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"hk" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"Lord Sir T. Bone Pickeral V, ESQ, MD, PhD, JD, Inc, LLC, TM, Knight of
The Realm" wrote in message
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On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:45:02 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
LLC" wrote:

T. Bone Pickeral V, ESQ, MD, PhD, JD, Inc, LLC, TM wrote:
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:55:23 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
LLC" wrote:

I just got in from 2 days on the lake, rafting up with 2 other boat.
We
had some great poker games, and I actually came home with more money
than I left with
Of course you did.
by the way, TBone, do you have any recommendations for the next great
energy boom?
Flatulence.

Say what? Fla Jim could become a national treasure.

A replenishing gasbag?



Or you could say a perpetual motion gas emitter.

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BAR wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 7, 3:15 pm, hk wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
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D.Duck wrote:
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U.S. segregates violent Iraqi prisoners in crates
From Barbara Starr
CNN Pentagon Correspondent
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. military is segregating violent Iraqi
prisoners in wooden crates that in some cases are not much bigger
than
the prisoners.
The U.S. released three photos, including this one, of crates
used to
hold detainees for up to 12 hours.
The military released photos of what it calls the "segregation
boxes"
used in Iraq.
Three grainy black-and-white photos show the rudimentary
structures of
wood and mesh. Some of the boxes are as small as 3 feet by 3 feet
by 6
feet tall, according to military officials, although they did not
release a picture of a box that size.
The average Iraqi male is 5 feet 6 inches tall, according to the
Iraqi
Ministry of Health. That leaves little room for a prisoner to
move once
put in the detention box. See how a man might fit in the crate »
The photos were made public after a blogger filed a Freedom of
Information Act request in 2005.
The military said the boxes are humane and are checked every 15
minutes.
It said detainees, who stand in the boxes, are isolated for no
more than
12 hours at a time.
"Someone in a segregation box is actually observed more than those
anywhere else," said Maj. Neal Fisher, a spokesman for Task Force
134,
the Marine unit in charge of detainees. "Their care and custody
does not
change simply because they are in segregation." Video Watch why the
boxes raise human rights concerns »
A prisoner has never fallen ill or died because of being held in a
segregation box, Fisher said.
Human rights advocates say little is known about how the military
treats
prisoners inside these boxes.
"There are concerns that they could be used in places where the
detainees are enclosed in extremely hot conditions. It is
important to
know whether or not detainees are provided with food," said Jennifer
Daskel of Human Rights Watch.
Prisoners get food and water during their time in the boxes, Fisher
said.
Since the abuses at Abu Ghraib , the U.S. has improved conditions
for
the 20,000 prisoners there, the military said.
But life is tough behind the wire. Hundreds are still considered
by the
military to be al Qaeda loyalists.
The U.S. military has released about 10,000 Iraqi prisoners and
said it
hopes to release more. Recently, 20 foreign fighters were sent
back to
Egypt and Saudi Arabia, the military said.
"We are able to capture threats to the Iraqi government and the
population, detain them, rehabilitate them, and 99 times out of 100
release them," Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said.
- - -
Yes sir, the Bush Administration is working hard to increase respect
around the world for this country.
About the same size as the "boxes" some of our troops come home in.
Yeah, well, you can blame that on the Bush Administration, too. Our
troops
should never have been sent into Iraq.
Nice spin.
Not at all. Bush sent our troops into Iraq under false pretenses. A new
book published this week indicates the Bush Administration's lies to get
us into the war were even greater than anyone realized.


Here we go again.

Are you two having a lovers quarrel?

WAFA used to call him "Hertvik" before he berated him.

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Jim wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
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"Lord Sir T. Bone Pickeral V, ESQ, MD, PhD, JD, Inc, LLC, TM, Knight
of The Realm" wrote in message
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On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:45:02 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
LLC" wrote:

T. Bone Pickeral V, ESQ, MD, PhD, JD, Inc, LLC, TM wrote:
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:55:23 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
LLC" wrote:

I just got in from 2 days on the lake, rafting up with 2 other
boat. We
had some great poker games, and I actually came home with more money
than I left with

Of course you did.

by the way, TBone, do you have any recommendations for the next great
energy boom?

Flatulence.

Say what? Fla Jim could become a national treasure.

Treasure this, stooge.

Too Donnyish. He's the king of dumb one-liners but you already knew
that. :-)

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Eisboch wrote:
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I'm sorry, Jim, but just this week another book came out on Bush's
lies regarding Iraq. The Administration of course is in deep denial,
but it doesn't matter, because the Administration has no credibility.


Good grief Harry. A guy writes a book (I saw the reviews) and claims
knowledge that nobody else has and, to you, it is gospel because it
happens to support your viewpoint?

There was also a well researched documentary on contemporary Middle
East history this week on the History Channel (International, I think),
that offers serious evidence of Sadam's association with what
ultimately became Al Qaeda .... and it went back many years before
9/11. I don't take it for gospel either, but it's worth thinking
about.

Eisboch
You're not following the uproar the book has created, and the
confirmations of its revelations. I'm sure the book is being trashed on
Fake, Er, Faux, er, Fox Noise, er, News, though.




I am watching ..... and listening. I see a whole bunch of noise, spin
and condemnations, but where's the "confirmation" you speak of. All I
hear is others saying, like you, "It is confirmed". Yet ..... were is
the confirmation? What have I missed?

Eisboch
Hopefully, there will be hearings...right after the elections.


