On Jul 23, 10:55*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:06:52 -0400, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.

I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.

I don't do a lot of fluke fishing. *I have a few fluke rigs, but very
seldom use them.

Just something about fluke fishing annoys me for some reason. :)

It's probably more related to the kind of guys who fish for fluke

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:06:52 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.



I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.

I don't do a lot of fluke fishing. I have a few fluke rigs, but very
seldom use them.

Just something about fluke fishing annoys me for some reason. :)


Really? Well, flounder is among our favorite "eatin'" fish, so bringing
a few fresh ones home is always a treat.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:06:52 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.

I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.

I don't do a lot of fluke fishing. I have a few fluke rigs, but very
seldom use them.

Just something about fluke fishing annoys me for some reason. :)


My father in law lived to fish for flounder. He had a unique way of both
cleaning, fileting and cooking them and they were really good eating. He'd
catch a winter's supply during the summer, freeze 'em and, in his words,
"Nuke" 'em (cook them in the microwave).

I am not a big fish eater, but I have to admit, they were good.

Eisboch

HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.



I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.

They don't have many flounder in Lake Murray.

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:29:44 -0400, RPS wrote:

HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.



I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.

They don't have many flounder in Lake Murray.

Where they do or don't have flounder means nothing. If you have the right
boat you can catch them anywhere.

On Jul 23, 9:51*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:33:10 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Jul 23, 8:17*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
24 pound striper w/live herring this morning off the new SCE&G beach
on Lake Murray this morning.

Nice fish - 80 feet of water and not hanging on structure.
Interesting.

Very different is fresh water striper fishing. *Stripers still like
structure, but it seems they like to hang further off by 20/30 feet
unlike salt water stripers. *I don't do much live bait fishing, so
this has been quite an experience.

Need to explore the lake more - maybe tomorrow just do a scouting trip
and travel the shore line.

Having a blast.

That's how we roll in the south! As for their location, because of
temperature differential, they'll seek a depth that pleases them.

I hooked up with a pro guide yesterday at the ramp - tons of
information and he was kind enough to allow me to shadow him to spots
on the lake that seem pretty productive. *He had an extra passenger,
so I took him on board my boat so it all was good.

I've learned a lot in the past few days including the care and feeding
of the blue back herring - that was really interesting. *Didn't even
think of things like ammonia and Ph balance in the live well - the use
of rock salt and ice was something new to me too. *I think I'm going
to have to rerig myh live well with carbon filters and change the
recycle system a little. *The next few days of looking into this will
be fun.

Blueback's are hard to keep alive even with the best of conditions. A
round tank is really helpful, believe it or not.

By the way, if you ever get here to fish this lake, stop at Lake World
near the dam - guy is very informative, friendly and is not shy about
sharing information. *Decent prices too.

Will do, was actually talking to a fishing buddy about getting up
there.

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.

One technique when they are feeding well, is finding a bunch of
stripers, noting the depth they are at, then downlining live bait. If
they are shallow, then flatline, using little weight like a splitshot,
then when you are trolling around the pod of stripers, then bait will
rise and fall with the boat. Also, keep a rig with a 1/2 oz. white
bucktail jig ready, when you see a baitfish frenzy on top of the
water, start ripping that jig into them.

One thing of note - the FLW bass tour is here for the big tournament
in another week and the pros are having a tough time with the black
bass. *Black bass aren't cooperating - all deep and filling up on
herring. *The pros are having trouble adjusting.

Interesting! And thanks for the update.

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:12:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Jul 23, 9:51*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I've learned a lot in the past few days including the care and feeding
of the blue back herring - that was really interesting. *Didn't even
think of things like ammonia and Ph balance in the live well - the use
of rock salt and ice was something new to me too. *I think I'm going
to have to rerig myh live well with carbon filters and change the
recycle system a little. *The next few days of looking into this will
be fun.

Blueback's are hard to keep alive even with the best of conditions. A
round tank is really helpful, believe it or not.

Yeah - that was interesting. Apparently, they like to hang in the
corners of the tank and deplete the oxygen level there. You wouldn't
think that in a 35 gallon live well that wouildn't be a problem, but
after thinking about it, makes some sense.

