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HK March 30th 08 03:35 PM

TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
 

Security flap arises over nipple ring removal
Washington Times


March 29, 2008

By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA)
yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger to
remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says more
discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed piercings to
be worn in the future.

"TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the
passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation," said
TSA spokesman Christopher White.

"In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while
giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation," Mr.
White said. "This could include a visual inspection without removal."

Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to remove
the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding Southwest Flight
35 from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas.

Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA during
a video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of Civil Rights
and Liberties to investigate the incident.

"After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the
piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to
remove," Ms. Allred said in the letter.

"Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it
without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her," said
Ms. Allred.

"This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said.
"The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I
checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon."

Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during
the incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One was
removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing stud and
Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it.

The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have hidden
dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past.

"We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we
discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding
explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This
scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports."

On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger
terrorist organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself
and one other.

TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt
additional screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove
your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search."

"Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with body
piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while ensuring a
high level of security," Mr. White said.


- - -

Ahh, the Bush Administration. We're going to miss the high level of
incompetence.


[email protected] March 30th 08 04:36 PM

TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
 

"HK" wrote in message
...

Security flap arises over nipple ring removal
Washington Times


March 29, 2008

By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA)
yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger to
remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says more
discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed piercings to be
worn in the future.

"TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the passenger
involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation," said TSA
spokesman Christopher White.

"In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while giving
additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation," Mr. White
said. "This could include a visual inspection without removal."

Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to remove
the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding Southwest Flight 35
from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas.

Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA during a
video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of Civil Rights and
Liberties to investigate the incident.

"After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the
piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to remove,"
Ms. Allred said in the letter.

"Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it
without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her," said Ms.
Allred.

"This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said. "The
conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I checked a
nipple was not a dangerous weapon."

Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during the
incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One was
removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing stud and
Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it.

The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have hidden
dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past.

"We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we
discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding
explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This
scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports."

On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger terrorist
organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself and one other.

TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt additional
screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove your body
piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search."

"Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with body
piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while ensuring a high
level of security," Mr. White said.


- - -

Ahh, the Bush Administration. We're going to miss the high level of
incompetence.


Between your spending much of your day participating in rec.boats and
finding exciting news articles like this to regurgitate, it's no wonder you
need to go out in the woods and shoot tree stumps, to relieve the stress you
are under.
BTW: How do you hide a 3 pound pistol on your person. The obvious answer is
that just blends in with your excess midriff blubber.


HK March 30th 08 04:48 PM

TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
 
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...

Security flap arises over nipple ring removal
Washington Times


March 29, 2008

By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA)
yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger
to remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says
more discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed
piercings to be worn in the future.

"TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the
passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation,"
said TSA spokesman Christopher White.

"In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while
giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation,"
Mr. White said. "This could include a visual inspection without removal."

Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to
remove the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding
Southwest Flight 35 from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas.

Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA
during a video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of
Civil Rights and Liberties to investigate the incident.

"After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the
piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to
remove," Ms. Allred said in the letter.

"Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove
it without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her,"
said Ms. Allred.

"This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said.
"The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I
checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon."

Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during
the incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One
was removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing
stud and Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it.

The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have
hidden dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past.

"We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we
discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding
explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This
scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports."

On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger
terrorist organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself
and one other.

TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt
additional screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove
your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search."

"Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with
body piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while
ensuring a high level of security," Mr. White said.


- - -

Ahh, the Bush Administration. We're going to miss the high level of
incompetence.


Between your spending much of your day participating in rec.boats and
finding exciting news articles like this to regurgitate, it's no wonder
you need to go out in the woods and shoot tree stumps, to relieve the
stress you are under.
BTW: How do you hide a 3 pound pistol on your person. The obvious
answer is that just blends in with your excess midriff blubber.



What are you raving about, "SloMo"? Why would I need to hide a "3 pound
pistol" on my person?

Here's a question for you, SloMo...why do you post here? You obviously
are not a boater.


[email protected] March 30th 08 05:09 PM

TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
 

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...

Security flap arises over nipple ring removal
Washington Times


March 29, 2008

By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA)
yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger to
remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says more
discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed piercings to
be worn in the future.

"TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the
passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation," said
TSA spokesman Christopher White.

"In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while
giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation," Mr.
White said. "This could include a visual inspection without removal."

Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to remove
the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding Southwest Flight
35 from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas.

Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA during
a video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of Civil Rights
and Liberties to investigate the incident.

"After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the
piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to
remove," Ms. Allred said in the letter.

"Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it
without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her," said
Ms. Allred.

"This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said.
"The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I
checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon."

Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during
the incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One was
removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing stud and
Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it.

The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have hidden
dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past.

"We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we
discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding
explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This
scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports."

On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger
terrorist organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself
and one other.

TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt
additional screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove
your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search."

"Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with body
piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while ensuring a
high level of security," Mr. White said.


- - -

Ahh, the Bush Administration. We're going to miss the high level of
incompetence.


Between your spending much of your day participating in rec.boats and
finding exciting news articles like this to regurgitate, it's no wonder
you need to go out in the woods and shoot tree stumps, to relieve the
stress you are under.
BTW: How do you hide a 3 pound pistol on your person. The obvious answer
is that just blends in with your excess midriff blubber.



What are you raving about, "SloMo"? Why would I need to hide a "3 pound
pistol" on my person?

Here's a question for you, SloMo...why do you post here? You obviously are
not a boater.