Ahhhhh...... "right after the elections" ......

How about some confirmation from the author ..... like ..... right now!

I have an open mind.

Eisboch

--
Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.



Sounds too much like "I have a plan..."

Remember how well that worked?

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"Don White" wrote in message
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"hk" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"Lord Sir T. Bone Pickeral V, ESQ, MD, PhD, JD, Inc, LLC, TM, Knight of
The Realm" wrote in message
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On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:45:02 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
LLC" wrote:

T. Bone Pickeral V, ESQ, MD, PhD, JD, Inc, LLC, TM wrote:
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:55:23 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
LLC" wrote:

I just got in from 2 days on the lake, rafting up with 2 other boat.
We
had some great poker games, and I actually came home with more
money
than I left with
Of course you did.
by the way, TBone, do you have any recommendations for the next great
energy boom?
Flatulence.

Say what? Fla Jim could become a national treasure.

A replenishing gasbag?



Or you could say a perpetual motion gas emitter.

Laugh your stupid little ass off, dimwit.
http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2sajj1w&s=4

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"DK" wrote in message
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Jim wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
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"Lord Sir T. Bone Pickeral V, ESQ, MD, PhD, JD, Inc, LLC, TM, Knight of
The Realm" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:45:02 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
LLC" wrote:

T. Bone Pickeral V, ESQ, MD, PhD, JD, Inc, LLC, TM wrote:
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:55:23 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.
LLC" wrote:

I just got in from 2 days on the lake, rafting up with 2 other boat.
We
had some great poker games, and I actually came home with more
money
than I left with

Of course you did.

by the way, TBone, do you have any recommendations for the next great
energy boom?

Flatulence.

Say what? Fla Jim could become a national treasure.

Treasure this, stooge.

Too Donnyish. He's the king of dumb one-liners but you already knew that.
:-)

You have to go with what he can comprehend. He has so few brain cells, you
know.

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"hk" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:

How about some confirmation from the author ..... like ..... right now!

I have an open mind.

Eisboch




The author has been on TV interview shows every day...just saw him a few
minutes ago on MSNBC...


I didn't see it. What confirmation did he offer?

Eisboch

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Eisboch wrote:

I am watching ..... and listening. I see a whole bunch of noise, spin and
condemnations, but where's the "confirmation" you speak of. All I hear is
others saying, like you, "It is confirmed". Yet ..... were is the
confirmation? What have I missed?

Did you happen to catch this?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=93319762

"listen now"

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"-rick-" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:

I am watching ..... and listening. I see a whole bunch of noise, spin
and condemnations, but where's the "confirmation" you speak of. All I
hear is others saying, like you, "It is confirmed". Yet ..... were is
the confirmation? What have I missed?

Did you happen to catch this?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=93319762

"listen now"


Thanks. I listened to the whole interview. The truth remains invisible,
since his primary sources are currently denying the story, but he makes a
compelling case.

For some reason this whole affair reminds me of the still circulating
theories that FDR "knew" of the impending Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor
but did nothing because he needed a reason to convince the American public
that going to war was necessary.

Eisboch

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"-rick-" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:

I am watching ..... and listening. I see a whole bunch of noise, spin
and condemnations, but where's the "confirmation" you speak of. All I
hear is others saying, like you, "It is confirmed". Yet ..... were is
the confirmation? What have I missed?

Did you happen to catch this?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=93319762

"listen now"


Thanks. I listened to the whole interview. The truth remains invisible,
since his primary sources are currently denying the story, but he makes a
compelling case.

For some reason this whole affair reminds me of the still circulating
theories that FDR "knew" of the impending Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor
but did nothing because he needed a reason to convince the American public
that going to war was necessary.

Eisboch




BTW, for those interested in the concept of history repeating itself,
here's a link to a FDR conspiracy story that offers "proof".

I have no idea what the political leanings are of the organization, "The
Independent Institute", so there's no bias here.

Eisboch

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"-rick-" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:

I am watching ..... and listening. I see a whole bunch of noise,
spin and condemnations, but where's the "confirmation" you speak of.
All I hear is others saying, like you, "It is confirmed". Yet .....
were is the confirmation? What have I missed?

Did you happen to catch this?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=93319762

"listen now"


Thanks. I listened to the whole interview. The truth remains
invisible, since his primary sources are currently denying the story,
but he makes a compelling case.

For some reason this whole affair reminds me of the still circulating
theories that FDR "knew" of the impending Japanese attack on Pearl
Harbor but did nothing because he needed a reason to convince the
American public that going to war was necessary.

Eisboch




BTW, for those interested in the concept of history repeating itself,
here's a link to a FDR conspiracy story that offers "proof".

I have no idea what the political leanings are of the organization, "The
Independent Institute", so there's no bias here.

Eisboch


oopps .... forgot the link:

http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=408


Eisboch

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On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 03:17:00 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
m...

"-rick-" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:

I am watching ..... and listening. I see a whole bunch of noise, spin
and condemnations, but where's the "confirmation" you speak of. All I
hear is others saying, like you, "It is confirmed". Yet ..... were is
the confirmation? What have I missed?

Did you happen to catch this?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=93319762

"listen now"

Thanks. I listened to the whole interview. The truth remains invisible,
since his primary sources are currently denying the story, but he makes a
compelling case.

For some reason this whole affair reminds me of the still circulating
theories that FDR "knew" of the impending Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor
but did nothing because he needed a reason to convince the American public
that going to war was necessary.

