On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:12:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Jul 23, 9:51*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I've learned a lot in the past few days including the care and feeding
of the blue back herring - that was really interesting. *Didn't even
think of things like ammonia and Ph balance in the live well - the use
of rock salt and ice was something new to me too. *I think I'm going
to have to rerig myh live well with carbon filters and change the
recycle system a little. *The next few days of looking into this will
be fun.

Blueback's are hard to keep alive even with the best of conditions. A
round tank is really helpful, believe it or not.

Yeah - that was interesting. Apparently, they like to hang in the
corners of the tank and deplete the oxygen level there. You wouldn't
think that in a 35 gallon live well that wouildn't be a problem, but
after thinking about it, makes some sense.

Also something that I would have never thought of - the strength of
the recycle system in terms of water pressure - you don't need a lot
of power because they will hang near the spray and if it's strong, it
will know off their scales.

It has been a learning experience.

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.

One technique when they are feeding well, is finding a bunch of
stripers, noting the depth they are at, then downlining live bait. If
they are shallow, then flatline, using little weight like a splitshot,
then when you are trolling around the pod of stripers, then bait will
rise and fall with the boat. Also, keep a rig with a 1/2 oz. white
bucktail jig ready, when you see a baitfish frenzy on top of the
water, start ripping that jig into them.

Cool - that's good info.

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:06:52 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.

I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.

I don't do a lot of fluke fishing. I have a few fluke rigs, but very
seldom use them.

Just something about fluke fishing annoys me for some reason. :)

On Jul 23, 10:55*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:06:52 -0400, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.

I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.

I don't do a lot of fluke fishing. *I have a few fluke rigs, but very
seldom use them.

Just something about fluke fishing annoys me for some reason. :)

It's probably more related to the kind of guys who fish for fluke

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:06:52 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.



I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.

I don't do a lot of fluke fishing. I have a few fluke rigs, but very
seldom use them.

Just something about fluke fishing annoys me for some reason. :)


Really? Well, flounder is among our favorite "eatin'" fish, so bringing
a few fresh ones home is always a treat.

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:01:43 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Jul 23, 10:55*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:06:52 -0400, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.

I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.

I don't do a lot of fluke fishing. *I have a few fluke rigs, but very
seldom use them.

Just something about fluke fishing annoys me for some reason. :)

It's probably more related to the kind of guys who fish for fluke

Maybe. I use big baits looking for big fish and always catch shorts
or marginal keepers. :)

Frustrating.

I know those big doormats are out there - I see other guys catching
them - I just can't seem to get the right drift or something.

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:07:21 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:06:52 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.

I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.

I don't do a lot of fluke fishing. I have a few fluke rigs, but very
seldom use them.

Just something about fluke fishing annoys me for some reason. :)

Really? Well, flounder is among our favorite "eatin'" fish, so bringing
a few fresh ones home is always a treat.

I think it's the way I learned to fish for fluke. I learned using
hand lines believe it or not - never used a rod and reel for it. I've
never learned how to feel the fish out with a rod and reel.

Now that I think about it, I might try handlining in the Fall.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:07:21 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:06:52 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.
I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.
I don't do a lot of fluke fishing. I have a few fluke rigs, but very
seldom use them.

Just something about fluke fishing annoys me for some reason. :)
Really? Well, flounder is among our favorite "eatin'" fish, so bringing
a few fresh ones home is always a treat.

I think it's the way I learned to fish for fluke. I learned using
hand lines believe it or not - never used a rod and reel for it. I've
never learned how to feel the fish out with a rod and reel.

Now that I think about it, I might try handlining in the Fall.


Well, it is a bit different catching flounder. It was a lot easier in NE
Florida, because the ICW and its creeks there are packed with oyster
bars, and fairly light tackle, a livie, and a light touch would produce
a flounder or a redfish, and if the water were a little deeper, maybe a
seatrout.

Around here, I head straight across Chesapeake Bay to the shoreline and
look for the 20' drop point and "shell sign" areas. Again, though, the
secret for me has been light tackle, a livie if I have it, or a small
chunk of any sort of bait if I do not, and sometimes a plastic. I use
small circle hooks, debarbed.

I haven't used a handline in at least 50 years.

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:51:16 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:33:10 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Jul 23, 8:17*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
24 pound striper w/live herring this morning off the new SCE&G beach
on Lake Murray this morning.

Nice fish - 80 feet of water and not hanging on structure.
Interesting.

Very different is fresh water striper fishing. *Stripers still like
structure, but it seems they like to hang further off by 20/30 feet
unlike salt water stripers. *I don't do much live bait fishing, so
this has been quite an experience.

Need to explore the lake more - maybe tomorrow just do a scouting trip
and travel the shore line.

Having a blast.

That's how we roll in the south! As for their location, because of
temperature differential, they'll seek a depth that pleases them.

I hooked up with a pro guide yesterday at the ramp - tons of
information and he was kind enough to allow me to shadow him to spots
on the lake that seem pretty productive. He had an extra passenger,
so I took him on board my boat so it all was good.

I've learned a lot in the past few days including the care and feeding
of the blue back herring - that was really interesting. Didn't even
think of things like ammonia and Ph balance in the live well - the use
of rock salt and ice was something new to me too. I think I'm going
to have to rerig myh live well with carbon filters and change the
recycle system a little. The next few days of looking into this will
be fun.

By the way, if you ever get here to fish this lake, stop at Lake World
near the dam - guy is very informative, friendly and is not shy about
sharing information. Decent prices too.

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.

One thing of note - the FLW bass tour is here for the big tournament
in another week and the pros are having a tough time with the black
bass. Black bass aren't cooperating - all deep and filling up on
herring. The pros are having trouble adjusting.

~~ snerk ~~

You take extra good care of those Herring. They all deserve it.

Have a great time.

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:32:10 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:07:21 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:06:52 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.

I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.

I don't do a lot of fluke fishing. I have a few fluke rigs, but very
seldom use them.

Just something about fluke fishing annoys me for some reason. :)

Really? Well, flounder is among our favorite "eatin'" fish, so bringing
a few fresh ones home is always a treat.

I think it's the way I learned to fish for fluke. I learned using
hand lines believe it or not - never used a rod and reel for it. I've
never learned how to feel the fish out with a rod and reel.

Now that I think about it, I might try handlining in the Fall.

You need to get out on the bay with Harry. That guy *knows* how to get
flounder!

On Jul 23, 1:01*pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:32:10 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing





wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:07:21 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:06:52 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I was using a drop shot technique to get the herring down - I normally
don't drop shot a lot preferring more natural techniques with
artificial lures - this live bait thing has been an experience.

I use the drop shot to get a chunk of bait or even a live minnow if I
have one...down to the bottom, but not actually on the bottom...maybe a
foot or less off the bottom. It's a killer for flounder.

I don't do a lot of fluke fishing. *I have a few fluke rigs, but very
seldom use them.

Just something about fluke fishing annoys me for some reason. :)

Really? Well, flounder is among our favorite "eatin'" fish, so bringing
a few fresh ones home is always a treat.

I think it's the way I learned to fish for fluke. *I learned using
hand lines believe it or not - never used a rod and reel for it. *I've
never learned how to feel the fish out with a rod and reel.

Now that I think about it, I might try handlining in the Fall.

You need to get out on the bay with Harry. That guy *knows* how to get
flounder!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And he knows all about anything else in the universe, too! Just ask
him!