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Eisboch wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:44:38 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: It really is an amazing car, given 445hp, it's performance and it's fuel economy. I should drive it all the time. A car like that should be in a better climate. Let me store it for you here in Florida. :-) You wish. It's one of my only joys in life. Eisboch Took the Goat out for it's monthly turnaround today and stopped by my younger (Eisboch Jr's) house. He's too young to remember or even know of old school muscle cars. He thinks his high revving hemi in his Durango is the balls. So, when I left his house, I had to show him what old, low RPM, high torque, American Muscle was all about...... http://www.eisboch.com/mymark2.jpg and to think .... in a couple of years I'll be 60 years old. Eisboch Nice and straight. Interesting asphalt curbs. |
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"HK" wrote in message ... I'm not sure I "get" the photo...are you referring to the tire marks? I could do that with my 65 hp, 1953 Aero-Willys and, in fact, frequently did, in first and second gear, but not third gear. It had posi-traction and you could break lose in first and second? Eisboch |
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:32:26 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... I'm not sure I "get" the photo...are you referring to the tire marks? I could do that with my 65 hp, 1953 Aero-Willys and, in fact, frequently did, in first and second gear, but not third gear. It had posi-traction and you could break lose in first and second? Eisboch A Doubting Richard? |
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... I'm not sure I "get" the photo...are you referring to the tire marks? I could do that with my 65 hp, 1953 Aero-Willys and, in fact, frequently did, in first and second gear, but not third gear. It had posi-traction and you could break lose in first and second? Eisboch Thought you were referring to the ability to lay down a strip of rubber from the tires. About every stick shift I drove could do that, and so could a few auto transmission cars. No, my Aero-Willys did not have posi-traction. :) But I did once do a 360 with it on wet leaves on Ellsworth Avenue, just before Whalley Avenue. Inadvertent, of course. |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... I'm not sure I "get" the photo...are you referring to the tire marks? I could do that with my 65 hp, 1953 Aero-Willys and, in fact, frequently did, in first and second gear, but not third gear. It had posi-traction and you could break lose in first and second? Eisboch Thought you were referring to the ability to lay down a strip of rubber from the tires. About every stick shift I drove could do that, and so could a few auto transmission cars. The Porsche can't. Eisboch |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... I'm not sure I "get" the photo...are you referring to the tire marks? I could do that with my 65 hp, 1953 Aero-Willys and, in fact, frequently did, in first and second gear, but not third gear. It had posi-traction and you could break lose in first and second? Eisboch Thought you were referring to the ability to lay down a strip of rubber from the tires. About every stick shift I drove could do that, and so could a few auto transmission cars. The Porsche can't. Eisboch Did you guys see the tv program on 'drift racing' a couple days ago? Now that seems like a waste of tires. Appears to be popular in Japan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drifting_(motorsport) |
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... I'm not sure I "get" the photo...are you referring to the tire marks? I could do that with my 65 hp, 1953 Aero-Willys and, in fact, frequently did, in first and second gear, but not third gear. It had posi-traction and you could break lose in first and second? Eisboch Thought you were referring to the ability to lay down a strip of rubber from the tires. About every stick shift I drove could do that, and so could a few auto transmission cars. The Porsche can't. Eisboch Not enough horsepower, hey? :) Trade up to an Aero Willys. |
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:32:26 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
It had posi-traction and you could break lose in first and second? He must have had the "HO" option. :-) |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:32:26 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: It had posi-traction and you could break lose in first and second? He must have had the "HO" option. :-) Boy, now that's a knee-slapper, W'hine. My Aero Willys had a lovely back seat, in which it was easy to get laid. That, to a high school sophomore, was a tad more interesting than spinning tires on pavement. Hell, it's more interesting to me now. |
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"hk" wrote in message . .. Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:32:26 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: It had posi-traction and you could break lose in first and second? He must have had the "HO" option. :-) Boy, now that's a knee-slapper, W'hine. My Aero Willys had a lovely back seat, in which it was easy to get laid. That, to a high school sophomore, was a tad more interesting than spinning tires on pavement. Hell, it's more interesting to me now. Still trying, huh? Eisboch |
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:56:04 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message ... Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:32:26 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: It had posi-traction and you could break lose in first and second? He must have had the "HO" option. :-) Boy, now that's a knee-slapper, W'hine. My Aero Willys had a lovely back seat, in which it was easy to get laid. That, to a high school sophomore, was a tad more interesting than spinning tires on pavement. Hell, it's more interesting to me now. Still trying, huh? Ouch... :) |
