Posted on Thu, Mar. 06, 2008
Anonymous Web postings targeted
BILL WOULD REQUIRE NAMES, ADDRESSES
By John Cheves


A bill filed in the House would keep Kentuckians from posting anonymous
comments to Web sites.

House Bill 775, filed Tuesday by Rep. Tim Couch, R-Hyden, would require
anyone who contributes to a Web site to register a real name, address
and e-mail address with that Web site. The person's full name then would
be used whenever he or she posted a comment.

Web site operators who violate the disclosure law would be fined $500
for a first offense and $1,000 for each subsequent offense.

Couch readily acknowledged on Wednesday that his bill raises First
Amendment issues regarding free speech, so he won't be pushing it. But
he wanted to call attention to the phenomenon of unkind and often untrue
comments about people being posted online by Kentuckians hiding behind
the cloak of anonymity.

"Some nasty things have been said about high school kids in my district,
usually by other kids," Couch said. "The adults get in on it, too."

"When you're anonymous, you can say anything you want to about someone,
and nobody knows who you are," he said.

Couch said he, too, has been the subject of anonymous online roasting,
and while he doesn't enjoy it, he doesn't think there's much the
legislature can do about it.

"I think right now (online posting) is pretty much just on its own. It's
a machine that's going to go its own way," Couch said. "The state can
try to pass some rules, but I don't really think it would do anything."
- - -


Not quite my idea for shedding the cloak of anonymity, but it's a start.
I'd love to see usenet require posters to post with their full, real
name and real ISP.

On Mar 10, 4:12*pm, HK wrote:
Posted on Thu, Mar. 06, 2008
Anonymous Web postings targeted
BILL WOULD REQUIRE NAMES, ADDRESSES
By John Cheves


A bill filed in the House would keep Kentuckians from posting anonymous
comments to Web sites.

House Bill 775, filed Tuesday by Rep. Tim Couch, R-Hyden, would require
anyone who contributes to a Web site to register a real name, address
and e-mail address with that Web site. The person's full name then would
be used whenever he or she posted a comment.

Web site operators who violate the disclosure law would be fined $500
for a first offense and $1,000 for each subsequent offense.

Couch readily acknowledged on Wednesday that his bill raises First
Amendment issues regarding free speech, so he won't be pushing it. But
he wanted to call attention to the phenomenon of unkind and often untrue
comments about people being posted online by Kentuckians hiding behind
the cloak of anonymity.

"Some nasty things have been said about high school kids in my district,
usually by other kids," Couch said. "The adults get in on it, too."

"When you're anonymous, you can say anything you want to about someone,
and nobody knows who you are," he said.

Couch said he, too, has been the subject of anonymous online roasting,
and while he doesn't enjoy it, he doesn't think there's much the
legislature can do about it.

"I think right now (online posting) is pretty much just on its own. It's
a machine that's going to go its own way," Couch said. "The state can
try to pass some rules, but I don't really think it would do anything."
- - -

Not quite my idea for shedding the cloak of anonymity, but it's a start.
I'd love to see usenet require posters to post with their full, real
name and real ISP.

Could get costly. As a web hosting provider I would be looking for a
software package that would block all ip's from that state to any
access to my systems, just like Indonesia and China. It is a political
ploy anyway, someone looking for votes.

wrote:
On Mar 10, 4:12 pm, HK wrote:
Posted on Thu, Mar. 06, 2008
Anonymous Web postings targeted
BILL WOULD REQUIRE NAMES, ADDRESSES
By John Cheves


A bill filed in the House would keep Kentuckians from posting anonymous
comments to Web sites.

House Bill 775, filed Tuesday by Rep. Tim Couch, R-Hyden, would require
anyone who contributes to a Web site to register a real name, address
and e-mail address with that Web site. The person's full name then would
be used whenever he or she posted a comment.

Web site operators who violate the disclosure law would be fined $500
for a first offense and $1,000 for each subsequent offense.

Couch readily acknowledged on Wednesday that his bill raises First
Amendment issues regarding free speech, so he won't be pushing it. But
he wanted to call attention to the phenomenon of unkind and often untrue
comments about people being posted online by Kentuckians hiding behind
the cloak of anonymity.

