Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:37:24 -0400, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:03:45 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:30:00 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
I am rethinking - um...attempting to develop a way to effectively say
that I was...er...."incorrect"...no, that's not the word - mistaken -
yeah, mistaken in my belief that I could hit a golf ball further with
a baseball bat than with a golf club.

I'm sure that, Obama like, I can rephrase my original assertion in
such a way that what I was really saying was that I couildn't hit a
golf ball further with a baseball bat than a golf club while not
admitting that I was mistaken about being able to do so leaving the
impression that indeed I could hit a golf ball further with a baseball
bat than a golf club only I can't.

I'll figure it out eventually. :)
You can always have HOPE.
And change.

Let's not forget change.
Better get used to it...
You heard it here first Harry.

Obama will not be the next President of the United States if
successfully nominated.

And, if I were a betting man, he won't be the Nominee of the Democrats
either.
snerk
McCain ain't gonna win.

We'll see who is right. :)

Get it - right?


Yeah, yeah, yeah.

If America is at least partially over its racism, Obama will win. If
Obama were white, he'd win in a landslide, But because he ain't, it'll
be close. But Obama will win.

McCain has absolutely nothing to offer. You can tell that by the
"attack" campaign commercials he is running right now.

McCain needs a new slogan. How about:

"There is no hope." - John McCain.

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:03:45 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:30:00 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
I am rethinking - um...attempting to develop a way to effectively say
that I was...er...."incorrect"...no, that's not the word - mistaken -
yeah, mistaken in my belief that I could hit a golf ball further with
a baseball bat than with a golf club.

I'm sure that, Obama like, I can rephrase my original assertion in
such a way that what I was really saying was that I couildn't hit a
golf ball further with a baseball bat than a golf club while not
admitting that I was mistaken about being able to do so leaving the
impression that indeed I could hit a golf ball further with a
baseball
bat than a golf club only I can't.

I'll figure it out eventually. :)
You can always have HOPE.
And change.

Let's not forget change.
Better get used to it...

You heard it here first Harry.

Obama will not be the next President of the United States if
successfully nominated.

And, if I were a betting man, he won't be the Nominee of the Democrats
either.


snerk

McCain ain't gonna win.

I was watching the 'Chronicle' show last night on CBS Boston
They talked about the Balsams Hotel in Dixville Notch, New Hampshire.
Seems this spot has the first returns on the presidential vote and
the17eligible voters claim a 75% success rate in picking a new president.
That might be a fun place to hold a Wrecked Boats re-union.

Don White wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:03:45 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:30:00 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
I am rethinking - um...attempting to develop a way to effectively say
that I was...er...."incorrect"...no, that's not the word - mistaken -
yeah, mistaken in my belief that I could hit a golf ball further with
a baseball bat than with a golf club.

I'm sure that, Obama like, I can rephrase my original assertion in
such a way that what I was really saying was that I couildn't hit a
golf ball further with a baseball bat than a golf club while not
admitting that I was mistaken about being able to do so leaving the
impression that indeed I could hit a golf ball further with a
baseball
bat than a golf club only I can't.

I'll figure it out eventually. :)
You can always have HOPE.
And change.

Let's not forget change.
Better get used to it...
You heard it here first Harry.

Obama will not be the next President of the United States if
successfully nominated.

And, if I were a betting man, he won't be the Nominee of the Democrats
either.

snerk
McCain ain't gonna win.

I was watching the 'Chronicle' show last night on CBS Boston
They talked about the Balsams Hotel in Dixville Notch, New Hampshire.
Seems this spot has the first returns on the presidential vote and
the17eligible voters claim a 75% success rate in picking a new president.
That might be a fun place to hold a Wrecked Boats re-union.



I wouldn't go to a rec.boats "reunion" unless I could open carry my Sig
Sauer X-5. :)

Seriously, I'll be watching closely for the Virginia returns. If Obama
carries Virginia, the outcome of the election will be known. If he loses
Virginia, we'll have to stay up a little later.

You can tell how desperate McCain is by the sniping remarks and attack
commericals he is running.

This week, McCain had another skin cancer removed. I think it
reasonable, since he has had more than one bout with cancer, for him to
be examined by a nationally known oncologist who will release a report
on that aspect of his health.

On Jul 29, 9:54*am, hk wrote:
Don White wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:03:45 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:30:00 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:e4os84lp7vsd0c6rum7jg8bo1k4qfblfiu@4ax. com...
I am rethinking - um...attempting to develop a way to effectively say
that I was...er...."incorrect"...no, that's not the word - mistaken -
yeah, mistaken in my belief that I could hit a golf ball further with
a baseball bat than with a golf club.