Also something that I would have never thought of - the strength of
the recycle system in terms of water pressure - you don't need a lot
of power because they will hang near the spray and if it's strong, it
will know off their scales.

It has been a learning experience.

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.

One technique when they are feeding well, is finding a bunch of
stripers, noting the depth they are at, then downlining live bait. If
they are shallow, then flatline, using little weight like a splitshot,
then when you are trolling around the pod of stripers, then bait will
rise and fall with the boat. Also, keep a rig with a 1/2 oz. white
bucktail jig ready, when you see a baitfish frenzy on top of the
water, start ripping that jig into them.

Cool - that's good info.

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:51:16 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:33:10 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Jul 23, 8:17*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
24 pound striper w/live herring this morning off the new SCE&G beach
on Lake Murray this morning.

Nice fish - 80 feet of water and not hanging on structure.
Interesting.

Very different is fresh water striper fishing. *Stripers still like
structure, but it seems they like to hang further off by 20/30 feet
unlike salt water stripers. *I don't do much live bait fishing, so
this has been quite an experience.

Need to explore the lake more - maybe tomorrow just do a scouting trip
and travel the shore line.

Having a blast.

That's how we roll in the south! As for their location, because of
temperature differential, they'll seek a depth that pleases them.

I hooked up with a pro guide yesterday at the ramp - tons of
information and he was kind enough to allow me to shadow him to spots
on the lake that seem pretty productive. He had an extra passenger,
so I took him on board my boat so it all was good.

I've learned a lot in the past few days including the care and feeding
of the blue back herring - that was really interesting. Didn't even
think of things like ammonia and Ph balance in the live well - the use
of rock salt and ice was something new to me too. I think I'm going
to have to rerig myh live well with carbon filters and change the
recycle system a little. The next few days of looking into this will
be fun.

By the way, if you ever get here to fish this lake, stop at Lake World
near the dam - guy is very informative, friendly and is not shy about
sharing information. Decent prices too.

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.

One thing of note - the FLW bass tour is here for the big tournament
in another week and the pros are having a tough time with the black
bass. Black bass aren't cooperating - all deep and filling up on
herring. The pros are having trouble adjusting.

~~ snerk ~~

You take extra good care of those Herring. They all deserve it.

Have a great time.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
24 pound striper w/live herring this morning off the new SCE&G beach
on Lake Murray this morning.

Nice fish - 80 feet of water and not hanging on structure.
Interesting.

Very different is fresh water striper fishing. Stripers still like
structure, but it seems they like to hang further off by 20/30 feet
unlike salt water stripers. I don't do much live bait fishing, so
this has been quite an experience.

Need to explore the lake more - maybe tomorrow just do a scouting trip
and travel the shore line.

Having a blast.

Not too shabby.

Now did that fish give you a good fight or did it roll over and play
dead for you?

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in
:

24 pound striper w/live herring this morning off the new SCE&G beach
on Lake Murray this morning.

Nice fish - 80 feet of water and not hanging on structure.
Interesting.

Very different is fresh water striper fishing. Stripers still like
structure, but it seems they like to hang further off by 20/30 feet
unlike salt water stripers. I don't do much live bait fishing, so
this has been quite an experience.

Need to explore the lake more - maybe tomorrow just do a scouting trip
and travel the shore line.

Having a blast.


Pshaw....little minnow! Use bigger hooks so the l'il ones will leave the
bait alone. G'won back out there with the boatwinch. There's lots bigger
ones than this l'il fellow waitin' to eat him!

Silly boy.....Usta fishin' in Yankee waters....tsk tsk....

I saw a shark fin swimmin' up the Ashley out front, 8 miles from the harbor
this morning. At first, I thought it was kinda far upriver for those
nuclear sub boys to be joy ridin' in the fast attacks, but then I noticed
there wasn't a hole in the top of the conning tower for the captain to
stand in and no antennas, just fin. You want 'im? Even the big alligators
were climbin' up into the swamp grass to stay out of his way!