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Chuck Gould wrote:
On Feb 26, 8:06�am, hkrause wrote:
BAR wrote:
hkrause wrote:
Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
I'm not at all sure he's not just an empty suit with a good speil.
You mean, as opposed to Bush, an empty suit who is also embarrassingly
inarticulate? � :)
Public speaking is not an identifier of character and integrity and vision.
That's ok...Bush has no character, integrity or vision either. He is
*the* empty suit. The guy is a bozo, the worst president in this
nation's history.

Are you overlooking Millard Fillmore?

(Maybe Fillmore was just the most forgettable.)


I'll be glad to qualify my statement to state that Bush is the worst
president the United States has had in office since I have been alive.
No one even comes close to his horrific-ness.

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:44:45 -0500, BAR wrote:

Does it bother you in any way to know that McCain graduated number 894
out of 899 in his class at the naval academy? It could be posited that
he graduated that high due to his Admiral father and Admiral
grand-father? The real question is why wasn't he thrown out due to his
disciplinary problems? Oh, wait a minute, it was because of his Admiral
Admiral ancestry.


What was your class standing at the Naval Academy?

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Chuck Gould wrote:
On Feb 26, 8:35�am, "John" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

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The rough guesstimate of an undecided independent:

McCain: Most "presidential" of the batch, has an encouraging history
of not automatically toeing the party line. Represents "politics as
usual", but with a guy at the helm a bit more independent than the
current prez and less susceptible to being manipulated by his
advisors.
************************

Most presidential????
Have you forgotten about the Keating Five?????
McCain considered Keating a friend - in the best republican tradition....

No I haven't forgotten about the Keating Five. McCain's involvement
was
peripheral.

Yes, of the three candidates still effectively standing John McCain
appears to be the most presidential at this time. Doesn't make him the
most presidential person in the country, merely the most presidential
of the three.

Hillary is damaging herself, badly, with this week's attacks on Obama.
She can be such a jerk. The attacks of course say much more about what
sort of person she is than what sort of person Obama might be.
She represents the same old corrupted, sold out, traditional political
game playing we have endured for the last couple of decades. No change
of course with her at all, just a change in party and gender.

Obama is mesmerizing his audiences with rhetoric. He's one of the best
orators to trek down the presidential trail in quite a while, IMO
surpassing even BJ Clinton in this respect. But once he gets our
attention with a brilliantly orchestrated fanfare, what's next? Oh,
look- yet another fanfare! Obama needs to find the courage to take a
stand on more issues.

It's hard to pick an outstanding candidate from among the three- but
anything will be better than what we have endured for the last 7
years.
About 70% of the country is eager to see GWB retire to Crawford.

Obama and McCain are two of the best choices we have had in a long time.
Hillary is be a disaster. I can't believe no one in the press has made
an issue of Bill selling pardons. I can just imagine how many pardons
Hillary could sell with Bill selling them over the internet.

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BAR wrote:
hkrause wrote:
Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:


I'm not at all sure he's not just an empty suit with a good speil.


You mean, as opposed to Bush, an empty suit who is also embarrassingly
inarticulate? :)

Public speaking is not an identifier of character and integrity and vision.


You are correct, but it would be hard for anyone to screw up more than
Bush.

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hkrause wrote:
JimH wrote:
"hkrause" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Feb 26, 8:21 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:05:27 -0500, John H.





wrote:
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:21:30 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:00:16 -0500, John H.
wrote:
Nader is my man!
Take a trip to Winstead, CT and ask about Ralph Nader.
Report back when you are finished.
If you leave alive and not dismembered by the irate citizens of
their
fair city when rendering their opinions on Raplhie boy. :)
Tom, if Nader screws the Democrat pooch, then he's my man -
regardless of
the folks in Winstead!
Hey - I'm just sayin'... :)

Nader isn't going to have any imact on this election except for taking
out the fringe element and there is always that .00001% who will vote
for the fringe candidate.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
You don't consider the most liberal, and third most liberal in
congress, fringe candidates?? I think nearly half the country will
vote for a fringe candidate this time around...

If you are referring to Hillary and Obama, I don't believe either of
them are liberal enough, but either is fine with me as POTUS. It is
going to take some doing to undo the damage Bush has done to this
country and the world.

What damage would that be Harry and how will Hilarity or Hussein Obama
undo it?


