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Porsche Gas Mileage
In these days of high fuel prices and being "green", I love it when people smugly comment about how my 911 TT must be "terrible" in terms of gas mileage. Today, for kicks, I reset the car computer that calculates MPG as I entered onto a limited access highway heading back from the Cape. I drove for approximately 35 minutes, at speeds ranging from 60 -75 mph, mostly 65-70 mph. I didn't do anything special in terms of driving techniques ... just drove normally. At the end of the 35 minutes, the computer calculated mileage display read "28.9 mpg". My "normal" average of combined around town and highway driving is usually about 20-21 mpg unless I have done some sustained "spirited" driving. Not bad, all things considered, and the look on people's faces when I tell them what it gets for mileage is usually one of disbelief. It really is an amazing car, given 445hp, it's performance and it's fuel economy. I should drive it all the time. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
In these days of high fuel prices and being "green", I love it when people smugly comment about how my 911 TT must be "terrible" in terms of gas mileage. Today, for kicks, I reset the car computer that calculates MPG as I entered onto a limited access highway heading back from the Cape. I drove for approximately 35 minutes, at speeds ranging from 60 -75 mph, mostly 65-70 mph. I didn't do anything special in terms of driving techniques ... just drove normally. At the end of the 35 minutes, the computer calculated mileage display read "28.9 mpg". My "normal" average of combined around town and highway driving is usually about 20-21 mpg unless I have done some sustained "spirited" driving. Not bad, all things considered, and the look on people's faces when I tell them what it gets for mileage is usually one of disbelief. It really is an amazing car, given 445hp, it's performance and it's fuel economy. I should drive it all the time. Eisboch I'd be very happy with 20mpg. My X5 4.8 has horrible gas mileage - 18 average. We did order the Z4 3.0si - not as a replacement - and it is advertised as 18/27. It will be interesting to see what the real number is. |
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"DK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: In these days of high fuel prices and being "green", I love it when people smugly comment about how my 911 TT must be "terrible" in terms of gas mileage. Today, for kicks, I reset the car computer that calculates MPG as I entered onto a limited access highway heading back from the Cape. I drove for approximately 35 minutes, at speeds ranging from 60 -75 mph, mostly 65-70 mph. I didn't do anything special in terms of driving techniques ... just drove normally. At the end of the 35 minutes, the computer calculated mileage display read "28.9 mpg". My "normal" average of combined around town and highway driving is usually about 20-21 mpg unless I have done some sustained "spirited" driving. Not bad, all things considered, and the look on people's faces when I tell them what it gets for mileage is usually one of disbelief. It really is an amazing car, given 445hp, it's performance and it's fuel economy. I should drive it all the time. Eisboch I'd be very happy with 20mpg. My X5 4.8 has horrible gas mileage - 18 average. We did order the Z4 3.0si - not as a replacement - and it is advertised as 18/27. It will be interesting to see what the real number is. I think the Porsche's advantage is light weight, aerodynamics and an engine that is basically loafing along at 75 mph. It isn't even breathing hard, the turbos aren't doing anything and it's operating at a fraction of it's capability. Eisboch |
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On Jul 11, 7:11*pm, DK wrote:
Eisboch wrote: In these days of high fuel prices and being "green", I love it when people smugly comment about how my 911 TT *must be "terrible" in terms of gas mileage. Today, for kicks, I reset the car computer that calculates MPG as I entered onto a limited access highway heading back from the Cape. I drove for approximately 35 minutes, at speeds ranging from 60 -75 mph, mostly 65-70 mph. *I didn't do anything special in terms of driving techniques ... just drove normally. At the end of the 35 minutes, the computer calculated mileage display read "28.9 mpg". My "normal" average of combined around town and highway driving is usually about 20-21 mpg unless I have done some sustained "spirited" driving. Not bad, all things considered, and the look on people's faces when I tell them what it gets for mileage is usually one of disbelief. It really is an amazing car, given 445hp, it's performance and it's fuel economy. I should drive it all the time. Eisboch I'd be very happy with 20mpg. *My X5 4.8 has horrible gas mileage - 18 average. *We did order the Z4 3.0si - not as a replacement - and it is advertised as 18/27. *It will be interesting to see what the real number is.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My '90 Grand Marquis (Colony Park) wagon will get 23-24 on the 4 lane w/ cruise on 65. Use air and it drops to about 21 +/- the wifes 2003 Chry Town and Country only gets about 23 w/air on and 65. So I figure that even though it's still lousy by todays standards, I'm not doing so bad, besides. It will pull my boats |
