On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:59:11 +0000, Larry wrote:



Drop by, I'll get you aboard to peer into that tanker's tank. It's
nasty!

Nobody but crew wearing anti-static should get close to that.

--Vic

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:04:40 -0400, "Eisboch"
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"Eisboch" wrote in
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I think we are talking two different things here. I am not referring
to motor oil. I am talking about gasoline.
The point the chemist was making was that gas is gas when initially
refined from crude. What differentiates the different brands is the
type and amount of additives they use. Mobil claims to have twice the
amount required by EPA standards. Chevron touts it's "Techron" or
whatever. Shell uses their proprietary "V Power" in the high test.
Each of these additives are required to minimize deposits, but each is
a different formulation or amount.

So, gas may be gas. But the gas you buy at Mobil is different than
the gas you buy at Shell ... or Chevron. That was his point, and I
found it interesting that he recommended rotating the brand every 5k
miles to get the full benefit of each of these different additives.

Eisboch



Ok, so where do they take the Hess Gas the trucking contractor filled up
with at 6AM this morning on hsi way to the Shell stations to blend in
this amazing array of chemical magic? There is no Shell refinery within
a thousand miles of Charleston, so it didn't go there. I can tell
because it came from Hess, where everybody fills up their trucks, right
under the Mark Clark Expressway bridge at the Hess tank farm which comes
from the tankers on the dock. All the gas leaving the Hess dump is
exactly the same....and there's NO PLACE for each company to fill up on
additives in between the Hess dump and the local station!

So, knowing this, the gas at Mobil ISN'T any different than the gas at
Raceway because they came to town in the same nasty tanker floating on
top of a film of seawater ballast left over from the last trip.

Drop by, I'll get you aboard to peer into that tanker's tank. It's
nasty!

GAS is a commodity traded on the open market many times before it ends
up in your tank....from the lowest bidder through the jobber network.

It's not CHEVRON TECHRON. They don't sell that at the commodity
exchange. They sell GAS. I'm not even sure they sell different grades
any more! I don't see high test listed differently from GASoline.


Ok. You've made your points. I've made mine. It really doesn't matter
when the price is all within a few cents of each other.

BTW .... you are wrong.

: -)

Put twelve gallons in the Ranger this morning - $3.50 a gallon.

WHOO HOO!!!

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On Jul 28, 1:38 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:



Hmmmm .....
I am about due for a little trip in the Sprinter.
Eisboch
Cool.. What's a sprinter? Will it tow this down?http://www.yaimkool.com
I'll bring three little mudwhumpers (motorbikes) and a bottle of
Beam.... black of course.

I'd show you, but JimH might pull a nutty.

So'k I did a google..
Yes, it will tow that ....whatever it is .....

it's my boat.. sniff...

Eisboch


I know. Just kidding.

Eisboch



http://www.dodge.com/en/2008/sprinter/

Nice looking, but it is still a Dodge.

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
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Hmmmm .....
I am about due for a little trip in the Sprinter.
Eisboch
Cool.. What's a sprinter? Will it tow this
down?http://www.yaimkool.com
I'll bring three little mudwhumpers (motorbikes) and a bottle of
Beam.... black of course.

I'd show you, but JimH might pull a nutty.

So'k I did a google..
Yes, it will tow that ....whatever it is .....

it's my boat.. sniff...

Eisboch


I know. Just kidding.

Eisboch



http://www.dodge.com/en/2008/sprinter/

Nice looking, but it is still a Dodge.


IIRC, thats a Mercedes under the hood.

Vic Smith wrote in
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Wouldn't be a big trick for the Hess depot to have additive dispensers
for the companies it's serving. Not saying they do. But if I cared
that much about it, I would find out. If not, you're right.

--Vic



There's only one line and they fill all the tanks from the same huge
overhead pipes really fast....as fast as they can. The drivers are paid by
the load...

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Hmmmm .....
I am about due for a little trip in the Sprinter.
Eisboch
Cool.. What's a sprinter? Will it tow this
down?http://www.yaimkool.com
I'll bring three little mudwhumpers (motorbikes) and a bottle of
Beam.... black of course.

I'd show you, but JimH might pull a nutty.

So'k I did a google..
Yes, it will tow that ....whatever it is .....

it's my boat.. sniff...

Eisboch


I know. Just kidding.

Eisboch



http://www.dodge.com/en/2008/sprinter/

Nice looking, but it is still a Dodge.


IIRC, thats a Mercedes under the hood.



The whole thing is a Mercedes in reality. The only thing "Dodge" about it
is the badge.
Same thing with the Frieghtliner version.

