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John H.[_3_] March 12th 08 01:48 AM

No biggie, but...
 
On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:11:36 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:05:32 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Well, isn't *that* special.

So, what's the difference between a Mac running Windows (I've read that it
can) and a PC running Windows?


It's an emulation and not a strict operating system as I understand
it. Kind an overlay.

Personally, I find Macs very hard to use. It takes a particular mind
set to operate a Mac compared to Windows.

There is nothing "intuitive" about a Mac operating system.


One year they gave all of us teaching in Fairfax County a new Mac for the
classroom.

Everyone bitched.

So they gave us all PC emulator programs for the Mac so we could run
Windows and all the Windows software we already had.

Everyone still bitched.

So the next year they gave us all Dells and put the Macs in one room for
the kids.

The next year they got rid of the Macs and put Dells everywhere.
--
John

Eisboch March 12th 08 01:51 AM

No biggie, but...
 

"Tim" wrote in message
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On Mar 11, 8:30 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:

He and I get along just fine. We snarl at each other.

Eisboch



richard, if you want to show him who's boss, i suppose you could
always challenge him to a kicking or biting contest.

*rolling eyes*


Actually, I kinda like Sebastian, for a horse. Unlike her other two horses,
he has a bit of an "attitude".
It's like he's thinking, "Get off my back!"

Eisboch



John H.[_3_] March 12th 08 02:04 AM

No biggie, but...
 
On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:59:02 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


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OR you can run windoze in a virtual machine, which is what I am going
to try first.


That is what I don't understand and why I asked about reliability, etc.
Why would you by a Mac to run Windows?

Or are there other advantages or capabilities of a Mac that make it
worth the investment?

Serious question .... not being snarky. You just happen to be one of
the few people I know that has recently purchased a Mac that can also
run Windows.

Eisboch


There are a couple of programs I have that will not run in the Mac
environment, and there is no Mac alternative for them. One of these is
the mapsource program from Garmin for my 4208 chartplotter.

There are also a couple of programs I have that I see no need to replace
with Mac versions. As an example, I use Quicken as my checkbook and
credit card manager. I have the PC version and I see no reason to buy a
Mac version for my use on the road when I don't have access to my
desktop machine. Hopefully, the "virtual PC" VMware will let me boot
into Windoze and then run Quicken.

I just finished installed XP Pro in a virtual machine, and it seems to
be working.


Ok. So Windows works for the most part.
The question remains. Why a Mac to run Windows?

Eisboch


The new slim Mac laptops, from pictures look kinda neat. A really thin
profile. I've never seen one in person.

Why buy a Mac when everything you use works in Windows, I guess because
you can. An analogy for you, you have many different guitars. Please
don't take that as a slam, it sure isn't intended that way. Have top be
kinda careful around here these days. 0-)

As for myself I buy things I don't need, just because I can and I think
they are neat. I have no desire for a Mac, but that's just me.



Ok. I understand. The guitar analogy got me. They all do the same thing
..... but differently.
It's funny how people vary in interests. To me, a computer offers
absolutely no thrill at all. But a program running on it that supports
another interest grabs my attention.

Believe me, I am not foreign to the concept of buying things I don't need.
My wife reminds me of this almost daily.

Eisboch

By asking you to feed the horses?
--
John

Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] March 12th 08 10:28 AM

No biggie, but...
 
Eisboch wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Tim wrote:
hk wrote:
...picked up my Mac today...and despite all my thumbs, I sorta
figured
some of it out. Maybe.
Harry, I know some people that are Mac addicts. They wouldn't use any
other system.

Software issues aside .... are there any claims or evidence that Mac
hardware is better ... more reliable .... longer lasting ... etc. than
the typical CPUs and components used in PCs?

Eisboch

I don't see how that could be, as the main ingredients are pretty much
the same quality, and depend more on price. If you buy certified memory,
you are getting something that may be better than uncertified memory.
The drives are the same, the cpu's are the same, the ergonomics are a
lot different.

The CPU's are the same?
Just goes to show how ignorant I am about computers. Last I knew, Apple
had their own CPU's.

Eisboch


Intel is now making Apple CPUs.


Well, isn't *that* special.

So, what's the difference between a Mac running Windows (I've read that it
can) and a PC running Windows?

Eisboch



Eisboch, With all the problems everyone has been having with Vista, I
can understand why someone would want to buy a Mac. ;)



HK March 12th 08 10:37 AM

No biggie, but...
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Tim wrote:
hk wrote:
...picked up my Mac today...and despite all my thumbs, I sorta
figured
some of it out. Maybe.
Harry, I know some people that are Mac addicts. They wouldn't
use any
other system.

Software issues aside .... are there any claims or evidence that
Mac hardware is better ... more reliable .... longer lasting ...
etc. than the typical CPUs and components used in PCs?

Eisboch

I don't see how that could be, as the main ingredients are pretty
much the same quality, and depend more on price. If you buy
certified memory, you are getting something that may be better than
uncertified memory. The drives are the same, the cpu's are the
same, the ergonomics are a lot different.

The CPU's are the same?
Just goes to show how ignorant I am about computers. Last I knew,
Apple had their own CPU's.

Eisboch

Intel is now making Apple CPUs.


Well, isn't *that* special.

So, what's the difference between a Mac running Windows (I've read
that it can) and a PC running Windows?

