Yo, Harry ....
 

"Charlie" wrote in message
...
jps wrote:


AFAIC, she's McCain lite. Why not let the Republicans drive us
another four years into the hole so we can have a real Democrat.

No worries, mate. Even if McCain wins, you'll be telling us Clinton or
Obama won.

-- Charlie

We have not had a real Democrat for at least 45 years.

Yo, Harry ....
 

DK wrote:
John wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the
news this morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues
to get caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with
the nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch


Hope I'm wrong, but since the campaigning started, I have been saying
that if either Hilary or Obama got the nomination, the democrats would
lose. There are just way too many joe-six-packs out there that are
also closet bigots. Even though some of them may pay lip service to
voting for a woman or the best candidate, when they actually get in
the booth, they just will not vote for any woman or darkie.......




WTF is a "darkie", John?

John?

Yo, Harry ....
 

On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:49:10 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:11:54 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Found this on the CS owners site
http://groups.msn.com/CarolinaSkiffO...nw?albumlist=2
Looks like the only actual CS pictured is number 3, but you get the
idea. Having said that, to me the CS is basically a fishing boat, but
there are possibilities for setting it up for overnighters due to it's
size and openness.

The wife and I have taken the tent, thermarests, sleeping bags, and a small
bbq grill and camped from a 15' Whaler.

Where there's a will there's a way.
And a Coleman stove can fry up bacon and eggs good too.

You'll have a ball!

I'm thinking that in Florida the heat, no-seeums and sand fleas are
going to have some say in that. But I'll do my part.

But, I do like the #3 bow enclosure.

I looked at it again, and the bow rail tells me it's probably not a
CS. But I've seen all kinds of nice contraptions set up with some
sunbrella and tubing. It's not done cheaply, though. But a good
number of cruisers have a Sail-Rite sewing machine and make
some handy canvas, saving money.
This got me to thinking how people choose their boat, and what goes
into that. I'm not a "spender" unless that what it takes to get to my
goal.
I like the CS, knowing it's basically a flat water boat, and it's
Florida flat water fishing that I like to do.
Very roomy boat, and though they can go fast, they can cruise at a
high economy.
Not a choice for others, but it might suit me.
What made you choose the boat you did, John?

--Vic

Yo, Harry ....
 

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:44:07 -0400, DK wrote:

DK wrote:
John wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the
news this morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues
to get caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with
the nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch

Hope I'm wrong, but since the campaigning started, I have been saying
that if either Hilary or Obama got the nomination, the democrats would
lose. There are just way too many joe-six-packs out there that are
also closet bigots. Even though some of them may pay lip service to
voting for a woman or the best candidate, when they actually get in
the booth, they just will not vote for any woman or darkie.......



WTF is a "darkie", John?
John?

Not this John, Harry's 'John'.


You're the one that doesn't like people of color.

Yo, Harry ....
 

On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:44:07 -0400, DK wrote:

DK wrote:
John wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the
news this morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues
to get caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with
the nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch


Hope I'm wrong, but since the campaigning started, I have been saying
that if either Hilary or Obama got the nomination, the democrats would
lose. There are just way too many joe-six-packs out there that are
also closet bigots. Even though some of them may pay lip service to
voting for a woman or the best candidate, when they actually get in
the booth, they just will not vote for any woman or darkie.......




WTF is a "darkie", John?

John?

Not this John, Harry's 'John'.
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)

Yo, Harry ....
 

On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 07:14:23 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:49:10 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:11:54 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Found this on the CS owners site
http://groups.msn.com/CarolinaSkiffO...nw?albumlist=2
Looks like the only actual CS pictured is number 3, but you get the
idea. Having said that, to me the CS is basically a fishing boat, but
there are possibilities for setting it up for overnighters due to it's
size and openness.

The wife and I have taken the tent, thermarests, sleeping bags, and a small
bbq grill and camped from a 15' Whaler.

Where there's a will there's a way.
And a Coleman stove can fry up bacon and eggs good too.

You'll have a ball!

I'm thinking that in Florida the heat, no-seeums and sand fleas are
going to have some say in that. But I'll do my part.

But, I do like the #3 bow enclosure.

