back many years before
9/11. * *I don't take it for gospel either, but it's worth thinking
about.
Eisboch
You're not following the uproar the book has created, and the
confirmations of its revelations. I'm sure the book is being trashed on
Fake, Er, Faux, er, Fox Noise, er, News, though.
I am watching ..... and listening. * *I see a whole bunch of noise, spin
and condemnations, but where's the "confirmation" you speak of. All I
hear is others saying, like you, "It is confirmed". * Yet ..... were is
the confirmation? * What have I missed?
Eisboch
Hopefully, there will be hearings...right after the elections.
Ahhhhh...... *"right after the elections" ......
How about some confirmation from the author ..... like ..... right now!
I have an open mind.
Eisboch
--
Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.
The author has been on TV interview shows every day...just saw him a few
minutes ago on MSNBC...


--
Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


MSNBC * LOL.... the most untrusted mainstream media outlet besided the
New York Lies... LOL...


Politics is way over your abilities, Scotty. Best stick to the other
subjects you know little about, such as computer networking, boat
building, and keeping children out of harm's way.

--


Actually, I know considerably more about all of those things than you
do.. but you know that already. Why do you feel you have to lie all
the time? Did you ever figure out why Loogie and I could not hook up
Agent yet.. ?? Let me tell you, no, of course you didn't, it was
just another lie... What a waste, I can't wait, just a few more days
now.... Say what you will, you are clueless, and I love it...

HK August 8th 08 12:01 AM

More abusive treatment by U.S. military of captives
 
wrote:
On Aug 7, 6:51 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 7, 6:28 pm, hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
I'm sorry, Jim, but just this week another book came out on Bush's
lies regarding Iraq. The Administration of course is in deep denial,
but it doesn't matter, because the Administration has no credibility.
Good grief Harry. A guy writes a book (I saw the reviews) and claims
knowledge that nobody else has and, to you, it is gospel because it
happens to support your viewpoint?
There was also a well researched documentary on contemporary Middle
East history this week on the History Channel (International, I think),
that offers serious evidence of Sadam's association with what
ultimately became Al Qaeda .... and it went back many years before
9/11. I don't take it for gospel either, but it's worth thinking
about.
Eisboch
You're not following the uproar the book has created, and the
confirmations of its revelations. I'm sure the book is being trashed on
Fake, Er, Faux, er, Fox Noise, er, News, though.
I am watching ..... and listening. I see a whole bunch of noise, spin
and condemnations, but where's the "confirmation" you speak of. All I
hear is others saying, like you, "It is confirmed". Yet ..... were is
the confirmation? What have I missed?
Eisboch
Hopefully, there will be hearings...right after the elections.
Ahhhhh...... "right after the elections" ......
How about some confirmation from the author ..... like ..... right now!
I have an open mind.
Eisboch
--
Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.
The author has been on TV interview shows every day...just saw him a few
minutes ago on MSNBC...
--
Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
MSNBC LOL.... the most untrusted mainstream media outlet besided the
New York Lies... LOL...

Politics is way over your abilities, Scotty. Best stick to the other
subjects you know little about, such as computer networking, boat
building, and keeping children out of harm's way.


You have proven over time that you know little more than how to
google, and how to lie.. that's what you do best, carry on. It won't
be long now and your bull**** will be no more than a bad memory...



Uh oh...is that a threat?

BTW, it's Reggie, not me, that lives via google.

--
Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.

[email protected] August 8th 08 12:07 AM

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On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 16:00:55 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Aug 7, 6:51*pm, hk wrote:


Politics is way over your abilities, Scotty. Best stick to the other
subjects you know little about, such as computer networking, boat
building, and keeping children out of harm's way.

--


Actually, I know considerably more about all of those things than you
do.. but you know that already. Why do you feel you have to lie all
the time? Did you ever figure out why Loogie and I could not hook up
Agent yet.. ??


We all know the answer to THAT one!

Let me tell you, no, of course you didn't, it was
just another lie... What a waste, I can't wait, just a few more days
now.... Say what you will, you are clueless, and I love it...


PussedFrekin is all excited. He's gonna have...

Al Gore Rhythms!


Richard Casady August 8th 08 12:15 AM

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On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:41:07 -0400, hk wrote:

We are able to capture threats to the Iraqi government and the
population, detain them, rehabilitate them, and 99 times out of 100
release them," Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said.


And all this has what all to do with boating?

Casady

[email protected] August 8th 08 12:18 AM

More abusive treatment by U.S. military of captives
 
On Aug 7, 7:15*pm, (Richard Casady) wrote:
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:41:07 -0400, hk wrote:
We are able to capture threats to the Iraqi government and the
population, detain them, rehabilitate them, and 99 times out of 100
release them," Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said.


And all this has what all to do with boating?

Casady


Turn the key, did you see that one..? ;)


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