Mercedes has been making this van in various models for years for the
European market.

Eisboch

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On Jul 28, 1:38 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:



Hmmmm .....
I am about due for a little trip in the Sprinter.
Eisboch
Cool.. What's a sprinter? Will it tow this
down?http://www.yaimkool.com
I'll bring three little mudwhumpers (motorbikes) and a bottle of
Beam.... black of course.

I'd show you, but JimH might pull a nutty.

So'k I did a google..
Yes, it will tow that ....whatever it is .....

it's my boat.. sniff...

Eisboch


I know. Just kidding.

Eisboch



http://www.dodge.com/en/2008/sprinter/

Nice looking, but it is still a Dodge.


IIRC, thats a Mercedes under the hood.

Damn, you are correct. That is one way to improve Dodge's image, sell
Mercedes rebranded as a Dodge.

Now that will really **** off JimH, that damn Eisboch owns a Mercedes
Full Size Van.

Not only a good looking van, but a superior engineering van. You know
that cost a tab bit more than a set of knives.

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On Jul 28, 1:38 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:



Hmmmm .....
I am about due for a little trip in the Sprinter.
Eisboch
Cool.. What's a sprinter? Will it tow this
down?http://www.yaimkool.com
I'll bring three little mudwhumpers (motorbikes) and a bottle of
Beam.... black of course.

I'd show you, but JimH might pull a nutty.
So'k I did a google..
Yes, it will tow that ....whatever it is .....
it's my boat.. sniff...

Eisboch

I know. Just kidding.

Eisboch


http://www.dodge.com/en/2008/sprinter/

Nice looking, but it is still a Dodge.

IIRC, thats a Mercedes under the hood.



The whole thing is a Mercedes in reality. The only thing "Dodge" about it
is the badge.
Same thing with the Frieghtliner version.

Mercedes has been making this van in various models for years for the
European market.

Eisboch



Grasshopper, that is one good looking well built van , I hope it brings
you joy to drive a quality built full sized van.

On Jul 28, 9:34*pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
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On Jul 28, 1:38 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:

Hmmmm .....
I am about due for a little trip in the Sprinter.
Eisboch
Cool.. What's a sprinter? Will it tow this
down?http://www.yaimkool.com
I'll bring three little mudwhumpers (motorbikes) and a bottle of
Beam.... black of course.

I'd show you, but JimH might pull a nutty.
So'k I did a google..
Yes, it will tow that ....whatever it is .....
it's my boat.. sniff...

Eisboch

I know. *Just kidding.

Eisboch

http://www.dodge.com/en/2008/sprinter/

Nice looking, but it is still a Dodge. *

IIRC, thats a Mercedes under the hood.

The whole thing is a Mercedes in reality. *The only thing "Dodge" about it
is the badge.
Same thing with the Frieghtliner version.

Mercedes has been making this van in various models for years for the
European market.

Eisboch

Grasshopper, that is one good looking well built van , I hope it brings
you joy to drive a quality built full sized van. *

Nice flip flop. At what point did you start sucking
Richard's............

Never mind.

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On Jul 28, 9:34 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
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On Jul 28, 3:40 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
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On Jul 28, 1:38 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
Hmmmm .....
I am about due for a little trip in the Sprinter.
Eisboch
Cool.. What's a sprinter? Will it tow this
down?http://www.yaimkool.com
I'll bring three little mudwhumpers (motorbikes) and a bottle of
Beam.... black of course.
I'd show you, but JimH might pull a nutty.
So'k I did a google..
Yes, it will tow that ....whatever it is .....
it's my boat.. sniff...
Eisboch
I know. Just kidding.
Eisboch
http://www.dodge.com/en/2008/sprinter/
Nice looking, but it is still a Dodge.
IIRC, thats a Mercedes under the hood.
The whole thing is a Mercedes in reality. The only thing "Dodge" about it
is the badge.
Same thing with the Frieghtliner version.
Mercedes has been making this van in various models for years for the
European market.
Eisboch
Grasshopper, that is one good looking well built van , I hope it brings
you joy to drive a quality built full sized van.

Nice flip flop. At what point did you start sucking
Richard's............

Never mind.

I flip flopped as soon as I knew it was not a Dodge, but really a Mercedes.

I am biased against Chrysler products, and I and the rest of the world
do find Mercedes to be a well built quality auto mfg'er.

While I really don't care if anyone else own a Chrysler, based upon
Chrysler products I have driven (but never owned) from have found that
they do not hold up. They shake rattle and roll, and sound like they
are falling apart. Which is why they don't hold up their value as well
as other cars.