BTW, for those interested in the concept of history repeating itself,
here's a link to a FDR conspiracy story that offers "proof".

What these guys don't understand is that they are as bad as Larry.

Somebody writes a book, nobody reads it, but for some reason it's
cited as "proof" of this, that or the other thing.

Humans love conspiracy's. Its' just like the whole "Dick Cheney" is
an evil Oil Man - Obama tried to link everything to Dick Cheney and
his oil friends. It's all a huge conspiracy.

If Dick Cheney's energy plan is such an inherent evil, then why did
Obama vote for it? (McCain didn't by the way).

It's all bull****. Nobody knows for sure - it's all guess work.

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 03:17:00 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"-rick-" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:

I am watching ..... and listening. I see a whole bunch of noise, spin
and condemnations, but where's the "confirmation" you speak of. All I
hear is others saying, like you, "It is confirmed". Yet ..... were is
the confirmation? What have I missed?
Did you happen to catch this?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=93319762

"listen now"
Thanks. I listened to the whole interview. The truth remains invisible,
since his primary sources are currently denying the story, but he makes a
compelling case.

For some reason this whole affair reminds me of the still circulating
theories that FDR "knew" of the impending Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor
but did nothing because he needed a reason to convince the American public
that going to war was necessary.
BTW, for those interested in the concept of history repeating itself,
here's a link to a FDR conspiracy story that offers "proof".

What these guys don't understand is that they are as bad as Larry.

Somebody writes a book, nobody reads it, but for some reason it's
cited as "proof" of this, that or the other thing.

Humans love conspiracy's. Its' just like the whole "Dick Cheney" is
an evil Oil Man - Obama tried to link everything to Dick Cheney and
his oil friends. It's all a huge conspiracy.

If Dick Cheney's energy plan is such an inherent evil, then why did
Obama vote for it? (McCain didn't by the way).

It's all bull****. Nobody knows for sure - it's all guess work.


Ahhh...the great Faux News Equalizer. :)



--
Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.

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On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:59:01 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 03:17:00 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
om...

"-rick-" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:

I am watching ..... and listening. I see a whole bunch of noise, spin
and condemnations, but where's the "confirmation" you speak of. All I
hear is others saying, like you, "It is confirmed". Yet ..... were is
the confirmation? What have I missed?

Did you happen to catch this?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=93319762

"listen now"

Thanks. I listened to the whole interview. The truth remains invisible,
since his primary sources are currently denying the story, but he makes a
compelling case.

For some reason this whole affair reminds me of the still circulating
theories that FDR "knew" of the impending Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor
but did nothing because he needed a reason to convince the American public
that going to war was necessary.

BTW, for those interested in the concept of history repeating itself,
here's a link to a FDR conspiracy story that offers "proof".

What these guys don't understand is that they are as bad as Larry.

Somebody writes a book, nobody reads it, but for some reason it's
cited as "proof" of this, that or the other thing.

Humans love conspiracy's. Its' just like the whole "Dick Cheney" is
an evil Oil Man - Obama tried to link everything to Dick Cheney and
his oil friends. It's all a huge conspiracy.

If Dick Cheney's energy plan is such an inherent evil, then why did
Obama vote for it? (McCain didn't by the way).

It's all bull****. Nobody knows for sure - it's all guess work.

By the way, it's called "connecting the dots".

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk...Conspiracy.jpg

Lots of dots make lots of connections no matter how vague.

~~ snerk ~~

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On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:04:57 -0400, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 03:17:00 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"-rick-" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:

I am watching ..... and listening. I see a whole bunch of noise, spin
and condemnations, but where's the "confirmation" you speak of. All I
hear is others saying, like you, "It is confirmed". Yet ..... were is
the confirmation? What have I missed?
Did you happen to catch this?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=93319762

"listen now"
Thanks. I listened to the whole interview. The truth remains invisible,
since his primary sources are currently denying the story, but he makes a
compelling case.

For some reason this whole affair reminds me of the still circulating
theories that FDR "knew" of the impending Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor
but did nothing because he needed a reason to convince the American public
that going to war was necessary.
BTW, for those interested in the concept of history repeating itself,
here's a link to a FDR conspiracy story that offers "proof".

What these guys don't understand is that they are as bad as Larry.

Somebody writes a book, nobody reads it, but for some reason it's
cited as "proof" of this, that or the other thing.

Humans love conspiracy's. Its' just like the whole "Dick Cheney" is
an evil Oil Man - Obama tried to link everything to Dick Cheney and
his oil friends. It's all a huge conspiracy.

If Dick Cheney's energy plan is such an inherent evil, then why did
Obama vote for it? (McCain didn't by the way).

It's all bull****. Nobody knows for sure - it's all guess work.

Ahhh...the great Faux News Equalizer. :)

No offense Harry, but you are Larry's opposite.

Two dies of the same coin.

Your just not as weird.

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On Aug 8, 6:10 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:59:01 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing



wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 03:17:00 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
om...

"-rick-" wrote in message
om...
Eisboch wrote:

I am watching ..... and listening. I see a whole bunch of noise, spin
and condemnations, but where's the "confirmation" you speak of. All I
hear is others saying, like you, "It is confirmed". Yet ..... were is
the confirmation? What have I missed?

Did you happen to catch this?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=93319762

"listen now"

Thanks. I listened to the whole interview. The truth remains invisible,
since his primary sources are currently denying the story, but he makes a
compelling case.