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message . .. Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:32:26 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: It had posi-traction and you could break lose in first and second? He must have had the "HO" option. :-) Boy, now that's a knee-slapper, W'hine. My Aero Willys had a lovely back seat, in which it was easy to get laid. That, to a high school sophomore, was a tad more interesting than spinning tires on pavement. Hell, it's more interesting to me now. Still trying, huh? Eisboch Absolutely...and succeeding. I'd rather get laid than spin the tires on my cars...then...and now. |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:56:04 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:32:26 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: It had posi-traction and you could break lose in first and second? He must have had the "HO" option. :-) Boy, now that's a knee-slapper, W'hine. My Aero Willys had a lovely back seat, in which it was easy to get laid. That, to a high school sophomore, was a tad more interesting than spinning tires on pavement. Hell, it's more interesting to me now. Still trying, huh? Ouch... :) I have never known a 60 yr old man who talked about his high school sexual escapades. That is something most kids grew out of by the time they got to college. I would assume Harry graduated HS a virgin. |
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"hk" wrote in message . .. Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:32:26 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: It had posi-traction and you could break lose in first and second? He must have had the "HO" option. :-) Boy, now that's a knee-slapper, W'hine. My Aero Willys had a lovely back seat, in which it was easy to get laid. That, to a high school sophomore, was a tad more interesting than spinning tires on pavement. Hell, it's more interesting to me now. Those were the days. Well at least you have your memories. |
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:10:10 -0300, "Don White"
wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message m... "HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... I'm not sure I "get" the photo...are you referring to the tire marks? I could do that with my 65 hp, 1953 Aero-Willys and, in fact, frequently did, in first and second gear, but not third gear. It had posi-traction and you could break lose in first and second? Eisboch Thought you were referring to the ability to lay down a strip of rubber from the tires. About every stick shift I drove could do that, and so could a few auto transmission cars. The Porsche can't. Eisboch Did you guys see the tv program on 'drift racing' a couple days ago? Now that seems like a waste of tires. Appears to be popular in Japan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drifting_(motorsport) That's one form of auto racing that I've never understood. |
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Jim wrote:
"hk" wrote in message . .. Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:32:26 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: It had posi-traction and you could break lose in first and second? He must have had the "HO" option. :-) Boy, now that's a knee-slapper, W'hine. My Aero Willys had a lovely back seat, in which it was easy to get laid. That, to a high school sophomore, was a tad more interesting than spinning tires on pavement. Hell, it's more interesting to me now. Those were the days. Well at least you have your memories. Yeah, I am sure you are the type who remembers spinning your wheels. You're still doing it. |
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On Jul 14, 10:24*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:10:10 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message m... "HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... I'm not sure I "get" the photo...are you referring to the tire marks? I could do that with my 65 hp, 1953 Aero-Willys and, in fact, frequently did, in first and second gear, but not third gear. It had posi-traction and you could break lose in first and second? Eisboch Thought you were referring to the ability to lay down a strip of rubber from the tires. About every stick shift I drove could do that, and so could a few auto transmission cars. The Porsche can't. Eisboch Did you guys see the tv program on 'drift racing' a couple days ago? Now that seems like a waste of tires. Appears to be popular in Japan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drifting_(motorsport) That's one form of auto racing that I've never understood.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I think it started in the urban areas. It does not take a lot of equipment, room, or even a sanction. Just a parking lot and a crowd of spectators. Just like a basketball court. Hell, you can play on a half court. Now Baseball and Golf don't do quite as well in the city... |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Jim wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:32:26 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: It had posi-traction and you could break lose in first and second? He must have had the "HO" option. :-) Boy, now that's a knee-slapper, W'hine. My Aero Willys had a lovely back seat, in which it was easy to get laid. That, to a high school sophomore, was a tad more interesting than spinning tires on pavement. Hell, it's more interesting to me now. Those were the days. Well at least you have your memories. Yeah, I am sure you are the type who remembers spinning your wheels. You're still doing it. ~~ Snerk ~~ |
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:09:55 -0400, "Jim" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message ... Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:32:26 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: It had posi-traction and you could break lose in first and second? He must have had the "HO" option. :-) Boy, now that's a knee-slapper, W'hine. My Aero Willys had a lovely back seat, in which it was easy to get laid. That, to a high school sophomore, was a tad more interesting than spinning tires on pavement. Hell, it's more interesting to me now. Those were the days. Well at least you have your memories. This thread, from about 8:30 this morning, sure resembles Chuck's Island. |
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:02:40 -0400, John H.
wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:09:55 -0400, "Jim" wrote: "hk" wrote in message m... Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:32:26 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: It had posi-traction and you could break lose in first and second? He must have had the "HO" option. :-) Boy, now that's a knee-slapper, W'hine. My Aero Willys had a lovely back seat, in which it was easy to get laid. That, to a high school sophomore, was a tad more interesting than spinning tires on pavement. Hell, it's more interesting to me now. Those were the days. Well at least you have your memories. This thread, from about 8:30 this morning, sure resembles Chuck's Island. The God of Posts has been busy all day - must have been slow over at Chuck's. |
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On Jul 14, 7:42*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:02:40 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:09:55 -0400, "Jim" wrote: "hk" wrote in message m... Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:32:26 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: It had posi-traction and you could break lose in first and second? He must have had the "HO" option. * :-) Boy, now that's a knee-slapper, W'hine. My Aero Willys had a lovely back seat, in which it was easy to get laid. That, to a high school sophomore, was a tad more interesting than spinning tires on pavement. Hell, it's more interesting to me now. Those were the days. Well at least you have your memories. This thread, from about 8:30 this morning, sure resembles Chuck's Island.. The God of Posts has been busy all day - must have been slow over at Chuck's. And enjoying every minute proving you wrong once again. Eh? |
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On Jul 14, 7:42*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:02:40 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:09:55 -0400, "Jim" wrote: "hk" wrote in message m... Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:32:26 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: It had posi-traction and you could break lose in first and second? He must have had the "HO" option. * :-) Boy, now that's a knee-slapper, W'hine. My Aero Willys had a lovely back seat, in which it was easy to get laid. That, to a high school sophomore, was a tad more interesting than spinning tires on pavement. Hell, it's more interesting to me now. Those were the days. Well at least you have your memories. This thread, from about 8:30 this morning, sure resembles Chuck's Island.. The God of Posts has been busy all day - must have been slow over at Chuck's. http://www.wavsource.com/snds_2008-0...now_it_all.wav |
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... I'm not sure I "get" the photo...are you referring to the tire marks? I could do that with my 65 hp, 1953 Aero-Willys and, in fact, frequently did, in first and second gear, but not third gear. It had posi-traction and you could break lose in first and second? Eisboch WAFA narcissism - caught again. |
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:46:00 -0400, hk wrote:
Boy, now that's a knee-slapper, W'hine. WAFA |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "DK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: In these days of high fuel prices and being "green", I love it when people smugly comment about how my 911 TT must be "terrible" in terms of gas mileage. Today, for kicks, I reset the car computer that calculates MPG as I entered onto a limited access highway heading back from the Cape. I drove for approximately 35 minutes, at speeds ranging from 60 -75 mph, mostly 65-70 mph. I didn't do anything special in terms of driving techniques ... just drove normally. At the end of the 35 minutes, the computer calculated mileage display read "28.9 mpg". My "normal" average of combined around town and highway driving is usually about 20-21 mpg unless I have done some sustained "spirited" driving. Not bad, all things considered, and the look on people's faces when I tell them what it gets for mileage is usually one of disbelief. It really is an amazing car, given 445hp, it's performance and it's fuel economy. I should drive it all the time. Eisboch I'd be very happy with 20mpg. My X5 4.8 has horrible gas mileage - 18 average. We did order the Z4 3.0si - not as a replacement - and it is advertised as 18/27. It will be interesting to see what the real number is. I think the Porsche's advantage is light weight, aerodynamics and an engine that is basically loafing along at 75 mph. It isn't even breathing hard, the turbos aren't doing anything and it's operating at a fraction of it's capability. Eisboch Looking at new car for SWMBO. Liked the Acura MDX, and find out mileage is 12-18 mpg. Looking at a Saturn Vue Hybrid, but waiting until the 09's come out