I'm sure that, Obama like, I can rephrase my original assertion in
such a way that what I was really saying was that I couildn't hit a
golf ball further with a baseball bat than a golf club while not
admitting that I was mistaken about being able to do so leaving the
impression that indeed I could hit a golf ball further with a
baseball
bat than a golf club only I can't.

I'll figure it out *eventually. *:)
You can always have HOPE.
And change.

Let's not forget change.
Better get used to it...
You heard it here first Harry.

Obama will not be the next President of the United States if
successfully nominated.

And, if I were a betting man, he won't be the Nominee of the Democrats
either.

snerk
McCain ain't gonna win.

I was watching the 'Chronicle' show last night on CBS Boston
They talked about the Balsams Hotel in Dixville Notch, New Hampshire.
Seems this spot has the first returns on the presidential vote and
the17eligible voters claim a 75% success rate in picking a new president.

On Jul 29, 10:22*am, wrote:
On Jul 29, 9:54*am, hk wrote:





Don White wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:03:45 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:30:00 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:e4os84lp7vsd0c6rum7jg8bo1k4qfblfiu@4ax. com...
I am rethinking - um...attempting to develop a way to effectively say
that I was...er...."incorrect"...no, that's not the word - mistaken -
yeah, mistaken in my belief that I could hit a golf ball further with
a baseball bat than with a golf club.

I'm sure that, Obama like, I can rephrase my original assertion in
such a way that what I was really saying was that I couildn't hit a
golf ball further with a baseball bat than a golf club while not
admitting that I was mistaken about being able to do so leaving the
impression that indeed I could hit a golf ball further with a
baseball
bat than a golf club only I can't.

I'll figure it out *eventually. *:)
You can always have HOPE.
And change.

Let's not forget change.
Better get used to it...
You heard it here first Harry.

Obama will not be the next President of the United States if
successfully nominated.

And, if I were a betting man, he won't be the Nominee of the Democrats
either.

snerk
McCain ain't gonna win.

I was watching the 'Chronicle' show last night on CBS Boston
They talked about the Balsams Hotel in Dixville Notch, New Hampshire.
Seems this spot has the first returns on the presidential vote and
the17eligible voters claim a 75% success rate in picking a new president.
That might be a fun place to hold a Wrecked Boats re-union.

I wouldn't go to a rec.boats "reunion" unless I could open carry my Sig
Sauer X-5. *:)

Seriously, I'll be watching closely for the Virginia returns. If Obama
carries Virginia, the outcome of the election will be known. If he loses
Virginia, we'll have to stay up a little later.

You can tell how desperate McCain is by the sniping remarks and attack
commericals he is running.

This week, McCain had another skin cancer removed. I think it
reasonable, since he has had more than one bout with cancer, for him to
be examined by a nationally known oncologist who will release a report
on that aspect of his health.- Hide quoted text -

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Another lie. It wasn't a "skin cancer". Idiot.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The wafa lies are starting to fly.. the insults toward everything
decent in America is coming.. Please ignore this guy, he doesn't care
at all about facts, just the latest George Soros/Moveon.org/Msnbc
party line..

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 05:53:51 -0500, wrote:

There's a big difference between a baseball and a golf ball. Although,
I'd still bet on the club.

The loft of a golf club puts backspin on the ball which lowers the
pressure above the ball, and raises it below it. This tends to hold
the ball up and make it go farther. This is called the Magnus effect.
It works much better with a dimpled ball, which will go aboout twice
as far as a smooth one.

Casady

On Jul 29, 7:40*am, hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 05:13:32 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Jul 29, 7:03 am, HK wrote:

. My favorite rifle is a Swedish Mauser in
6.5x55 mm. *Not much recoil, and damned accurate.
Absolutely! the Ljungman *is one of my favorite rifles *and the 6.5 is
an all around sweet cartridge.

I've never shot one, but I've heard good things about it as a solid
all-purpose rifle.

My personal all-around bestest rifle is a older Winchester lever
action that was rechambered and re-barreled to .325 with iron sights.
Custom match ammo and that rifle is as accurate at a laser.

Are you referring to the semi-auto Ljungman? Not one of my favorites. I
prefer the old reliable bolt action swedish mauser for 6.5x55 rounds.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yessir, I was. i dont' have a bolt Swede, but the Ljungman is an
amazing machine. When loading that first round into the chamber, it's
so fascinating watching all those parts sliding around. brilliant
design. then the Egyptiand decided to copy it and make the "HAKIM"
chambered in 30-06 and really kind of butchered the design IMHO.

But harry, i have a couple of 7.5x55 Swiss "Straight pulls" For
military arms, they are absolute works of art. Especially for their
time period they are perfect specimens of Swiss machining.

Extreme accuracy, too!