SloMo has learned that you have a ccw permit in multiple states. Slo Mo has
also learned that your carry weapon is a Sig X5 9MM. Slo Mo has learned that
you do not carry in DC, but you do carry every where else that's legal. Slo
Mo believes that you are carrying in states that restrict open carry. Slo MO
believes that you are mentally ill and dangerous. Slo Mo thinks you should
sell all of your expensive guns and use the proceeds to feed the hungry
children. And That's all I am going to say about that.


[email protected] March 30th 08 05:20 PM

TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
 
On Mar 30, 11:48*am, HK wrote:
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...


Security flap arises over nipple ring removal
Washington Times


March 29, 2008


By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA)
yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger
to remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says
more discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed
piercings to be worn in the future.


"TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the
passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation,"
said TSA spokesman Christopher White.


"In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while
giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation,"
Mr. White said. "This could include a visual inspection without removal.."


Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to
remove the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding
Southwest Flight 35 from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas.


Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA
during a video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of
Civil Rights and Liberties to investigate the incident.


"After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the
piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to
remove," Ms. Allred said in the letter.


"Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove
it without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her,"
said Ms. Allred.


"This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said.
"The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I
checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon."


Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during
the incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One
was removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing
stud and Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it.


The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have
hidden dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past.


"We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we
discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding
explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This
scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports."


On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger
terrorist organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself
and one other.


TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt
additional screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove
your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search."


"Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with
body piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while
ensuring a high level of security," Mr. White said.


* * * * * * *- - -


Ahh, the Bush Administration. We're going to miss the high level of
incompetence.


Between your spending much of your day participating in rec.boats and
finding exciting news articles like this to regurgitate, it's no wonder
you need to go out in the woods and shoot tree stumps, to relieve the
stress you are under.
BTW: How do you hide *a 3 pound pistol on your person. The obvious
answer is that just blends in with your excess midriff blubber.


What are you raving about, "SloMo"? Why would I need to hide a "3 pound
pistol" on my person?

Here's a question for you, SloMo...why do you post here? You obviously
are not a boater.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Hmm, let's see. Harry posts an article here about the TSA and a nipple
ring, then chides someone else for not posting boating related
posts..........
Care to conjure up all of your posts for the last, say week, and see
just what percentage is boating related?

HK March 30th 08 05:20 PM

TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
 
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...

Security flap arises over nipple ring removal
Washington Times


March 29, 2008

By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA)
yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger
to remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but
says more discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed
piercings to be worn in the future.

"TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the
passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation,"
said TSA spokesman Christopher White.

"In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while
giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation,"
Mr. White said. "This could include a visual inspection without
removal."

Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to
remove the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding
Southwest Flight 35 from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas.

Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA
during a video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of
Civil Rights and Liberties to investigate the incident.

"After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the
piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to
remove," Ms. Allred said in the letter.

"Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not
remove it without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to
her," said Ms. Allred.

"This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred
said. "The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time
that I checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon."

Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures
during the incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the
piercings. One was removed easily, but the skin had grown over the
second piercing stud and Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it.

The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have
hidden dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past.

"We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we
discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding
explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world.
This scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports."

On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger
terrorist organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing
herself and one other.

TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt
additional screening procedures and that they may be asked "to
remove your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down
search."

"Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with
body piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while
ensuring a high level of security," Mr. White said.


- - -

Ahh, the Bush Administration. We're going to miss the high level of
incompetence.


Between your spending much of your day participating in rec.boats and
finding exciting news articles like this to regurgitate, it's no
wonder you need to go out in the woods and shoot tree stumps, to
relieve the stress you are under.
BTW: How do you hide a 3 pound pistol on your person. The obvious
answer is that just blends in with your excess midriff blubber.



What are you raving about, "SloMo"? Why would I need to hide a "3
pound pistol" on my person?

Here's a question for you, SloMo...why do you post here? You obviously
are not a boater.

SloMo has learned that you have a ccw permit in multiple states. Slo Mo
has also learned that your carry weapon is a Sig X5 9MM. Slo Mo has
learned that you do not carry in DC, but you do carry every where else
that's legal. Slo Mo believes that you are carrying in states that
restrict open carry. Slo MO believes that you are mentally ill and
dangerous. Slo Mo thinks you should sell all of your expensive guns and
use the proceeds to feed the hungry children. And That's all I am going
to say about that.



My "carry weapon" is only a Sig X5 when I am carrying on the farmette
here or out by the Shenandoah, and I when I do carry that piece, it sure
as hell ain't concealed. D'oh. It's for protection against dangerous
critters. We don't have any right around here, but there sure as hell
are plenty of them out where we stomp around by the Shenandoah or on the
adjacent mountain trails. The Sig earns its living as a target pistol,
mainly, but it is such a pleasure to shoot, I carry it on those
occasions I described.

I rarely "carry concealed," although I do have the permits to do so.

As for what SloMo believes, who really gives a ****, eh? I mean, its not
as if anything you think matters to anyone.

[email protected] March 30th 08 06:27 PM

TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
 
On Mar 30, 12:20*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...


Security flap arises over nipple ring removal
Washington Times


March 29, 2008


By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA)
yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger
to remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but
says more discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed
piercings to be worn in the future.


"TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the
passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation,"
said TSA spokesman Christopher White.


"In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while
giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation,"
Mr. White said. "This could include a visual inspection without
removal."


Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to
remove the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding
Southwest Flight 35 from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas.


Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA
during a video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of
Civil Rights and Liberties to investigate the incident.


"After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the
piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to
remove," Ms. Allred said in the letter.


"Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not
remove it without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to
her," said Ms. Allred.


"This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred
said. "The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time
that I checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon."


Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures
during the incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the
piercings. One was removed easily, but the skin had grown over the
second piercing stud and Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it..


The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have
hidden dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past.