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"Tim" wrote in message ... My '90 Grand Marquis (Colony Park) wagon will get 23-24 on the 4 lane w/ cruise on 65. Use air and it drops to about 21 +/- the wifes 2003 Chry Town and Country only gets about 23 w/air on and 65. So I figure that even though it's still lousy by todays standards, I'm not doing so bad, besides. It will pull my boats ------------------------- I tease Mrs. E. about her Navigator. The best it can do is around 12 mpg, regardless of how light your foot is. However, it *will* pull a boat or trailer. It sorta cracks me up. Of all our vehicles, the Porsche, with the highest horsepower and performance, gets the best fuel mileage. The Sprinter (Mercedes diesel) RV gets second best, followed by the Ranger PU, her Navigator, the old GTO and the old Ford. The boat comes in dead last. Actually, the Harleys get the best mileage, come to think of it. I just haven't done much riding this year yet. Eisboch |
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On Jul 11, 7:32*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message Actually, the Harleys get the best mileage, come to think of it. *I just haven't done much riding this year yet. Eisboch maybe so, but the fuel to weight (not counting "protection") still blows. |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message ... My '90 Grand Marquis (Colony Park) wagon will get 23-24 on the 4 lane w/ cruise on 65. Use air and it drops to about 21 +/- the wifes 2003 Chry Town and Country only gets about 23 w/air on and 65. So I figure that even though it's still lousy by todays standards, I'm not doing so bad, besides. It will pull my boats ------------------------- I tease Mrs. E. about her Navigator. The best it can do is around 12 mpg, regardless of how light your foot is. However, it *will* pull a boat or trailer. It sorta cracks me up. Of all our vehicles, the Porsche, with the highest horsepower and performance, gets the best fuel mileage. The Sprinter (Mercedes diesel) RV gets second best, followed by the Ranger PU, her Navigator, the old GTO and the old Ford. The boat comes in dead last. Actually, the Harleys get the best mileage, come to think of it. I just haven't done much riding this year yet. Eisboch Actually my boats get the best fuel mileage....but then they still have the Rock River here in Winnebago Co., Il. closed. The DNR opened it last week but the sheriff (wisely) issued a "no wake" limitation. That, along with the fact that all of the boat ramps are still under water and closed, effectively kept the river closed. Now, the rain, here and in Southern Wisconsin has caused the DNR to close it completely again. Expected to go back up 2 ft. in next couple of days. I'm afraid to see what additional erosion my river bank has experienced. Tom G. |
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On Jul 11, 8:11*pm, DK wrote:
I'd be very happy with 20mpg. *My X5 4.8 has horrible gas mileage - 18 average. *We did order the Z4 3.0si - not as a replacement - and it is advertised as 18/27. *It will be interesting to see what the real number is.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I think this is the range that we're in. We have the Mercedes SLK-55 AMG (5.5L V8, 360hp) and it get about 20mpg regardless of where or how it's driven (well, unless I get 'spirited' - then it DROPS.) Luckily we have a Jetta TDI as our daily driver and that hits the 45-47mpg range. I wouldn't want to have to drive the SLK (with the premium gas) to work everyday ! ---------------------------------- GDSmith Harpers Ferry, WV FOR SALE: 2003 Baja 242 Islander http://ICanHelp56.homestead.com/Baja001.html |
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wrote in message ... On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:44:38 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: In these days of high fuel prices and being "green", I love it when people smugly comment about how my 911 TT must be "terrible" in terms of gas mileage. Today, for kicks, I reset the car computer that calculates MPG as I entered onto a limited access highway heading back from the Cape. I drove for approximately 35 minutes, at speeds ranging from 60 -75 mph, mostly 65-70 mph. I didn't do anything special in terms of driving techniques ... just drove normally. At the end of the 35 minutes, the computer calculated mileage display read "28.9 mpg". My "normal" average of combined around town and highway driving is usually about 20-21 mpg unless I have done some sustained "spirited" driving. Not bad, all things considered, and the look on people's faces when I tell them what it gets for mileage is usually one of disbelief. It really is an amazing car, given 445hp, it's performance and it's fuel economy. I should drive it all the time. Eisboch You are doing about as well as I do in a 2 liter Honda Prelude (avg about 23-24). I can squeeze 31-32 out of it if I use all the "Mobil Gas Economy Run" tricks I know, not stuck in traffic and stay off the Frankly, I am not sure I believe the computer. I just filled it up and will check it the old fashioned way ..... mileage driven, gallons used. interstate. |
