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DK August 5th 08 12:59 AM

Sony laptops?
 
D.Duck wrote:
"DK" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 17:05:12 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
Am considering this laptop for my wife's birthday in a couple weeks.
Best
Buy has it on sale for $999. I'll add another gig of RAM and router.

http://tinyurl.com/59yons

Thoughts?
Depending on what she'll use if for it may be over-kill.
Yeahbut, she likes it. We skipped the extra gig of RAM. Seems it has only
two slots, one with two gigs, the other with one gig. In order to upgrade
to 4 gigs, I'd have to trash one gig and buy two. Hell with it. We'll see
how it works with only three.

Good luck with Vista! I can still get XP Pro at a decent price if you
want to scrap that OS.


Newegg, OEM?



Haven't checked them in a while. They are a great source for hardware.
I've never bought software from them.

The guys that handle our IT have OEM still available.

John H.[_5_] August 9th 08 01:03 AM

Sony laptops?
 
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:20:51 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:41:49 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
Do you know of a good email client that incorporates a calendar that
is similar to Outlook?

They are working on Thunderbird 3 which be both a calendar and email
product.

From Mozilla's web site
Thunderbird 3 will include calendaring, better search, and better
overall user experience, much like Firefox 3. We’re hoping for a release
in late 2008 -- the exact timing will depend on who joins this
collective effort.

I forgot to mention, you can use the Lightning add on until this is released

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2313


Why do you need a calendar inside an email program?


I use Outlook and find it is easy to check my schedule and email at the
same time.

When I open email, a popup window will open and show me my appts and
reminders on my calendar. It also allows me to send events and appts to
others via email.


Ditto. Outlook does a good job. Calendar very easy to use.

John H.[_5_] August 9th 08 01:05 AM

Sony laptops?
 
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 14:09:06 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:27:44 GMT, "Canuck57"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 22:30:29 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 17:14:41 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
Am considering this laptop for my wife's birthday in a couple weeks.
Best
Buy has it on sale for $999. I'll add another gig of RAM and router.

http://tinyurl.com/59yons

Thoughts?
Unless she likes laptop keyboards and pointing devices I would
suggest
an
external keyboard and mouse, either USB or wireless if you don't mind
fooling with batteries. I don't have a wireless keyboard but have
wireless
mice on two computers. The one that is used extensively gets 2~3
months
from a set of quality alkaline batteries.

She's never had a laptop, and neither have I. We'll see how she does
with
the built in stuff. I'd have to have the external mouse, as I can't
stand
that rubbing the pad stuff.

The keyboard and mouse just plug in via USB cables. While a 16" wide
screen, you don't really need it, but if you want you can also use a
larger monitor and use the laptop as a CPU when she is at her desk. I
am a few years away from buying a new computer, but I am really leaning
towards buying a Mac and MacPro laptop. My son and my youngest girl
will buy a Mac Laptop in the next month. You can get a 10% discount and
a Ipod Touch for any students or teachers, so your wife would qualify.
I think they are both leaning towards the 13" laptop to make it easy to
carry, and then use a larger monitor and keyboard in their dorm.

My wife's never taught, but she doesn't want an Apple. We put the money
on
the Sony last night, before the sale went off. So she'll learn to be
happy
with what she's got.

Right now she thinks it's a pretty cool birthday present. The big
disadvantage to the whole thing is Vista. I saw a little demonstrated by
the guy in the store, but I wasn't too impressed. Very flashy though.

New users to Vista generally fair better than seasoned users as many of
Vista's defects you would not know without previous experience with at
least
XP. For example, record a 4GB video file and copy it around in XP goes
about 6-10 times faster than Vista. But never having done that on a
computer, you are more likely to find 20 minute copies of big files
acceptable not knowing XP can do in 2m30s and Linux in under 2m. Mac, I
don't know but never heard of copy speed complaints. Similarly with Vista
premium on a high speed home network.


