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TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
Security flap arises over nipple ring removal Washington Times March 29, 2008 By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger to remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says more discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed piercings to be worn in the future. "TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation," said TSA spokesman Christopher White. "In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation," Mr. White said. "This could include a visual inspection without removal." Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to remove the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding Southwest Flight 35 from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas. Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA during a video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of Civil Rights and Liberties to investigate the incident. "After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to remove," Ms. Allred said in the letter. "Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her," said Ms. Allred. "This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said. "The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon." Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during the incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One was removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing stud and Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it. The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have hidden dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past. "We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports." On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger terrorist organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself and one other. TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt additional screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search." "Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with body piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while ensuring a high level of security," Mr. White said. - - - Ahh, the Bush Administration. We're going to miss the high level of incompetence. |
TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
"HK" wrote in message ... Security flap arises over nipple ring removal Washington Times March 29, 2008 By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger to remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says more discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed piercings to be worn in the future. "TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation," said TSA spokesman Christopher White. "In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation," Mr. White said. "This could include a visual inspection without removal." Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to remove the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding Southwest Flight 35 from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas. Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA during a video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of Civil Rights and Liberties to investigate the incident. "After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to remove," Ms. Allred said in the letter. "Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her," said Ms. Allred. "This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said. "The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon." Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during the incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One was removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing stud and Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it. The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have hidden dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past. "We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports." On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger terrorist organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself and one other. TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt additional screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search." "Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with body piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while ensuring a high level of security," Mr. White said. - - - Ahh, the Bush Administration. We're going to miss the high level of incompetence. Between your spending much of your day participating in rec.boats and finding exciting news articles like this to regurgitate, it's no wonder you need to go out in the woods and shoot tree stumps, to relieve the stress you are under. BTW: How do you hide a 3 pound pistol on your person. The obvious answer is that just blends in with your excess midriff blubber. |
TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
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"HK" wrote in message ... Security flap arises over nipple ring removal Washington Times March 29, 2008 By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger to remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says more discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed piercings to be worn in the future. "TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation," said TSA spokesman Christopher White. "In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation," Mr. White said. "This could include a visual inspection without removal." Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to remove the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding Southwest Flight 35 from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas. Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA during a video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of Civil Rights and Liberties to investigate the incident. "After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to remove," Ms. Allred said in the letter. "Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her," said Ms. Allred. "This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said. "The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon." Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during the incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One was removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing stud and Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it. The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have hidden dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past. "We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports." On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger terrorist organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself and one other. TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt additional screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search." "Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with body piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while ensuring a high level of security," Mr. White said. - - - Ahh, the Bush Administration. We're going to miss the high level of incompetence. Between your spending much of your day participating in rec.boats and finding exciting news articles like this to regurgitate, it's no wonder you need to go out in the woods and shoot tree stumps, to relieve the stress you are under. BTW: How do you hide a 3 pound pistol on your person. The obvious answer is that just blends in with your excess midriff blubber. What are you raving about, "SloMo"? Why would I need to hide a "3 pound pistol" on my person? Here's a question for you, SloMo...why do you post here? You obviously are not a boater. |
TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