to see if they are better. Supposedly different hybrid scheme. Coming back from Oakland last night the Diesel truck got 17.3. Some freeway, some hill driving. |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 01:46:26 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 01:10:45 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: My 'Vette is an entirely different story. When I took the blower off and downsized from twin 950 Holleys to single ... My 69 bone stock 350/350 would get about 24-25 if you could keep those fat assed quadrajet secondaries closed. ~~ snerk ~~ Damn straight. :) My 1964 stock 375 hp FI coupe got about 17 on the freeway when I first bought it and before converting to a full fledged race car. |
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:22:15 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
Her Navigator calls for "high test" (91 octane). We put 100 000 miles on ours, all with the cheapstuff. Casady |
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I was once given the keys to a 911 Targa and allowed to drive it around
a mall parking lot for a test drive. I wouldn't have cared it it got 5 MPG, I was in love with that car and would have lived with what ever the milaeage came to. Unfortunately, I had just bought another car and wasn't able to take on 2 cars, so the opportunity eluded me. |
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"Richard Casady" wrote in message ... On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:22:15 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: Her Navigator calls for "high test" (91 octane). We put 100 000 miles on ours, all with the cheapstuff. Casady I'll mention that to her. She has a "thing" for Navigators. This one is her third one. I remember the first one (I think a '01 model) was absolutely horrible to drive IMO. Sloppy handling and no power. It felt like it needed a bow thruster just to turn a sharp corner. When she decided to trade that one in, I convinced her to at least try the Caddy version of that vehicle. I forget what it was called, but it turned out it was just as soft and mushy as the original Navigator .... maybe even worse. But Ford obviously redesigned the suspension in the later models because her second and current versions actually handle decently, ride well and have much more ummmph to them for a large vehicle. But, they still get terrible mileage. Problem is, she needs something of that size to carry all her horse equipment and junk around. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Richard Casady" wrote in message ... On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:22:15 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: Her Navigator calls for "high test" (91 octane). We put 100 000 miles on ours, all with the cheapstuff. Casady I'll mention that to her. She has a "thing" for Navigators. This one is her third one. I remember the first one (I think a '01 model) was absolutely horrible to drive IMO. Sloppy handling and no power. It felt like it needed a bow thruster just to turn a sharp corner. When she decided to trade that one in, I convinced her to at least try the Caddy version of that vehicle. I forget what it was called, but it turned out it was just as soft and mushy as the original Navigator .... maybe even worse. But Ford obviously redesigned the suspension in the later models because her second and current versions actually handle decently, ride well and have much more ummmph to them for a large vehicle. But, they still get terrible mileage. Problem is, she needs something of that size to carry all her horse equipment and junk around. If you had driven the Ford or Chevy versions the steering and ride would have been firmer and stiffer, respectively. The Lincolns and Cadillacs are given the squishier rides because they usually have softer bodies riding around in them. |
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"N.L. Eckert" wrote in message ... I was once given the keys to a 911 Targa and allowed to drive it around a mall parking lot for a test drive. I wouldn't have cared it it got 5 MPG, I was in love with that car and would have lived with what ever the milaeage came to. Unfortunately, I had just bought another car and wasn't able to take on 2 cars, so the opportunity eluded me. Mine's a 911 (996) Twin Turbo. I drive it very infrequently and often wonder why I keep it. But, all it takes is a nice day and a ride somewhere and I quickly remember why. Eisboch |
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"BAR" wrote in message . .. If you had driven the Ford or Chevy versions the steering and ride would have been firmer and stiffer, respectively. The Lincolns and Cadillacs are given the squishier rides because they usually have softer bodies riding around in them. No comment. Eisboch |
