On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:01:11 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Mar 12, 8:59*pm, hk wrote:
BAR wrote:

Our lack of immigration controls lets other countries dump their
undesirables on us.

Your boy Bush did nothing to control immigration, and won't. His
corporate sponsors won't let him.- Hide quoted text -

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harry, no pres, had done anything about immigration control all the
way back to FDR and before.

Nope. INS raids and deportations were common in Chicago factories in
the 60's and 70's. If a cop figured you were illegal, he held you for
the feds and they put you on a plane out of here.
Besides that, you waited in line to legally emigrate, had to have a
sponsor who had an address and some money in the bank.
I know, because I sponsored my wife's family, who came from Poland.
She came much earlier, being sponsored by an uncle who himself got
here through an arduous process after working for American forces in
Germany right after WWII.
It took us years to get the wife's family here.
They were industrious and did quite well, never on the dole or street
corner selling drugs.
Don't know exactly when INS fell apart, but Reagan granted amnesty to
some millions of illegals, and it's been downhill from there.
The info is probably on the net, but I ain't going.

really now, isn't blaming Bush about immigration sort of a lame
arguement?

Nope. Unless he hasn't been Commander-In-Chief for the last seven
years and done virtually nothing but propose amnesty.
Lou Dobbs and some smart Republicans kicked his ass for that.
Clinton was just as bad, but that's no excuse for Bush.
How's the illegal situation down there, Tim?
Can you do gigs at any cantinas, if you wear a poncho?
If you get a chance, watch a movie called Delta Farce.
Some hilarious scenes.

--Vic

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:10:31 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Mar 13, 1:02*am, Vic Smith wrote:

If you get a chance, watch a movie called Delta Farce.
Some hilarious scenes.


Haven't seen Delta Force. I'll have to look for it.

No, Delta Farce. Delta Force is a Chuck Norris movie.
Chuck is never funny unless he 's teamed with Huckabee and
Huckabee does the talking.
Not saying Delta Farce will be your favorite movie, but you'll get a
kick out it.

--Vic

Tim wrote:
On Mar 12, 8:59 pm, hk wrote:


harry, no pres, had done anything about immigration control all the
way back to FDR and before.

really now, isn't blaming Bush about immigration sort of a lame
arguement?


Tim, that's not true. The first big illegal immigrant amnesty I recall
was perpetrated by Ronnie Raygun.

As for blaming Bush, well, he *has* ben *the man* for the past seven+
years, and he's done nothing about it, along with the many other sores
tasking this country about which he has done nothing.

HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Mar 12, 8:59 pm, hk wrote:


harry, no pres, had done anything about immigration control all the
way back to FDR and before.

really now, isn't blaming Bush about immigration sort of a lame
arguement?


Tim, that's not true. The first big illegal immigrant amnesty I recall
was perpetrated by Ronnie Raygun.

As for blaming Bush, well, he *has* ben *the man* for the past seven+
years, and he's done nothing about it, along with the many other sores
tasking this country about which he has done nothing.

He was just following the example set by his immediate predecessor,
Clinton. Clinton the accomplish nothing president.

On Mar 13, 7:18*am, BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Mar 12, 8:59 pm, hk wrote:

harry, no pres, had done anything about immigration control all the
way back to FDR and before.

really now, isn't blaming Bush about immigration sort of a lame
arguement?

Tim, that's not true. The first big illegal immigrant amnesty I recall
was perpetrated by Ronnie Raygun.

As for blaming Bush, well, he *has* ben *the man* for the past seven+
years, and he's done nothing about it, along with the many other sores
tasking this country about which he has done nothing.

He was just following the example set by his immediate predecessor,
Clinton. Clinton the accomplish nothing president.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Oh sure he did, Billary sold our missle and nuke tech to the Chinese
military for 3million in late illegal campaign contributions which put
him over the top the second time around.. Of course after saturating
the west coast with the money and winning the election, they "noticed"
the problem and returned the money OOOOPs..

wrote:
On Mar 13, 7:18 am, BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Mar 12, 8:59 pm, hk wrote:
harry, no pres, had done anything about immigration control all the
way back to FDR and before.
really now, isn't blaming Bush about immigration sort of a lame
arguement?
Tim, that's not true. The first big illegal immigrant amnesty I recall
was perpetrated by Ronnie Raygun.
As for blaming Bush, well, he *has* ben *the man* for the past seven+
years, and he's done nothing about it, along with the many other sores
tasking this country about which he has done nothing.
He was just following the example set by his immediate predecessor,
Clinton. Clinton the accomplish nothing president.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Oh sure he did, Billary sold our missle and nuke tech to the Chinese
military for 3million in late illegal campaign contributions which put
him over the top the second time around.. Of course after saturating
the west coast with the money and winning the election, they "noticed"
the problem and returned the money OOOOPs..