For some reason this whole affair reminds me of the still circulating
theories that FDR "knew" of the impending Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor
but did nothing because he needed a reason to convince the American public
that going to war was necessary.

BTW, for those interested in the concept of history repeating itself,
here's a link to a FDR conspiracy story that offers "proof".

What these guys don't understand is that they are as bad as Larry.

Somebody writes a book, nobody reads it, but for some reason it's
cited as "proof" of this, that or the other thing.

Humans love conspiracy's. Its' just like the whole "Dick Cheney" is
an evil Oil Man - Obama tried to link everything to Dick Cheney and
his oil friends. It's all a huge conspiracy.

If Dick Cheney's energy plan is such an inherent evil, then why did
Obama vote for it? (McCain didn't by the way).

It's all bull****. Nobody knows for sure - it's all guess work.

By the way, it's called "connecting the dots".

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk...Conspiracy.jpg

Lots of dots make lots of connections no matter how vague.

~~ snerk ~~

Speaking of "conspiracy" , Larry loves this kind of stuff.

i got your "Conspiracy" right here....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UQ5CHifqMs

Plenty for everybody, too!

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:04:57 -0400, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 03:17:00 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"-rick-" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:

I am watching ..... and listening. I see a whole bunch of noise, spin
and condemnations, but where's the "confirmation" you speak of. All I
hear is others saying, like you, "It is confirmed". Yet ..... were is
the confirmation? What have I missed?
Did you happen to catch this?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=93319762

"listen now"
Thanks. I listened to the whole interview. The truth remains invisible,
since his primary sources are currently denying the story, but he makes a
compelling case.

For some reason this whole affair reminds me of the still circulating
theories that FDR "knew" of the impending Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor
but did nothing because he needed a reason to convince the American public
that going to war was necessary.
BTW, for those interested in the concept of history repeating itself,
here's a link to a FDR conspiracy story that offers "proof".
What these guys don't understand is that they are as bad as Larry.

Somebody writes a book, nobody reads it, but for some reason it's
cited as "proof" of this, that or the other thing.

Humans love conspiracy's. Its' just like the whole "Dick Cheney" is
an evil Oil Man - Obama tried to link everything to Dick Cheney and
his oil friends. It's all a huge conspiracy.

If Dick Cheney's energy plan is such an inherent evil, then why did
Obama vote for it? (McCain didn't by the way).

It's all bull****. Nobody knows for sure - it's all guess work.
Ahhh...the great Faux News Equalizer. :)

No offense Harry, but you are Larry's opposite.

Two dies of the same coin.

Your just not as weird.



Sure, Tom, and that's just because I believe the Bush Admin lied us into
a war with Iraq.



--
Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.

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On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:59:01 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:



It's all a huge conspiracy.

Yeah but, I you'll notice most, not all, conspiracy theories come into
being because there are so many holes in the original. By modern
standards, the Warren Commission Report on the Kennedy assassination left
lots to be desired. Perhaps, if the Bush administration had done a
better job of "selling" the war, if we had actually found some WMD, if
the "yellow cake" from Niger wasn't based on forged Italian documents, if
Saddam's ties to Al Qaeda were conclusive, we wouldn't have so many
"conspiracy theories". On the other hand, those that believe we never
landed on the moon, are just nuts. I have personally seen the Alurian
mothership that took Armstrong and Aldrin there when I was working at
Area 51.

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hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:04:57 -0400, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 03:17:00 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"-rick-" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:

I am watching ..... and listening. I see a whole bunch of
noise, spin and condemnations, but where's the "confirmation"
you speak of. All I hear is others saying, like you, "It is
confirmed". Yet ..... were is the confirmation? What have I
missed?
Did you happen to catch this?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=93319762

"listen now"
Thanks. I listened to the whole interview. The truth remains
invisible, since his primary sources are currently denying the
story, but he makes a compelling case.

For some reason this whole affair reminds me of the still
circulating theories that FDR "knew" of the impending Japanese
attack on Pearl Harbor but did nothing because he needed a reason
to convince the American public that going to war was necessary.
BTW, for those interested in the concept of history repeating
itself, here's a link to a FDR conspiracy story that offers "proof".
What these guys don't understand is that they are as bad as Larry.

Somebody writes a book, nobody reads it, but for some reason it's
cited as "proof" of this, that or the other thing.

Humans love conspiracy's. Its' just like the whole "Dick Cheney" is
an evil Oil Man - Obama tried to link everything to Dick Cheney and
his oil friends. It's all a huge conspiracy.

If Dick Cheney's energy plan is such an inherent evil, then why did
Obama vote for it? (McCain didn't by the way).

It's all bull****. Nobody knows for sure - it's all guess work.
Ahhh...the great Faux News Equalizer. :)

No offense Harry, but you are Larry's opposite.

Two dies of the same coin.

Your just not as weird.



Sure, Tom, and that's just because I believe the Bush Admin lied us into
a war with Iraq.

Just like Johnson lied us into a war in Vietnam.

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On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:26:06 -0400, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:04:57 -0400, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 03:17:00 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"-rick-" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:

I am watching ..... and listening. I see a whole bunch of noise, spin
and condemnations, but where's the "confirmation" you speak of. All I
hear is others saying, like you, "It is confirmed". Yet ..... were is
the confirmation? What have I missed?
Did you happen to catch this?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=93319762

"listen now"
Thanks. I listened to the whole interview. The truth remains invisible,
since his primary sources are currently denying the story, but he makes a
compelling case.

