On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:06:29 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

A few around. Statements by both
J. Tom and Elvin my Tarpon guide. Too noisy and reliability is bad.

That right there tells me that Jungle Tom and Elvis don't know what
they are talking about.

Sorry Bill, ain't buying it.

Calif Bill wrote:
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On Wed, 12 Mar 08, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I'm seeing more and more of them and guys I know who own the 90 ETEC
swear by them as the best outboard engine ever built.
Even so, they've got their work cut out getting the market back from
Yamaha. The most well known long time OMC dealer here doesn't sell new
motors at all anymore. They keep the shop doors open by maintaining
everybody's old 2 strokes. They've got a loyal customer base.
Most people here don't even know we have an Etech dealer. The store is
new and known more for selling jet skis, four wheelers, and bicycles.
I think the old OMC dealer could do a much better job at competing
with the Yamaha dealers. I'm not sure how it ended up like this. But
frankly, everything is still topsy turvy around here after Katrina.
It's a different world here.
It'll be interesting to see how it all shakes out though.

Rick



Yamaha's may be hurting soon also. Was just down in Costa Rica and talking
to the owner of Jungle Tom's tours. He supplies the boat transport for a
different tour companies, as well as observation of the boats in Tortuguero
area. All travel via boat of planes, as no roads. Suzuki seems to be the
ruling motor now. The Johnson's on the boats are 115-140 hp models and the
captain said they are Suzuki powerheads. Cheaper than Yamaha's to purchase
and run as well. Asked him about Etec's. A few around. Statements by both
J. Tom and Elvin my Tarpon guide. Too noisy and reliability is bad. Said
you will see a lot of the boats with twins will have one Etec up as it is
dead. Also said Etec will never be a big brand until it is like a Hyundai.
Parts readily available and reasonably priced. Etec injector is about a $1k
each. Will psot in another thread a trip report.



Uh-oh...the SW Tom Etec Defense League will be forming up soon.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:06:29 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

A few around. Statements by both
J. Tom and Elvin my Tarpon guide. Too noisy and reliability is bad.

That right there tells me that Jungle Tom and Elvis don't know what
they are talking about.

Sorry Bill, ain't buying it.


Well, of course!

snerk

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:06:29 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

A few around. Statements by both
J. Tom and Elvin my Tarpon guide. Too noisy and reliability is bad.

That right there tells me that Jungle Tom and Elvis don't know what
they are talking about.

Sorry Bill, ain't buying it.

There money is made via boating. They have no reason to lie. They are
correct about parts cost and availability. One had the same comment about
Honda's. Expensive and if you need a part, is not readily available.

On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:52:04 -0800, Calif Bill wrote:


There money is made via boating. They have no reason to lie. They are
correct about parts cost and availability. One had the same comment
about Honda's. Expensive and if you need a part, is not readily
available.

I wonder if Etec's special oil is available. That could be part of the
reliability problems.

On Mar 13, 7:27*pm, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:06:29 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

A few around. *Statements by both
J. Tom and Elvin my Tarpon guide. *Too noisy and reliability is bad.

That right there tells me that Jungle Tom and Elvis don't know what
they are talking about.

Sorry Bill, ain't buying it.

Well, of course!

*snerk

Harry, Tom is done with your constant lies and childish bull****,
remember?

On Mar 13, 6:26*pm, HK wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
wrote in message
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On Wed, 12 Mar 08, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I'm seeing more and more of them and guys I know who own the 90 ETEC
swear by them as the best outboard engine ever built.
Even so, they've got their work cut out getting the market back from
Yamaha. The most well known long time OMC dealer here doesn't sell new
motors at all anymore. They keep the shop doors open by maintaining
everybody's old 2 strokes. They've got a loyal customer base.
Most people here don't even know we have an Etech dealer. The store is
new and known more for selling jet skis, four wheelers, and bicycles.
I think the old OMC dealer could do a much better job at competing
with the Yamaha dealers. I'm not sure how it ended up like this. But
frankly, everything is still topsy turvy around here after Katrina.
It's a different world here.
It'll be interesting to see how it all shakes out though.

Rick

Yamaha's may be hurting soon also. *Was just down in Costa Rica and talking
to the owner of Jungle Tom's tours. *He supplies the boat transport for a
different tour companies, as well as observation of the boats in Tortuguero
area. *All travel via boat of planes, as no roads. *Suzuki seems to be the
ruling motor now. *The Johnson's on the boats are 115-140 hp models and the
captain said they are Suzuki powerheads. *Cheaper than Yamaha's to purchase
and run as well. *Asked him about Etec's. *A few around. *Statements by both
J. Tom and Elvin my Tarpon guide. *Too noisy and reliability is bad. *Said
you will see a lot of the boats with twins will have one Etec up as it is
dead. *Also said Etec will never be a big brand until it is like a Hyundai.
Parts readily available and reasonably priced. *Etec injector is about a $1k
each. *Will psot in another thread a trip report.