"We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we
discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding
explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world.
This scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports."


On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger
terrorist organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing
herself and one other.


TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt
additional screening procedures and that they may be asked "to
remove your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down
search."


"Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with
body piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while
ensuring a high level of security," Mr. White said.


* * * * * * *- - -


Ahh, the Bush Administration. We're going to miss the high level of
incompetence.


Between your spending much of your day participating in rec.boats and
finding exciting news articles like this to regurgitate, it's no
wonder you need to go out in the woods and shoot tree stumps, to
relieve the stress you are under.
BTW: How do you hide *a 3 pound pistol on your person. The obvious
answer is that just blends in with your excess midriff blubber.


What are you raving about, "SloMo"? Why would I need to hide a "3
pound pistol" on my person?


Here's a question for you, SloMo...why do you post here? You obviously
are not a boater.


SloMo has learned that you have a ccw permit in multiple states. Slo Mo
has also learned that your carry weapon is a Sig X5 9MM. Slo Mo has
learned that you do not carry in DC, but you do carry every where else
that's legal. Slo Mo believes that you are carrying in states that
restrict open carry. Slo MO believes that you are mentally ill and
dangerous. Slo Mo thinks you should sell all of your expensive guns and
use the proceeds to feed the hungry children. And That's all I am going
to say about that.


My "carry weapon" is only a Sig X5 when I am carrying on the farmette
here or out by the Shenandoah, and I when I do carry that piece, it sure
as hell ain't concealed. *D'oh. It's for protection against dangerous
critters. We don't have any right around here, but there sure as hell
are plenty of them out where we stomp around by the Shenandoah or on the
adjacent mountain trails. The Sig earns its living as a target pistol,
mainly, but it is such a pleasure to shoot, I carry it on those
occasions I described.

I rarely "carry concealed," although I do have the permits to do so.

As for what SloMo believes, who really gives a ****, eh? I mean, its not
as if anything you think matters to anyone.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


If you're that much of a scared pussy, stay home.

[email protected] March 30th 08 06:55 PM

TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
 
On Mar 30, 2:30*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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...
On Mar 30, 11:48 am, HK wrote:





wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...


Security flap arises over nipple ring removal
Washington Times


March 29, 2008


By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA)
yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger
to remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says
more discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed
piercings to be worn in the future.


"TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the
passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation,"
said TSA spokesman Christopher White.


"In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while
giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation,"
Mr. White said. "This could include a visual inspection without
removal."


Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to
remove the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding
Southwest Flight 35 from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas.


Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA
during a video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of
Civil Rights and Liberties to investigate the incident.


"After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the
piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to
remove," Ms. Allred said in the letter.


"Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove
it without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her,"
said Ms. Allred.


"This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said.
"The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I
checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon."


Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during
the incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One
was removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing
stud and Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it.


The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have
hidden dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past.


"We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we
discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding
explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This
scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports."


On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger
terrorist organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself
and one other.


TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt
additional screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove
your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search."


"Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with
body piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while
ensuring a high level of security," Mr. White said.


- - -


Ahh, the Bush Administration. We're going to miss the high level of
incompetence.


Between your spending much of your day participating in rec.boats and
finding exciting news articles like this to regurgitate, it's no wonder
you need to go out in the woods and shoot tree stumps, to relieve the
stress you are under.
BTW: How do you hide a 3 pound pistol on your person. The obvious
answer is that just blends in with your excess midriff blubber.


What are you raving about, "SloMo"? Why would I need to hide a "3 pound
pistol" on my person?


Here's a question for you, SloMo...why do you post here? You obviously
are not a boater.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Hmm, let's see. Harry posts an article here about the TSA and a nipple
ring, then chides someone else for not posting boating related
posts..........
Care to conjure up all of your posts for the last, say week, and see
just what percentage is boating related?

But nipples have caused a lot of trouble over the years. *Lots of young and
older men have had major trouble because of female nipples.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I've had MY share of troubles because of them.

John H.[_3_] March 30th 08 07:27 PM

TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
 
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:09:53 -0400, "
wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...

Security flap arises over nipple ring removal
Washington Times


March 29, 2008

By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA)
yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger to
remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says more
discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed piercings to
be worn in the future.

"TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the
passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation," said
TSA spokesman Christopher White.

"In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while
giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation," Mr.
White said. "This could include a visual inspection without removal."

Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to remove
the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding Southwest Flight
35 from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas.

Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA during
a video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of Civil Rights
and Liberties to investigate the incident.

"After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the
piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to
remove," Ms. Allred said in the letter.

"Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it
without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her," said
Ms. Allred.

"This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said.
"The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I
checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon."

Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during
the incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One was
removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing stud and
Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it.

The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have hidden
dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past.

"We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we
discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding
explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This
scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports."

On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger
terrorist organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself
and one other.

TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt
additional screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove
your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search."

"Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with body
piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while ensuring a
high level of security," Mr. White said.


- - -

Ahh, the Bush Administration. We're going to miss the high level of
incompetence.


Between your spending much of your day participating in rec.boats and
finding exciting news articles like this to regurgitate, it's no wonder
you need to go out in the woods and shoot tree stumps, to relieve the
stress you are under.
BTW: How do you hide a 3 pound pistol on your person. The obvious answer
is that just blends in with your excess midriff blubber.



What are you raving about, "SloMo"? Why would I need to hide a "3 pound
pistol" on my person?

Here's a question for you, SloMo...why do you post here? You obviously are
not a boater.