I looked at it again, and the bow rail tells me it's probably not a
CS. But I've seen all kinds of nice contraptions set up with some
sunbrella and tubing. It's not done cheaply, though. But a good
number of cruisers have a Sail-Rite sewing machine and make
some handy canvas, saving money.
This got me to thinking how people choose their boat, and what goes
into that. I'm not a "spender" unless that what it takes to get to my
goal.
I like the CS, knowing it's basically a flat water boat, and it's
Florida flat water fishing that I like to do.
Very roomy boat, and though they can go fast, they can cruise at a
high economy.
Not a choice for others, but it might suit me.
What made you choose the boat you did, John?

--Vic

I wanted something smaller than the Proline 21'er, which was heavy enough
to require tandem axles and brakes. The one I've got now is 18', and light
enough to pop on and pop off the truck. The trailer doesn't require brakes,
which are a big headache with frequent salt water baths.

I wanted something for fishing, which is why I like the center console, but
had enough amenities to keep the wife happy, like a bimini and lots of
seating and storage. It's got plenty of seating, so I can take a load of
grandkids out also. I got the largest engine possible, the 150hp, for
pulling tubes or skis.

Finally, the dealer for Key West was the marina where the Proline was
stored. It was 12 years old, and I was wanting to get rid of it. My kids
didn't want it, and the dealer offered me a good trade in value for the Key
West, so I bit!

I've not had the new boat in the water yet. It came in last November, and I
had it shrink wrapped and stored in the trailer yard. The dealer is doing
the dealer prep on it this coming week, and I'll go down and test ride it
the first part of April.

Hopefully, I'll like it!
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)

Yo, Harry ....
 

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 08:43:38 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 07:14:23 -0600, Vic Smith

What made you choose the boat you did, John?

I wanted something smaller than the Proline 21'er, which was heavy enough
to require tandem axles and brakes. The one I've got now is 18', and light
enough to pop on and pop off the truck. The trailer doesn't require
brakes,
which are a big headache with frequent salt water baths.

I wanted something for fishing, which is why I like the center console,
but
had enough amenities to keep the wife happy, like a bimini and lots of
seating and storage. It's got plenty of seating, so I can take a load of
grandkids out also. I got the largest engine possible, the 150hp, for
pulling tubes or skis.

Finally, the dealer for Key West was the marina where the Proline was
stored. It was 12 years old, and I was wanting to get rid of it. My kids
didn't want it, and the dealer offered me a good trade in value for the
Key
West, so I bit!

I've not had the new boat in the water yet. It came in last November, and
I
had it shrink wrapped and stored in the trailer yard. The dealer is doing
the dealer prep on it this coming week, and I'll go down and test ride it
the first part of April.

Hopefully, I'll like it!

I bet you will.
Since I'm new to this, my questions might be stupid, but I never let
that stop me.
Did you take a "test ride" in what you're getting, same engine and
all?
Besides center console, what kind of thinking went into suitability
for fishing - like trolling and landing fish?
Same for seaworthiness.
Since I'm real careful when I put down the bucks, I might start making
a list to go by before I pull the trigger, instead of listening to my
wife say something like "This is pretty, let's get it this one."

--Vic
You know that the wife has the last word. And it isn't always "yes dear"

Yo, Harry ....
 

On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 08:43:38 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 07:14:23 -0600, Vic Smith

What made you choose the boat you did, John?

I wanted something smaller than the Proline 21'er, which was heavy enough
to require tandem axles and brakes. The one I've got now is 18', and light
enough to pop on and pop off the truck. The trailer doesn't require brakes,
which are a big headache with frequent salt water baths.

I wanted something for fishing, which is why I like the center console, but
had enough amenities to keep the wife happy, like a bimini and lots of
seating and storage. It's got plenty of seating, so I can take a load of
grandkids out also. I got the largest engine possible, the 150hp, for
pulling tubes or skis.

Finally, the dealer for Key West was the marina where the Proline was
stored. It was 12 years old, and I was wanting to get rid of it. My kids
didn't want it, and the dealer offered me a good trade in value for the Key
West, so I bit!

I've not had the new boat in the water yet. It came in last November, and I
had it shrink wrapped and stored in the trailer yard. The dealer is doing
the dealer prep on it this coming week, and I'll go down and test ride it
the first part of April.

Hopefully, I'll like it!