Uh-oh...the SW Tom Etec Defense League will be forming up soon.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, I like Tom, but I won't be in the league. I'm a Mercruiser kind
of guy, that is unless I can find the deal of a lifetime on a 28 ft.
pontoon then I can put my old 115 hp Evinrude on it...

Tim wrote:
On Mar 13, 6:26 pm, HK wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Wed, 12 Mar 08, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I'm seeing more and more of them and guys I know who own the 90 ETEC
swear by them as the best outboard engine ever built.
Even so, they've got their work cut out getting the market back from
Yamaha. The most well known long time OMC dealer here doesn't sell new
motors at all anymore. They keep the shop doors open by maintaining
everybody's old 2 strokes. They've got a loyal customer base.
Most people here don't even know we have an Etech dealer. The store is
new and known more for selling jet skis, four wheelers, and bicycles.
I think the old OMC dealer could do a much better job at competing
with the Yamaha dealers. I'm not sure how it ended up like this. But
frankly, everything is still topsy turvy around here after Katrina.
It's a different world here.
It'll be interesting to see how it all shakes out though.
Rick
Yamaha's may be hurting soon also. Was just down in Costa Rica and talking
to the owner of Jungle Tom's tours. He supplies the boat transport for a
different tour companies, as well as observation of the boats in Tortuguero
area. All travel via boat of planes, as no roads. Suzuki seems to be the
ruling motor now. The Johnson's on the boats are 115-140 hp models and the
captain said they are Suzuki powerheads. Cheaper than Yamaha's to purchase
and run as well. Asked him about Etec's. A few around. Statements by both
J. Tom and Elvin my Tarpon guide. Too noisy and reliability is bad. Said
you will see a lot of the boats with twins will have one Etec up as it is
dead. Also said Etec will never be a big brand until it is like a Hyundai.
Parts readily available and reasonably priced. Etec injector is about a $1k
each. Will psot in another thread a trip report.
Uh-oh...the SW Tom Etec Defense League will be forming up soon.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, I like Tom, but I won't be in the league. I'm a Mercruiser kind
of guy, that is unless I can find the deal of a lifetime on a 28 ft.
pontoon then I can put my old 115 hp Evinrude on it...



Ahhh... a pre-French 'rude!

On Mar 14, 9:35*pm, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Mar 13, 6:26 pm, HK wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Wed, 12 Mar 08, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I'm seeing more and more of them and guys I know who own the 90 ETEC
swear by them as the best outboard engine ever built.
Even so, they've got their work cut out getting the market back from
Yamaha. The most well known long time OMC dealer here doesn't sell new
motors at all anymore. They keep the shop doors open by maintaining
everybody's old 2 strokes. They've got a loyal customer base.
Most people here don't even know we have an Etech dealer. The store is
new and known more for selling jet skis, four wheelers, and bicycles.
I think the old OMC dealer could do a much better job at competing
with the Yamaha dealers. I'm not sure how it ended up like this. But
frankly, everything is still topsy turvy around here after Katrina.
It's a different world here.
It'll be interesting to see how it all shakes out though.
Rick
Yamaha's may be hurting soon also. *Was just down in Costa Rica and talking
to the owner of Jungle Tom's tours. *He supplies the boat transport for a
different tour companies, as well as observation of the boats in Tortuguero
area. *All travel via boat of planes, as no roads. *Suzuki seems to be the
ruling motor now. *The Johnson's on the boats are 115-140 hp models and the
captain said they are Suzuki powerheads. *Cheaper than Yamaha's to purchase
and run as well. *Asked him about Etec's. *A few around. *Statements by both
J. Tom and Elvin my Tarpon guide. *Too noisy and reliability is bad. *Said
you will see a lot of the boats with twins will have one Etec up as it is
dead. *Also said Etec will never be a big brand until it is like a Hyundai.
Parts readily available and reasonably priced. *Etec injector is about a $1k
each. *Will psot in another thread a trip report.
Uh-oh...the SW Tom Etec Defense League will be forming up soon.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, I like Tom, but I won't be in the league. I'm a Mercruiser kind
of guy, that is unless I can find the deal of a lifetime on a 28 ft.
pontoon then I can put my old 115 hp Evinrude on it...

Ahhh... a pre-French 'rude!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes, back in the late 70's. New power head in 1991. Less than 50 hr's
on it.

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On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:52:04 -0800, Calif Bill wrote:


There money is made via boating. They have no reason to lie. They are
correct about parts cost and availability. One had the same comment
about Honda's. Expensive and if you need a part, is not readily
available.

I wonder if Etec's special oil is available. That could be part of the
reliability problems.

Most likely.