On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:41:47 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
The high:

Today is the birthday of Leonardo da Vinci, the Italian
genius whose work epitomized the Renaissance humanist ideal and whose Last
Supper (1495?98) and Mona Lisa (1503?06) are widely influential paintings.
Born in 1452.

The low:

On this day in 1955, Roy Croc opened the first McDonald's franchise in Des
Plaines, Illinois, and in that same year started the McDonald's
Corporation.


:)

I believe it was Ray Croc. First store was about 2 miles from my childhood
home.

Any White Castles there? I was delivering papers on my bike when I
saw my first MacDonalds, around 79th and Jeffery.
There was an old White Castle a couple blocks east. I tried one of
the McDonald burgers - it was 15 cents. Liked the smaller White
Castle much better - it was 12 cents.
That was '59 I think. Maybe '60.
I still eat 8 White Castles once in a while, when I get the craving, 3
or 4 times a year. Of course I always regret it for a couple days.
Never cared at all for McDonalds. Best thing they have is the
breakfast sandwiches. I'll stop when we travel for that if that's how
our schedule is working, but otherwise stay away.
None of my kids got hooked on that, either, because I only took them
there if we were on the road.
A good hamburger is easy to make.
Now fried chicken - that's another story.

--Vic

ps. I worked in Mac's marketing department for a couple years.
Corporate HQ in Oak Brook.
Amazing business, and a super operation.

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:41:47 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
The high:

Today is the birthday of Leonardo da Vinci, the Italian
genius whose work epitomized the Renaissance humanist ideal and whose
Last
Supper (1495?98) and Mona Lisa (1503?06) are widely influential
paintings.
Born in 1452.

The low:

On this day in 1955, Roy Croc opened the first McDonald's franchise in
Des
Plaines, Illinois, and in that same year started the McDonald's
Corporation.


:)

I believe it was Ray Croc. First store was about 2 miles from my
childhood
home.

Any White Castles there? I was delivering papers on my bike when I
saw my first MacDonalds, around 79th and Jeffery.
There was an old White Castle a couple blocks east. I tried one of
the McDonald burgers - it was 15 cents. Liked the smaller White
Castle much better - it was 12 cents.
That was '59 I think. Maybe '60.
I still eat 8 White Castles once in a while, when I get the craving, 3
or 4 times a year. Of course I always regret it for a couple days.
Never cared at all for McDonalds. Best thing they have is the
breakfast sandwiches. I'll stop when we travel for that if that's how
our schedule is working, but otherwise stay away.
None of my kids got hooked on that, either, because I only took them
there if we were on the road.
A good hamburger is easy to make.
Now fried chicken - that's another story.

--Vic

ps. I worked in Mac's marketing department for a couple years.
Corporate HQ in Oak Brook.
Amazing business, and a super operation.



Ray Croc bought McD's for the softserve milkshake machine patent at first.
Not for the burger and fries part. The good thing about McD's is the senior
coffee. Very good coffee and I have paid from $0.25 to $0.59 for it. Lot
better price than the big chains and better coffee also.

"Calif Bill" wrote in message m...

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:41:47 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
The high:

Today is the birthday of Leonardo da Vinci, the Italian
genius whose work epitomized the Renaissance humanist ideal and whose
Last
Supper (1495?98) and Mona Lisa (1503?06) are widely influential
paintings.
Born in 1452.

The low:

On this day in 1955, Roy Croc opened the first McDonald's franchise in
Des
Plaines, Illinois, and in that same year started the McDonald's
Corporation.


:)

I believe it was Ray Croc. First store was about 2 miles from my
childhood
home.

Any White Castles there? I was delivering papers on my bike when I
saw my first MacDonalds, around 79th and Jeffery.
There was an old White Castle a couple blocks east. I tried one of
the McDonald burgers - it was 15 cents. Liked the smaller White
Castle much better - it was 12 cents.
That was '59 I think. Maybe '60.
I still eat 8 White Castles once in a while, when I get the craving, 3
or 4 times a year. Of course I always regret it for a couple days.
Never cared at all for McDonalds. Best thing they have is the
breakfast sandwiches. I'll stop when we travel for that if that's how
our schedule is working, but otherwise stay away.
None of my kids got hooked on that, either, because I only took them
there if we were on the road.
A good hamburger is easy to make.
Now fried chicken - that's another story.

--Vic

ps. I worked in Mac's marketing department for a couple years.
Corporate HQ in Oak Brook.
Amazing business, and a super operation.



Ray Croc bought McD's for the softserve milkshake machine patent at first.
Not for the burger and fries part. The good thing about McD's is the senior
coffee. Very good coffee and I have paid from $0.25 to $0.59 for it. Lot
better price than the big chains and better coffee also.



Try not to spill it, I hear its HOT!