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On Jul 11, 7:44*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
In these days of high fuel prices and being "green", I love it when people smugly comment about how my 911 TT *must be "terrible" in terms of gas mileage. Today, for kicks, I reset the car computer that calculates MPG as I entered onto a limited access highway heading back from the Cape. I drove for approximately 35 minutes, at speeds ranging from 60 -75 mph, mostly 65-70 mph. *I didn't do anything special in terms of driving techniques ... just drove normally. At the end of the 35 minutes, the computer calculated mileage display read "28.9 mpg". My "normal" average of combined around town and highway driving is usually about 20-21 mpg unless I have done some sustained "spirited" driving. Not bad, all things considered, and the look on people's faces when I tell them what it gets for mileage is usually one of disbelief. It really is an amazing car, given 445hp, it's performance and it's fuel economy. I should drive it all the time. Eisboch For a highway only trip that is not surprising.. As you stated in another reply to this thread that car is light and the body is aerodynamically designed. Let us know what the old fashioned (the method I use) method shows. |
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On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:19:45 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote: On Jul 11, 7:44?pm, "Eisboch" wrote: In these days of high fuel prices and being "green", I love it when people smugly comment about how my 911 TT ?must be "terrible" in terms of gas mileage. Today, for kicks, I reset the car computer that calculates MPG as I entered onto a limited access highway heading back from the Cape. I drove for approximately 35 minutes, at speeds ranging from 60 -75 mph, mostly 65-70 mph. ?I didn't do anything special in terms of driving techniques ... just drove normally. At the end of the 35 minutes, the computer calculated mileage display read "28.9 mpg". My "normal" average of combined around town and highway driving is usually about 20-21 mpg unless I have done some sustained "spirited" driving. Not bad, all things considered, and the look on people's faces when I tell them what it gets for mileage is usually one of disbelief. It really is an amazing car, given 445hp, it's performance and it's fuel economy. I should drive it all the time. Eisboch For a highway only trip that is not surprising.. As you stated in another reply to this thread that car is light and the body is aerodynamically designed. Let us know what the old fashioned (the method I use) method shows. It's all in how they engineer the gearing. Like Eisboch said, the engine is loafing - and it's got the torque to loaf. I'm guessing that's one reason pushrod cars like the GM's I drive outdo the OHC Accords and Camrys in highway MPG - last I looked anyway. I think the Impalas with the 3.4 (3.5?), which are heavier and roomier than the competition beat them in highway MPG. The GM lockup torque converter does wonders for milage starting at about 35-40 mph. Not looking for an argument about pushrod vs OHC, or claiming any special knowledge about it. I agree on not putting complete trust in the computer generated MPG figures. "Trust but verify." Last year on the way to Florida in my '97 Lumina 3.1 I used the fill up method during the trip. After a couple tanks at 65 mph cruise control, no A/C , it was a hair below 32 mpg. I lost my self control after that and was doing 75-85, with hilly/mountainous terrain to boot. I checked again and it had dropped to about 30 mpg. I think I did a final when I got home and it was about 29 mpg. I don't have a good handle on the "city" commuting MPG because I never checked it closely. Too variable and dependent on traffic conditions. I'd guess about 20 mpg for what "city" driving we do, which doesn't involve a lot of creeping and idling. --Vic |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:44:38 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: In these days of high fuel prices and being "green", I love it when people smugly comment about how my 911 TT must be "terrible" in terms of gas mileage. Today, for kicks, I reset the car computer that calculates MPG as I entered onto a limited access highway heading back from the Cape. I drove for approximately 35 minutes, at speeds ranging from 60 -75 mph, mostly 65-70 mph. I didn't do anything special in terms of driving techniques ... just drove normally. At the end of the 35 minutes, the computer calculated mileage display read "28.9 mpg". My "normal" average of combined around town and highway driving is usually about 20-21 mpg unless I have done some sustained "spirited" driving. Not bad, all things considered, and the look on people's faces when I tell them what it gets for mileage is usually one of disbelief. It really is an amazing car, given 445hp, it's performance and it's fuel economy. I should drive it all the time. Eisboch You are doing about as well as I do in a 2 liter Honda Prelude (avg about 23-24). I can squeeze 31-32 out of it if I use all the "Mobil Gas Economy Run" tricks I know, not stuck in traffic and stay off the Frankly, I am not sure I believe the computer. I just filled it up and will check it the old fashioned way ..... mileage driven, gallons used. interstate. I constantly check the gas mileage on both my Buick Lucernes. Both car computers err to the high side between 0.3 and 1.1 MPG. The error doesn't matter if the driving is around town or on the highway for extended periods. |