Tim wrote:
On Jul 29, 7:40 am, hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 05:13:32 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Jul 29, 7:03 am, HK wrote:
. My favorite rifle is a Swedish Mauser in
6.5x55 mm. Not much recoil, and damned accurate.
Absolutely! the Ljungman is one of my favorite rifles and the 6.5 is
an all around sweet cartridge.
I've never shot one, but I've heard good things about it as a solid
all-purpose rifle.
My personal all-around bestest rifle is a older Winchester lever
action that was rechambered and re-barreled to .325 with iron sights.
Custom match ammo and that rifle is as accurate at a laser.
Are you referring to the semi-auto Ljungman? Not one of my favorites. I
prefer the old reliable bolt action swedish mauser for 6.5x55 rounds.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yessir, I was. i dont' have a bolt Swede, but the Ljungman is an
amazing machine. When loading that first round into the chamber, it's
so fascinating watching all those parts sliding around. brilliant
design. then the Egyptiand decided to copy it and make the "HAKIM"
chambered in 30-06 and really kind of butchered the design IMHO.

But harry, i have a couple of 7.5x55 Swiss "Straight pulls" For
military arms, they are absolute works of art. Especially for their
time period they are perfect specimens of Swiss machining.

Extreme accuracy, too!



If I were buying a rifle, I'd want one of the Swedish Mausers or, if I
were buying a new rifle, I'd buy one of the modern knock-off with
"Mauser action." In anything larger than .22LR, I prefer bolt action.

But I am really more into pistols. Here's a target from my day with a
semi-auto shooting .40S&W, 25 yards, offhand.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...us/40-0004.jpg

I shoot .22LR with a nice old Victor:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ous/victor.jpg

and also a Ruger, and I shoot competitively with this work of art:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...us/x-five1.jpg


It's a 9mm Sig Sauer X-5, wearing its everyday grips. It came with a
pair of beautiful wood grips, but I'm wary of scratching them, so I put
the black grips on it. 19-shot mag, one in the pipe = 20 rounds and
amazingly accurate.

hk wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Jul 29, 7:40 am, hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 05:13:32 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Jul 29, 7:03 am, HK wrote:
. My favorite rifle is a Swedish Mauser in
6.5x55 mm. Not much recoil, and damned accurate.
Absolutely! the Ljungman is one of my favorite rifles and the 6.5 is
an all around sweet cartridge.
I've never shot one, but I've heard good things about it as a solid
all-purpose rifle.
My personal all-around bestest rifle is a older Winchester lever
action that was rechambered and re-barreled to .325 with iron sights.
Custom match ammo and that rifle is as accurate at a laser.
Are you referring to the semi-auto Ljungman? Not one of my favorites. I
prefer the old reliable bolt action swedish mauser for 6.5x55
rounds.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yessir, I was. i dont' have a bolt Swede, but the Ljungman is an
amazing machine. When loading that first round into the chamber, it's
so fascinating watching all those parts sliding around. brilliant
design. then the Egyptiand decided to copy it and make the "HAKIM"
chambered in 30-06 and really kind of butchered the design IMHO.

But harry, i have a couple of 7.5x55 Swiss "Straight pulls" For
military arms, they are absolute works of art. Especially for their
time period they are perfect specimens of Swiss machining.

Extreme accuracy, too!



If I were buying a rifle, I'd want one of the Swedish Mausers or, if I
were buying a new rifle, I'd buy one of the modern knock-off with
"Mauser action." In anything larger than .22LR, I prefer bolt action.

But I am really more into pistols. Here's a target from my day with a
semi-auto shooting .40S&W, 25 yards, offhand.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...us/40-0004.jpg

I shoot .22LR with a nice old Victor:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ous/victor.jpg

and also a Ruger, and I shoot competitively with this work of art:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...us/x-five1.jpg


It's a 9mm Sig Sauer X-5, wearing its everyday grips. It came with a
pair of beautiful wood grips, but I'm wary of scratching them, so I put
the black grips on it. 19-shot mag, one in the pipe = 20 rounds and
amazingly accurate.




Here's a foto from the Sig page of the X-5 wearing her Nill grips. It
has an adjustable trigger, but I haven't messed with that yet.

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:29:00 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 05:53:51 -0500, wrote:

There's a big difference between a baseball and a golf ball. Although,
I'd still bet on the club.

The loft of a golf club puts backspin on the ball which lowers the
pressure above the ball, and raises it below it. This tends to hold
the ball up and make it go farther. This is called the Magnus effect.
It works much better with a dimpled ball, which will go aboout twice
as far as a smooth one.

Sure that not the "Mr. Magoo Effect?"
Always think of him when golf comes up.
Don't know why, just do.

--Vic