AFAIK,

McDonald's (thee original) was one of the first restaurants to
make hamburgers, cheeseburgers and fries in advance of
the actual purchase, hence "Fast Food"

db

D-unit wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message m...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:41:47 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
The high:

Today is the birthday of Leonardo da Vinci, the Italian
genius whose work epitomized the Renaissance humanist ideal and whose
Last
Supper (1495?98) and Mona Lisa (1503?06) are widely influential
paintings.
Born in 1452.

The low:

On this day in 1955, Roy Croc opened the first McDonald's franchise in
Des
Plaines, Illinois, and in that same year started the McDonald's
Corporation.


:)
I believe it was Ray Croc. First store was about 2 miles from my
childhood
home.

Any White Castles there? I was delivering papers on my bike when I
saw my first MacDonalds, around 79th and Jeffery.
There was an old White Castle a couple blocks east. I tried one of
the McDonald burgers - it was 15 cents. Liked the smaller White
Castle much better - it was 12 cents.
That was '59 I think. Maybe '60.
I still eat 8 White Castles once in a while, when I get the craving, 3
or 4 times a year. Of course I always regret it for a couple days.
Never cared at all for McDonalds. Best thing they have is the
breakfast sandwiches. I'll stop when we travel for that if that's how
our schedule is working, but otherwise stay away.
None of my kids got hooked on that, either, because I only took them
there if we were on the road.
A good hamburger is easy to make.
Now fried chicken - that's another story.

--Vic

ps. I worked in Mac's marketing department for a couple years.
Corporate HQ in Oak Brook.
Amazing business, and a super operation.


Ray Croc bought McD's for the softserve milkshake machine patent at first.
Not for the burger and fries part. The good thing about McD's is the senior
coffee. Very good coffee and I have paid from $0.25 to $0.59 for it. Lot
better price than the big chains and better coffee also.



Try not to spill it, I hear its HOT!

AFAIK,

McDonald's (thee original) was one of the first restaurants to
make hamburgers, cheeseburgers and fries in advance of
the actual purchase, hence "Fast Food"

db







I've had the MickeyD's coffee and Ca Bill is correct, it is good coffee.
But...I hate going into the stores because the damned place always
smells like *heavy* fried food, even first thing in the morning, and
that aroma is a personal turn off for me.

I'm not a fan of the "boutique" coffee shops, because I find their
coffee too heavy or strong for my taste. So, when I am out and about and
need a caffeine fix, I just go into an ordinary sandwich/breakfast shop
and get coffee. Regular, ordinary coffee. I like WaWa coffee.

On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:50:18 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:41:47 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
The high:

Today is the birthday of Leonardo da Vinci, the Italian
genius whose work epitomized the Renaissance humanist ideal and whose
Last
Supper (1495?98) and Mona Lisa (1503?06) are widely influential
paintings.
Born in 1452.

The low:

On this day in 1955, Roy Croc opened the first McDonald's franchise in
Des
Plaines, Illinois, and in that same year started the McDonald's
Corporation.


:)

I believe it was Ray Croc. First store was about 2 miles from my
childhood
home.

Any White Castles there? I was delivering papers on my bike when I
saw my first MacDonalds, around 79th and Jeffery.
There was an old White Castle a couple blocks east. I tried one of
the McDonald burgers - it was 15 cents. Liked the smaller White
Castle much better - it was 12 cents.
That was '59 I think. Maybe '60.
I still eat 8 White Castles once in a while, when I get the craving, 3
or 4 times a year. Of course I always regret it for a couple days.
Never cared at all for McDonalds. Best thing they have is the
breakfast sandwiches. I'll stop when we travel for that if that's how
our schedule is working, but otherwise stay away.
None of my kids got hooked on that, either, because I only took them
there if we were on the road.
A good hamburger is easy to make.
Now fried chicken - that's another story.

--Vic

ps. I worked in Mac's marketing department for a couple years.
Corporate HQ in Oak Brook.
Amazing business, and a super operation.



Ray Croc bought McD's for the softserve milkshake machine patent at first.
Not for the burger and fries part. The good thing about McD's is the senior
coffee. Very good coffee and I have paid from $0.25 to $0.59 for it. Lot
better price than the big chains and better coffee also.


Their new coffee is much better than the old. When in Disney World, where
coffee was over $2.00, I asked, in the McDonalds, for a senior coffee. Sure
enough, I got it for $0.59. Not a bad deal.
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)

"John H." wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:50:18 -0700, "Calif Bill"

wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:41:47 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
The high:

Today is the birthday of Leonardo da Vinci, the Italian
genius whose work epitomized the Renaissance humanist ideal and whose
Last
Supper (1495?98) and Mona Lisa (1503?06) are widely influential
paintings.
Born in 1452.

The low:

On this day in 1955, Roy Croc opened the first McDonald's franchise in
Des
Plaines, Illinois, and in that same year started the McDonald's
Corporation.