"HK" wrote in message . .. wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Security flap arises over nipple ring removal Washington Times March 29, 2008 By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger to remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says more discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed piercings to be worn in the future. "TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation," said TSA spokesman Christopher White. "In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation," Mr. White said. "This could include a visual inspection without removal." Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to remove the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding Southwest Flight 35 from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas. Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA during a video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of Civil Rights and Liberties to investigate the incident. "After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to remove," Ms. Allred said in the letter. "Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her," said Ms. Allred. "This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said. "The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon." Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during the incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One was removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing stud and Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it. The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have hidden dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past. "We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports." On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger terrorist organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself and one other. TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt additional screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search." "Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with body piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while ensuring a high level of security," Mr. White said. - - - Ahh, the Bush Administration. We're going to miss the high level of incompetence. Between your spending much of your day participating in rec.boats and finding exciting news articles like this to regurgitate, it's no wonder you need to go out in the woods and shoot tree stumps, to relieve the stress you are under. BTW: How do you hide a 3 pound pistol on your person. The obvious answer is that just blends in with your excess midriff blubber. What are you raving about, "SloMo"? Why would I need to hide a "3 pound pistol" on my person? Here's a question for you, SloMo...why do you post here? You obviously are not a boater. SloMo has learned that you have a ccw permit in multiple states. Slo Mo has also learned that your carry weapon is a Sig X5 9MM. Slo Mo has learned that you do not carry in DC, but you do carry every where else that's legal. Slo Mo believes that you are carrying in states that restrict open carry. Slo MO believes that you are mentally ill and dangerous. Slo Mo thinks you should sell all of your expensive guns and use the proceeds to feed the hungry children. And That's all I am going to say about that. |
TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
On Mar 30, 11:48*am, HK wrote:
wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Security flap arises over nipple ring removal Washington Times March 29, 2008 By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger to remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says more discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed piercings to be worn in the future. "TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation," said TSA spokesman Christopher White. "In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation," Mr. White said. "This could include a visual inspection without removal.." Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to remove the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding Southwest Flight 35 from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas. Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA during a video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of Civil Rights and Liberties to investigate the incident. "After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to remove," Ms. Allred said in the letter. "Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her," said Ms. Allred. "This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said. "The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon." Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during the incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One was removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing stud and Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it. The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have hidden dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past. "We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports." On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger terrorist organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself and one other. TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt additional screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search." "Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with body piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while ensuring a high level of security," Mr. White said. * * * * * * *- - - Ahh, the Bush Administration. We're going to miss the high level of incompetence. Between your spending much of your day participating in rec.boats and finding exciting news articles like this to regurgitate, it's no wonder you need to go out in the woods and shoot tree stumps, to relieve the stress you are under. BTW: How do you hide *a 3 pound pistol on your person. The obvious answer is that just blends in with your excess midriff blubber. What are you raving about, "SloMo"? Why would I need to hide a "3 pound pistol" on my person? Here's a question for you, SloMo...why do you post here? You obviously are not a boater.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hmm, let's see. Harry posts an article here about the TSA and a nipple ring, then chides someone else for not posting boating related posts.......... Care to conjure up all of your posts for the last, say week, and see just what percentage is boating related? |
TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
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"HK" wrote in message . .. wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Security flap arises over nipple ring removal Washington Times March 29, 2008 By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger to remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says more discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed piercings to be worn in the future. "TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation," said TSA spokesman Christopher White. "In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation," Mr. White said. "This could include a visual inspection without removal." Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to remove the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding Southwest Flight 35 from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas. Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA during a video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of Civil Rights and Liberties to investigate the incident. "After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to remove," Ms. Allred said in the letter. "Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her," said Ms. Allred. "This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said. "The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon." Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during the incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One was removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing stud and Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it. The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have hidden dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past. "We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports." On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger terrorist organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself and one other. TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt additional screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search." "Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with body piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while ensuring a high level of security," Mr. White said. - - - Ahh, the Bush Administration. We're going to miss the high level of incompetence. Between your spending much of your day participating in rec.boats and finding exciting news articles like this to regurgitate, it's no wonder you need to go out in the woods and shoot tree stumps, to relieve the stress you are under. BTW: How do you hide a 3 pound pistol on your person. The obvious answer is that just blends in with your excess midriff blubber. What are you raving about, "SloMo"? Why would I need to hide a "3 pound pistol" on my person? Here's a question for you, SloMo...why do you post here? You obviously are not a boater. SloMo has learned that you have a ccw permit in multiple states. Slo Mo has also learned that your carry weapon is a Sig X5 9MM. Slo Mo has learned that you do not carry in DC, but you do carry every where else that's legal. Slo Mo believes that you are carrying in states that restrict open carry. Slo MO believes that you are mentally ill and dangerous. Slo Mo thinks you should sell all of your expensive guns and use the proceeds to feed the hungry children. And That's all I am going to say about that. My "carry weapon" is only a Sig X5 when I am carrying on the farmette here or out by the Shenandoah, and I when I do carry that piece, it sure as hell ain't concealed. D'oh. It's for protection against dangerous critters. We don't have any right around here, but there sure as hell are plenty of them out where we stomp around by the Shenandoah or on the adjacent mountain trails. The Sig earns its living as a target pistol, mainly, but it is such a pleasure to shoot, I carry it on those occasions I described. I rarely "carry concealed," although I do have the permits to do so. As for what SloMo believes, who really gives a ****, eh? I mean, its not as if anything you think matters to anyone. |
TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
On Mar 30, 12:20*pm, HK wrote:
wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Security flap arises over nipple ring removal Washington Times March 29, 2008 By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger to remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says more discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed piercings to be worn in the future. "TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation," said TSA spokesman Christopher White. "In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation," Mr. White said. "This could include a visual inspection without removal." Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to remove the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding Southwest Flight 35 from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas. Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA during a video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of Civil Rights and Liberties to investigate the incident. "After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to remove," Ms. Allred said in the letter. "Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her," said Ms. Allred. "This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said. "The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon." Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during the incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One was removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing stud and Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it.. The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have hidden dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past. "We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports." On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger terrorist organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself and one other. TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt additional screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search." "Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with body piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while ensuring a high level of security," Mr. White said. * * * * * * *- - - Ahh, the Bush Administration. We're going to miss the high level of incompetence. Between your spending much of your day participating in rec.boats and finding exciting news articles like this to regurgitate, it's no wonder you need to go out in the woods and shoot tree stumps, to relieve the stress you are under. BTW: How do you hide *a 3 pound pistol on your person. The obvious answer is that just blends in with your excess midriff blubber. What are you raving about, "SloMo"? Why would I need to hide a "3 pound pistol" on my person? Here's a question for you, SloMo...why do you post here? You obviously are not a boater. SloMo has learned that you have a ccw permit in multiple states. Slo Mo has also learned that your carry weapon is a Sig X5 9MM. Slo Mo has learned that you do not carry in DC, but you do carry every where else that's legal. Slo Mo believes that you are carrying in states that restrict open carry. Slo MO believes that you are mentally ill and dangerous. Slo Mo thinks you should sell all of your expensive guns and use the proceeds to feed the hungry children. And That's all I am going to say about that. My "carry weapon" is only a Sig X5 when I am carrying on the farmette here or out by the Shenandoah, and I when I do carry that piece, it sure as hell ain't concealed. *D'oh. It's for protection against dangerous critters. We don't have any right around here, but there sure as hell are plenty of them out where we stomp around by the Shenandoah or on the adjacent mountain trails. The Sig earns its living as a target pistol, mainly, but it is such a pleasure to shoot, I carry it on those occasions I described. I rarely "carry concealed," although I do have the permits to do so. As for what SloMo believes, who really gives a ****, eh? I mean, its not as if anything you think matters to anyone.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - If you're that much of a scared pussy, stay home. |
TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
On Mar 30, 2:30*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Mar 30, 11:48 am, HK wrote: wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Security flap arises over nipple ring removal Washington Times March 29, 2008 By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger to remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says more discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed piercings to be worn in the future. "TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation," said TSA spokesman Christopher White. "In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation," Mr. White said. "This could include a visual inspection without removal." Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to remove the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding Southwest Flight 35 from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas. Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA during a video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of Civil Rights and Liberties to investigate the incident. "After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to remove," Ms. Allred said in the letter. "Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her," said Ms. Allred. "This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said. "The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon." Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during the incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One was removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing stud and Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it. The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have hidden dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past. "We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports." On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger terrorist organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself and one other. TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt additional screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search." "Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with body piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while ensuring a high level of security," Mr. White said. - - - Ahh, the Bush Administration. We're going to miss the high level of incompetence. Between your spending much of your day participating in rec.boats and finding exciting news articles like this to regurgitate, it's no wonder you need to go out in the woods and shoot tree stumps, to relieve the stress you are under. BTW: How do you hide a 3 pound pistol on your person. The obvious answer is that just blends in with your excess midriff blubber. What are you raving about, "SloMo"? Why would I need to hide a "3 pound pistol" on my person? Here's a question for you, SloMo...why do you post here? You obviously are not a boater.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hmm, let's see. Harry posts an article here about the TSA and a nipple ring, then chides someone else for not posting boating related posts.......... Care to conjure up all of your posts for the last, say week, and see just what percentage is boating related? But nipples have caused a lot of trouble over the years. *Lots of young and older men have had major trouble because of female nipples.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I've had MY share of troubles because of them. |
TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:09:53 -0400, "
wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Security flap arises over nipple ring removal Washington Times March 29, 2008 By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger to remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says more discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed piercings to be worn in the future. "TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation," said TSA spokesman Christopher White. "In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation," Mr. White said. "This could include a visual inspection without removal." Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to remove the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding Southwest Flight 35 from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas. Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA during a video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of Civil Rights and Liberties to investigate the incident. "After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to remove," Ms. Allred said in the letter. "Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her," said Ms. Allred. "This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said. "The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon." Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during the incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One was removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing stud and Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it. The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have hidden dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past. "We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports." On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger terrorist organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself and one other. TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt additional screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search." "Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with body piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while ensuring a high level of security," Mr. White said. - - - Ahh, the Bush Administration. We're going to miss the high level of incompetence. Between your spending much of your day participating in rec.boats and finding exciting news articles like this to regurgitate, it's no wonder you need to go out in the woods and shoot tree stumps, to relieve the stress you are under. BTW: How do you hide a 3 pound pistol on your person. The obvious answer is that just blends in with your excess midriff blubber. What are you raving about, "SloMo"? Why would I need to hide a "3 pound pistol" on my person? Here's a question for you, SloMo...why do you post here? You obviously are not a boater. SloMo has learned that you have a ccw permit in multiple states. Slo Mo has also learned that your carry weapon is a Sig X5 9MM. Slo Mo has learned that you do not carry in DC, but you do carry every where else that's legal. Slo Mo believes that you are carrying in states that restrict open carry. Slo MO believes that you are mentally ill and dangerous. Slo Mo thinks you should sell all of your expensive guns and use the proceeds to feed the hungry children. And That's all I am going to say about that. And, as he brings it up, I'm wondering what part of Harry's nipple story was boating related. -- John *H* (Not the other one!) |
TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
wrote in message ... On Mar 30, 11:48 am, HK wrote: wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Security flap arises over nipple ring removal Washington Times March 29, 2008 By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger to remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says more discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed piercings to be worn in the future. "TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation," said TSA spokesman Christopher White. "In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation," Mr. White said. "This could include a visual inspection without removal." Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to remove the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding Southwest Flight 35 from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas. Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA during a video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of Civil Rights and Liberties to investigate the incident. "After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to remove," Ms. Allred said in the letter. "Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her," said Ms. Allred. "This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said. "The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon." Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during the incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One was removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing stud and Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it. The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have hidden dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past. "We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports." On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger terrorist organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself and one other. TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt additional screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search." "Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with body piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while ensuring a high level of security," Mr. White said. - - - Ahh, the Bush Administration. We're going to miss the high level of incompetence. Between your spending much of your day participating in rec.boats and finding exciting news articles like this to regurgitate, it's no wonder you need to go out in the woods and shoot tree stumps, to relieve the stress you are under. BTW: How do you hide a 3 pound pistol on your person. The obvious answer is that just blends in with your excess midriff blubber. What are you raving about, "SloMo"? Why would I need to hide a "3 pound pistol" on my person? Here's a question for you, SloMo...why do you post here? You obviously are not a boater.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hmm, let's see. Harry posts an article here about the TSA and a nipple ring, then chides someone else for not posting boating related posts.......... Care to conjure up all of your posts for the last, say week, and see just what percentage is boating related? But nipples have caused a lot of trouble over the years. Lots of young and older men have had major trouble because of female nipples. |
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Calif Bill wrote:
But nipples have caused a lot of trouble over the years. Lots of young and older men have had major trouble because of female nipples. Just last summer, while BOATING to a local beach, we encountered not one, but TWO pairs of nipples. I'd like to think maybe it was my charming personality that reeled em in, but I suspect it had more to do with our gas powered blender and my buddy offering up free drinks to anyone with their own cup. They each willingly swam over with their own cups. It was a fine boating day. Ahhhhhh, the memories of the sea... |
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DownTime wrote:
Calif Bill wrote: But nipples have caused a lot of trouble over the years. Lots of young and older men have had major trouble because of female nipples. Just last summer, while BOATING to a local beach, we encountered not one, but TWO pairs of nipples. I'd like to think maybe it was my charming personality that reeled em in, but I suspect it had more to do with our gas powered blender and my buddy offering up free drinks to anyone with their own cup. They each willingly swam over with their own cups. It was a fine boating day. Ahhhhhh, the memories of the sea... Free the sweater bunnies! |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Security flap arises over nipple ring removal Washington Times March 29, 2008 By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger to remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says more discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed piercings to be worn in the future. "TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation," said TSA spokesman Christopher White. "In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation," Mr. White said. "This could include a visual inspection without removal." Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to remove the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding Southwest Flight 35 from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas. Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA during a video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of Civil Rights and Liberties to investigate the incident. "After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to remove," Ms. Allred said in the letter. "Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her," said Ms. Allred. "This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said. "The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon." Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during the incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One was removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing stud and Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it. The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have hidden dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past. "We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports." On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger terrorist organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself and one other. TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt additional screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search." "Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with body piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while ensuring a high level of security," Mr. White said. I wonder if C4 comes in liquid form. Might get Pam Anderson to remove them..... Hahahaha.... Next thing you know you will have to get an enema before flying. |
