Is there a device or TV that keeps volume level or at least
constrained? My kid is trying to watch a movie on FX and the volume
fluxuation is so severe that we can't even let my kid watch it as we
are trying to have phone conversations with clients in the next room.
One second it needs to be at volume level 45, the next 18-20 is
plenty.. This is rediculous, can't even watch the TV we pay 100 bucks
a month for.. Crap...

On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 00:32:05 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:19:50 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:46:44 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Is there a device or TV that keeps volume level or at least
constrained? My kid is trying to watch a movie on FX and the volume
fluxuation is so severe that we can't even let my kid watch it as we
are trying to have phone conversations with clients in the next room.
One second it needs to be at volume level 45, the next 18-20 is
plenty.. This is rediculous, can't even watch the TV we pay 100 bucks
a month for.. Crap...

It's not the volume actually - the signal input never varies.

What changes is the frequency of the audio.

Very clever.

The frequency of the audio? Wouldn't that make the voices sound unnatural.

I do a lot of radio station time shifting via the Internet. I like to
listen to programs from the old home town at night. I have the same problem
with audio level differences between commercials and the programming.

I took of the files I downloaded and loaded it into Cool Edit Pro. Sure
enough, the audio amplitude level between the commercials and the
programming is significantly different.

Just my observations.

It's true. The shift is to slighty higher, sharper tones and
frequency - you really wouldn't notice it.

The other reason is that in addition to the slight frequency shift,
the audio is leveled such that it's loud all the time.

The FCC regulates how loud a commercial can be and it can be no louder
than the highest audio level reached in the show. The same with
frequency.

However, the FCC doesn't regulate the audio level for commercials - so
with the slight shift in frequency bringing sharper audio, the levels
are at the loudest level produced during the broadcast itself.

Net effect - louder commercials even though they aren't louder than
the broadcast.

Like I said, very clever.

I forgot to mention that the frequency shift is the real reason it
sounds louder because it's different than those used in the programs.

On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:35:30 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Mar 10, 8:32*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:19:50 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:46:44 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Is there a device or TV that keeps volume level or at least
constrained? My kid is trying to watch a movie on FX and the volume
fluxuation is so severe that we can't even let my kid watch it as we
are trying to have phone conversations with clients in the next room.
One second it needs to be at volume level 45, the next 18-20 is
plenty.. This is rediculous, can't even watch the TV we pay 100 bucks
a month for.. Crap...

It's not the volume actually - the signal input never varies.

What changes is the frequency of the audio.

Very clever.

The frequency of the audio? *Wouldn't that make the voices sound unnatural.

I do a lot of radio station time shifting via the Internet. *I like to
listen to programs from the old home town at night. *I have the same problem
with audio level differences between commercials and the programming.

I took of the files I downloaded and loaded it into Cool Edit Pro. *Sure
enough, the audio amplitude level between the commercials and the
programming is significantly different.

Just my observations.

It's true. *The shift is to slighty higher, sharper tones and
frequency - you really wouldn't notice it.

The other reason is that in addition to the slight frequency shift,
the audio is leveled such that it's loud all the time.

The FCC regulates how loud a commercial can be and it can be no louder
than the highest audio level reached in the show. *The same with
frequency.

However, the FCC doesn't regulate the audio level for commercials - so
with the slight shift in frequency bringing sharper audio, the levels
are at the loudest level produced during the broadcast itself.

Net effect - louder commercials even though they aren't louder than
the broadcast.

Like I said, very clever.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Several years back there was a Motorola tv that was advertized with a
"fix" for the problem. It dissapperard almost as fast as it came, more
likely someone bought the technology and patent and buried it.. Like
the ad agencies or cable companies..

Never knew that.

