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On Mar 8, 3:51*pm, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 12:57:09 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Mar 8, 2:32*pm, "D&LBusch" wrote: I have a 26" Donzi with a 5.7 Merc. *The Previous owner had a dual battery system. *One Deep Cycle one regular. *It's time to replace them. *Is a Deep cycle battery necessary or can I go with two regular batteries? Thanks in advance. David regular. I don't know why he used deep cycle to begin with, unless he was possible using one on the cabin side so it could be drained flat and recharged. Or for some reason was using a trolling motor. regular ought to do you fine. The Key West came with a deep cycle. The Proline came with two regulars. I don't know why that is, but that's the way it is. I don't, and won't, have a trolling motor on the Key West, so don't know why it came the way it did. Maybe the manufacturers just consider it an upgrade or sorts? -- John Could be John. I have two bat. on my 23' marquis, just regular ol' $29.95 L-cheapo's. one is the cabin bat. one is engine. through my own design battery isolator, and unless the engine is running it seperates both batteries. running the 500w stereo, the wife's TV and I 've got 8 headlights I've rigged on a pole for night swimming. I've run the cabin bat. close to flat dead, and it recharges well. I really don't see any need for a deep-cycle battery. Evidently different engineers have different ideas. I have my own ideas, but they don't listen to me. Maybe for the better. |
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![]() "Tim" wrote in message ... Could be John. I have two bat. on my 23' marquis, just regular ol' $29.95 L-cheapo's. one is the cabin bat. one is engine. through my own design battery isolator, and unless the engine is running it seperates both batteries. running the 500w stereo, the wife's TV and I 've got 8 headlights I've rigged on a pole for night swimming. I've run the cabin bat. close to flat dead, and it recharges well. I really don't see any need for a deep-cycle battery. Evidently different engineers have different ideas. I have my own ideas, but they don't listen to me. Maybe for the better. --------------------------- I've been seeing more and more batteries that are so-called "combination", meaning deep cycle/starting. I always used one deep cycle as the "house" battery and a regular battery as the "start" battery. If sitting at the dock or at anchor for an extended period of time with the engine off, listening to the radio and/or watching the fish finder, I'd switch over to the deep cycle. When ready to start up, I'd switch to the "regular" or "both". But, it's been a while since I had a boat set up this way. Things may have changed over the years. Eisboch |
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That's how I have mine set up as well. Regular for starting, and deep cycle
for everything else. Seems to work for me. --Mike "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message ... Could be John. I have two bat. on my 23' marquis, just regular ol' $29.95 L-cheapo's. one is the cabin bat. one is engine. through my own design battery isolator, and unless the engine is running it seperates both batteries. running the 500w stereo, the wife's TV and I 've got 8 headlights I've rigged on a pole for night swimming. I've run the cabin bat. close to flat dead, and it recharges well. I really don't see any need for a deep-cycle battery. Evidently different engineers have different ideas. I have my own ideas, but they don't listen to me. Maybe for the better. --------------------------- I've been seeing more and more batteries that are so-called "combination", meaning deep cycle/starting. I always used one deep cycle as the "house" battery and a regular battery as the "start" battery. If sitting at the dock or at anchor for an extended period of time with the engine off, listening to the radio and/or watching the fish finder, I'd switch over to the deep cycle. When ready to start up, I'd switch to the "regular" or "both". But, it's been a while since I had a boat set up this way. Things may have changed over the years. Eisboch |
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On Mar 8, 9:39*pm, "Mike" wrote:
That's how I have mine set up as well. Regular for starting, and deep cycle for everything else. Seems to work for me. --Mike "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message ... Could be John. I have two bat. on my 23' marquis, just regular ol' $29.95 L-cheapo's. one is the cabin bat. one is engine. *through my own design battery isolator, and unless the engine is running it seperates both batteries. running the 500w stereo, the wife's TV and I 've *got 8 headlights I've rigged on a pole *for night swimming. I've run the cabin bat. close to flat dead, and it recharges well. *I really don't see any need for a deep-cycle battery. Evidently different engineers have different ideas. I have my own ideas, but they don't listen to me. Maybe for the better. --------------------------- I've been seeing more and more batteries that are so-called "combination", meaning deep cycle/starting. I always used one deep cycle as the "house" battery and a regular battery as the "start" battery. If sitting at the dock or at anchor for an extended period of time with the engine off, listening to the radio and/or watching the fish finder, I'd switch over to the deep cycle. When ready to start up, I'd switch to the "regular" *or "both". But, it's been a while since I had a boat set up this way. *Things may have changed over the years. Eisboch- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I think the OP was wondering if it was actually practical to pay the extra for a deep cycle, or possibly not having deep cycle batteries readily available. from my experience, I think the OP would do fine with a couple car jobs, myself. |
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I think the OP was wondering if it was actually practical to pay the