For some reason this whole affair reminds me of the still circulating
theories that FDR "knew" of the impending Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor
but did nothing because he needed a reason to convince the American public
that going to war was necessary.
BTW, for those interested in the concept of history repeating itself,
here's a link to a FDR conspiracy story that offers "proof".
What these guys don't understand is that they are as bad as Larry.

Somebody writes a book, nobody reads it, but for some reason it's
cited as "proof" of this, that or the other thing.

Humans love conspiracy's. Its' just like the whole "Dick Cheney" is
an evil Oil Man - Obama tried to link everything to Dick Cheney and
his oil friends. It's all a huge conspiracy.

If Dick Cheney's energy plan is such an inherent evil, then why did
Obama vote for it? (McCain didn't by the way).

It's all bull****. Nobody knows for sure - it's all guess work.
Ahhh...the great Faux News Equalizer. :)

No offense Harry, but you are Larry's opposite.

Two dies of the same coin.

Your just not as weird.

Sure, Tom, and that's just because I believe the Bush Admin lied us into
a war with Iraq.

You believe what you want to believe.

That's the point. Truthers are Truthers - little or no evidence, lots
of dots.

In mathematics, there is a concept called convergence which describes
limiting behaviour, particularly of an infinite sequence or series,
toward some limit.

Put another way, convergence claims the existence of a limit which may
be unknown.

Put another way all dots can eventually be connected in some way no
matter how remote and/or disconnected from the orignal limit if one
continually connects them in unique unlimited ways not related to the
orignal limiting design.

Which is how you get Rockefeller, Tri-Lateral Commissions, Illumaniti,
Freemasonry, Dick Cheney, WMDs in Iraq and 9/11 Trutherism.

In short, you are Larry - a dot connector.

Just a different kind of dot connector. :)

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On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 06:35:22 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:59:01 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:



It's all a huge conspiracy.

Yeah but, I you'll notice most, not all, conspiracy theories come into
being because there are so many holes in the original. By modern
standards, the Warren Commission Report on the Kennedy assassination left
lots to be desired. Perhaps, if the Bush administration had done a
better job of "selling" the war, if we had actually found some WMD, if
the "yellow cake" from Niger wasn't based on forged Italian documents, if
Saddam's ties to Al Qaeda were conclusive, we wouldn't have so many
"conspiracy theories". On the other hand, those that believe we never
landed on the moon, are just nuts. I have personally seen the Alurian
mothership that took Armstrong and Aldrin there when I was working at
Area 51.

Read my reply to Harry about connecting dots. :)

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:26:06 -0400, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:04:57 -0400, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 03:17:00 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"-rick-" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:

I am watching ..... and listening. I see a whole bunch of noise, spin
and condemnations, but where's the "confirmation" you speak of. All I
hear is others saying, like you, "It is confirmed". Yet ..... were is
the confirmation? What have I missed?
Did you happen to catch this?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=93319762

"listen now"
Thanks. I listened to the whole interview. The truth remains invisible,
since his primary sources are currently denying the story, but he makes a
compelling case.

For some reason this whole affair reminds me of the still circulating
theories that FDR "knew" of the impending Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor
but did nothing because he needed a reason to convince the American public
that going to war was necessary.
BTW, for those interested in the concept of history repeating itself,
here's a link to a FDR conspiracy story that offers "proof".
What these guys don't understand is that they are as bad as Larry.

Somebody writes a book, nobody reads it, but for some reason it's
cited as "proof" of this, that or the other thing.

Humans love conspiracy's. Its' just like the whole "Dick Cheney" is
an evil Oil Man - Obama tried to link everything to Dick Cheney and
his oil friends. It's all a huge conspiracy.

If Dick Cheney's energy plan is such an inherent evil, then why did
Obama vote for it? (McCain didn't by the way).

It's all bull****. Nobody knows for sure - it's all guess work.
Ahhh...the great Faux News Equalizer. :)
No offense Harry, but you are Larry's opposite.

Two dies of the same coin.

Your just not as weird.
Sure, Tom, and that's just because I believe the Bush Admin lied us into
a war with Iraq.

You believe what you want to believe.

That's the point. Truthers are Truthers - little or no evidence, lots
of dots.

In mathematics, there is a concept called convergence which describes
limiting behaviour, particularly of an infinite sequence or series,
toward some limit.

Put another way, convergence claims the existence of a limit which may
be unknown.

Put another way all dots can eventually be connected in some way no
matter how remote and/or disconnected from the orignal limit if one
continually connects them in unique unlimited ways not related to the
orignal limiting design.

Which is how you get Rockefeller, Tri-Lateral Commissions, Illumaniti,
Freemasonry, Dick Cheney, WMDs in Iraq and 9/11 Trutherism.

In short, you are Larry - a dot connector.

Just a different kind of dot connector. :)


Sure, Tom. Right. Of course.



--
Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.

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"hk" wrote in message
. ..

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Your just not as weird.



Sure, Tom, and that's just because I believe the Bush Admin lied us into a
war with Iraq.


Fine. Now, getting back to the NPR interview .... one thing that popped
into mind as I listened was the author's obvious personal dislike of the
Bush administration, particularly Cheney. He claims that Bush isn't
(wasn't) strong enough to stand up to Cheney and his opinion, much like
yours, that GWB lied, is the worst President ever, etc., etc., etc. These
comments were interspersed between the interviewer's questions and the
discussion of his book's claims.