"Some nasty things have been said about high school kids in my district,
usually by other kids," Couch said. "The adults get in on it, too."

"When you're anonymous, you can say anything you want to about someone,
and nobody knows who you are," he said.

Couch said he, too, has been the subject of anonymous online roasting,
and while he doesn't enjoy it, he doesn't think there's much the
legislature can do about it.

"I think right now (online posting) is pretty much just on its own. It's
a machine that's going to go its own way," Couch said. "The state can
try to pass some rules, but I don't really think it would do anything."
- - -

Not quite my idea for shedding the cloak of anonymity, but it's a start.
I'd love to see usenet require posters to post with their full, real
name and real ISP.

Could get costly. As a web hosting provider I would be looking for a
software package that would block all ip's from that state to any
access to my systems, just like Indonesia and China. It is a political
ploy anyway, someone looking for votes.


Well, I think getting rid of usenet anonymity is a great idea.

On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:12:17 -0400, HK wrote:


Not quite my idea for shedding the cloak of anonymity, but it's a start.
I'd love to see usenet require posters to post with their full, real
name and real ISP.

Yup, let's make in easy for all the child molesters to find their
victims. Harry, the problems caused by online anonymity are far fewer,
and minor, compared to not being anonymous.

"HK" wrote in message
...

wrote:

On Mar 10, 4:12 pm, HK wrote:

Not quite my idea for shedding the cloak of anonymity, but it's a start.
I'd love to see usenet require posters to post with their full, real
name and real ISP.

Could get costly. As a web hosting provider I would be looking for a
software package that would block all ip's from that state to any
access to my systems, just like Indonesia and China. It is a political
ploy anyway, someone looking for votes.


Well, I think getting rid of usenet anonymity is a great idea.


Heh. You realize, don't you Harry, that a picture you posted a while back
of your Vista desktop clearly showed a shortcut to a program called, "Hide
My ISP" ?

Not being "snarky", but everytime you complain about anonymity I think of
that image and program.

Eisboch

wrote in message
...
On Mar 10, 4:12 pm, HK wrote:
Posted on Thu, Mar. 06, 2008
Anonymous Web postings targeted
BILL WOULD REQUIRE NAMES, ADDRESSES
By John Cheves


A bill filed in the House would keep Kentuckians from posting anonymous
comments to Web sites.

House Bill 775, filed Tuesday by Rep. Tim Couch, R-Hyden, would require
anyone who contributes to a Web site to register a real name, address
and e-mail address with that Web site. The person's full name then would
be used whenever he or she posted a comment.

Web site operators who violate the disclosure law would be fined $500
for a first offense and $1,000 for each subsequent offense.

Couch readily acknowledged on Wednesday that his bill raises First
Amendment issues regarding free speech, so he won't be pushing it. But
he wanted to call attention to the phenomenon of unkind and often untrue
comments about people being posted online by Kentuckians hiding behind
the cloak of anonymity.

"Some nasty things have been said about high school kids in my district,
usually by other kids," Couch said. "The adults get in on it, too."

"When you're anonymous, you can say anything you want to about someone,
and nobody knows who you are," he said.

Couch said he, too, has been the subject of anonymous online roasting,
and while he doesn't enjoy it, he doesn't think there's much the
legislature can do about it.

"I think right now (online posting) is pretty much just on its own. It's
a machine that's going to go its own way," Couch said. "The state can
try to pass some rules, but I don't really think it would do anything."
- - -

Not quite my idea for shedding the cloak of anonymity, but it's a start.
I'd love to see usenet require posters to post with their full, real
name and real ISP.

Could get costly. As a web hosting provider I would be looking for a
software package that would block all ip's from that state to any
access to my systems, just like Indonesia and China. It is a political
ploy anyway, someone looking for votes.