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Canuck57 wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Security flap arises over nipple ring removal Washington Times March 29, 2008 By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger to remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says more discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed piercings to be worn in the future. "TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation," said TSA spokesman Christopher White. "In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation," Mr. White said. "This could include a visual inspection without removal." Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to remove the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding Southwest Flight 35 from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas. Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA during a video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of Civil Rights and Liberties to investigate the incident. "After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to remove," Ms. Allred said in the letter. "Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her," said Ms. Allred. "This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said. "The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon." Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during the incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One was removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing stud and Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it. The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have hidden dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past. "We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports." On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger terrorist organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself and one other. TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt additional screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search." "Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with body piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while ensuring a high level of security," Mr. White said. I wonder if C4 comes in liquid form. Might get Pam Anderson to remove them..... Hahahaha.... Next thing you know you will have to get an enema before flying. Not that *any* of the TSA nonsense makes commercial flight safer. What a crock "Homeland Security" is. |
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JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message . .. Canuck57 wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Security flap arises over nipple ring removal Washington Times March 29, 2008 By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger to remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says more discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed piercings to be worn in the future. "TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation," said TSA spokesman Christopher White. "In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation," Mr. White said. "This could include a visual inspection without removal." Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to remove the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding Southwest Flight 35 from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas. Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA during a video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of Civil Rights and Liberties to investigate the incident. "After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to remove," Ms. Allred said in the letter. "Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her," said Ms. Allred. "This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said. "The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon." Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during the incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One was removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing stud and Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it. The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have hidden dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past. "We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports." On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger terrorist organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself and one other. TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt additional screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search." "Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with body piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while ensuring a high level of security," Mr. White said. I wonder if C4 comes in liquid form. Might get Pam Anderson to remove them..... Hahahaha.... Next thing you know you will have to get an enema before flying. Not that *any* of the TSA nonsense makes commercial flight safer. What a crock "Homeland Security" is. No terrorist attacks on US soil or planes since 9-11. A crock? Eh? Geography. |
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On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 20:26:48 -0400, JimH wrote:
No terrorist attacks on US soil or planes since 9-11. A crock? Eh? Selective memory? The Beltway Sniper killed innocent people. That alone would make him a terrorist, but he also had clear ties to Islam. And, I guess, you were asleep during the anthrax attacks. If they weren't terrorist, what were they? |
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On Mar 30, 8:26*pm, "JimH" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message . .. Canuck57 wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Security flap arises over nipple ring removal Washington Times March 29, 2008 By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger to remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says more discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed piercings to be worn in the future. "TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation," said TSA spokesman Christopher White. "In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation," Mr. |
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On Mar 31, 11:07*am, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 05:23:08 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Mar 30, 8:26*pm, "JimH" wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... Canuck57 wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Security flap arises over nipple ring removal Washington Times March 29, 2008 By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger to remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says more discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed piercings to be worn in the future. "TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation," said TSA spokesman Christopher White. "In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation," Mr. White said. "This could include a visual inspection without removal.." Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to remove the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding Southwest Flight 35 from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas. Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA during a video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of Civil Rights and Liberties to investigate the incident. "After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to remove," Ms. Allred said in the letter. "Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her," said Ms. Allred. "This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said. "The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon." Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during the incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One was removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing stud and Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it. The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have hidden dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past. "We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports." On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger terrorist organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself and one other. TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt additional screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search." "Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with body piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while ensuring a high level of security," Mr. White said. I wonder if C4 comes in liquid form. *Might get Pam Anderson to remove them..... Hahahaha.... Next thing you know you will have to get an enema before flying. Not that *any* of the TSA nonsense makes commercial flight safer. What a crock "Homeland Security" is. No terrorist attacks on US soil or planes since 9-11. A crock? Eh?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Please show us what evidence you have that the lack of terrorist attacks on US soil is the direct result of the TSA or Homeland Security. I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any other security agencies have had no effect. The terrorists have just become a bunch of nice guys. This ABC story is all a lie.http://tinyurl.com/32jwx7 -- John *H* (Not the other one!)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Where did I EVER say such a thing? You shouldn't go around putting words in people's mouths. |