So, it sorta sets the mindset and agenda of the author. I would be more
convinced if he simply stuck to the allegations contained in his book and
defended it's accuracy.

Here's what is happening:

The book gets headlines and heavy media exposure, less than 3 months from
election day.
The primary sources of the information contained in the book have denied the
Suskind's claims.
Suskind offers his personal "opinion" that they did so because they are
afraid of having to testify.
The "truth", whatever it is, will come out ...... after the election.
Meanwhile, the damage has been done. The yet unsubstantiated claims have
stuck in many people's minds.


Give me a break.

Eisboch

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On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:55:53 -0400, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:26:06 -0400, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:04:57 -0400, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 03:17:00 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"-rick-" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:

I am watching ..... and listening. I see a whole bunch of noise, spin
and condemnations, but where's the "confirmation" you speak of. All I
hear is others saying, like you, "It is confirmed". Yet ..... were is
the confirmation? What have I missed?
Did you happen to catch this?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=93319762

"listen now"
Thanks. I listened to the whole interview. The truth remains invisible,
since his primary sources are currently denying the story, but he makes a
compelling case.

For some reason this whole affair reminds me of the still circulating
theories that FDR "knew" of the impending Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor
but did nothing because he needed a reason to convince the American public
that going to war was necessary.
BTW, for those interested in the concept of history repeating itself,
here's a link to a FDR conspiracy story that offers "proof".
What these guys don't understand is that they are as bad as Larry.

Somebody writes a book, nobody reads it, but for some reason it's
cited as "proof" of this, that or the other thing.

Humans love conspiracy's. Its' just like the whole "Dick Cheney" is
an evil Oil Man - Obama tried to link everything to Dick Cheney and
his oil friends. It's all a huge conspiracy.

If Dick Cheney's energy plan is such an inherent evil, then why did
Obama vote for it? (McCain didn't by the way).

It's all bull****. Nobody knows for sure - it's all guess work.
Ahhh...the great Faux News Equalizer. :)
No offense Harry, but you are Larry's opposite.

Two dies of the same coin.

Your just not as weird.
Sure, Tom, and that's just because I believe the Bush Admin lied us into
a war with Iraq.

You believe what you want to believe.

That's the point. Truthers are Truthers - little or no evidence, lots
of dots.

In mathematics, there is a concept called convergence which describes
limiting behaviour, particularly of an infinite sequence or series,
toward some limit.

Put another way, convergence claims the existence of a limit which may
be unknown.

Put another way all dots can eventually be connected in some way no
matter how remote and/or disconnected from the orignal limit if one
continually connects them in unique unlimited ways not related to the
orignal limiting design.

Which is how you get Rockefeller, Tri-Lateral Commissions, Illumaniti,
Freemasonry, Dick Cheney, WMDs in Iraq and 9/11 Trutherism.

In short, you are Larry - a dot connector.

Just a different kind of dot connector. :)

Sure, Tom. Right. Of course.

Thus proving that you didn't read a single thing I said.

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:55:53 -0400, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:26:06 -0400, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:04:57 -0400, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 03:17:00 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"-rick-" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:

I am watching ..... and listening. I see a whole bunch of noise, spin
and condemnations, but where's the "confirmation" you speak of. All I
hear is others saying, like you, "It is confirmed". Yet ..... were is
the confirmation? What have I missed?
Did you happen to catch this?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=93319762

"listen now"
Thanks. I listened to the whole interview. The truth remains invisible,
since his primary sources are currently denying the story, but he makes a
compelling case.

For some reason this whole affair reminds me of the still circulating
theories that FDR "knew" of the impending Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor
but did nothing because he needed a reason to convince the American public
that going to war was necessary.
BTW, for those interested in the concept of history repeating itself,
here's a link to a FDR conspiracy story that offers "proof".
What these guys don't understand is that they are as bad as Larry.

Somebody writes a book, nobody reads it, but for some reason it's
cited as "proof" of this, that or the other thing.

Humans love conspiracy's. Its' just like the whole "Dick Cheney" is
an evil Oil Man - Obama tried to link everything to Dick Cheney and
his oil friends. It's all a huge conspiracy.

If Dick Cheney's energy plan is such an inherent evil, then why did
Obama vote for it? (McCain didn't by the way).

It's all bull****. Nobody knows for sure - it's all guess work.
Ahhh...the great Faux News Equalizer. :)
No offense Harry, but you are Larry's opposite.

Two dies of the same coin.

Your just not as weird.
Sure, Tom, and that's just because I believe the Bush Admin lied us into
a war with Iraq.
You believe what you want to believe.

That's the point. Truthers are Truthers - little or no evidence, lots
of dots.

In mathematics, there is a concept called convergence which describes
limiting behaviour, particularly of an infinite sequence or series,
toward some limit.

Put another way, convergence claims the existence of a limit which may
be unknown.

Put another way all dots can eventually be connected in some way no
matter how remote and/or disconnected from the orignal limit if one
continually connects them in unique unlimited ways not related to the
orignal limiting design.

Which is how you get Rockefeller, Tri-Lateral Commissions, Illumaniti,
Freemasonry, Dick Cheney, WMDs in Iraq and 9/11 Trutherism.

In short, you are Larry - a dot connector.

Just a different kind of dot connector. :)
Sure, Tom. Right. Of course.

Thus proving that you didn't read a single thing I said.




I read it.

Frankly, you sound a lot more like Larry than I do.



--
Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.