Just Wait A f'n minute - Doesn't a web site owner have control over what
is put up on that site? It's kind of like a moderated newsgroup. I think
legislators should be strung up for sponsoring frivolous legislation. Well,
maybe not strung up but heavily fined for wasting taxpayers money.

wrote:
On Mar 10, 4:12 pm, HK wrote:
Posted on Thu, Mar. 06, 2008
Anonymous Web postings targeted
BILL WOULD REQUIRE NAMES, ADDRESSES
By John Cheves


A bill filed in the House would keep Kentuckians from posting anonymous
comments to Web sites.

House Bill 775, filed Tuesday by Rep. Tim Couch, R-Hyden, would require
anyone who contributes to a Web site to register a real name, address
and e-mail address with that Web site. The person's full name then would
be used whenever he or she posted a comment.

Web site operators who violate the disclosure law would be fined $500
for a first offense and $1,000 for each subsequent offense.

Couch readily acknowledged on Wednesday that his bill raises First
Amendment issues regarding free speech, so he won't be pushing it. But
he wanted to call attention to the phenomenon of unkind and often untrue
comments about people being posted online by Kentuckians hiding behind
the cloak of anonymity.

"Some nasty things have been said about high school kids in my district,
usually by other kids," Couch said. "The adults get in on it, too."

"When you're anonymous, you can say anything you want to about someone,
and nobody knows who you are," he said.

Couch said he, too, has been the subject of anonymous online roasting,
and while he doesn't enjoy it, he doesn't think there's much the
legislature can do about it.

"I think right now (online posting) is pretty much just on its own. It's
a machine that's going to go its own way," Couch said. "The state can
try to pass some rules, but I don't really think it would do anything."
- - -

Not quite my idea for shedding the cloak of anonymity, but it's a start.
I'd love to see usenet require posters to post with their full, real
name and real ISP.

Could get costly. As a web hosting provider I would be looking for a
software package that would block all ip's from that state to any
access to my systems, just like Indonesia and China. It is a political
ploy anyway, someone looking for votes.

The law is unenforceable.

On Mar 10, 5:03*pm, BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 10, 4:12 pm, HK wrote:
Posted on Thu, Mar. 06, 2008
Anonymous Web postings targeted
BILL WOULD REQUIRE NAMES, ADDRESSES
By John Cheves


A bill filed in the House would keep Kentuckians from posting anonymous
comments to Web sites.

House Bill 775, filed Tuesday by Rep. Tim Couch, R-Hyden, would require
anyone who contributes to a Web site to register a real name, address
and e-mail address with that Web site. The person's full name then would
be used whenever he or she posted a comment.

Web site operators who violate the disclosure law would be fined $500
for a first offense and $1,000 for each subsequent offense.

Couch readily acknowledged on Wednesday that his bill raises First
Amendment issues regarding free speech, so he won't be pushing it. But
he wanted to call attention to the phenomenon of unkind and often untrue
comments about people being posted online by Kentuckians hiding behind
the cloak of anonymity.

"Some nasty things have been said about high school kids in my district,
usually by other kids," Couch said. "The adults get in on it, too."

"When you're anonymous, you can say anything you want to about someone,
and nobody knows who you are," he said.

Couch said he, too, has been the subject of anonymous online roasting,
and while he doesn't enjoy it, he doesn't think there's much the
legislature can do about it.

"I think right now (online posting) is pretty much just on its own. It's
a machine that's going to go its own way," Couch said. "The state can
try to pass some rules, but I don't really think it would do anything."
- - -

Not quite my idea for shedding the cloak of anonymity, but it's a start..
I'd love to see usenet require posters to post with their full, real
name and real ISP.

Could get costly. As a web hosting provider I would be looking for a
software package that would block all ip's from that state to any
access to my systems, just like Indonesia and China. It is a political
ploy anyway, someone looking for votes.