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On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:44:38 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
In these days of high fuel prices and being "green", I love it when people smugly comment about how my 911 TT must be "terrible" in terms of gas mileage. Today, for kicks, I reset the car computer that calculates MPG as I entered onto a limited access highway heading back from the Cape. I drove for approximately 35 minutes, at speeds ranging from 60 -75 mph, mostly 65-70 mph. I didn't do anything special in terms of driving techniques ... just drove normally. At the end of the 35 minutes, the computer calculated mileage display read "28.9 mpg". My "normal" average of combined around town and highway driving is usually about 20-21 mpg unless I have done some sustained "spirited" driving. Not bad, all things considered, and the look on people's faces when I tell them what it gets for mileage is usually one of disbelief. It really is an amazing car, given 445hp, it's performance and it's fuel economy. I should drive it all the time. Doesn't surprise me in the least. It' s a properly engineered car with engineered gearing and weight to horsepower ratios. Add in the aero packages, the fact that it's properly balanced and you've got efficient power application up the hoo hoo. My 'Vette is an entirely different story. When I took the blower off and downsized from twin 950 Holleys to single, put the rear end back to street legal and changed over from street drag slicks to street legal tires, the mileage went up marginally - from about 6 mpg to maybe 10. I went from 645 hp on a dyno to just south of 400 hp. Think it might help if I took the 3/4 cam and NOX out of it? :) |
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On Jul 12, 9:10*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:44:38 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: In these days of high fuel prices and being "green", I love it when people smugly comment about how my 911 TT *must be "terrible" in terms of gas mileage. Today, for kicks, I reset the car computer that calculates MPG as I entered onto a limited access highway heading back from the Cape. I drove for approximately 35 minutes, at speeds ranging from 60 -75 mph, mostly 65-70 mph. *I didn't do anything special in terms of driving techniques ... just drove normally. At the end of the 35 minutes, the computer calculated mileage display read "28.9 mpg". My "normal" average of combined around town and highway driving is usually about 20-21 mpg unless I have done some sustained "spirited" driving. Not bad, all things considered, and the look on people's faces when I tell them what it gets for mileage is usually one of disbelief. It really is an amazing car, given 445hp, it's performance and it's fuel economy. I should drive it all the time. Doesn't surprise me in the least. *It' s a properly engineered car with engineered gearing and weight to horsepower ratios. Add in the aero packages, the fact that it's properly balanced and you've got efficient power application up the hoo hoo. As I already said. |
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Eisboch wrote:
Frankly, I am not sure I believe the computer. I just filled it up and will check it the old fashioned way ..... mileage driven, gallons used. I think I'm getting a bit more in the X5, too. I'll have to try that. Have you ever run mid-grade in your German cars? I know the computers will adjust and the fuel economy can decrease. |
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"DK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: Frankly, I am not sure I believe the computer. I just filled it up and will check it the old fashioned way ..... mileage driven, gallons used. I think I'm getting a bit more in the X5, too. I'll have to try that. Have you ever run mid-grade in your German cars? I know the computers will adjust and the fuel economy can decrease. I never tried anything but "high test". When we had the BMW's, the price of gas wasn't an issue, so there was no reason. One downside of the Porsche is that it calls for 93 octane (minimum). The only place I can get it is at Sunoco, who still carries 93 "Ultra". I've often considered taking it over to the little Plymouth airport where I took flying lessons and see if I could buy half a tank of 100 octane aviation fuel to mix with the 93 octane. Problem is that I think aviation gas is still leaded, and it would probably screw something up. Mrs.E. had a good one the other day. Her Navigator calls for "high test" (91 octane). She was giving me a ride back from the Cape after I brought the boat down there and I noticed that her left directional was