"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 21 May 2008 19:05:23 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 21 May 2008 19:39:18 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:




I'm surprised that the new "super lines" like Fireline do not slip for
you
using the improved clinch knot.

The first time I loaded up with one of the super lines about 35 years ago
I
tied on a 10 inch Suick using the improved clinch and on the first cast
the
Suick went really flying as the knot slipped.

Been using the Palomar ever since. Still use the improved clinch or
sometimes the Palomar with light weight mono and jigs or the like.

That's my experience.

If you're using a heavier test mono, say 15 lbs and up, you really
have to make sure it's cinched tight. I always hold the hook end with
pliers and take a few wraps of the line around my hand then jerk
it with muscle a good five or six times before I clip it.
Even more important with 50 lb leader stuff, which takes some real
force to cinch up tight.
The Firewire isn't nearly as bad, but I always make sure with it too.
You can pretty well feel it before you eyeball it.

--Vic

Tieing the knots with the line wet helps tighten the knots. I usually dip
the knot right before cinching it up.
--
John *H*

Wetting the knot before drawing and tightening helps to prevent heat build
up which can significantly reduce the integrity ( strength ) of the knot.

On May 22, 5:13*am, "D.Duck" wrote:
"John H." wrote in message

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On Wed, 21 May 2008 19:05:23 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 21 May 2008 19:39:18 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

I'm surprised that the new "super lines" like Fireline do not slip for
you
using the improved clinch knot.

The first time I loaded up with one of the super lines about 35 years ago
I
tied on a 10 inch Suick using the improved clinch and on the first cast
the
Suick went really flying as the knot slipped.

Been using the Palomar ever since. *Still use the improved clinch or
sometimes the Palomar with light weight mono and jigs or the like.

That's my experience.

If you're using a heavier test mono, say 15 lbs and up, you really
have to make sure it's cinched tight. *I always hold the hook end with
pliers and take a few wraps of the line around my hand then jerk
it with muscle a good five or six times before I clip it.
Even more important with 50 lb leader stuff, which takes some real
force to cinch up tight.
The Firewire isn't nearly as bad, but I always make sure with it too.
You can pretty well feel it before you eyeball it.

--Vic

Tieing the knots with the line wet helps tighten the knots. I usually dip
the knot right before cinching it up.
--
John *H*

Wetting the knot before drawing and tightening helps to prevent heat build
up which can significantly reduce the integrity ( strength ) of the knot.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Absolutely! When in a hurry, I've burned right through mono because I
didn't wet it.