SloMo has learned that you have a ccw permit in multiple states. Slo Mo has
also learned that your carry weapon is a Sig X5 9MM. Slo Mo has learned that
you do not carry in DC, but you do carry every where else that's legal. Slo
Mo believes that you are carrying in states that restrict open carry. Slo MO
believes that you are mentally ill and dangerous. Slo Mo thinks you should
sell all of your expensive guns and use the proceeds to feed the hungry
children. And That's all I am going to say about that.


And, as he brings it up, I'm wondering what part of Harry's nipple story
was boating related.
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)

Calif Bill March 30th 08 07:30 PM

TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
 

wrote in message
...
On Mar 30, 11:48 am, HK wrote:
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...


Security flap arises over nipple ring removal
Washington Times


March 29, 2008


By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA)
yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger
to remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says
more discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed
piercings to be worn in the future.


"TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the
passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation,"
said TSA spokesman Christopher White.


"In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while
giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation,"
Mr. White said. "This could include a visual inspection without
removal."


Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to
remove the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding
Southwest Flight 35 from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas.


Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA
during a video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of
Civil Rights and Liberties to investigate the incident.


"After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the
piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to
remove," Ms. Allred said in the letter.


"Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove
it without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her,"
said Ms. Allred.


"This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said.
"The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I
checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon."


Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during
the incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One
was removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing
stud and Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it.


The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have
hidden dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past.


"We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we
discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding
explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This
scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports."


On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger
terrorist organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself
and one other.


TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt
additional screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove
your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search."


"Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with
body piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while
ensuring a high level of security," Mr. White said.


- - -


Ahh, the Bush Administration. We're going to miss the high level of
incompetence.


Between your spending much of your day participating in rec.boats and
finding exciting news articles like this to regurgitate, it's no wonder
you need to go out in the woods and shoot tree stumps, to relieve the
stress you are under.
BTW: How do you hide a 3 pound pistol on your person. The obvious
answer is that just blends in with your excess midriff blubber.


What are you raving about, "SloMo"? Why would I need to hide a "3 pound
pistol" on my person?

Here's a question for you, SloMo...why do you post here? You obviously
are not a boater.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Hmm, let's see. Harry posts an article here about the TSA and a nipple
ring, then chides someone else for not posting boating related
posts..........
Care to conjure up all of your posts for the last, say week, and see
just what percentage is boating related?

But nipples have caused a lot of trouble over the years. Lots of young and
older men have had major trouble because of female nipples.



DownTime[_2_] March 31st 08 12:00 AM

TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
 
Calif Bill wrote:
But nipples have caused a lot of trouble over the years. Lots of young and
older men have had major trouble because of female nipples.

Just last summer, while BOATING to a local beach, we encountered not
one, but TWO pairs of nipples. I'd like to think maybe it was my
charming personality that reeled em in, but I suspect it had more to do
with our gas powered blender and my buddy offering up free drinks to
anyone with their own cup. They each willingly swam over with their own
cups. It was a fine boating day.

Ahhhhhh, the memories of the sea...

HK March 31st 08 12:12 AM

TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
 
DownTime wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
But nipples have caused a lot of trouble over the years. Lots of
young and older men have had major trouble because of female nipples.

Just last summer, while BOATING to a local beach, we encountered not
one, but TWO pairs of nipples. I'd like to think maybe it was my
charming personality that reeled em in, but I suspect it had more to do
with our gas powered blender and my buddy offering up free drinks to
anyone with their own cup. They each willingly swam over with their own
cups. It was a fine boating day.

Ahhhhhh, the memories of the sea...



Free the sweater bunnies!

Canuck57 March 31st 08 12:52 AM

TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
 

"HK" wrote in message
...

Security flap arises over nipple ring removal
Washington Times


March 29, 2008

By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA)
yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger to
remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says more
discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed piercings to be
worn in the future.

"TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the passenger
involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation," said TSA
spokesman Christopher White.

"In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while giving
additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation," Mr. White
said. "This could include a visual inspection without removal."

Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to remove
the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding Southwest Flight 35
from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas.

Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA during a
video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of Civil Rights and
Liberties to investigate the incident.

"After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the
piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to remove,"
Ms. Allred said in the letter.

"Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it
without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her," said Ms.
Allred.

"This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said. "The
conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I checked a
nipple was not a dangerous weapon."

Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during the
incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One was
removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing stud and
Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it.

The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have hidden
dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past.

"We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we
discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding
explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This
scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports."

On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger terrorist
organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself and one other.

TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt additional
screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove your body
piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search."

"Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with body
piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while ensuring a high
level of security," Mr. White said.


I wonder if C4 comes in liquid form. Might get Pam Anderson to remove
them.....

Hahahaha....

Next thing you know you will have to get an enema before flying.



HK March 31st 08 01:18 AM

TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
 
Canuck57 wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Security flap arises over nipple ring removal
Washington Times


March 29, 2008

By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA)
yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger to
remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says more
discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed piercings to be
worn in the future.

"TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the passenger
involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation," said TSA
spokesman Christopher White.

"In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while giving
additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation," Mr. White
said. "This could include a visual inspection without removal."

Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to remove
the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding Southwest Flight 35
from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas.

Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA during a
video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of Civil Rights and
Liberties to investigate the incident.

"After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the
piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to remove,"
Ms. Allred said in the letter.

"Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it
without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her," said Ms.
Allred.

"This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said. "The
conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I checked a
nipple was not a dangerous weapon."

Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during the
incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One was
removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing stud and
Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it.

The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have hidden
dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past.

"We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we
discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding
explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This
scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports."

On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger terrorist
organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself and one other.

TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt additional
screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove your body
piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search."

"Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with body
piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while ensuring a high
level of security," Mr. White said.


I wonder if C4 comes in liquid form. Might get Pam Anderson to remove
them.....