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On Mar 31, 11:07*am, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 05:23:08 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Mar 30, 8:26*pm, "JimH" wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... Canuck57 wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Security flap arises over nipple ring removal Washington Times March 29, 2008 By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger to remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says more discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed piercings to be worn in the future. "TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation," said TSA spokesman Christopher White. "In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation," Mr. White said. "This could include a visual inspection without removal.." Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to remove the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding Southwest Flight 35 from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas. Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA during a video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of Civil Rights and Liberties to investigate the incident. "After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to remove," Ms. Allred said in the letter. "Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her," said Ms. Allred. "This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said. "The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon." Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during the incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One was removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing stud and Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it. The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have hidden dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past. "We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports." On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger terrorist organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself and one other. TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt additional screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search." "Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with body piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while ensuring a high level of security," Mr. White said. I wonder if C4 comes in liquid form. *Might get Pam Anderson to remove them..... Hahahaha.... Next thing you know you will have to get an enema before flying. Not that *any* of the TSA nonsense makes commercial flight safer. What a crock "Homeland Security" is. No terrorist attacks on US soil or planes since 9-11. A crock? Eh?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Please show us what evidence you have that the lack of terrorist attacks on US soil is the direct result of the TSA or Homeland Security. I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any other security agencies have had no effect. The terrorists have just become a bunch of nice guys. This ABC story is all a lie.http://tinyurl.com/32jwx7 -- John *H* (Not the other one!)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh, and the article? Speculative at best. |
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John H. wrote:
I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any other security agencies have had no effect. Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country. |
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"HK" wrote in message ... John H. wrote: I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any other security agencies have had no effect. Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country. It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all* attacks. |
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D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... John H. wrote: I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any other security agencies have had no effect. Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country. It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all* attacks. The only reason al Qaeda hasn't mounted a large-scale attack is because it doesn't want to. Al-Qaeda grooming militants who 'look western': CIA chief 8 hours ago WASHINGTON (AFP) — The head of the main US spy agency has warned that Al-Qaeda is training operatives who "look western" and could enter the United States undetected to conduct terrorist attacks. Central Intelligence Agency Director General Michael Hayden also said the terror network, which over the past 18 months has established a "safe haven" in Pakistan's tribal areas along the Afghanistan border, has shed its operational reliance on mastermind Osama bin Laden. "They are bringing operatives into that region for training -- operatives that, a phrase I would use, wouldn't attract your attention if they were going through the customs line at Dulles (airport near Washington DC) with you," Hayden told NBC television Sunday. The new recruits "look western" and "would be able to come into this country ... without attracting the kind of attention that others might," he said. Hayden pointed to improved intelligence techniques in the federally administered tribal areas, due to "good cooperation from a variety of allies" in Pakistan's tribal regions, for the information on the Al-Qaeda recruits. But much of the improvement was merely regaining ground that was lost through what Hayden described as an "absolutely disastrous" hands-off policy in the region by Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf in 2006 that led to Al-Qaeda's increased organizational ability there. "He was, in fact, pulling forces and the writ of the Pakistani government back from the tribal region, and Al-Qaeda and the Taliban were having more and more free reign there." *In an annual threat assessment released in February, US intelligence reported it had detected an influx of new western recruits to Al-Qaeda safe havens in Pakistan's federally administered tribal areas since 2006. "Al-Qaeda is improving the last key aspect of its ability to attack the US -- the identification, training, and positioning of operatives for an attack in the homeland," the report said.* In presenting the report to Congress, US intelligence chief Mike McConnell also said that plots uncovered in New Jersey and Illinois this year "highlights the diverse threat posed by homeland-based radical Muslims inspired by extremist ideology." Hayden also stressed that while he was confident Al-Qaeda mastermind Osama bin Laden was still hiding out near the Afghanistan-Pakistan border, the Saudi-born fighter no longer has operational control over the terror network. This now lies with Egyptian militants, he argued, although he said bin Laden remains an "iconic figure," and the CIA is making "every effort to kill or capture" him along with his Al-Qaeda lieutenants. "Let me use (the term) iconic figure. His presence ... gives a certain punch, a certain image, to the global movement," Hayden said. "But he's not operationally involved. An awful lot of the operational force of Al-Qaeda -- the Arabic name is ... often finished by the country they are from -- an awful lot of them are al-Masris, which means 'the Egyptians.'" Al-Qaeda's number two is Ayman Al-Zawahiri, an Egyptian militant who the US director of national intelligence Michael McConnell last September called "the real intellectual leader of Al-Qaeda." Bin Laden has claimed responsibility for the September 11, 2001, attacks on the United States, which killed nearly 3,000 people and prompted the US-led invasion of Afghanistan. |
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"D.Duck" wrote in message ... "HK" wrote in message ... John H. wrote: I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any other security agencies have had no effect. Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country. It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all* attacks. True. With some regret I finally put Harry in my Bozo bin along with the sneaker salesman from China. After 8 years of his constant negativity about anything and everything about our country and it's government, I had enough. Healthy debate is fine, but daily doses of anti-everything spin gets old. If things continue as they are currently heading and the Dems lose this election (that should have been theirs for the taking), Harry is going to have a really bad day. He can complain to the sneaker guy. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message ... "HK" wrote in message ... John H. wrote: I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any other security agencies have had no effect. Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country. It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all* attacks. True. With some regret I finally put Harry in my Bozo bin along with the sneaker salesman from China. After 8 years of his constant negativity about anything and everything about our country and it's government, I had enough. Healthy debate is fine, but daily doses of anti-everything spin gets old. If things continue as they are currently heading and the Dems lose this election (that should have been theirs for the taking), Harry is going to have a really bad day. He can complain to the sneaker guy. Eisboch It's not this country that has screwed up royally, it is the executive branch of our government, and its enablers in Congress. Some 70% of Americans believe the Bush Administration has been taking this country in the wrong direction. If we have honest elections this fall, we will have a Democratic president in January and the eight year national nightmare will begin to subside. I realize the majority of posters in this newsgroup are hardcore Republicans. I'll be sure to feel your pain the next eight years. :) |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "D.Duck" wrote in message ... "HK" wrote in message ... John H. wrote: I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any other security agencies have had no effect. Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country. It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all* attacks. True. With some regret I finally put Harry in my Bozo bin along with the sneaker salesman from China. After 8 years of his constant negativity about anything and everything about our country and it's government, I had enough. Healthy debate is fine, but daily doses of anti-everything spin gets old. If things continue as they are currently heading and the Dems lose this election (that should have been theirs for the taking), Harry is going to have a really bad day. He can complain to the sneaker guy. Eisboch What keywords did you use to get rid of sneaker guy? Harry's been in and out of my bozo bin. I take him out when it gets slow here. He should probably be left in. But he's fun to play with occasionally. |
TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:03:59 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... John H. wrote: I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any other security agencies have had no effect. Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country. It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all* attacks. Whoa. There weren't any terrorist attacks on Americans during the last Democrat administration! :) How many Americans were killed on U.S. soil during foreign terrorist attacks during the last *Democratic* administration, bozo? |
TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
Jim wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "D.Duck" wrote in message ... "HK" wrote in message ... John H. wrote: I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any other security agencies have had no effect. Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country. It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all* attacks. True. With some regret I finally put Harry in my Bozo bin along with the sneaker salesman from China. After 8 years of his constant negativity about anything and everything about our country and it's government, I had enough. Healthy debate is fine, but daily doses of anti-everything spin gets old. If things continue as they are currently heading and the Dems lose this election (that should have been theirs for the taking), Harry is going to have a really bad day. He can complain to the sneaker guy. Eisboch What keywords did you use to get rid of sneaker guy? Harry's been in and out of my bozo bin. I take him out when it gets slow here. He should probably be left in. But he's fun to play with occasionally. Probably "Florida Jim." That usually puts the trash out on the curb. |
TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 07:25:20 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 31, 11:07*am, John H. wrote: On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 05:23:08 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Mar 30, 8:26*pm, "JimH" wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... Canuck57 wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Security flap arises over nipple ring removal Washington Times March 29, 2008 By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger to remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says more discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed piercings to be worn in the future. "TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation," said TSA spokesman Christopher White. "In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation," Mr. White said. "This could include a visual inspection without removal." Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to remove the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding Southwest Flight 35 from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas. Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA during a video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of Civil Rights and Liberties to investigate the incident. "After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to remove," Ms. Allred said in the letter. "Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her," said Ms. Allred. "This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said. "The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon." Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during the incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One was removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing stud and Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it. The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have hidden dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past. "We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports." On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger terrorist organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself and one other. TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt additional screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search." "Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with body piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while ensuring a high level of security," Mr. White said. I wonder if C4 comes in liquid form. *Might get Pam Anderson to remove them..... Hahahaha.... Next thing you know you will have to get an enema before flying. Not that *any* of the TSA nonsense makes commercial flight safer. What a crock "Homeland Security" is. No terrorist attacks on US soil or planes since 9-11. A crock? Eh?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Please show us what evidence you have that the lack of terrorist attacks on US soil is the direct result of the TSA or Homeland Security. I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any other security agencies have had no effect. The terrorists have just become a bunch of nice guys. This ABC story is all a lie.http://tinyurl.com/32jwx7 -- John *H* (Not the other one!)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Where did I EVER say such a thing? You shouldn't go around putting words in people's mouths. I put no words in your mouth. I simply said you were right. How could you possibly disagree with that? If you want to be wrong, that's OK too. I'm easy to get along with. -- John *H* (Not the other one!) |
TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:03:59 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... John H. wrote: I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any other security agencies have had no effect. Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country. It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all* attacks. Whoa. There weren't any terrorist attacks on Americans during the last Democrat administration! :) -- John *H* (Not the other one!) |
TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
On Mar 31, 12:56*pm, HK wrote:
Jim wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message m... "D.Duck" wrote in message ... "HK" wrote in message ... John H. wrote: I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any other security agencies have had no effect. Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country.. It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all* attacks. True. With some regret I finally put Harry in my Bozo bin along with the sneaker salesman from China. After 8 years of his constant negativity about anything and everything about our country and it's government, I had enough. *Healthy debate is fine, but daily doses of anti-everything spin gets old. If things continue as they are currently heading and the Dems lose this election (that should have been theirs for the taking), Harry is going to have a really bad day. *He can complain to the sneaker guy. Eisboch What keywords did you use to get rid of sneaker guy? Harry's been in and out of my bozo bin. I take him out when it gets slow here. He should probably be left in. But he's fun to play with occasionally. Probably "Florida Jim." That usually puts the trash out on the curb.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Uh, Harry, Eisboch was talking about YOU in his bozo bin. One of the nicest guys here now has had enough of you. |
TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:49:03 -0500, John H.