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "DK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: In these days of high fuel prices and being "green", I love it when people smugly comment about how my 911 TT must be "terrible" in terms of gas mileage. Today, for kicks, I reset the car computer that calculates MPG as I entered onto a limited access highway heading back from the Cape. I drove for approximately 35 minutes, at speeds ranging from 60 -75 mph, mostly 65-70 mph. I didn't do anything special in terms of driving techniques ... just drove normally. At the end of the 35 minutes, the computer calculated mileage display read "28.9 mpg". My "normal" average of combined around town and highway driving is usually about 20-21 mpg unless I have done some sustained "spirited" driving. Not bad, all things considered, and the look on people's faces when I tell them what it gets for mileage is usually one of disbelief. It really is an amazing car, given 445hp, it's performance and it's fuel economy. I should drive it all the time. Eisboch I'd be very happy with 20mpg. My X5 4.8 has horrible gas mileage - 18 average. We did order the Z4 3.0si - not as a replacement - and it is advertised as 18/27. It will be interesting to see what the real number is. I think the Porsche's advantage is light weight, aerodynamics and an engine that is basically loafing along at 75 mph. It isn't even breathing hard, the turbos aren't doing anything and it's operating at a fraction of it's capability. Eisboch Looking at new car for SWMBO. Liked the Acura MDX, and find out mileage is 12-18 mpg. Looking at a Saturn Vue Hybrid, but waiting until the 09's come out to see if they are better. Supposedly different hybrid scheme. Coming back from Oakland last night the Diesel truck got 17.3. Some freeway, some hill driving. I rented a Saturn Outlook and was impressed. I can't vouch for the fuel economy or tow rating. |
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"DK" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "DK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: In these days of high fuel prices and being "green", I love it when people smugly comment about how my 911 TT must be "terrible" in terms of gas mileage. Today, for kicks, I reset the car computer that calculates MPG as I entered onto a limited access highway heading back from the Cape. I drove for approximately 35 minutes, at speeds ranging from 60 -75 mph, mostly 65-70 mph. I didn't do anything special in terms of driving techniques ... just drove normally. At the end of the 35 minutes, the computer calculated mileage display read "28.9 mpg". My "normal" average of combined around town and highway driving is usually about 20-21 mpg unless I have done some sustained "spirited" driving. Not bad, all things considered, and the look on people's faces when I tell them what it gets for mileage is usually one of disbelief. It really is an amazing car, given 445hp, it's performance and it's fuel economy. I should drive it all the time. Eisboch I'd be very happy with 20mpg. My X5 4.8 has horrible gas mileage - 18 average. We did order the Z4 3.0si - not as a replacement - and it is advertised as 18/27. It will be interesting to see what the real number is. I think the Porsche's advantage is light weight, aerodynamics and an engine that is basically loafing along at 75 mph. It isn't even breathing hard, the turbos aren't doing anything and it's operating at a fraction of it's capability. Eisboch Looking at new car for SWMBO. Liked the Acura MDX, and find out mileage is 12-18 mpg. Looking at a Saturn Vue Hybrid, but waiting until the 09's come out to see if they are better. Supposedly different hybrid scheme. Coming back from Oakland last night the Diesel truck got 17.3. Some freeway, some hill driving. I rented a Saturn Outlook and was impressed. I can't vouch for the fuel economy or tow rating. Wifes car. Tow is a 2004 Chevy diesel. |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "N.L. Eckert" wrote in message ... I was once given the keys to a 911 Targa and allowed to drive it around a mall parking lot for a test drive. I wouldn't have cared it it got 5 MPG, I was in love with that car and would have lived with what ever the milaeage came to. Unfortunately, I had just bought another car and wasn't able to take on 2 cars, so the opportunity eluded me. Mine's a 911 (996) Twin Turbo. I drive it very infrequently and often wonder why I keep it. But, all it takes is a nice day and a ride somewhere and I quickly remember why. Eisboch Couple of years ago, a local guy overheard a young man lamenting on his car for the Senior Prom. Loaned him his car. Was a 911. Kid was class. Drove it carefully and washed and waxed it before returning. Guy did not know the kid before the loan. Both people showed a lot of class and judgement of people. |
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