Hahahaha....

Next thing you know you will have to get an enema before flying.




Not that *any* of the TSA nonsense makes commercial flight safer. What a
crock "Homeland Security" is.

HK March 31st 08 01:34 AM

TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
 
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Canuck57 wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Security flap arises over nipple ring removal
Washington Times


March 29, 2008

By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA)
yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger to
remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says more
discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed piercings to
be worn in the future.

"TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the
passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation," said
TSA spokesman Christopher White.

"In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while
giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation," Mr.
White said. "This could include a visual inspection without removal."

Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to remove
the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding Southwest Flight
35 from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas.

Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA during
a video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of Civil Rights
and Liberties to investigate the incident.

"After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the
piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to
remove," Ms. Allred said in the letter.

"Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it
without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her," said
Ms. Allred.

"This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said.
"The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I
checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon."

Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during
the incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One was
removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing stud and
Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it.

The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have hidden
dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past.

"We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we
discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding
explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This
scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports."

On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger
terrorist organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself
and one other.

TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt
additional screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove
your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search."

"Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with body
piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while ensuring a
high level of security," Mr. White said.
I wonder if C4 comes in liquid form. Might get Pam Anderson to remove
them.....

Hahahaha....

Next thing you know you will have to get an enema before flying.


Not that *any* of the TSA nonsense makes commercial flight safer. What a
crock "Homeland Security" is.



No terrorist attacks on US soil or planes since 9-11.

A crock?

Eh?



Geography.

[email protected] March 31st 08 04:33 AM

TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
 
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 20:26:48 -0400, JimH wrote:


No terrorist attacks on US soil or planes since 9-11.

A crock?

Eh?


Selective memory? The Beltway Sniper killed innocent people. That alone
would make him a terrorist, but he also had clear ties to Islam. And, I
guess, you were asleep during the anthrax attacks. If they weren't
terrorist, what were they?

[email protected] March 31st 08 01:23 PM

TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
 
On Mar 30, 8:26*pm, "JimH" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

. ..





Canuck57 wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Security flap arises over nipple ring removal
Washington Times


March 29, 2008


By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA)
yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger to
remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says more
discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed piercings to
be worn in the future.


"TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the
passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation," said
TSA spokesman Christopher White.


"In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while
giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation," Mr.


[email protected] March 31st 08 03:25 PM

TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
 
On Mar 31, 11:07*am, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 05:23:08 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 30, 8:26*pm, "JimH" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message


m...


Canuck57 wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Security flap arises over nipple ring removal
Washington Times


March 29, 2008


By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA)
yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger to
remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says more
discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed piercings to
be worn in the future.


"TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the
passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation," said
TSA spokesman Christopher White.


"In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while
giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation," Mr.
White said. "This could include a visual inspection without removal.."


Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to remove
the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding Southwest Flight
35 from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas.


Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA during
a video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of Civil Rights
and Liberties to investigate the incident.


"After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the
piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to
remove," Ms. Allred said in the letter.


"Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it
without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her," said
Ms. Allred.


"This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said.
"The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I
checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon."


Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during
the incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One was
removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing stud and
Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it.


The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have hidden
dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past.


"We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we
discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding
explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This
scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports."


On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger
terrorist organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself
and one other.


TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt
additional screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove
your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search."


"Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with body
piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while ensuring a
high level of security," Mr. White said.


I wonder if C4 comes in liquid form. *Might get Pam Anderson to remove
them.....


Hahahaha....


Next thing you know you will have to get an enema before flying.


Not that *any* of the TSA nonsense makes commercial flight safer. What a
crock "Homeland Security" is.


No terrorist attacks on US soil or planes since 9-11.


A crock?


Eh?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Please show us what evidence you have that the lack of terrorist
attacks on US soil is the direct result of the TSA or Homeland
Security.


I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any
other security agencies have had no effect.

The terrorists have just become a bunch of nice guys.

This ABC story is all a lie.http://tinyurl.com/32jwx7

--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Where did I EVER say such a thing? You shouldn't go around putting
words in people's mouths.

[email protected] March 31st 08 03:26 PM

TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
 
On Mar 31, 11:07*am, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 05:23:08 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 30, 8:26*pm, "JimH" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message


m...


Canuck57 wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Security flap arises over nipple ring removal
Washington Times


March 29, 2008


By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA)
yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger to
remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says more
discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed piercings to
be worn in the future.


"TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the
passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation," said
TSA spokesman Christopher White.


"In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while
giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation," Mr.
White said. "This could include a visual inspection without removal.."


Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to remove
the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding Southwest Flight
35 from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas.


Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA during
a video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of Civil Rights
and Liberties to investigate the incident.


"After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the
piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to
remove," Ms. Allred said in the letter.


"Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it
without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her," said
Ms. Allred.


"This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said.
"The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I
checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon."


Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during
the incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One was
removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing stud and
Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it.


The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have hidden
dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past.


"We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we
discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding
explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This
scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports."


On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger
terrorist organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself
and one other.


TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt
additional screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove
your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search."


"Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with body
piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while ensuring a
high level of security," Mr. White said.


I wonder if C4 comes in liquid form. *Might get Pam Anderson to remove
them.....


Hahahaha....


Next thing you know you will have to get an enema before flying.


Not that *any* of the TSA nonsense makes commercial flight safer. What a
crock "Homeland Security" is.


No terrorist attacks on US soil or planes since 9-11.


A crock?


Eh?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Please show us what evidence you have that the lack of terrorist
attacks on US soil is the direct result of the TSA or Homeland
Security.


I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any
other security agencies have had no effect.