blinking twice as fast as the right. I mentioned to her that one of the blinker lights was probably out. Her response? "Oh .... is *that* what it is? I thought it was because I've been using "regular" gas instead of "high test" ever since the price of gas hit four dollars a gallon. Some people should stick to horses. Eisboch |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... My 'Vette is an entirely different story. When I took the blower off and downsized from twin 950 Holleys to single, put the rear end back to street legal and changed over from street drag slicks to street legal tires, the mileage went up marginally - from about 6 mpg to maybe 10. I went from 645 hp on a dyno to just south of 400 hp. Think it might help if I took the 3/4 cam and NOX out of it? :) The '67 GTO needs 91 octane or better and even then it will still "knock" a bit if you get on it. So, I don't. I thought about retarding the timing a little, but I drive the car very infrequently and baby it when I do. I'll just leave it alone. The '63 Galaxie with a 390 seems very happy on 91 octane. Again, I only drive it for a few hours per month, so it's 10 mpg isn't a big issue. It just cracks me up that the Porsche and the Sprinter .... one a high horsepower performance orientated vehicle, the other a diesel powered RV, get the best fuel mileage of all our vehicles ..... except the motorcycles. Eisboch |
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Just to add some boating content to this thread: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/boats/fir...cht-238000.php Eisboch |
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On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:52:23 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote: On Jul 12, 9:10*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:44:38 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: In these days of high fuel prices and being "green", I love it when people smugly comment about how my 911 TT *must be "terrible" in terms of gas mileage. Today, for kicks, I reset the car computer that calculates MPG as I entered onto a limited access highway heading back from the Cape. I drove for approximately 35 minutes, at speeds ranging from 60 -75 mph, mostly 65-70 mph. *I didn't do anything special in terms of driving techniques ... just drove normally. At the end of the 35 minutes, the computer calculated mileage display read "28.9 mpg". My "normal" average of combined around town and highway driving is usually about 20-21 mpg unless I have done some sustained "spirited" driving. Not bad, all things considered, and the look on people's faces when I tell them what it gets for mileage is usually one of disbelief. It really is an amazing car, given 445hp, it's performance and it's fuel economy. I should drive it all the time. Doesn't surprise me in the least. *It' s a properly engineered car with engineered gearing and weight to horsepower ratios. Add in the aero packages, the fact that it's properly balanced and you've got efficient power application up the hoo hoo. As I already said. Yes Jim - we all know you are a genius and a GOD.... |
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:46:10 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
Just to add some boating content to this thread: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/boats/fir...cht-238000.php Slick llooking - I'll give it that. Not a lot of fishing space though. :) |
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:22:15 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
Her response? "Oh .... is *that* what it is? I thought it was because I've been using "regular" gas instead of "high test" ever since the price of gas hit four dollars a gallon. Heh... Some people should stick to horses Speaking of 91 octane, the gas stations around here aren't sellin it anymore - or the mid-grade 87 octane. Just regular. |
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:42:52 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . My 'Vette is an entirely different story. When I took the blower off and downsized from twin 950 Holleys to single, put the rear end back to street legal and changed over from street drag slicks to street legal tires, the mileage went up marginally - from about 6 mpg to maybe 10. I went from 645 hp on a dyno to just south of 400 hp. Think it might help if I took the 3/4 cam and NOX out of it? :) The '67 GTO needs 91 octane or better and even then it will still "knock" a bit if you get on it. So, I don't. I thought about retarding the timing a little, but I drive the car very infrequently and baby it when I do. I'll just leave it alone. The '63 Galaxie with a 390 seems very happy on 91 octane. Again, I only drive it for a few hours per month, so it's 10 mpg isn't a big issue. Are the higher octanes 10% ethanol or is it just regular? |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:22:15 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: Her response? "Oh .... is *that* what it is? I thought it was because I've been using "regular" gas instead of "high test" ever since the price of gas hit four dollars a gallon. Heh... Some people should stick to horses Speaking of 91 