extra for a deep cycle, or possibly not having deep cycle batteries readily available. from my experience, I think the OP would do fine with a couple car jobs, myself. I don't necessarily disagree. However I do find myself on the water often with engines off, and tunes on (decent sound system)... far more than I do in my truck. For that reason, I think a deep cycle *may* be worth the extra money. YMMV. --Mike "Tim" wrote in message ... On Mar 8, 9:39 pm, "Mike" wrote: That's how I have mine set up as well. Regular for starting, and deep cycle for everything else. Seems to work for me. --Mike "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message ... Could be John. I have two bat. on my 23' marquis, just regular ol' $29.95 L-cheapo's. one is the cabin bat. one is engine. through my own design battery isolator, and unless the engine is running it seperates both batteries. running the 500w stereo, the wife's TV and I 've got 8 headlights I've rigged on a pole for night swimming. I've run the cabin bat. close to flat dead, and it recharges well. I really don't see any need for a deep-cycle battery. Evidently different engineers have different ideas. I have my own ideas, but they don't listen to me. Maybe for the better. --------------------------- I've been seeing more and more batteries that are so-called "combination", meaning deep cycle/starting. I always used one deep cycle as the "house" battery and a regular battery as the "start" battery. If sitting at the dock or at anchor for an extended period of time with the engine off, listening to the radio and/or watching the fish finder, I'd switch over to the deep cycle. When ready to start up, I'd switch to the "regular" or "both". But, it's been a while since I had a boat set up this way. Things may have changed over the years. Eisboch- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I think the OP was wondering if it was actually practical to pay the extra for a deep cycle, or possibly not having deep cycle batteries readily available. from my experience, I think the OP would do fine with a couple car jobs, myself. |
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![]() "Mike" wrote in message . net... I think the OP was wondering if it was actually practical to pay the extra for a deep cycle, or possibly not having deep cycle batteries readily available. from my experience, I think the OP would do fine with a couple car jobs, myself. I don't necessarily disagree. However I do find myself on the water often with engines off, and tunes on (decent sound system)... far more than I do in my truck. For that reason, I think a deep cycle *may* be worth the extra money. YMMV. --Mike "Tim" wrote in message ... On Mar 8, 9:39 pm, "Mike" wrote: That's how I have mine set up as well. Regular for starting, and deep cycle for everything else. Seems to work for me. --Mike "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message ... Could be John. I have two bat. on my 23' marquis, just regular ol' $29.95 L-cheapo's. one is the cabin bat. one is engine. through my own design battery isolator, and unless the engine is running it seperates both batteries. running the 500w stereo, the wife's TV and I 've got 8 headlights I've rigged on a pole for night swimming. I've run the cabin bat. close to flat dead, and it recharges well. I really don't see any need for a deep-cycle battery. Evidently different engineers have different ideas. I have my own ideas, but they don't listen to me. Maybe for the better. --------------------------- I've been seeing more and more batteries that are so-called "combination", meaning deep cycle/starting. I always used one deep cycle as the "house" battery and a regular battery as the "start" battery. If sitting at the dock or at anchor for an extended period of time with the engine off, listening to the radio and/or watching the fish finder, I'd switch over to the deep cycle. When ready to start up, I'd switch to the "regular" or "both". But, it's been a while since I had a boat set up this way. Things may have changed over the years. Eisboch- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I think the OP was wondering if it was actually practical to pay the extra for a deep cycle, or possibly not having deep cycle batteries readily available. from my experience, I think the OP would do fine with a couple car jobs, myself. Battery selection is a personal thing. Understanding what the characteristics of each wet cell battery type can help you decide what you want. Generally it is best to stick with one type if they are both going to be charged with a single output alternator or charger. They will both receive a fuller charge that way. Automotive batteries are designed to give up spurts of high energy and recover quickly. Deep cycle batteries can deliver lesser amounts of energy over a longer time period. Combination batteries are a compromise between the other types. When you know which type you want select which brand you want by weighing your potential selections. Heavier is usually better. The OP who designed the automatic combiner has the right idea. KISS rules. No need to worry about switch positions. Diode combiners sort of do the same thing as automatic combiners, BUT you lose one volt due to diode losses. That's huge when you are talking battery capacity. Surette has a nice tutorial on the web, if you want to know the science. |
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On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 18:06:22 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message ... Could be John. I have two bat. on my 23' marquis, just regular ol' $29.95 L-cheapo's. one is the cabin bat. one is engine. through my own design battery isolator, and unless the engine is running it seperates both batteries. running the 500w stereo, the wife's TV and I 've got 8 headlights I've rigged on a pole for night swimming. I've run the cabin bat. close to flat dead, and it recharges well. I really don't see any need for a deep-cycle battery. Evidently different engineers have different ideas. I have my own ideas, but they don't listen to me. Maybe for the better. --------------------------- I've been seeing more and more batteries that are so-called "combination", meaning deep cycle/starting. I always used one deep cycle as the "house" battery and a regular battery as the "start" battery. If sitting at the dock or at anchor for an extended period of time with the engine off, listening to the radio and/or watching the fish finder, I'd switch over to the deep cycle. When ready to start up, I'd switch to the "regular" or "both". But, it's been a while since I had a boat set up this way. Things may have changed over the years. Eisboch The *really* important thing is that my new charger handles the deep cycle battery very nicely! -- John |
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