Back to the real world: Clinton one the second time around because he
was popular and because his opponent was a lousy presidential candidate
and ran a half-assed campaign.

On Mar 13, 8:06*am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 7:18 am, BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Mar 12, 8:59 pm, hk wrote:
harry, no pres, had done anything about immigration control all the
way back to FDR and before.
really now, isn't blaming Bush about immigration sort of a lame
arguement?
Tim, that's not true. The first big illegal immigrant amnesty I recall
was perpetrated by Ronnie Raygun.
As for blaming Bush, well, he *has* ben *the man* for the past seven+
years, and he's done nothing about it, along with the many other sores
tasking this country about which he has done nothing.
He was just following the example set by his immediate predecessor,
Clinton. Clinton the accomplish nothing president.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Oh sure he did, Billary sold our missle and nuke tech to the Chinese
military for 3million in late illegal campaign contributions which put
him over the top the second time around.. Of course after saturating
the west coast with the money and winning the election, they "noticed"
the problem and returned the money OOOOPs..

Back to the real world: Clinton one the second time around because he
was popular and because his opponent was a lousy presidential candidate
and ran a half-assed campaign.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And they flooded the commercial market with 3 million dollars from the
Chinese Military, and that is a known fact.. period.

wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:06 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 7:18 am, BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Mar 12, 8:59 pm, hk wrote:
harry, no pres, had done anything about immigration control all the
way back to FDR and before.
really now, isn't blaming Bush about immigration sort of a lame
arguement?
Tim, that's not true. The first big illegal immigrant amnesty I recall
was perpetrated by Ronnie Raygun.
As for blaming Bush, well, he *has* ben *the man* for the past seven+
years, and he's done nothing about it, along with the many other sores
tasking this country about which he has done nothing.
He was just following the example set by his immediate predecessor,
Clinton. Clinton the accomplish nothing president.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Oh sure he did, Billary sold our missle and nuke tech to the Chinese
military for 3million in late illegal campaign contributions which put
him over the top the second time around.. Of course after saturating
the west coast with the money and winning the election, they "noticed"
the problem and returned the money OOOOPs..
Back to the real world: Clinton one the second time around because he
was popular and because his opponent was a lousy presidential candidate
and ran a half-assed campaign.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And they flooded the commercial market with 3 million dollars from the
Chinese Military, and that is a known fact.. period.


"A known fact."

snerk

wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:06 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 7:18 am, BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Mar 12, 8:59 pm, hk wrote:
harry, no pres, had done anything about immigration control all the
way back to FDR and before.
really now, isn't blaming Bush about immigration sort of a lame
arguement?
Tim, that's not true. The first big illegal immigrant amnesty I recall
was perpetrated by Ronnie Raygun.
As for blaming Bush, well, he *has* ben *the man* for the past seven+
years, and he's done nothing about it, along with the many other sores
tasking this country about which he has done nothing.
He was just following the example set by his immediate predecessor,
Clinton. Clinton the accomplish nothing president.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Oh sure he did, Billary sold our missle and nuke tech to the Chinese
military for 3million in late illegal campaign contributions which put
him over the top the second time around.. Of course after saturating
the west coast with the money and winning the election, they "noticed"
the problem and returned the money OOOOPs..
Back to the real world: Clinton one the second time around because he
was popular and because his opponent was a lousy presidential candidate
and ran a half-assed campaign.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And they flooded the commercial market with 3 million dollars from the
Chinese Military, and that is a known fact.. period.


You claimed that money from illegal campaign contributions put Clinton
over the top against Dole. It did not. Now you want to change the subject.

snerk

On Mar 13, 8:13*am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:06 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 7:18 am, BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Mar 12, 8:59 pm, hk wrote:
harry, no pres, had done anything about immigration control all the
way back to FDR and before.
really now, isn't blaming Bush about immigration sort of a lame
arguement?
Tim, that's not true. The first big illegal immigrant amnesty I recall
was perpetrated by Ronnie Raygun.
As for blaming Bush, well, he *has* ben *the man* for the past seven+
years, and he's done nothing about it, along with the many other sores
tasking this country about which he has done nothing.
He was just following the example set by his immediate predecessor,
Clinton. Clinton the accomplish nothing president.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Oh sure he did, Billary sold our missle and nuke tech to the Chinese
military for 3million in late illegal campaign contributions which put
him over the top the second time around.. Of course after saturating
the west coast with the money and winning the election, they "noticed"
the problem and returned the money OOOOPs..
Back to the real world: Clinton one the second time around because he
was popular and because his opponent was a lousy presidential candidate
and ran a half-assed campaign.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And they flooded the commercial market with 3 million dollars from the
Chinese Military, and that is a known fact.. period.

"A known fact."

*snerk- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes, it is a known fact. That is why Billary apologized and returned
the money.. I am finished, I know you won't accept the facts.