:)

I believe it was Ray Croc. First store was about 2 miles from my
childhood
home.

Any White Castles there? I was delivering papers on my bike when I
saw my first MacDonalds, around 79th and Jeffery.
There was an old White Castle a couple blocks east. I tried one of
the McDonald burgers - it was 15 cents. Liked the smaller White
Castle much better - it was 12 cents.
That was '59 I think. Maybe '60.
I still eat 8 White Castles once in a while, when I get the craving, 3
or 4 times a year. Of course I always regret it for a couple days.
Never cared at all for McDonalds. Best thing they have is the
breakfast sandwiches. I'll stop when we travel for that if that's how
our schedule is working, but otherwise stay away.
None of my kids got hooked on that, either, because I only took them
there if we were on the road.
A good hamburger is easy to make.
Now fried chicken - that's another story.

--Vic

ps. I worked in Mac's marketing department for a couple years.
Corporate HQ in Oak Brook.
Amazing business, and a super operation.



Ray Croc bought McD's for the softserve milkshake machine patent at first.
Not for the burger and fries part. The good thing about McD's is the
senior
coffee. Very good coffee and I have paid from $0.25 to $0.59 for it. Lot
better price than the big chains and better coffee also.


Their new coffee is much better than the old. When in Disney World, where
coffee was over $2.00, I asked, in the McDonalds, for a senior coffee.
Sure
enough, I got it for $0.59. Not a bad deal.
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)

We were in a town in Italy. Maybe Siena, and we used the McD's restroom.
Couple of old people in there drinking coffee. They said, was a euro and
all the refills they wanted. As opposed to a Euro minimum a cup everywhere
else.

"HK" wrote in message ...
The high:

Today is the birthday of Leonardo da Vinci, the Italian
genius whose work epitomized the Renaissance humanist ideal and whose
Last Supper (1495–98) and Mona Lisa (1503–06) are widely influential
paintings. Born in 1452.

The low:

On this day in 1955, Roy Croc opened the first McDonald's franchise in
Des Plaines, Illinois, and in that same year started the McDonald's
Corporation.


:)

Yup,

It made us FAT. (most of us)

If you watch any footage of the general population
from that time and prior, you'll notice that most
folks are a normal weight.


Go to any locale where people populate these days
and notice that most everyone has "junk in the trunk"

Why?

Fast food, and drive through windows. Not the only
cause, but a major playa.

I know, Im as guilty as anyone.

btw, I think its *rAy* Croc.
He bought the rights for the franchise from the McDonald brothers
(or bought the actual 1st store)
They had the idea/concept of "Fast food". Ray was smart
enough to know that idea would work anywhere and capitalized
on it.

Dave Thomas and Col. Sanders were pretty smart fellows as well
in that regard.


db

D-unit wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ...
The high:

Today is the birthday of Leonardo da Vinci, the Italian
genius whose work epitomized the Renaissance humanist ideal and whose
Last Supper (1495–98) and Mona Lisa (1503–06) are widely influential
paintings. Born in 1452.

The low:

On this day in 1955, Roy Croc opened the first McDonald's franchise in
Des Plaines, Illinois, and in that same year started the McDonald's
Corporation.


:)

Yup,

It made us FAT. (most of us)

If you watch any footage of the general population
from that time and prior, you'll notice that most
folks are a normal weight.


Go to any locale where people populate these days
and notice that most everyone has "junk in the trunk"

Why?

Fast food, and drive through windows. Not the only
cause, but a major playa.

I know, Im as guilty as anyone.

btw, I think its *rAy* Croc.
He bought the rights for the franchise from the McDonald brothers
(or bought the actual 1st store)
They had the idea/concept of "Fast food". Ray was smart
enough to know that idea would work anywhere and capitalized
on it.

Dave Thomas and Col. Sanders were pretty smart fellows as well
in that regard.


db








It was Ray. I screwed up his name on my post. Actually, I wasn't
thinking about how much fat was in McDonald's crap food, but how very
bad it was in terms of *taste*! That's why I picked it as a "low point"
of civilization.

But you are absolutely correct in pointing out the problems in eating
what most fast food joints serve up.

HK wrote:
The high:

Today is the birthday of Leonardo da Vinci, the Italian
genius whose work epitomized the Renaissance humanist ideal and whose
Last Supper (1495–98) and Mona Lisa (1503–06) are widely influential
paintings. Born in 1452.

The low:

On this day in 1955, Roy Croc opened the first McDonald's franchise in
Des Plaines, Illinois, and in that same year started the McDonald's
Corporation.


:)

Wrong name, wrong dates, dumbass.

Ray Kroc and 1961.

http://www.time.com/time/time100/bui...file/kroc.html

Good thing you weren't a journalist.