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On Mar 10, 9:52 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
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Ah yes - the "hook". If you watch commercials carefully, you will
always find the "hook" - which is basically the thing that forces you
to pay attention. Kind of like popups.


Yes, the hook.. I will not have Vonage in my home or business because
of "the hook". Seriously, Mrs. JW would like to try it, but they spent
to many nights scaring me out of sleep and waking everyone in the
house with that Doo, doo......doo, doo, doo, song (I know it's on the
net, please don't bother posting a link for me, please). Anyway, they
ruined a lot of late night movies for me, I will not use them, period.
Would never use the poor quality for business anyway, but I won't even
use it for personal long distance, not gonna' happen.

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I can't stand the stupid "Head ON" commercials or whatever the product is
called. It's the one with the girl pictured with the narration, "Apply
directly to the forehead". The volume .... frequency or whatever is
blasted and the commercial is so damn irritating that I often click the TV
off completely.

Eisboch

"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
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All they need to do to hook most of the male audience is to put a hot
woman on the screen with a sexy voice.

Some of the "Infomercials" are really an insult to your intelligence. The
one with the two young ladies discussing how they have made a fortune using
a website sales gimmick comes immediately to mind. I've watched it from
beginning to end at least 10 times.

Eisboch

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:36:25 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
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Here's a basic description of the process. Pretty much along the lines
you described.

http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/INFO_SHT/G3.HTM


That ShortWave guy isn't so dumb after all. Never knew that.

OH gee - now you're embarrassing me.

Um...er...

HEY!!!

I have a new complaint. It seems like lately there are a bunch of
different
commercials that include a cell phone ringing.
Half the time I have a TV on, sorta half listening to it, as I do other
stuff. When the stupid cell phone in the commercial rings, it catches my
attention .... at least for a moment. I don't know if it's coincidental
or
if some marketing research group figured out how to get you to pay
attention
to the commercials.

Ah yes - the "hook". If you watch commercials carefully, you will
always find the "hook" - which is basically the thing that forces you
to pay attention. Kind of like popups.

However, as long as we are on pet TV peeves, mine is the upcoming show
banners they put on.

They put these huge banners that cover the bottom left corner of the
screen and take out about 20% of the viewing surface and they last for
like ten seconds.

Annoys the crap out of me. History Channel is the worst offender with
Discovery close behind - my two favorite channels. I don't mind the
bug in the right hand corner, but those upcoming show banners really
**** me off. Recently, History changed their bug from a unobstrusive
semi-transparent logo to this really ugly red and yellow huge freakin'
H. Took a while to get used to it.

What's really neat is when there's local weather alerts here. Then the
screen really gets full.

We do a lot of time shifting of our TV viewing. It's doesn't do anything
for the screen clutter but we can sure zip right through the commercials and
eliminate those associated problems.

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On Mar 10, 9:52 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:


Ah yes - the "hook". If you watch commercials carefully, you will
always find the "hook" - which is basically the thing that forces you
to pay attention. Kind of like popups.


Yes, the hook.. I will not have Vonage in my home or business because
of "the hook". Seriously, Mrs. JW would like to try it, but they spent
to many nights scaring me out of sleep and waking everyone in the
house with that Doo, doo......doo, doo, doo, song (I know it's on the
net, please don't bother posting a link for me, please). Anyway, they
ruined a lot of late night movies for me, I will not use them, period.
Would never use the poor quality for business anyway, but I won't even
use it for personal long distance, not gonna' happen.

--------------------------------------------

I can't stand the stupid "Head ON" commercials or whatever the product is
called. It's the one with the girl pictured with the narration, "Apply
directly to the forehead". The volume .... frequency or whatever is
blasted and the commercial is so damn irritating that I often click the TV
off completely.

Eisboch

Don't know about head on but active on works. Trans dermal medication makes
a lot of sense.

On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:03:06 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

wrote:
On Mar 10, 9:52 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Ah yes - the "hook". If you watch commercials carefully, you will
always find the "hook" - which is basically the thing that forces you
to pay attention. Kind of like popups.


Yes, the hook.. I will not have Vonage in my home or business because
of "the hook". Seriously, Mrs. JW would like to try it, but they spent
to many nights scaring me out of sleep and waking everyone in the
house with that Doo, doo......doo, doo, doo, song (I know it's on the
net, please don't bother posting a link for me, please). Anyway, they
ruined a lot of late night movies for me, I will not use them, period.
Would never use the poor quality for business anyway, but I won't even
use it for personal long distance, not gonna' happen.
Anyway, it's called the "Madge". Remember Madge the manicurist.
Although not really annoying by most or our standards, it was indeed
intended to be annoying, this was the first commercial admittedly
designed to use an annoying personality as a hook.. But it worked, and
we do see the results.. Guess I am somewhat of a hypocrite, I use
Palmolive on in my kitchen..
However, as long as we are on pet TV peeves, mine is the upcoming show
banners they put on.