wrote: On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:03:59 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... John H. wrote: I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any other security agencies have had no effect. Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country. It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all* attacks. Whoa. There weren't any terrorist attacks on Americans during the last Democrat administration! :) Um...yes there were. Including two that they committed themselves. |
TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:05:21 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:49:03 -0500, John H. wrote: On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:03:59 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... John H. wrote: I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any other security agencies have had no effect. Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country. It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all* attacks. Whoa. There weren't any terrorist attacks on Americans during the last Democrat administration! :) Um...yes there were. Including two that they committed themselves. Oh my gosh! I thought it was only the Bush administration. My bad! -- John *H* (Not the other one!) |
TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
"John H." wrote in message ... On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:05:21 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:49:03 -0500, John H. wrote: On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:03:59 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... John H. wrote: I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any other security agencies have had no effect. Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country. It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all* attacks. Whoa. There weren't any terrorist attacks on Americans during the last Democrat administration! :) Um...yes there were. Including two that they committed themselves. Oh my gosh! I thought it was only the Bush administration. My bad! -- John *H* (Not the other one!) You need to stop listening to left wing talk radio and HRC.;-= |
TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:28:10 -0400, "Jim" wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:05:21 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:49:03 -0500, John H. wrote: On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:03:59 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... John H. wrote: I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any other security agencies have had no effect. Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country. It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all* attacks. Whoa. There weren't any terrorist attacks on Americans during the last Democrat administration! :) Um...yes there were. Including two that they committed themselves. Oh my gosh! I thought it was only the Bush administration. My bad! -- John *H* (Not the other one!) You need to stop listening to left wing talk radio and HRC.;-= I don't know, Al Franken really turns me on. Splashed your boat yet? |
TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
Jim wrote:
"John H." wrote in message ... On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:05:21 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:49:03 -0500, John H. wrote: On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:03:59 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... John H. wrote: I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any other security agencies have had no effect. Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country. It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all* attacks. Whoa. There weren't any terrorist attacks on Americans during the last Democrat administration! :) Um...yes there were. Including two that they committed themselves. Oh my gosh! I thought it was only the Bush administration. My bad! -- John *H* (Not the other one!) You need to stop listening to left wing talk radio and HRC.;-= Been boating yet? |
TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:28:10 -0400, "Jim" wrote:
"John H." wrote in message .. . On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:05:21 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:49:03 -0500, John H. wrote: On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:03:59 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... John H. wrote: I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any other security agencies have had no effect. Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country. It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all* attacks. Whoa. There weren't any terrorist attacks on Americans during the last Democrat administration! :) Um...yes there were. Including two that they committed themselves. Oh my gosh! I thought it was only the Bush administration. My bad! -- John *H* (Not the other one!) You need to stop listening to left wing talk radio and HRC.;-= I don't know, Al Franken really turns me on. -- John *H* (Not the other one!) |
TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
On Mar 31, 6:19*pm, HK wrote:
John H. wrote: On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:28:10 -0400, "Jim" wrote: "John H." wrote in message . .. On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:05:21 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:49:03 -0500, John H. wrote: On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:03:59 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... John H. wrote: I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any other security agencies have had no effect. Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country.. It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all* attacks. Whoa. There weren't any terrorist attacks on Americans during the last Democrat administration! *:) Um...yes there were. Including two that they committed themselves. Oh my gosh! I thought it was only the Bush administration. My bad! -- John *H* (Not the other one!) You need to stop listening to left wing talk radio and HRC.;-= I don't know, Al Franken really turns me on. Splashed your boat yet?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - This is cute, now Harry is going to be a boating only poster!!!!!! And gee, who STARTED this thread??? |
TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
On Mar 30, 7:35*am, HK wrote:
Security flap arises over nipple ring removal Washington Times I'll post this because I'm sure it will apply to boats as well. The TSA and US Customs is currently proposing new rules for traveling overseas by private vehicles (airplanes, and probably boats). They are asking that you provide them a list of passengers 1 week before you depart and then you stop at US Customs as your last stop in the US for them to give final approval of the passengers leaving the US. It will be first first time in US history that Americans have had to ask permission to leave the US. I'm sure they will examine the examples of the Soviet Union on how to do such. -Robert |
TSA Forces Nipple Ring Removal
On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:32:05 -0700 (PDT), "Robert M. Gary"
wrote: On Mar 30, 7:35*am, HK wrote: Security flap arises over nipple ring removal Washington Times I'll post this because I'm sure it will apply to boats as well. The TSA and US Customs is currently proposing new rules for traveling overseas by private vehicles (airplanes, and probably boats). They are asking that you provide them a list of passengers 1 week before you depart and then you stop at US Customs as your last stop in the US for them to give final approval of the passengers leaving the US. It will be first first time in US history that Americans have had to ask permission to leave the US. I'm sure they will examine the examples of the Soviet Union on how to do such. -Robert It would be nice if they asked all those coming north at the Mexican border for a passport. -- John *H* (Not the other one!) |
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