The law is unenforceable.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Unless congress goes back and changes the bar height? I would just
shut them out as best I could and count on the courts to accept our
intent and best efforts not to break the law. We have already seen
what can happen when a corrupt congress goes back and changes the
rules retroactivly, think "legal wire taps"...

wrote:
On Mar 10, 5:03 pm, BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 10, 4:12 pm, HK wrote:
Posted on Thu, Mar. 06, 2008
Anonymous Web postings targeted
BILL WOULD REQUIRE NAMES, ADDRESSES
By John Cheves

A bill filed in the House would keep Kentuckians from posting anonymous
comments to Web sites.
House Bill 775, filed Tuesday by Rep. Tim Couch, R-Hyden, would require
anyone who contributes to a Web site to register a real name, address
and e-mail address with that Web site. The person's full name then would
be used whenever he or she posted a comment.
Web site operators who violate the disclosure law would be fined $500
for a first offense and $1,000 for each subsequent offense.
Couch readily acknowledged on Wednesday that his bill raises First
Amendment issues regarding free speech, so he won't be pushing it. But
he wanted to call attention to the phenomenon of unkind and often untrue
comments about people being posted online by Kentuckians hiding behind
the cloak of anonymity.
"Some nasty things have been said about high school kids in my district,
usually by other kids," Couch said. "The adults get in on it, too."
"When you're anonymous, you can say anything you want to about someone,
and nobody knows who you are," he said.
Couch said he, too, has been the subject of anonymous online roasting,
and while he doesn't enjoy it, he doesn't think there's much the
legislature can do about it.
"I think right now (online posting) is pretty much just on its own. It's
a machine that's going to go its own way," Couch said. "The state can
try to pass some rules, but I don't really think it would do anything."
- - -
Not quite my idea for shedding the cloak of anonymity, but it's a start.
I'd love to see usenet require posters to post with their full, real
name and real ISP.
Could get costly. As a web hosting provider I would be looking for a
software package that would block all ip's from that state to any
access to my systems, just like Indonesia and China. It is a political
ploy anyway, someone looking for votes.
The law is unenforceable.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Unless congress goes back and changes the bar height? I would just
shut them out as best I could and count on the courts to accept our
intent and best efforts not to break the law. We have already seen
what can happen when a corrupt congress goes back and changes the
rules retroactivly, think "legal wire taps"...

When I stand up in the public square am I required to state my name,
address and telephone number?

HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 10, 4:12 pm, HK wrote:
Posted on Thu, Mar. 06, 2008
Anonymous Web postings targeted
BILL WOULD REQUIRE NAMES, ADDRESSES
By John Cheves


A bill filed in the House would keep Kentuckians from posting anonymous
comments to Web sites.

House Bill 775, filed Tuesday by Rep. Tim Couch, R-Hyden, would require
anyone who contributes to a Web site to register a real name, address
and e-mail address with that Web site. The person's full name then would
be used whenever he or she posted a comment.

Web site operators who violate the disclosure law would be fined $500
for a first offense and $1,000 for each subsequent offense.

Couch readily acknowledged on Wednesday that his bill raises First
Amendment issues regarding free speech, so he won't be pushing it. But
he wanted to call attention to the phenomenon of unkind and often untrue
comments about people being posted online by Kentuckians hiding behind
the cloak of anonymity.

"Some nasty things have been said about high school kids in my district,
usually by other kids," Couch said. "The adults get in on it, too."

"When you're anonymous, you can say anything you want to about someone,
and nobody knows who you are," he said.

Couch said he, too, has been the subject of anonymous online roasting,
and while he doesn't enjoy it, he doesn't think there's much the
legislature can do about it.

"I think right now (online posting) is pretty much just on its own. It's
a machine that's going to go its own way," Couch said. "The state can
try to pass some rules, but I don't really think it would do anything."
- - -

Not quite my idea for shedding the cloak of anonymity, but it's a start.
I'd love to see usenet require posters to post with their full, real
name and real ISP.

Could get costly. As a web hosting provider I would be looking for a
software package that would block all ip's from that state to any
access to my systems, just like Indonesia and China. It is a political
ploy anyway, someone looking for votes.


Well, I think getting rid of usenet anonymity is a great idea.

Harry,
Beside you telling us your name is Harry Krause, you are just as
anonymous as "Reggie". No one really knows which Harry Krause you are,
there are many in the US and what your home address and phone number is.
We really don't know for certain if your name really is Harry Krause,
or it is just a UseNet persona. If everyone had to submit to a
background check, and all of the information was in the public domain,
what would you do differently when communicating with someone in UseNet?