I'm keeping XP on the desktop, and will get XP on my next desktop, if
possible. My wife will have to suffer with the Vista problems, but she may
not know the difference anyway.


You might want to consider ditching Vista and installing XP on the new
laptop.


So far she hasn't complained about Vista. My neighbor is an IT guy with the
Post Office, and he's been helping her get it all set up. She's quite happy
with it.

D.Duck August 9th 08 01:55 AM

Sony laptops?
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:20:51 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:41:49 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
Do you know of a good email client that incorporates a calendar that
is similar to Outlook?

They are working on Thunderbird 3 which be both a calendar and email
product.

From Mozilla's web site
Thunderbird 3 will include calendaring, better search, and better
overall user experience, much like Firefox 3. We're hoping for a
release
in late 2008 -- the exact timing will depend on who joins this
collective effort.

I forgot to mention, you can use the Lightning add on until this is
released

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2313

Why do you need a calendar inside an email program?


I use Outlook and find it is easy to check my schedule and email at the
same time.

When I open email, a popup window will open and show me my appts and
reminders on my calendar. It also allows me to send events and appts to
others via email.


Ditto. Outlook does a good job. Calendar very easy to use.


If you want a really good spam filter for Outlook, give the free SpamBayes a
try. I find it very effective and no filters to construct.

http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/



D.Duck August 9th 08 01:57 AM

Sony laptops?
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 14:09:06 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:27:44 GMT, "Canuck57"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
m...
On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 22:30:29 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 17:14:41 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
Am considering this laptop for my wife's birthday in a couple
weeks.
Best
Buy has it on sale for $999. I'll add another gig of RAM and
router.

http://tinyurl.com/59yons

Thoughts?
Unless she likes laptop keyboards and pointing devices I would
suggest
an
external keyboard and mouse, either USB or wireless if you don't
mind
fooling with batteries. I don't have a wireless keyboard but have
wireless
mice on two computers. The one that is used extensively gets 2~3
months
from a set of quality alkaline batteries.

She's never had a laptop, and neither have I. We'll see how she does
with
the built in stuff. I'd have to have the external mouse, as I can't
stand
that rubbing the pad stuff.

The keyboard and mouse just plug in via USB cables. While a 16" wide
screen, you don't really need it, but if you want you can also use a
larger monitor and use the laptop as a CPU when she is at her desk. I
am a few years away from buying a new computer, but I am really
leaning
towards buying a Mac and MacPro laptop. My son and my youngest girl
will buy a Mac Laptop in the next month. You can get a 10% discount
and
a Ipod Touch for any students or teachers, so your wife would qualify.
I think they are both leaning towards the 13" laptop to make it easy
to
carry, and then use a larger monitor and keyboard in their dorm.

My wife's never taught, but she doesn't want an Apple. We put the
money
on
the Sony last night, before the sale went off. So she'll learn to be
happy
with what she's got.

Right now she thinks it's a pretty cool birthday present. The big
disadvantage to the whole thing is Vista. I saw a little demonstrated
by
the guy in the store, but I wasn't too impressed. Very flashy though.

New users to Vista generally fair better than seasoned users as many of
Vista's defects you would not know without previous experience with at
least
XP. For example, record a 4GB video file and copy it around in XP goes
about 6-10 times faster than Vista. But never having done that on a
computer, you are more likely to find 20 minute copies of big files
acceptable not knowing XP can do in 2m30s and Linux in under 2m. Mac, I
don't know but never heard of copy speed complaints. Similarly with
Vista
premium on a high speed home network.


I'm keeping XP on the desktop, and will get XP on my next desktop, if
possible. My wife will have to suffer with the Vista problems, but she
may
not know the difference anyway.


You might want to consider ditching Vista and installing XP on the new
laptop.


So far she hasn't complained about Vista. My neighbor is an IT guy with
the
Post Office, and he's been helping her get it all set up. She's quite
happy
with it.


What ever works for her. I'm so into WinXP and I have found no compelling
reason to switch.