On Mar 10, 8:43*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:35:30 -0700 (PDT),





wrote:
On Mar 10, 8:32*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:19:50 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:46:44 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Is there a device or TV that keeps volume level or at least
constrained? My kid is trying to watch a movie on FX and the volume
fluxuation is so severe that we can't even let my kid watch it as we
are trying to have phone conversations with clients in the next room..
One second it needs to be at volume level 45, the next 18-20 is
plenty.. This is rediculous, can't even watch the TV we pay 100 bucks
a month for.. Crap...

It's not the volume actually - the signal input never varies.

What changes is the frequency of the audio.

Very clever.

The frequency of the audio? *Wouldn't that make the voices sound unnatural.

I do a lot of radio station time shifting via the Internet. *I like to
listen to programs from the old home town at night. *I have the same problem
with audio level differences between commercials and the programming.

I took of the files I downloaded and loaded it into Cool Edit Pro. *Sure
enough, the audio amplitude level between the commercials and the
programming is significantly different.

Just my observations.

It's true. *The shift is to slighty higher, sharper tones and
frequency - you really wouldn't notice it.

The other reason is that in addition to the slight frequency shift,
the audio is leveled such that it's loud all the time.

The FCC regulates how loud a commercial can be and it can be no louder
than the highest audio level reached in the show. *The same with
frequency.

However, the FCC doesn't regulate the audio level for commercials - so
with the slight shift in frequency bringing sharper audio, the levels
are at the loudest level produced during the broadcast itself.

Net effect - louder commercials even though they aren't louder than
the broadcast.

Like I said, very clever.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Several years back there was a Motorola tv that was advertized with a
"fix" for the problem. It dissapperard almost as fast as it came, more
likely someone bought the technology and patent and buried it.. Like
the ad agencies or cable companies..

Never knew that.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yup, came and went very quickly. I always figured the developers
probably made it just to cash in on it as they probably did.. Might be
able to find something on it, I think it was Motorola, iirc. Somehow I
am thinking the early 90's..

On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:47:08 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Mar 10, 8:43*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:35:30 -0700 (PDT),





wrote:
On Mar 10, 8:32*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:19:50 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:46:44 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Is there a device or TV that keeps volume level or at least
constrained? My kid is trying to watch a movie on FX and the volume
fluxuation is so severe that we can't even let my kid watch it as we
are trying to have phone conversations with clients in the next room.
One second it needs to be at volume level 45, the next 18-20 is
plenty.. This is rediculous, can't even watch the TV we pay 100 bucks
a month for.. Crap...

It's not the volume actually - the signal input never varies.

What changes is the frequency of the audio.

Very clever.

The frequency of the audio? *Wouldn't that make the voices sound unnatural.

I do a lot of radio station time shifting via the Internet. *I like to
listen to programs from the old home town at night. *I have the same problem
with audio level differences between commercials and the programming.

I took of the files I downloaded and loaded it into Cool Edit Pro. *Sure
enough, the audio amplitude level between the commercials and the
programming is significantly different.

Just my observations.

It's true. *The shift is to slighty higher, sharper tones and
frequency - you really wouldn't notice it.

The other reason is that in addition to the slight frequency shift,
the audio is leveled such that it's loud all the time.

The FCC regulates how loud a commercial can be and it can be no louder
than the highest audio level reached in the show. *The same with
frequency.

However, the FCC doesn't regulate the audio level for commercials - so
with the slight shift in frequency bringing sharper audio, the levels
are at the loudest level produced during the broadcast itself.

Net effect - louder commercials even though they aren't louder than
the broadcast.

Like I said, very clever.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Several years back there was a Motorola tv that was advertized with a
"fix" for the problem. It dissapperard almost as fast as it came, more
likely someone bought the technology and patent and buried it.. Like
the ad agencies or cable companies..

Never knew that.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yup, came and went very quickly. I always figured the developers
probably made it just to cash in on it as they probably did.. Might be
able to find something on it, I think it was Motorola, iirc. Somehow I
am thinking the early 90's..