The terrorists have just become a bunch of nice guys.

This ABC story is all a lie.http://tinyurl.com/32jwx7

--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Oh, and the article? Speculative at best.

John H.[_3_] March 31st 08 04:07 PM

TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
 
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 05:23:08 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Mar 30, 8:26*pm, "JimH" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

. ..





Canuck57 wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Security flap arises over nipple ring removal
Washington Times


March 29, 2008


By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA)
yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger to
remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says more
discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed piercings to
be worn in the future.


"TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the
passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation," said
TSA spokesman Christopher White.


"In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while
giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation," Mr.
White said. "This could include a visual inspection without removal."


Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to remove
the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding Southwest Flight
35 from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas.


Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA during
a video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of Civil Rights
and Liberties to investigate the incident.


"After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the
piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to
remove," Ms. Allred said in the letter.


"Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it
without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her," said
Ms. Allred.


"This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said.
"The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I
checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon."


Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during
the incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One was
removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing stud and
Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it.


The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have hidden
dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past.


"We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we
discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding
explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This
scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports."


On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger
terrorist organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself
and one other.


TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt
additional screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove
your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search."


"Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with body
piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while ensuring a
high level of security," Mr. White said.


I wonder if C4 comes in liquid form. *Might get Pam Anderson to remove
them.....


Hahahaha....


Next thing you know you will have to get an enema before flying.


Not that *any* of the TSA nonsense makes commercial flight safer. What a
crock "Homeland Security" is.


No terrorist attacks on US soil or planes since 9-11.

A crock?

Eh?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Please show us what evidence you have that the lack of terrorist
attacks on US soil is the direct result of the TSA or Homeland
Security.


I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any
other security agencies have had no effect.

The terrorists have just become a bunch of nice guys.

This ABC story is all a lie.
http://tinyurl.com/32jwx7

--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)

HK March 31st 08 04:56 PM

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John H. wrote:


I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any
other security agencies have had no effect.


Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it
controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country.

D.Duck[_2_] March 31st 08 05:03 PM

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"HK" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:


I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any
other security agencies have had no effect.


Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it
controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country.


It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all*
attacks.



HK March 31st 08 05:08 PM

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D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:

I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any
other security agencies have had no effect.

Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it
controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country.


It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all*
attacks.




The only reason al Qaeda hasn't mounted a large-scale attack is because
it doesn't want to.

Al-Qaeda grooming militants who 'look western': CIA chief

8 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AFP) — The head of the main US spy agency has warned that
Al-Qaeda is training operatives who "look western" and could enter the
United States undetected to conduct terrorist attacks.

Central Intelligence Agency Director General Michael Hayden also said
the terror network, which over the past 18 months has established a
"safe haven" in Pakistan's tribal areas along the Afghanistan border,
has shed its operational reliance on mastermind Osama bin Laden.

"They are bringing operatives into that region for training --
operatives that, a phrase I would use, wouldn't attract your attention
if they were going through the customs line at Dulles (airport near
Washington DC) with you," Hayden told NBC television Sunday.

The new recruits "look western" and "would be able to come into this
country ... without attracting the kind of attention that others might,"
he said.

Hayden pointed to improved intelligence techniques in the federally
administered tribal areas, due to "good cooperation from a variety of
allies" in Pakistan's tribal regions, for the information on the
Al-Qaeda recruits.

But much of the improvement was merely regaining ground that was lost
through what Hayden described as an "absolutely disastrous" hands-off
policy in the region by Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf in 2006
that led to Al-Qaeda's increased organizational ability there.

"He was, in fact, pulling forces and the writ of the Pakistani
government back from the tribal region, and Al-Qaeda and the Taliban
were having more and more free reign there."

*In an annual threat assessment released in February, US intelligence
reported it had detected an influx of new western recruits to Al-Qaeda
safe havens in Pakistan's federally administered tribal areas since 2006.

"Al-Qaeda is improving the last key aspect of its ability to attack the
US -- the identification, training, and positioning of operatives for an
attack in the homeland," the report said.*

In presenting the report to Congress, US intelligence chief Mike
McConnell also said that plots uncovered in New Jersey and Illinois this
year "highlights the diverse threat posed by homeland-based radical
Muslims inspired by extremist ideology."

Hayden also stressed that while he was confident Al-Qaeda mastermind
Osama bin Laden was still hiding out near the Afghanistan-Pakistan
border, the Saudi-born fighter no longer has operational control over
the terror network.

This now lies with Egyptian militants, he argued, although he said bin
Laden remains an "iconic figure," and the CIA is making "every effort to
kill or capture" him along with his Al-Qaeda lieutenants.

"Let me use (the term) iconic figure. His presence ... gives a certain
punch, a certain image, to the global movement," Hayden said.

"But he's not operationally involved. An awful lot of the operational
force of Al-Qaeda -- the Arabic name is ... often finished by the
country they are from -- an awful lot of them are al-Masris, which means
'the Egyptians.'"

Al-Qaeda's number two is Ayman Al-Zawahiri, an Egyptian militant who the
US director of national intelligence Michael McConnell last September
called "the real intellectual leader of Al-Qaeda."

Bin Laden has claimed responsibility for the September 11, 2001, attacks
on the United States, which killed nearly 3,000 people and prompted the
US-led invasion of Afghanistan.

Eisboch March 31st 08 05:25 PM

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"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

"HK" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:


I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any
other security agencies have had no effect.


Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it
controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country.


It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all*
attacks.


True.

With some regret I finally put Harry in my Bozo bin along with the sneaker
salesman from China.
After 8 years of his constant negativity about anything and everything about
our country and it's
government, I had enough. Healthy debate is fine, but daily doses of
anti-everything spin gets old.

