On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:49:11 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

"One day, high above Arizona, we were monitoring the radio traffic of
all the mortal airplanes below us. First, a Cessna pilot asked the air
traffic controllers to check his ground speed. 'Ninety knots,' ATC
replied. A twin Bonanza soon made the same request. 'One-twenty on the
ground,' was the reply. To our surprise, a navy F-18 came over the
radio with a ground speed check. I knew exactly what he was doing. Of
course, he had a ground speed indicator in his cockpit, but he wanted
to let all the bug-smashers in the valley know what real speed was
'Dusty 52, we show you at 525 on the ground,' ATC responded. The
situation was too ripe. I heard the click of Walter's mike button in
the rear seat. In his most innocent voice, Walter startled the
controller by asking for a ground speed check from 81,000 feet,
clearly above controlled airspace. In a cool, professional voice, the
controller replied, 'Aspen 20, I show you at 1,742 knots on the
ground.' We did not hear another transmission on that frequency all
the way to the coast."

http://maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com...-that-jet.html

And you can see one of those up close at the new Air and Space Museum!
--
John

"John H." wrote in message
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And you can see one of those up close at the new Air and Space Museum!
--
John



There is also one on display at the main entrance to the San Diego Air and
Space museum. That one was the first one I ever saw, other than pictures.

http://www.sandiegoairandspace.org/collections/

Eisboch

On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:07:15 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
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And you can see one of those up close at the new Air and Space Museum!
--
John



There is also one on display at the main entrance to the San Diego Air and
Space museum. That one was the first one I ever saw, other than pictures.

http://www.sandiegoairandspace.org/collections/

Eisboch


Cool. I've been to San Diego many times (30 years ago), but didn't even
know about that museum.
--
John

On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:07:15 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
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And you can see one of those up close at the new Air and Space Museum!
--
John



There is also one on display at the main entrance to the San Diego Air and
Space museum. That one was the first one I ever saw, other than pictures.

http://www.sandiegoairandspace.org/collections/

There's also one at the Air Force Armament Museum at Eglin Air Force
Base in Florida. I was there a couple of years ago. Interesting
place.

http://www.afarmamentmuseum.com/outside.shtml

Steve

On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 02:13:55 GMT, Steve wrote:

On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:07:15 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
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And you can see one of those up close at the new Air and Space Museum!
--
John



There is also one on display at the main entrance to the San Diego Air and
Space museum. That one was the first one I ever saw, other than pictures.

http://www.sandiegoairandspace.org/collections/

There's also one at the Air Force Armament Museum at Eglin Air Force
Base in Florida. I was there a couple of years ago. Interesting
place.

http://www.afarmamentmuseum.com/outside.shtml

Does Wright-Patterson still have thier museum?

I was there a long time ago - it looked pretty seedy then.

On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 02:17:31 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 02:13:55 GMT, Steve wrote:

On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:07:15 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
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And you can see one of those up close at the new Air and Space Museum!
--
John



There is also one on display at the main entrance to the San Diego Air and
Space museum. That one was the first one I ever saw, other than pictures.

http://www.sandiegoairandspace.org/collections/

There's also one at the Air Force Armament Museum at Eglin Air Force
Base in Florida. I was there a couple of years ago. Interesting
place.

http://www.afarmamentmuseum.com/outside.shtml

Does Wright-Patterson still have thier museum?

I was there a long time ago - it looked pretty seedy then.

I think Wright-Pat still has a huge museum. I've been to the base but
not to the museum. I'll have to make a trip out there sometime. I
like the one at Eglin though, because you can get right up to the
planes. Other places have them roped off somehow.

Steve

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 02:13:55 GMT, Steve wrote:

On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:07:15 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
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And you can see one of those up close at the new Air and Space Museum!
--
John



There is also one on display at the main entrance to the San Diego Air
and
Space museum. That one was the first one I ever saw, other than
pictures.

http://www.sandiegoairandspace.org/collections/

There's also one at the Air Force Armament Museum at Eglin Air Force
Base in Florida. I was there a couple of years ago. Interesting
place.

http://www.afarmamentmuseum.com/outside.shtml

Does Wright-Patterson still have thier museum?

I was there a long time ago - it looked pretty seedy then.

Very nice museum last time I was there which was about 1976. In 1964, was a
little place and the B-36 wing sheltered the smaller planes.

On Mar 9, 8:07*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"John H." wrote in message

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And you can see one of those up close at the new Air and Space Museum!
--
John

There is also one on display at the main entrance to the San Diego Air and
Space museum. *That one was the first one I ever saw, other than pictures.

http://www.sandiegoairandspace.org/collections/

Eisboch

I was watching a doc. on some Marvel Channel, abotu the blackbird, and
it was fascenating to hear that pilots were asked why they didnt' ahve
any armaments. "Well, when you're flying higher and faster than a
missle can reach you, then what would be the point? Besides, we're
flying faster than a 30.06 calibre bullet, so a gun would be usless."

*gulp*

On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:20:41 -0500, John H.
wrote:

And you can see one of those up close at the new Air and Space Museum!

I was just there. Here's a few pics of the SR-71 they have the

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sss_udv...81139456/show/

It's a tough place to photograph since it's kind of dark in a lot of
areas. If you're interested in seeing more pics from there, here they
a

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sss_udvar_hazy/show/

These pictures capture only a small percentage of what's there. It's
well worth the trip for any aviation buff.

Steve

On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 02:01:12 GMT, Steve wrote:

On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:20:41 -0500, John H.
wrote:

And you can see one of those up close at the new Air and Space Museum!

I was just there. Here's a few pics of the SR-71 they have the

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sss_udv...81139456/show/

It's a tough place to photograph since it's kind of dark in a lot of
areas. If you're interested in seeing more pics from there, here they
a

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sss_udvar_hazy/show/

These pictures capture only a small percentage of what's there. It's
well worth the trip for any aviation buff.

If you are ever in New England, a must see if you are into aircraft is
the New England Air Museum in East Granby, CT at Bradley
International.

http://www.neam.org/exhibits/collections.asp

Some really interesting aircraft and engines there - mostly restored
and operational WWII aircraft.