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"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:59:01 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:



It's all a huge conspiracy.

Yeah but, I you'll notice most, not all, conspiracy theories come into
being because there are so many holes in the original. By modern
standards, the Warren Commission Report on the Kennedy assassination left
lots to be desired. Perhaps, if the Bush administration had done a
better job of "selling" the war, if we had actually found some WMD, if
the "yellow cake" from Niger wasn't based on forged Italian documents, if
Saddam's ties to Al Qaeda were conclusive, we wouldn't have so many
"conspiracy theories". On the other hand, those that believe we never
landed on the moon, are just nuts. I have personally seen the Alurian
mothership that took Armstrong and Aldrin there when I was working at
Area 51.



My favorite conspiracy theory of late was put to rest yesterday when Osama
bin Laden's driver drew, in effect, a six-month sentence in the face of
the lying Bush Administration's calls for a 30-year sentence:

"GUANTANAMO BAY NAVY BASE, Cuba -- In a stunning rebuke, a six-member U.S.
military jury Thursday ignored a Pentagon prosecutor's plea for a 30
years-plus term and ordered Osama bin Laden's driver to 66 months in
prison.

With credit for time served given by the judge, that means Salim Hamdan,
40, of Yemen will be eligible to return home by January.

Choked with emotion on hearing the sentence, Hamdan stood and addressed
the jury, unscripted, and twice more apologized for any pain his work as a
$200-a-month driver had caused. "And I would like to thank you for what
you have done for me," he said.

The jury's decision, after just 70 minutes of deliberation, was a huge
rebuke to the U.S. government, which had insisted that on his conviction
for material support for terror no less than 30 years confinement would
suffice.

He is the first war-on-terror captive convicted at the first contested
U.S. war crimes tribunal since World War II."

- - - - - - - - - -


Not only was Hamdan the first, the government claimed several times its
case against him was "the strongest."

More and more, the Bush Administration's statements and claims regarding
the reasons for its war against Iraq are being revealed as complete
fabrications.

Oh, and the political reunification that was the major reason for the
surge? It ain't happening.



--
Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.

These folks in Iraq have been fighting amongst themselves for 1000s of years
and it ain't gonna stop in our life times.

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


Your just not as weird.

Speak for yourself. I find Larry to be very pleasant and helpful, I
can't say either about Harry, but Harry is very very weird.

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D.Duck wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:59:01 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:



It's all a huge conspiracy.
Yeah but, I you'll notice most, not all, conspiracy theories come into
being because there are so many holes in the original. By modern
standards, the Warren Commission Report on the Kennedy assassination left
lots to be desired. Perhaps, if the Bush administration had done a
better job of "selling" the war, if we had actually found some WMD, if
the "yellow cake" from Niger wasn't based on forged Italian documents, if
Saddam's ties to Al Qaeda were conclusive, we wouldn't have so many
"conspiracy theories". On the other hand, those that believe we never
landed on the moon, are just nuts. I have personally seen the Alurian
mothership that took Armstrong and Aldrin there when I was working at
Area 51.


My favorite conspiracy theory of late was put to rest yesterday when Osama
bin Laden's driver drew, in effect, a six-month sentence in the face of
the lying Bush Administration's calls for a 30-year sentence:

"GUANTANAMO BAY NAVY BASE, Cuba -- In a stunning rebuke, a six-member U.S.
military jury Thursday ignored a Pentagon prosecutor's plea for a 30
years-plus term and ordered Osama bin Laden's driver to 66 months in
prison.

With credit for time served given by the judge, that means Salim Hamdan,
40, of Yemen will be eligible to return home by January.

Choked with emotion on hearing the sentence, Hamdan stood and addressed
the jury, unscripted, and twice more apologized for any pain his work as a
$200-a-month driver had caused. "And I would like to thank you for what
you have done for me," he said.

The jury's decision, after just 70 minutes of deliberation, was a huge
rebuke to the U.S. government, which had insisted that on his conviction
for material support for terror no less than 30 years confinement would
suffice.

He is the first war-on-terror captive convicted at the first contested
U.S. war crimes tribunal since World War II."

- - - - - - - - - -


Not only was Hamdan the first, the government claimed several times its
case against him was "the strongest."

More and more, the Bush Administration's statements and claims regarding
the reasons for its war against Iraq are being revealed as complete
fabrications.

Oh, and the political reunification that was the major reason for the
surge? It ain't happening.



--
Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.

These folks in Iraq have been fighting amongst themselves for 1000s of years
and it ain't gonna stop in our life times.





If you are really naive, and you are president of the United States, you
might convince yourself that if you invade a country like Iraq, depose
its leadership, occupy the country, reconstitute a local government,
exempt your soldiers and contractors from local laws, provide many
targets for your enemies, virtually ignore the problems in Afghanistan,
and have an orgasm over purple-ink stained fingers, then you might
believe you are going to establish a modern, "western-style" democracy
in Iraq.

Thankfully, the Iraqis have told Bush they want us out of there...and on
Obama's schedule.


--
Republicans - They Take Special Pride in their Ignorance.

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On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:44:06 -0400, BAR wrote:


You mean the 500 tons of yellow cake that was recently shipped out of
Iraq to Canada for storage.

No, I'm talking about the *non-existent" yellow cake from Niger. The 500
tons you are referring to, predates the 1991 Gulf War. You do, of
course, remember the 1981 Israel bombing of the Tuwaitha nuclear
facility, back when Saddam *did* have a nuclear program. That is the
yellow cake you are referring to and it had been cataloged and under
control of UN inspectors since shortly after the 1991 Gulf War.