If things continue as they are currently heading and the Dems lose this
election (that should have been theirs for the taking), Harry is going to
have a really bad day. He can complain to the sneaker guy.

Eisboch



HK March 31st 08 05:35 PM

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Eisboch wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
"HK" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:

I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any
other security agencies have had no effect.

Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it
controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country.

It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all*
attacks.


True.

With some regret I finally put Harry in my Bozo bin along with the sneaker
salesman from China.
After 8 years of his constant negativity about anything and everything about
our country and it's
government, I had enough. Healthy debate is fine, but daily doses of
anti-everything spin gets old.

If things continue as they are currently heading and the Dems lose this
election (that should have been theirs for the taking), Harry is going to
have a really bad day. He can complain to the sneaker guy.

Eisboch




It's not this country that has screwed up royally, it is the executive
branch of our government, and its enablers in Congress.

Some 70% of Americans believe the Bush Administration has been taking
this country in the wrong direction.

If we have honest elections this fall, we will have a Democratic
president in January and the eight year national nightmare will begin to
subside.

I realize the majority of posters in this newsgroup are hardcore
Republicans. I'll be sure to feel your pain the next eight years.

:)


Jim March 31st 08 05:45 PM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

"HK" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:


I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and
any
other security agencies have had no effect.


Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it
controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country.


It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all*
attacks.


True.

With some regret I finally put Harry in my Bozo bin along with the sneaker
salesman from China.
After 8 years of his constant negativity about anything and everything
about our country and it's
government, I had enough. Healthy debate is fine, but daily doses of
anti-everything spin gets old.

If things continue as they are currently heading and the Dems lose this
election (that should have been theirs for the taking), Harry is going to
have a really bad day. He can complain to the sneaker guy.

Eisboch

What keywords did you use to get rid of sneaker guy?
Harry's been in and out of my bozo bin. I take him out when it gets slow
here. He should probably be left in. But he's fun to play with occasionally.


HK March 31st 08 05:54 PM

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John H. wrote:
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:03:59 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:

I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any
other security agencies have had no effect.

Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it
controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country.

It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all*
attacks.


Whoa. There weren't any terrorist attacks on Americans during the last
Democrat administration!

:)



How many Americans were killed on U.S. soil during foreign terrorist
attacks during the last *Democratic* administration, bozo?


HK March 31st 08 05:56 PM

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Jim wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

"HK" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:


I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI,
and any
other security agencies have had no effect.


Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies
it controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country.

It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all*
attacks.


True.

With some regret I finally put Harry in my Bozo bin along with the
sneaker salesman from China.
After 8 years of his constant negativity about anything and everything
about our country and it's
government, I had enough. Healthy debate is fine, but daily doses of
anti-everything spin gets old.

If things continue as they are currently heading and the Dems lose
this election (that should have been theirs for the taking), Harry is
going to have a really bad day. He can complain to the sneaker guy.

Eisboch

What keywords did you use to get rid of sneaker guy?
Harry's been in and out of my bozo bin. I take him out when it gets slow
here. He should probably be left in. But he's fun to play with
occasionally.





Probably "Florida Jim." That usually puts the trash out on the curb.

John H.[_3_] March 31st 08 06:42 PM

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On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 07:25:20 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Mar 31, 11:07*am, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 05:23:08 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 30, 8:26*pm, "JimH" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message


m...


Canuck57 wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Security flap arises over nipple ring removal
Washington Times


March 29, 2008


By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA)
yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger to
remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says more
discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed piercings to
be worn in the future.


"TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the
passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation," said
TSA spokesman Christopher White.


"In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while
giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation," Mr.
White said. "This could include a visual inspection without removal."


Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to remove
the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding Southwest Flight
35 from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas.


Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA during
a video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of Civil Rights
and Liberties to investigate the incident.


"After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the
piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to
remove," Ms. Allred said in the letter.


"Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it
without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her," said
Ms. Allred.


"This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said.
"The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I
checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon."


Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during
the incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One was
removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing stud and
Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it.


The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have hidden
dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past.


"We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we
discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding
explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This
scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports."


On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger
terrorist organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself
and one other.


TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt
additional screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove
your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search."


"Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with body
piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while ensuring a
high level of security," Mr. White said.


I wonder if C4 comes in liquid form. *Might get Pam Anderson to remove
them.....


Hahahaha....


Next thing you know you will have to get an enema before flying.


Not that *any* of the TSA nonsense makes commercial flight safer. What a
crock "Homeland Security" is.


No terrorist attacks on US soil or planes since 9-11.


A crock?


Eh?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Please show us what evidence you have that the lack of terrorist
attacks on US soil is the direct result of the TSA or Homeland
Security.


I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any
other security agencies have had no effect.

The terrorists have just become a bunch of nice guys.

This ABC story is all a lie.
http://tinyurl.com/32jwx7

--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Where did I EVER say such a thing? You shouldn't go around putting
words in people's mouths.


I put no words in your mouth. I simply said you were right. How could you
possibly disagree with that?

If you want to be wrong, that's OK too. I'm easy to get along with.
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)

John H.[_3_] March 31st 08 06:49 PM

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On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:03:59 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:


I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any
other security agencies have had no effect.


Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it
controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country.


It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all*
attacks.


Whoa. There weren't any terrorist attacks on Americans during the last
Democrat administration!

:)
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)

[email protected] March 31st 08 06:53 PM

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On Mar 31, 12:56*pm, HK wrote:
Jim wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
m...


"D.Duck" wrote in message
...


"HK" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:


I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI,
and any
other security agencies have had no effect.


Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies
it controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country..


It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all*
attacks.


True.


With some regret I finally put Harry in my Bozo bin along with the
sneaker salesman from China.
After 8 years of his constant negativity about anything and everything
about our country and it's
government, I had enough. *Healthy debate is fine, but daily doses of
anti-everything spin gets old.


