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On Jun 12, 9:04*am, "Ernest Scribbler"
wrote:
"dinker" wrote

What company makes a great quality float boat - that can be used for
pleasure and fishing.

I can't speak from experience, but I always thought deck boats like the Lowe
"Tahiti" series offered most of what one would want in a pontoon boot with
some of the advantages of a conventional hull.

Same here, I'd like to give one a good shakedown sometime.

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On Jun 12, 10:31*am, wrote:
On Jun 12, 9:04*am, "Ernest Scribbler"
wrote:

"dinker" wrote

What company makes a great quality float boat - that can be used for
pleasure and fishing.

I can't speak from experience, but I always thought deck boats like the Lowe
"Tahiti" series offered most of what one would want in a pontoon boot with
some of the advantages of a conventional hull.

Same here, I'd like to give one a good shakedown sometime.

Yea, they look pretty good and have the best of both worlds on
protected water.

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On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:38:03 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:22:18 -0500, dinker wrote:

I would like a good quality name of pontoon boat- I would like a boat
with fiberglass seating and flooring that is not carpeted.

http://www.godfreymarine.com/

I would like a good 90hp outboard engine.

Evinrude ETEC 90 hp.

Is that the engine that has had all the problems, ie blowing up and
killing everyone on board?

Nice.

Yuck yuck.

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On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:50:02 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:22:18 -0500, dinker wrote:

I would like a good quality name of pontoon boat- I would like a boat
with fiberglass seating and flooring that is not carpeted.

http://www.godfreymarine.com/

I would like a good 90hp outboard engine.

Evinrude ETEC 90 hp.

Is that the engine that has had all the problems, ie blowing up and
killing everyone on board?

Is this sort of snarky stupidity on your part, "reggie," really necessary?

No, it was not a snarky remark, it was a very cute humorous remark.
Everyone knows the ETEC is a great engine, with a higher power/torgue
ratio and better fuel efficiency than the overweight and bloated 4 cycle
Yamaha engines.

The humorous comment was directed to SWS not to you. I am sorry it
offended you.

It didn't offend me - I know it was funny, but funny about 50 posts in
when Harry starts whining about his Yamaha being this, that and the
other thing and we start beating each other up. :)

The guy is a newbie remember - he's not up for the verbal jousting
required by the Yamaha/Evinrude duel between me and Harry. :)

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On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:23:52 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:50:02 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

No, it was not a snarky remark, it was a very cute humorous remark.
Everyone knows the ETEC is a great engine, with a higher power/torgue
ratio and better fuel efficiency than the overweight and bloated 4 cycle
Yamaha engines.

The humorous comment was directed to SWS not to you. I am sorry it
offended you.

Those of us who have been around a while surely caught the intended
humor. My concern is that the original poster is a newbie here and
may very well be shaking his head in confusion.

As an FYI to the OP, one of our resident experts on pontoon boats is
"gfretwell" from south Florida. Regarding outboards, any of the
leading brands will probably serve you well. Take a look at what
other people in your area are using and ask around about quality of
dealer service. For what it's worth, 2 strokes have better low end
torque than 4 strokes, are usually lighter and easier to service. 4
strokes are quieter and require no mixing or injection of oil with the
fuel.

Ahem....

ETEC's don't require mixing either, use less oil that conventional
four strokes (taking into consideration regular oil changes), are
quieter than any four stroke on the market (I have that on tape by the
way - guy up at the lake the other day with his Yamaha repowered
Stratos bass boat - snerk) are are clearly superior to any four stroke
on the market which has to be correct being the clearly superior type
of person that I am. :)

As to easier to repair? Not so much - about the same actually if only
because of the complex EMM system.

TWO STROKE RULES!!!

FOUR STROKE DROOLS!!!

PS: Aren't your diesels two stroke?

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On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:40:45 -0400, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:50:02 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

No, it was not a snarky remark, it was a very cute humorous remark.
Everyone knows the ETEC is a great engine, with a higher power/torgue
ratio and better fuel efficiency than the overweight and bloated 4 cycle
Yamaha engines.

The humorous comment was directed to SWS not to you. I am sorry it
offended you.

Those of us who have been around a while surely caught the intended
humor. My concern is that the original poster is a newbie here and
may very well be shaking his head in confusion.

As an FYI to the OP, one of our resident experts on pontoon boats is
"gfretwell" from south Florida. Regarding outboards, any of the
leading brands will probably serve you well. Take a look at what
other people in your area are using and ask around about quality of
dealer service. For what it's worth, 2 strokes have better low end
torque than 4 strokes, are usually lighter and easier to service. 4
strokes are quieter and require no mixing or injection of oil with the
fuel.

Modern higher horsepower outboards are *not* easy to service, period. It
doesn't matter whether you have a high tech two stroke or a four stroke.
You're going to need special knowledge, special training, and special
tools, including computer software and the mechanism to get readings off
the engine's I/O port if you are messing around "under the hood beyond
changing the spark plugs.