They put these huge banners that cover the bottom left corner of the
screen and take out about 20% of the viewing surface and they last for
like ten seconds.


The thing I hate about that is they won't put one up to tell you what
you are watching now! That ****es me off. but they got to get you to
go to the ad channel, oh, I mean, channel channel (listings channel)
to watch washed up American Idol has been's

Annoys the crap out of me. History Channel is the worst offender with
Discovery close behind - my two favorite channels. I don't mind the
bug in the right hand corner, but those upcoming show banners really
**** me off. Recently, History changed their bug from a unobstrusive
semi-transparent logo to this really ugly red and yellow huge freakin'
H. Took a while to get used to it.

grrrrrr.


I have had vonage for a few years now, I can actually get VOIP from AT&T
for $5 / month less, but since I figure that is their attempt to get rid
of competition, I have not changed. I just hope they can stay in
business.

By the way, it is not Doo Doo, but Woo Woo performed by Rock*a*Teens in
1959.

Woo Hoo - not Woo Woo.

Woo Woo was used by Arnie Ginsberg in Boston during the sixties.

Arnie "Woo Woo" Ginsberg.

On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 04:46:05 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


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On Mar 10, 9:52 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:


Ah yes - the "hook". If you watch commercials carefully, you will
always find the "hook" - which is basically the thing that forces you
to pay attention. Kind of like popups.


Yes, the hook.. I will not have Vonage in my home or business because
of "the hook". Seriously, Mrs. JW would like to try it, but they spent
to many nights scaring me out of sleep and waking everyone in the
house with that Doo, doo......doo, doo, doo, song (I know it's on the
net, please don't bother posting a link for me, please). Anyway, they
ruined a lot of late night movies for me, I will not use them, period.
Would never use the poor quality for business anyway, but I won't even
use it for personal long distance, not gonna' happen.

--------------------------------------------

I can't stand the stupid "Head ON" commercials or whatever the product is
called. It's the one with the girl pictured with the narration, "Apply
directly to the forehead". The volume .... frequency or whatever is
blasted and the commercial is so damn irritating that I often click the TV
off completely.

According to CNBC, that is the most successful ad campaign in history.

On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:27:35 -0700, -rick- wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

I forgot to mention that the frequency shift is the real reason it
sounds louder because it's different than those used in the programs.

They don't shift the frequencies, they just equalize it
different (altered frequency response) and use compression
to achieve higher average level.

I have it on very good authority that the frequency is shifted by a
few hundred Hertz.

Who cares - the net effect is still annoying.

On Mar 11, 6:36*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 04:46:05 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

wrote in message
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On Mar 10, 9:52 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Ah yes - the "hook". If you watch commercials carefully, you will
always find the "hook" - which is basically the thing that forces you
to pay attention. Kind of like popups.

Yes, the hook.. I will not have Vonage in my home or business because
of "the hook". Seriously, Mrs. JW would like to try it, but they spent
to many nights scaring me out of sleep and waking everyone in the
house with that Doo, doo......doo, doo, doo, song *(I know it's on the
net, please don't bother posting a link for me, please). Anyway, they
ruined a lot of late night movies for me, I will not use them, period.
Would never use the poor quality for business anyway, but I won't even
use it for personal long distance, not gonna' happen.

--------------------------------------------

I can't stand the stupid "Head ON" *commercials or whatever the product is
called. * It's the one with the girl pictured with the narration, "Apply
directly to the forehead". * *The volume .... frequency or whatever is
blasted and the commercial is so damn irritating that I often click the TV
off completely.

According to CNBC, that is the most successful ad campaign in history.- Hide quoted text -

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Yup, head on is the reason I just don't listen to commercials anymore,
I mute them as soon as I hear the lead in. My bud from ******* says I
am stupid, "how are you going to know about new stufff". He is the
same guy that asked if we could stop blocking spam on his server, so
he could "get all the good porn links" Actually, I have a great
solution, just have to see if it has already been patented, seriously,
I think it would work great, just need to get it off the ground.. If
nothing else, the ad agencies would buy the patent from me and I would
make a fortune.

Eisboch wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
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All they need to do to hook most of the male audience is to put a hot
woman on the screen with a sexy voice.

Some of the "Infomercials" are really an insult to your intelligence. The
one with the two young ladies discussing how they have made a fortune using
a website sales gimmick comes immediately to mind. I've watched it from
beginning to end at least 10 times.

Eisboch



And I bet you felt insulted each and every time. ...

Plays With Morons wrote:
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By the way, it is not Doo Doo, but Woo Woo performed by Rock*a*Teens in
1959.

Woo Hoo - not Woo Woo.

Woo Woo was used by Arnie Ginsberg in Boston during the sixties.

Arnie "Woo Woo" Ginsberg.

I stand corrected. By the way, I like your nick and it is appropriate
for this NG, you will fit right in.