Speaking of early '90s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_bomb

On Mar 10, 8:43*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:35:30 -0700 (PDT),





wrote:
On Mar 10, 8:32*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:19:50 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:46:44 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Is there a device or TV that keeps volume level or at least
constrained? My kid is trying to watch a movie on FX and the volume
fluxuation is so severe that we can't even let my kid watch it as we
are trying to have phone conversations with clients in the next room..
One second it needs to be at volume level 45, the next 18-20 is
plenty.. This is rediculous, can't even watch the TV we pay 100 bucks
a month for.. Crap...

It's not the volume actually - the signal input never varies.

What changes is the frequency of the audio.

Very clever.

The frequency of the audio? *Wouldn't that make the voices sound unnatural.

I do a lot of radio station time shifting via the Internet. *I like to
listen to programs from the old home town at night. *I have the same problem
with audio level differences between commercials and the programming.

I took of the files I downloaded and loaded it into Cool Edit Pro. *Sure
enough, the audio amplitude level between the commercials and the
programming is significantly different.

Just my observations.

It's true. *The shift is to slighty higher, sharper tones and
frequency - you really wouldn't notice it.

The other reason is that in addition to the slight frequency shift,
the audio is leveled such that it's loud all the time.

The FCC regulates how loud a commercial can be and it can be no louder
than the highest audio level reached in the show. *The same with
frequency.

However, the FCC doesn't regulate the audio level for commercials - so
with the slight shift in frequency bringing sharper audio, the levels
are at the loudest level produced during the broadcast itself.

Net effect - louder commercials even though they aren't louder than
the broadcast.

Like I said, very clever.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Several years back there was a Motorola tv that was advertized with a
"fix" for the problem. It dissapperard almost as fast as it came, more
likely someone bought the technology and patent and buried it.. Like
the ad agencies or cable companies..

Never knew that.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Want another one. Me and dad and the rest of my family pretty much
stopped taking long showers this winter as we were told by our furnace
tech that there was a valve we might need to replace as time went on
that "seemed bad" but it was not covered in our 500 dollar a year
service contract so I was going to wait till spring and do it myself,
we figured after 20 years we might just get a new boiler. Not having
been here that long, I did not realize how drastically it changed that
day. Anyway, as many of you know, I and you did not know, dad both got
pretty sick this year, with lung and sinus problems.. Not having hot
water for showers, sink, anywhere else made things worse. Not to
mention we wen through almost 30% more oil this year than last year.
So anyway, the other day I started feeling better so I did a new
shower in my dad's bathroom, went down stairs to look things over and
found that they had our high low water temp settings at 155 - 175 and
they set that the day they were here, last fall when I was not really
paying attention.. No wonder we used so much oil, trying to heat a
house in winter with 155 degree water, we are all furious right now..
I may have been able to stay healthy and might even be still working
with my horsies if I could have had hot showers every night after
work.. I am calling Blumental tomorrow.. It was a real scam, and now
that I look back it was absolutely intentional in my opinion..

On Mar 10, 8:43*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:35:30 -0700 (PDT),





wrote:
On Mar 10, 8:32*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:19:50 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:46:44 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Is there a device or TV that keeps volume level or at least
constrained? My kid is trying to watch a movie on FX and the volume
fluxuation is so severe that we can't even let my kid watch it as we
are trying to have phone conversations with clients in the next room..
One second it needs to be at volume level 45, the next 18-20 is
plenty.. This is rediculous, can't even watch the TV we pay 100 bucks
a month for.. Crap...

It's not the volume actually - the signal input never varies.

What changes is the frequency of the audio.

Very clever.

The frequency of the audio? *Wouldn't that make the voices sound unnatural.

I do a lot of radio station time shifting via the Internet. *I like to
listen to programs from the old home town at night. *I have the same problem
with audio level differences between commercials and the programming.

I took of the files I downloaded and loaded it into Cool Edit Pro. *Sure
enough, the audio amplitude level between the commercials and the
programming is significantly different.

Just my observations.

It's true. *The shift is to slighty higher, sharper tones and
frequency - you really wouldn't notice it.