octane, the gas stations around here aren't sellin it anymore - or the mid-grade 87 octane. Just regular. Really? If I remember correctly, around here 87 octane is "regular", 89 octane is "plus" or something, 91 octane is "high test" .... and then Sunoco sells 93 octane as "Ultra". I seem to remember that many years ago Sunoco used to sell a very high octane blend .... something like 97 ... for the muscle car crowd. Eisboch |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:42:52 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message . .. My 'Vette is an entirely different story. When I took the blower off and downsized from twin 950 Holleys to single, put the rear end back to street legal and changed over from street drag slicks to street legal tires, the mileage went up marginally - from about 6 mpg to maybe 10. I went from 645 hp on a dyno to just south of 400 hp. Think it might help if I took the 3/4 cam and NOX out of it? :) The '67 GTO needs 91 octane or better and even then it will still "knock" a bit if you get on it. So, I don't. I thought about retarding the timing a little, but I drive the car very infrequently and baby it when I do. I'll just leave it alone. The '63 Galaxie with a 390 seems very happy on 91 octane. Again, I only drive it for a few hours per month, so it's 10 mpg isn't a big issue. Are the higher octanes 10% ethanol or is it just regular? 10% ethanol. Ethanol is supposed to have a higher octane rating than gas, so the gas part of the mix has probably been lowered in terms of octane. I don't know. Eisboch |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:46:10 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: Just to add some boating content to this thread: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/boats/fir...cht-238000.php Slick llooking - I'll give it that. Not a lot of fishing space though. :) I read about these before. Porsche really has nothing to do with them other than the fact that Fearless contracted the Porsche design group to come up with the "look". Eisboch |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "DK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: Frankly, I am not sure I believe the computer. I just filled it up and will check it the old fashioned way ..... mileage driven, gallons used. I think I'm getting a bit more in the X5, too. I'll have to try that. Have you ever run mid-grade in your German cars? I know the computers will adjust and the fuel economy can decrease. I never tried anything but "high test". When we had the BMW's, the price of gas wasn't an issue, so there was no reason. One downside of the Porsche is that it calls for 93 octane (minimum). The only place I can get it is at Sunoco, who still carries 93 "Ultra". I've often considered taking it over to the little Plymouth airport where I took flying lessons and see if I could buy half a tank of 100 octane aviation fuel to mix with the 93 octane. Problem is that I think aviation gas is still leaded, and it would probably screw something up. Mrs.E. had a good one the other day. Her Navigator calls for "high test" (91 octane). She was giving me a ride back from the Cape after I brought the boat down there and I noticed that her left directional was blinking twice as fast as the right. I mentioned to her that one of the blinker lights was probably out. Her response? "Oh .... is *that* what it is? I thought it was because I've been using "regular" gas instead of "high test" ever since the price of gas hit four dollars a gallon. Some people should stick to horses. Eisboch Keep it up and you will be mucking stalls forever. |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:22:15 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: Her response? "Oh .... is *that* what it is? I thought it was because I've been using "regular" gas instead of "high test" ever since the price of gas hit four dollars a gallon. Heh... Some people should stick to horses Speaking of 91 octane, the gas stations around here aren't sellin it anymore - or the mid-grade 87 octane. Just regular. Really? If I remember correctly, around here 87 octane is "regular", 89 octane is "plus" or something, 91 octane is "high test" .... and then Sunoco sells 93 octane as "Ultra". I seem to remember that many years ago Sunoco used to sell a very high octane blend .... something like 97 ... for the muscle car crowd. Doesn't Sunoco put 10% ethanol in their "fuel?" I see that sticker on their pumps and pass by. My gas sucking pig, 2001 F-150 5.4L, gets 20% less MPG when the fuel contains ethanol. |
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 07:10:10 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:22:15 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: Her response? "Oh .... is *that* what it is? I thought it was because I've been using "regular" gas instead of "high test" ever since the price of gas hit four dollars a gallon. Heh... Some people should stick to horses Speaking of 91 octane, the gas stations around here aren't sellin it anymore - or the mid-grade 87 octane. Just regular. Really? If I remember correctly, around here 87 octane is "regular", 89 octane is "plus" or something, 91 octane is "high test" .... and then Sunoco sells 93 octane as "Ultra". I seem to remember that many years ago Sunoco used to sell a very high octane blend .... something like 97 ... for the muscle car crowd. There's a Sunoco station in Ashford that still sells it I think. |