[email protected] August 9th 08 02:06 AM

Sony laptops?
 
On Aug 8, 8:55*pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
"John H." wrote in message

...





On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:20:51 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:41:49 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:


Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
Do you know of a good email client that incorporates a calendar that
is similar to Outlook?


They are working on Thunderbird 3 which be both a calendar and email
product.


*From Mozilla's web site
Thunderbird 3 will include calendaring, better search, and better
overall user experience, much like Firefox 3. We're hoping for a
release
in late 2008 -- the exact timing will depend on who joins this
collective effort.


I forgot to mention, you can use the Lightning add on until this is
released


https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2313


Why do you need a calendar inside an email program?


I use Outlook and find it is easy to check my schedule and email at the
same time.


When I open email, a popup window will open and show me my appts and
reminders on my calendar. *It also allows me to send events and appts to
others via email.


Ditto. Outlook does a good job. Calendar very easy to use.


If you want a really good spam filter for Outlook, give the free SpamBayes a
try. *I find it very effective and no filters to construct.

http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


My wife and some of her peers have written mods on our servers for
Spam Assassin (TM) and Spam Cop (TM) that pick up several million
spams a day for our clients, they never even get through the POP
server. They have sold the packages to several other providers, it
works great. My smallboats account which has been active since the
early 90's gets maybe 2-4 spams a day getting through on a bad day. If
not for the filters, I would get thousands just on that account
alone... It should be on your service provider to stop spam, they
could, but there are a lot of reasons they don't ;)

Note: We do not own Spam Cop or Spam Assassin, just the mods...

D.Duck August 9th 08 02:20 AM

Sony laptops?
 

wrote in message
...
On Aug 8, 8:55 pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
"John H." wrote in message

...





On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:20:51 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:41:49 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:


Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
Do you know of a good email client that incorporates a calendar
that
is similar to Outlook?


They are working on Thunderbird 3 which be both a calendar and email
product.


From Mozilla's web site
Thunderbird 3 will include calendaring, better search, and better
overall user experience, much like Firefox 3. We're hoping for a
release
in late 2008 -- the exact timing will depend on who joins this
collective effort.


I forgot to mention, you can use the Lightning add on until this is
released


https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2313


Why do you need a calendar inside an email program?


I use Outlook and find it is easy to check my schedule and email at the
same time.


When I open email, a popup window will open and show me my appts and
reminders on my calendar. It also allows me to send events and appts to
others via email.


Ditto. Outlook does a good job. Calendar very easy to use.


If you want a really good spam filter for Outlook, give the free SpamBayes
a
try. I find it very effective and no filters to construct.

http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


My wife and some of her peers have written mods on our servers for
Spam Assassin (TM) and Spam Cop (TM) that pick up several million
spams a day for our clients, they never even get through the POP
server. They have sold the packages to several other providers, it
works great. My smallboats account which has been active since the
early 90's gets maybe 2-4 spams a day getting through on a bad day. If
not for the filters, I would get thousands just on that account
alone... It should be on your service provider to stop spam, they
could, but there are a lot of reasons they don't ;)

Note: We do not own Spam Cop or Spam Assassin, just the mods...

==================================

I don't think Embarq, my ISP, would listen to any suggestions from me, so I
just have to be my own first line of defense. SpamBayes is extremely
effective.



John H.[_5_] August 9th 08 02:14 PM

Sony laptops?
 
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:55:58 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:20:51 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:41:49 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
Do you know of a good email client that incorporates a calendar that
is similar to Outlook?

They are working on Thunderbird 3 which be both a calendar and email
product.

From Mozilla's web site
Thunderbird 3 will include calendaring, better search, and better
overall user experience, much like Firefox 3. We're hoping for a
release
in late 2008 -- the exact timing will depend on who joins this
collective effort.

I forgot to mention, you can use the Lightning add on until this is
released

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2313

Why do you need a calendar inside an email program?