The other reason is that in addition to the slight frequency shift,
the audio is leveled such that it's loud all the time.

The FCC regulates how loud a commercial can be and it can be no louder
than the highest audio level reached in the show. *The same with
frequency.

However, the FCC doesn't regulate the audio level for commercials - so
with the slight shift in frequency bringing sharper audio, the levels
are at the loudest level produced during the broadcast itself.

Net effect - louder commercials even though they aren't louder than
the broadcast.

Like I said, very clever.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Several years back there was a Motorola tv that was advertized with a
"fix" for the problem. It dissapperard almost as fast as it came, more
likely someone bought the technology and patent and buried it.. Like
the ad agencies or cable companies..

Never knew that.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I should add that this week after properly adjusting our temp hi low,
we have plenty of hot water. These folks run a program for old folks,
must be like shooting fish in a barrel for them, never expecting an
old dude to go down and check their work..

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Mar 10, 6:46 pm, wrote:
Is there a device or TV that keeps volume level or at least
constrained? My kid is trying to watch a movie on FX and the volume
fluxuation is so severe that we can't even let my kid watch it as we
are trying to have phone conversations with clients in the next room.
One second it needs to be at volume level 45, the next 18-20 is
plenty.. This is rediculous, can't even watch the TV we pay 100 bucks
a month for.. Crap...

I've noticed that too. When I'm by muself and watching "something" on
TV I have the remote and I'm always flipping the volume between 18 and
23. sometimes the background music over rides the voices to the point
it'[s really frustrating, or a scene is in "wisper mode" for some
reason. Then comes the commercials *argh!*. I know it's been trick to
brodcst the volume of a commercial louder than the programing to get
your attention. That gets old too!

--------------------------------

Look in the audio setup menu for the TV. Some have an option for "auto
volume control" or similar feature.
Turn it on. It won't completely eliminate the difference in volume between
show and commercial, but it helps.

Also, some of the "virtual" surround modes cause a weak dialog volume and
strong background because it's trying to "project" a phase delayed sound to
create the phony surround sound effect. Try turning it off.


Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Mar 10, 6:46 pm, wrote:
Is there a device or TV that keeps volume level or at least
constrained? My kid is trying to watch a movie on FX and the volume
fluxuation is so severe that we can't even let my kid watch it as we
are trying to have phone conversations with clients in the next room.
One second it needs to be at volume level 45, the next 18-20 is
plenty.. This is rediculous, can't even watch the TV we pay 100 bucks
a month for.. Crap...

I've noticed that too. When I'm by muself and watching "something" on
TV I have the remote and I'm always flipping the volume between 18 and
23. sometimes the background music over rides the voices to the point
it'[s really frustrating, or a scene is in "wisper mode" for some
reason. Then comes the commercials *argh!*. I know it's been trick to
brodcst the volume of a commercial louder than the programing to get
your attention. That gets old too!

--------------------------------

Look in the audio setup menu for the TV. Some have an option for "auto
volume control" or similar feature.
Turn it on. It won't completely eliminate the difference in volume
between show and commercial, but it helps.

Also, some of the "virtual" surround modes cause a weak dialog volume and
strong background because it's trying to "project" a phase delayed sound
to create the phony surround sound effect. Try turning it off.


Eisboch


I use the 'mute' button all the time for commercials.
On a favourite program that I really want to hear well, I turn on the home
theater system. What a difference...... much easier to hear with superior
lows.

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...


I figure the frequencies slow down and speed up because of clogs in
the fiber optics cable. Maybe fibers falling off and collecting into
fiberballs. Probably rodding out the cables would clear it up.
Tomorrow I'm going to look for a small rodder intended for that.

--Vic


Sorta like the guy with an old fashioned TV antenna on his roof. Now that
the weather is getting warmer and the antenna is thawing, he's starting to
watch shows that were broadcast last September, but got frozen in the
antenna.

Eisboch