I bet you will.
Since I'm new to this, my questions might be stupid, but I never let
that stop me.
Did you take a "test ride" in what you're getting, same engine and
all?
Besides center console, what kind of thinking went into suitability
for fishing - like trolling and landing fish?
Same for seaworthiness.
Since I'm real careful when I put down the bucks, I might start making
a list to go by before I pull the trigger, instead of listening to my
wife say something like "This is pretty, let's get it this one."

--Vic

Yo, Harry ....
 

On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 08:27:34 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 08:43:38 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 07:14:23 -0600, Vic Smith

What made you choose the boat you did, John?

I wanted something smaller than the Proline 21'er, which was heavy enough
to require tandem axles and brakes. The one I've got now is 18', and light
enough to pop on and pop off the truck. The trailer doesn't require brakes,
which are a big headache with frequent salt water baths.

I wanted something for fishing, which is why I like the center console, but
had enough amenities to keep the wife happy, like a bimini and lots of
seating and storage. It's got plenty of seating, so I can take a load of
grandkids out also. I got the largest engine possible, the 150hp, for
pulling tubes or skis.

Finally, the dealer for Key West was the marina where the Proline was
stored. It was 12 years old, and I was wanting to get rid of it. My kids
didn't want it, and the dealer offered me a good trade in value for the Key
West, so I bit!

I've not had the new boat in the water yet. It came in last November, and I
had it shrink wrapped and stored in the trailer yard. The dealer is doing
the dealer prep on it this coming week, and I'll go down and test ride it
the first part of April.

Hopefully, I'll like it!

I bet you will.
Since I'm new to this, my questions might be stupid, but I never let
that stop me.
Did you take a "test ride" in what you're getting, same engine and
all?

No. The dealer didn't have any of this model to test ride. I talked to a
few owners at the marina, who loved their boats.
Besides center console, what kind of thinking went into suitability
for fishing - like trolling and landing fish?

It has space for up to eight trolling rods, two on each side and four along
the transom (if the two jumper seats are removed). The slots for the jumper
seats are the same size as rod holders. The boat seems much more suitable
for trolling than the Proline, which had an I/O engine. Here's the site
which shows my boat. Go to page 10 and you'll see what I mean about the
jumper seats. http://tinyurl.com/2g9o38

I like the storage on the boat.

Same for seaworthiness.

Again, I based much of my decision on conversations. But, I wouldn't be
worried about taking it out in the Chesapeake. It may not be very
comfortable in three footers, but neither was the Proline 21'er.

Since I'm real careful when I put down the bucks, I might start making
a list to go by before I pull the trigger, instead of listening to my
wife say something like "This is pretty, let's get it this one."

--Vic

Feel free to ask questions!

--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)

Yo, Harry ....
 

On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 08:27:34 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 08:43:38 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 07:14:23 -0600, Vic Smith

What made you choose the boat you did, John?

I wanted something smaller than the Proline 21'er, which was heavy enough
to require tandem axles and brakes. The one I've got now is 18', and light
enough to pop on and pop off the truck. The trailer doesn't require brakes,
which are a big headache with frequent salt water baths.

I wanted something for fishing, which is why I like the center console, but
had enough amenities to keep the wife happy, like a bimini and lots of
seating and storage. It's got plenty of seating, so I can take a load of
grandkids out also. I got the largest engine possible, the 150hp, for
pulling tubes or skis.

Finally, the dealer for Key West was the marina where the Proline was
stored. It was 12 years old, and I was wanting to get rid of it. My kids
didn't want it, and the dealer offered me a good trade in value for the Key
West, so I bit!

I've not had the new boat in the water yet. It came in last November, and I
had it shrink wrapped and stored in the trailer yard. The dealer is doing
the dealer prep on it this coming week, and I'll go down and test ride it
the first part of April.

Hopefully, I'll like it!

I bet you will.
Since I'm new to this, my questions might be stupid, but I never let
that stop me.
Did you take a "test ride" in what you're getting, same engine and
all?
Besides center console, what kind of thinking went into suitability
for fishing - like trolling and landing fish?
Same for seaworthiness.
Since I'm real careful when I put down the bucks, I might start making
a list to go by before I pull the trigger, instead of listening to my
wife say something like "This is pretty, let's get it this one."

--Vic

Oh, by the way, the wife *did* think it was cute, as long as I got the
bimini instead of the t-top.
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)