I use Outlook and find it is easy to check my schedule and email at the
same time.

When I open email, a popup window will open and show me my appts and
reminders on my calendar. It also allows me to send events and appts to
others via email.


Ditto. Outlook does a good job. Calendar very easy to use.


If you want a really good spam filter for Outlook, give the free SpamBayes a
try. I find it very effective and no filters to construct.

http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/


I'm using Mailwasher, which I like very much. However, while I was away and
my wife's computer was getting set up, something got changed and Mailwasher
is acting strangely.

It used to take the messages off the server when I downloaded them with
Outlook. Now I'm having to go back into Mailwasher and delete the messages.
I'd thought there was a quick setting for this somewhere, but I can't find
it.

Sir Grand Duke of Marmalade, Reginald P. Smithers III The Great, Esq. LLC August 9th 08 03:44 PM

Sony laptops?
 
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:55:58 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:20:51 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:41:49 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
Do you know of a good email client that incorporates a calendar that
is similar to Outlook?

They are working on Thunderbird 3 which be both a calendar and email
product.

From Mozilla's web site
Thunderbird 3 will include calendaring, better search, and better
overall user experience, much like Firefox 3. We're hoping for a
release
in late 2008 -- the exact timing will depend on who joins this
collective effort.

I forgot to mention, you can use the Lightning add on until this is
released

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2313
Why do you need a calendar inside an email program?
I use Outlook and find it is easy to check my schedule and email at the
same time.

When I open email, a popup window will open and show me my appts and
reminders on my calendar. It also allows me to send events and appts to
others via email.
Ditto. Outlook does a good job. Calendar very easy to use.

If you want a really good spam filter for Outlook, give the free SpamBayes a
try. I find it very effective and no filters to construct.

http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/


I'm using Mailwasher, which I like very much. However, while I was away and
my wife's computer was getting set up, something got changed and Mailwasher
is acting strangely.

It used to take the messages off the server when I downloaded them with
Outlook. Now I'm having to go back into Mailwasher and delete the messages.
I'd thought there was a quick setting for this somewhere, but I can't find
it.


You need to uninstall Mailwasher, and then reinstall it. I would also
do a search on Mailwasher and delete the Mailwasher folders.

John H.[_5_] August 9th 08 04:05 PM

Sony laptops?
 
On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:44:01 -0400, "Sir Grand Duke of Marmalade, Reginald
P. Smithers III The Great, Esq. LLC" wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:55:58 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:20:51 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:41:49 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
Do you know of a good email client that incorporates a calendar that
is similar to Outlook?

They are working on Thunderbird 3 which be both a calendar and email
product.

From Mozilla's web site
Thunderbird 3 will include calendaring, better search, and better
overall user experience, much like Firefox 3. We're hoping for a
release
in late 2008 -- the exact timing will depend on who joins this
collective effort.

I forgot to mention, you can use the Lightning add on until this is
released

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2313
Why do you need a calendar inside an email program?
I use Outlook and find it is easy to check my schedule and email at the
same time.

When I open email, a popup window will open and show me my appts and
reminders on my calendar. It also allows me to send events and appts to
others via email.
Ditto. Outlook does a good job. Calendar very easy to use.
If you want a really good spam filter for Outlook, give the free SpamBayes a
try. I find it very effective and no filters to construct.

http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/


I'm using Mailwasher, which I like very much. However, while I was away and
my wife's computer was getting set up, something got changed and Mailwasher
is acting strangely.

It used to take the messages off the server when I downloaded them with
Outlook. Now I'm having to go back into Mailwasher and delete the messages.
I'd thought there was a quick setting for this somewhere, but I can't find
it.


You need to uninstall Mailwasher, and then reinstall it. I would also
do a search on Mailwasher and delete the Mailwasher folders.


I'll do the uninstall bit. Which version do you have? I'm using 5.2, but
6.1 is out now. I'm seeing that people are having problems with it running
very slow, so I've not downloaded the upgrade yet.


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