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On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:44:38 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
It really is an amazing car, given 445hp, it's performance and it's fuel economy. I should drive it all the time. A car like that should be in a better climate. Let me store it for you here in Florida. :-) |
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"BAR" wrote in message . .. Eisboch wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:22:15 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: Her response? "Oh .... is *that* what it is? I thought it was because I've been using "regular" gas instead of "high test" ever since the price of gas hit four dollars a gallon. Heh... Some people should stick to horses Speaking of 91 octane, the gas stations around here aren't sellin it anymore - or the mid-grade 87 octane. Just regular. Really? If I remember correctly, around here 87 octane is "regular", 89 octane is "plus" or something, 91 octane is "high test" .... and then Sunoco sells 93 octane as "Ultra". I seem to remember that many years ago Sunoco used to sell a very high octane blend .... something like 97 ... for the muscle car crowd. Doesn't Sunoco put 10% ethanol in their "fuel?" I see that sticker on their pumps and pass by. My gas sucking pig, 2001 F-150 5.4L, gets 20% less MPG when the fuel contains ethanol. I think *all* gas stations in the USA have 10% ethanol. A few have 85% ethanol for those autos so designed. Eisboch |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:44:38 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: It really is an amazing car, given 445hp, it's performance and it's fuel economy. I should drive it all the time. A car like that should be in a better climate. Let me store it for you here in Florida. :-) You wish. It's one of my only joys in life. Eisboch |
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On Jul 13, 4:37*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message . .. Eisboch wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:22:15 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: Her response? * "Oh .... is *that* what it is? *I thought it was because I've been using "regular" gas instead of "high test" ever since the price of gas hit four dollars a gallon. Heh... Some people should stick to horses Speaking of 91 octane, the gas stations around here aren't sellin it anymore - or the mid-grade 87 octane. Just regular. Really? * If I remember correctly, around here 87 octane is "regular", 89 octane is "plus" or something, 91 octane is "high test" .... and then Sunoco sells 93 octane as "Ultra". I seem to remember that many years ago Sunoco used to sell a very high octane blend .... something like 97 ... for the muscle car crowd. Doesn't Sunoco put 10% ethanol in their "fuel?" I see that sticker on their pumps and pass by. My gas sucking pig, 2001 F-150 5.4L, gets 20% less MPG when the fuel contains ethanol. I think *all* gas stations in the USA have 10% ethanol. * *A few have 85% ethanol for those autos so designed. Eisboch I believe you are correct.....that is, E10 blend being the standard blend at most gas statoins. According to news reports refiners are now considering an E20 blend. It is my understanding that E85 reduces fuel economy for the cars designed to use it, negating the price reduction at the pump at the gas stations offering it. |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:44:38 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: It really is an amazing car, given 445hp, it's performance and it's fuel economy. I should drive it all the time. A car like that should be in a better climate. Let me store it for you here in Florida. :-) You wish. It's one of my only joys in life. Eisboch Took the Goat out for it's monthly turnaround today and stopped by my younger (Eisboch Jr's) house. He's too young to remember or even know of old school muscle cars. He thinks his high revving hemi in his Durango is the balls. So, when I left his house, I had to show him what old, low RPM, high torque, American Muscle was all about...... http://www.eisboch.com/mymark2.jpg and to think .... in a couple of years I'll be 60 years old. Eisboch |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:44:38 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: It really is an amazing car, given 445hp, it's performance and it's fuel economy. I should drive it all the time. A car like that should be in a better climate. Let me store it for you here in Florida. :-) You wish. It's one of my only joys in life. Eisboch Took the Goat out for it's monthly turnaround today and stopped by my younger (Eisboch Jr's) house. He's too young to remember or even know of old school muscle cars. He thinks his high revving hemi in his Durango is the balls. So, when I left his house, I had to show him what old, low RPM, high torque, American Muscle was all about...... http://www.eisboch.com/mymark2.jpg