If things continue as they are currently heading and the Dems lose
this election (that should have been theirs for the taking), Harry is
going to have a really bad day. *He can complain to the sneaker guy.


Eisboch


What keywords did you use to get rid of sneaker guy?
Harry's been in and out of my bozo bin. I take him out when it gets slow
here. He should probably be left in. But he's fun to play with
occasionally.


Probably "Florida Jim." That usually puts the trash out on the curb.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Uh, Harry, Eisboch was talking about YOU in his bozo bin. One of the
nicest guys here now has had enough of you.

Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] March 31st 08 08:05 PM

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On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:49:03 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:03:59 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:


I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any
other security agencies have had no effect.


Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it
controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country.


It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all*
attacks.


Whoa. There weren't any terrorist attacks on Americans during the last
Democrat administration!

:)


Um...yes there were.

Including two that they committed themselves.

John H.[_3_] March 31st 08 09:07 PM

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On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:05:21 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:49:03 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:03:59 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:


I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any
other security agencies have had no effect.


Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it
controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country.

It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all*
attacks.


Whoa. There weren't any terrorist attacks on Americans during the last
Democrat administration!

:)


Um...yes there were.

Including two that they committed themselves.


Oh my gosh! I thought it was only the Bush administration. My bad!
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)

Jim March 31st 08 09:28 PM

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"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:05:21 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:49:03 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:03:59 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:


I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and
any
other security agencies have had no effect.


Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies
it
controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country.

It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all*
attacks.

Whoa. There weren't any terrorist attacks on Americans during the last
Democrat administration!

:)


Um...yes there were.

Including two that they committed themselves.


Oh my gosh! I thought it was only the Bush administration. My bad!
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)

You need to stop listening to left wing talk radio and HRC.;-=


HK March 31st 08 11:19 PM

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John H. wrote:
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:28:10 -0400, "Jim" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:05:21 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:49:03 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:03:59 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:

I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and
any
other security agencies have had no effect.

Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies
it
controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country.
It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all*
attacks.
Whoa. There weren't any terrorist attacks on Americans during the last
Democrat administration!

:)
Um...yes there were.

Including two that they committed themselves.
Oh my gosh! I thought it was only the Bush administration. My bad!
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)

You need to stop listening to left wing talk radio and HRC.;-=


I don't know, Al Franken really turns me on.



Splashed your boat yet?

HK March 31st 08 11:19 PM

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Jim wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:05:21 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:49:03 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:03:59 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:


I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI,
and any
other security agencies have had no effect.


Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the
agencies it
controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country.

It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all*
attacks.

Whoa. There weren't any terrorist attacks on Americans during the last
Democrat administration!

:)

Um...yes there were.

Including two that they committed themselves.


Oh my gosh! I thought it was only the Bush administration. My bad!
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)

You need to stop listening to left wing talk radio and HRC.;-=



Been boating yet?

John H.[_3_] April 1st 08 12:09 AM

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On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:28:10 -0400, "Jim" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:05:21 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:49:03 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:03:59 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:


I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and
any
other security agencies have had no effect.


Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies
it
controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country.

It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all*
attacks.

Whoa. There weren't any terrorist attacks on Americans during the last
Democrat administration!

:)

Um...yes there were.

Including two that they committed themselves.


Oh my gosh! I thought it was only the Bush administration. My bad!
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)

You need to stop listening to left wing talk radio and HRC.;-=


I don't know, Al Franken really turns me on.
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)

[email protected] April 1st 08 01:33 PM

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On Mar 31, 6:19*pm, HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:28:10 -0400, "Jim" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:05:21 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:


On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:49:03 -0500, John H.
wrote:


On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:03:59 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:


I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and
any
other security agencies have had no effect.


Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies
it
controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country..
It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all*
attacks.
Whoa. There weren't any terrorist attacks on Americans during the last
Democrat administration!


*:)
Um...yes there were.


Including two that they committed themselves.
Oh my gosh! I thought it was only the Bush administration. My bad!
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)
You need to stop listening to left wing talk radio and HRC.;-=


I don't know, Al Franken really turns me on.


Splashed your boat yet?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


This is cute, now Harry is going to be a boating only poster!!!!!! And
gee, who STARTED this thread???

Robert M. Gary April 1st 08 05:32 PM

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On Mar 30, 7:35*am, HK wrote:
Security flap arises over nipple ring removal
Washington Times


I'll post this because I'm sure it will apply to boats as well. The
TSA and US Customs is currently proposing new rules for traveling
overseas by private vehicles (airplanes, and probably boats). They are
asking that you provide them a list of passengers 1 week before you
depart and then you stop at US Customs as your last stop in the US for
them to give final approval of the passengers leaving the US. It will
be first first time in US history that Americans have had to ask
permission to leave the US. I'm sure they will examine the examples of
the Soviet Union on how to do such.

-Robert

John H.[_3_] April 1st 08 08:18 PM

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On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:32:05 -0700 (PDT), "Robert M. Gary"
wrote:

On Mar 30, 7:35*am, HK wrote:
Security flap arises over nipple ring removal
Washington Times


I'll post this because I'm sure it will apply to boats as well. The
TSA and US Customs is currently proposing new rules for traveling
overseas by private vehicles (airplanes, and probably boats). They are
asking that you provide them a list of passengers 1 week before you
depart and then you stop at US Customs as your last stop in the US for
them to give final approval of the passengers leaving the US. It will
be first first time in US history that Americans have had to ask
permission to leave the US. I'm sure they will examine the examples of
the Soviet Union on how to do such.

-Robert


It would be nice if they asked all those coming north at the Mexican border
for a passport.
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)


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