Eisboch


Eisboch, With all the problems everyone has been having with Vista, I
can understand why someone would want to buy a Mac. ;)




"Everyone" isn't having "problems" running VISTA, but I can understand
how some might have problems running VISTA or XP or 98 or Tiger or
Leopard or MS-DOS or even an alarm clock.

BAR March 12th 08 10:53 AM

No biggie, but...
 
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Tim wrote:
hk wrote:
...picked up my Mac today...and despite all my thumbs, I sorta
figured
some of it out. Maybe.
Harry, I know some people that are Mac addicts. They wouldn't
use any
other system.

Software issues aside .... are there any claims or evidence that
Mac hardware is better ... more reliable .... longer lasting ...
etc. than the typical CPUs and components used in PCs?

Eisboch

I don't see how that could be, as the main ingredients are pretty
much the same quality, and depend more on price. If you buy
certified memory, you are getting something that may be better
than uncertified memory. The drives are the same, the cpu's are
the same, the ergonomics are a lot different.

The CPU's are the same?
Just goes to show how ignorant I am about computers. Last I knew,
Apple had their own CPU's.

Eisboch

Intel is now making Apple CPUs.


Well, isn't *that* special.

So, what's the difference between a Mac running Windows (I've read
that it can) and a PC running Windows?

Eisboch


Eisboch, With all the problems everyone has been having with Vista, I
can understand why someone would want to buy a Mac. ;)




"Everyone" isn't having "problems" running VISTA, but I can understand
how some might have problems running VISTA or XP or 98 or Tiger or
Leopard or MS-DOS or even an alarm clock.


Harry was getting figuartively bitch slapped by all of the hippie
liberal progressives at the whining circle about using a PC with a Bill
Gates -- Big Software OS. He decided to change.

HK March 12th 08 11:38 AM

No biggie, but...
 
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Tim wrote:
hk wrote:
...picked up my Mac today...and despite all my thumbs, I
sorta figured
some of it out. Maybe.
Harry, I know some people that are Mac addicts. They wouldn't
use any
other system.

Software issues aside .... are there any claims or evidence that
Mac hardware is better ... more reliable .... longer lasting ...
etc. than the typical CPUs and components used in PCs?

Eisboch

I don't see how that could be, as the main ingredients are pretty
much the same quality, and depend more on price. If you buy
certified memory, you are getting something that may be better
than uncertified memory. The drives are the same, the cpu's are
the same, the ergonomics are a lot different.

The CPU's are the same?
Just goes to show how ignorant I am about computers. Last I
knew, Apple had their own CPU's.

Eisboch

Intel is now making Apple CPUs.


Well, isn't *that* special.

So, what's the difference between a Mac running Windows (I've read
that it can) and a PC running Windows?

Eisboch


Eisboch, With all the problems everyone has been having with Vista, I
can understand why someone would want to buy a Mac. ;)




"Everyone" isn't having "problems" running VISTA, but I can understand
how some might have problems running VISTA or XP or 98 or Tiger or
Leopard or MS-DOS or even an alarm clock.


Harry was getting figuartively bitch slapped by all of the hippie
liberal progressives at the whining circle about using a PC with a Bill
Gates -- Big Software OS. He decided to change.



You certainly seem driven by your fantasies. :)

[email protected] March 12th 08 12:16 PM

No biggie, but...
 
On Mar 11, 5:42*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message

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Tim wrote:


hk wrote:
...picked up my Mac today...and despite all my thumbs, I sorta figured
some of it out. Maybe.


Harry, I know some people that are Mac addicts. They wouldn't use any
other system.


Software issues aside .... are there any claims or evidence that Mac
hardware is better ... more reliable .... longer lasting ... etc. than the
typical CPUs and components used in PCs?

Eisboch


There's a lot less software available for Mac. In my profession, there
just isn't software available to even think about going to Mac.

[email protected] March 12th 08 12:17 PM

No biggie, but...
 
On Mar 11, 6:05*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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Tim wrote:
hk wrote:
...picked up my Mac today...and despite all my thumbs, I sorta
figured
some of it out. Maybe.
Harry, I know some people that are Mac addicts. They wouldn't use any
other system.


Software issues aside .... are there any claims or evidence that Mac
hardware is better ... more reliable .... longer lasting ... etc. than
the typical CPUs and components used in PCs?


Eisboch


I don't see how that could be, as the main ingredients are pretty much
the same quality, and depend more on price. If you buy certified memory,
you are getting something that may be better than uncertified memory.
The drives are the same, the cpu's are the same, the ergonomics are a
lot different.


The CPU's are the same?
Just goes to show how ignorant I am about computers. * Last I knew, Apple
had their own CPU's.


Eisboch


Intel is now making Apple CPUs.


Well, isn't *that* special.

So, what's the difference between a Mac running Windows (I've read that it
can) and a PC running Windows?

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

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When a mac runs windows, it's slow.

[email protected] March 12th 08 12:20 PM

No biggie, but...
 
On Mar 11, 9:30*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"John H." wrote in message

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On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:59:02 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


Believe me, I am not foreign to the concept of buying things I don't need.
My wife reminds me of this almost daily.


Eisboch


By asking you to feed the horses?
--
John


Nope. *She knows better. * It's funny though. *The horse she brought "home"
last week (Sebastian) *has a reputation of being a grouchy old fart who
likes to be left alone and not bothered. * He and I get along just fine. *We
snarl at each other.

Eisboch


I miss my horsies... I miss it when they snarl at me and I quietly
step in a calm them. I miss it when it don't work and they scare the
**** out of me;) I do..


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