and to think .... in a couple of years I'll be 60 years old. Eisboch edit ..... meant to say ".... stopped by my younger son's ......" |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:44:38 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: It really is an amazing car, given 445hp, it's performance and it's fuel economy. I should drive it all the time. A car like that should be in a better climate. Let me store it for you here in Florida. :-) You wish. It's one of my only joys in life. Eisboch Took the Goat out for it's monthly turnaround today and stopped by my younger (Eisboch Jr's) house. He's too young to remember or even know of old school muscle cars. He thinks his high revving hemi in his Durango is the balls. So, when I left his house, I had to show him what old, low RPM, high torque, American Muscle was all about...... http://www.eisboch.com/mymark2.jpg and to think .... in a couple of years I'll be 60 years old. Eisboch edit ..... meant to say ".... stopped by my younger son's ......" I'm not sure I "get" the photo...are you referring to the tire marks? I could do that with my 65 hp, 1953 Aero-Willys and, in fact, frequently did, in first and second gear, but not third gear. |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:44:38 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: It really is an amazing car, given 445hp, it's performance and it's fuel economy. I should drive it all the time. A car like that should be in a better climate. Let me store it for you here in Florida. :-) You wish. It's one of my only joys in life. Eisboch Took the Goat out for it's monthly turnaround today and stopped by my younger (Eisboch Jr's) house. He's too young to remember or even know of old school muscle cars. He thinks his high revving hemi in his Durango is the balls. So, when I left his house, I had to show him what old, low RPM, high torque, American Muscle was all about...... http://www.eisboch.com/mymark2.jpg and to think .... in a couple of years I'll be 60 years old. Eisboch Couple of years??? Weren't you born in 1949? My calendar says you'll be 60 within the year...give or take a month or two. For me it's one year, one month and a week & some change. |
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:05:31 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:44:38 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: It really is an amazing car, given 445hp, it's performance and it's fuel economy. I should drive it all the time. A car like that should be in a better climate. Let me store it for you here in Florida. :-) You wish. It's one of my only joys in life. Eisboch Took the Goat out for it's monthly turnaround today and stopped by my younger (Eisboch Jr's) house. He's too young to remember or even know of old school muscle cars. He thinks his high revving hemi in his Durango is the balls. So, when I left his house, I had to show him what old, low RPM, high torque, American Muscle was all about...... http://www.eisboch.com/mymark2.jpg and to think .... in a couple of years I'll be 60 years old. Eisboch Probably added two degrees to the earth's temperature. Shame on you. |
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"DK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: Frankly, I am not sure I believe the computer. I just filled it up and will check it the old fashioned way ..... mileage driven, gallons used. I think I'm getting a bit more in the X5, too. I'll have to try that. Have you ever run mid-grade in your German cars? I know the computers will adjust and the fuel economy can decrease. I never tried anything but "high test". When we had the BMW's, the price of gas wasn't an issue, so there was no reason. One downside of the Porsche is that it calls for 93 octane (minimum). The only place I can get it is at Sunoco, who still carries 93 "Ultra". I've often considered taking it over to the little Plymouth airport where I took flying lessons and see if I could buy half a tank of 100 octane aviation fuel to mix with the 93 octane. Problem is that I think aviation gas is still leaded, and it would probably screw something up. Mrs.E. had a good one the other day. Her Navigator calls for "high test" (91 octane). She was giving me a ride back from the Cape after I brought the boat down there and I noticed that her left directional was blinking twice as fast as the right. I mentioned to her that one of the blinker lights was probably out. Her response? "Oh .... is *that* what it is? I thought it was because I've been using "regular" gas instead of "high test" ever since the price of gas hit four dollars a gallon. Some people should stick to horses. Eisboch Women...! |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:22:15 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: Her response? "Oh .... is *that* what it is? I thought it was because I've been using "regular" gas instead of "high test" ever since the price of gas hit four dollars a gallon. Heh... Some people should stick to horses Speaking of 91 octane, the gas stations around here aren't sellin it anymore - or the mid-grade 87 octane. Just regular. On the water or on land? |
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