Well - I"m....shocked. Both types of engines are very complex, but
not nececssarily difficult to work on. I won't work on mine even
thought I have the software and manuals - don't want to mess up the
seven year full parts/labor warranty.

Um..speaking of which, has the warranty on your Yamaha run out yet? I
know it's only, like, what - one year old? :)

As for weight, I'm not sure how much it matters in the larger engines.
The 150 hp Evinrude eTec two stroke, for example, displaces about 2.7
liters and weighs 427 pounds. The 150 hp four stroke Yamaha has about
the same displacement and weighs 466 pounds (the Evinrude site has the
wrong weight on the Yamaha 150). Negligible weight difference.

No they don't. That's exactly what the Yamaha weighs with oil/gear
oil/filters/plugs, prop and belts.

In real world tests, the two engines would perform about the same under
most operating conditions. The rather outrageous claims I have seen for
eTec fuel burn could only be true if the Evinrude engineers have figured
out how to cheat the laws of physics.

Not outrageous at all. Why do you think most commercial types are
going Evinrude - maybe because the fuel milage (on mine, 3.78 gph on
average) is FAR SUPERIOR to any four stoke and in particular Yamaha?

Tooling around this morning at idle - amazing fuel flow reading .2GPH.

Point two - not bad huh?

Besides - who would want an engine with a tuning fork emblem on it?
:)

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On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:48:23 -0400, wrote:

I haven't pulled the trigger yet but these guys have a pretty good
selection and seemed reasonable to talk to.
http://custompontoonboatkitsetc.com/index.html

Hey - thanks for that. I need to look into this as Mrs. Wave wants a
pontoon boat for down south.

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:40:45 -0400, HK wrote:

Modern higher horsepower outboards are *not* easy to service, period. It
doesn't matter whether you have a high tech two stroke or a four stroke.
You're going to need special knowledge, special training, and special
tools, including computer software and the mechanism to get readings off
the engine's I/O port if you are messing around "under the hood beyond
changing the spark plugs.

Well - I"m....shocked. Both types of engines are very complex, but
not nececssarily difficult to work on. I won't work on mine even
thought I have the software and manuals - don't want to mess up the
seven year full parts/labor warranty.


Um..speaking of which, has the warranty on your Yamaha run out yet? I
know it's only, like, what - one year old? :)


Six year warranty.




As for weight, I'm not sure how much it matters in the larger engines.
The 150 hp Evinrude eTec two stroke, for example, displaces about 2.7
liters and weighs 427 pounds. The 150 hp four stroke Yamaha has about
the same displacement and weighs 466 pounds (the Evinrude site has the
wrong weight on the Yamaha 150). Negligible weight difference.

No they don't. That's exactly what the Yamaha weighs with oil/gear
oil/filters/plugs, prop and belts.


Source? My source is my Yamaha manual. Weight with prop, 467 pounds.



In real world tests, the two engines would perform about the same under
most operating conditions. The rather outrageous claims I have seen for
eTec fuel burn could only be true if the Evinrude engineers have figured
out how to cheat the laws of physics.

Not outrageous at all. Why do you think most commercial types are
going Evinrude - maybe because the fuel milage (on mine, 3.78 gph on
average) is FAR SUPERIOR to any four stoke and in particular Yamaha?


Cite, please, for "most commercial types are going Evinrude..." There
aren't many down here. Maybe Evinrude isn't trying to buy market share
down here...

Cite, please, for fuel usage figures, and not from that wild little
Evinrude promo video that's on TV.


Tooling around this morning at idle - amazing fuel flow reading .2GPH.

Point two - not bad huh?

Besides - who would want an engine with a tuning fork emblem on it?
:)

If I run my Yamaha at 600 rpm, I get that sort of gph, too. So what?

Tuning fork? Feh. Who wants a French outboard? :)

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:22:18 -0500, dinker wrote:

I would like a good quality name of pontoon boat- I would like a boat
with fiberglass seating and flooring that is not carpeted.

http://www.godfreymarine.com/

I would like a good 90hp outboard engine.

Evinrude ETEC 90 hp.

Is that the engine that has had all the problems, ie blowing up and
killing everyone on board?


Is this sort of snarky stupidity on your part, "reggie," really
necessary?

No, it was not a snarky remark, it was a very cute humorous remark.
Everyone knows the ETEC is a great engine, with a higher power/torgue
ratio and better fuel efficiency than the overweight and bloated 4 cycle
Yamaha engines.

The humorous comment was directed to SWS not to you. I am sorry it
offended you.

Don't respond to the asshole. Your remark was typical of his over the
years - despite the fact that you were kidding. He's simply trolling
for attention now.

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On Jun 12, 7:50 pm, DK wrote:

Don't respond to the asshole. Your remark was typical of his over the
years - despite the fact that you were kidding. He's simply trolling
for attention now.

Yet another example of a rec.boats regular trying to improve the tone
and quality of this group.