But keep trying, sometime, somewhere, you may find a small bit of truth
in Bush's buildup for war. Then weigh the cost, 500 tons of yellow cake,
4000 young American lives, 500 tons of yellow cake, $500 billion. Of
course, $500 billion isn't worth what it was before the present
administration.

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On Aug 8, 8:57*am, wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:44:06 -0400, BAR wrote:
You mean the 500 tons of yellow cake that was recently shipped out of
Iraq to Canada for storage.

No, I'm talking about the *non-existent" yellow cake from Niger. *The 500
tons you are referring to, predates the 1991 Gulf War. *You do, of
course, remember the 1981 Israel bombing of the Tuwaitha nuclear
facility, back when Saddam *did* have *a nuclear program. That is the
yellow cake you are referring to and it had been cataloged and under
control of UN inspectors since shortly after the 1991 Gulf War. *

But keep trying, sometime, somewhere, you may find a small bit of truth
in Bush's buildup for war. *Then weigh the cost, 500 tons of yellow cake,
4000 young American lives, 500 tons of yellow cake, $500 billion. *Of
course, $500 billion isn't worth what it was before the present
administration.

So, in the six weeks leading up to the war, while France, Russia, and
China were stalling. What do you think was in the massive convoy that
left for Syria, and where did hundreds of Iraqui scientists go during
that time.. They have never been accounted for. Of course, the
democrats know as much as anyone, but are willing to throw Bush under
the bus, knowing he can't say anything without selling us out...
pffffttt....

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On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 08:07:21 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


The primary sources of the information contained in the book have denied
the Suskind's claims.

I'm not sure this is completely accurate. My understanding is the Richer
has denied the claims, and has stated McGuire gave him permission to make
a *specific* denial statement. NPR was interviewing Suskind, and he
states the McGuire "denial" is the result of confusion, and, after he has
read the book, will confirm Suskind's version. He also states that he
has all the conversations on tape.

But I do agree, one has to be very careful during an ongoing "he said,
she said", especially during an election year. It will take time before
all this shakes out, but, remember, these accusations are about Bush, not
about McCain.

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On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 09:03:18 -0400, hk wrote:


I thought we passed the $500 billion mark a long time ago...

I think that is what we have *spent* short term. Adding in the long
term, care of vets, federal debt interest, etc., I believe the number
will be @ $5 trillion.

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On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 06:01:48 -0700, justwaitafrekinminute wrote:


So, in the six weeks leading up to the war, while France, Russia, and
China were stalling. What do you think was in the massive convoy that
left for Syria, and where did hundreds of Iraqui scientists go during
that time.. They have never been accounted for. Of course, the democrats
know as much as anyone, but are willing to throw Bush under the bus,
knowing he can't say anything without selling us out... pffffttt....

Of course you know, Syria supported *Iran* in the Iran-Iraq War? Of
course you also know, Syria was part of the coalition against Iraq in the
1991 Gulf War? Of course you know, Syria was one of the countries that
tortured terrorism suspects for the CIA?

So, knowing all of this, explain to me, why, Syria would accept WMD, with
the world's superpower about to invade Iraq looking for them?

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On Aug 8, 8:57*am, wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:44:06 -0400, BAR wrote:
You mean the 500 tons of yellow cake that was recently shipped out of
Iraq to Canada for storage.

No, I'm talking about the *non-existent" yellow cake from Niger. *The 500
tons you are referring to, predates the 1991 Gulf War. *You do, of
course, remember the 1981 Israel bombing of the Tuwaitha nuclear
facility, back when Saddam *did* have *a nuclear program. That is the
yellow cake you are referring to and it had been cataloged and under
control of UN inspectors since shortly after the 1991 Gulf War. *

But keep trying, sometime, somewhere, you may find a small bit of truth
in Bush's buildup for war. *Then weigh the cost, 500 tons of yellow cake,
4000 young American lives, 500 tons of yellow cake, $500 billion. *Of
course, $500 billion isn't worth what it was before the present
administration.

On the world news last night they had a piece about Iraq not spending
their surpluses on rebuilding. Largely because their thought is that
the U.S. blew it up, the U.S. should fix it:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/06/wo...urplus.html?em

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wrote in message
...
On Aug 8, 8:57 am, wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:44:06 -0400, BAR wrote:
You mean the 500 tons of yellow cake that was recently shipped out of
Iraq to Canada for storage.

No, I'm talking about the *non-existent" yellow cake from Niger. The 500
tons you are referring to, predates the 1991 Gulf War. You do, of
course, remember the 1981 Israel bombing of the Tuwaitha nuclear
facility, back when Saddam *did* have a nuclear program. That is the
yellow cake you are referring to and it had been cataloged and under
control of UN inspectors since shortly after the 1991 Gulf War.

But keep trying, sometime, somewhere, you may find a small bit of truth
in Bush's buildup for war. Then weigh the cost, 500 tons of yellow cake,
4000 young American lives, 500 tons of yellow cake, $500 billion. Of
course, $500 billion isn't worth what it was before the present
administration.

On the world news last night they had a piece about Iraq not spending
their surpluses on rebuilding. Largely because their thought is that
the U.S. blew it up, the U.S. should fix it:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/06/wo...urplus.html?em
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Unbelievable...there must be quite a few American leaders getting their
hands greased to allow this to happen.