Jim, the list of the damage the Bush Admin has done to this country is
almost endless. Either Clinton or Obama with a *working* Democratic
majority in Congress can start to turn things around.

Itemize the list for us Dumb Foch's.

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hkrause wrote:
BAR wrote:
hkrause wrote:
Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:


I'm not at all sure he's not just an empty suit with a good speil.


You mean, as opposed to Bush, an empty suit who is also
embarrassingly inarticulate? :)

Public speaking is not an identifier of character and integrity and
vision.



That's ok...Bush has no character, integrity or vision either. He is
*the* empty suit. The guy is a bozo, the worst president in this
nation's history.

Didn't he graduate from two ivy league schools, where you didn't even
attend an ivy league school.

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JimH wrote:
"hkrause" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"hkrause" wrote in message
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wrote:
On Feb 26, 8:21 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:05:27 -0500, John H.





wrote:
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:21:30 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:00:16 -0500, John H.
wrote:
Nader is my man!
Take a trip to Winstead, CT and ask about Ralph Nader.
Report back when you are finished.
If you leave alive and not dismembered by the irate citizens of
their
fair city when rendering their opinions on Raplhie boy. :)
Tom, if Nader screws the Democrat pooch, then he's my man -
regardless of
the folks in Winstead!
Hey - I'm just sayin'... :)

Nader isn't going to have any imact on this election except for taking
out the fringe element and there is always that .00001% who will vote
for the fringe candidate.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
You don't consider the most liberal, and third most liberal in
congress, fringe candidates?? I think nearly half the country will
vote for a fringe candidate this time around...
If you are referring to Hillary and Obama, I don't believe either of
them are liberal enough, but either is fine with me as POTUS. It is
going to take some doing to undo the damage Bush has done to this
country and the world.
What damage would that be Harry and how will Hilarity or Hussein Obama
undo it?
Jim, the list of the damage the Bush Admin has done to this country is
almost endless. Either Clinton or Obama with a *working* Democratic
majority in Congress can start to turn things around.

So give me a dozen examples and then explain the plans to fix that damage.



He can't do that, it would be painting himself into a corner.
Liberal/Progressives/Independent Moderates will never give you a plan
for fixing anything. They thrive on the educational model of outcome
based education, where you should be happy with with you end up with
even if it didn't fix the problem.

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On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:09:52 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I have my reasons which, oddly, have nothing to do with his politics
and has more to do with him as a person.

Long story - might tell it sometime.


We're you a POW also ?

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hkrause wrote:
JimH wrote:
"hkrause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"hkrause" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Feb 26, 8:21 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:05:27 -0500, John H.





wrote:
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:21:30 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:00:16 -0500, John H.
wrote:
Nader is my man!
Take a trip to Winstead, CT and ask about Ralph Nader.
Report back when you are finished.
If you leave alive and not dismembered by the irate citizens of
their
fair city when rendering their opinions on Raplhie boy. :)
Tom, if Nader screws the Democrat pooch, then he's my man -
regardless of
the folks in Winstead!
Hey - I'm just sayin'... :)

Nader isn't going to have any imact on this election except for
taking
out the fringe element and there is always that .00001% who will
vote
for the fringe candidate.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
You don't consider the most liberal, and third most liberal in
congress, fringe candidates?? I think nearly half the country will
vote for a fringe candidate this time around...
If you are referring to Hillary and Obama, I don't believe either
of them are liberal enough, but either is fine with me as POTUS. It
is going to take some doing to undo the damage Bush has done to
this country and the world.
What damage would that be Harry and how will Hilarity or Hussein
Obama undo it?
Jim, the list of the damage the Bush Admin has done to this country
is almost endless. Either Clinton or Obama with a *working*
Democratic majority in Congress can start to turn things around.

So give me a dozen examples and then explain the plans to fix that
damage.


You know how to google...go for it. And just to keep it light:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFCxpuHWMy0

That is a chicken **** response Harry, you are not Dougie.

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hkrause wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:44:45 -0500, BAR wrote:

Does it bother you in any way to know that McCain graduated number
894 out of 899 in his class at the naval academy? It could be posited
that he graduated that high due to his Admiral father and Admiral
grand-father? The real question is why wasn't he thrown out due to
his disciplinary problems? Oh, wait a minute, it was because of his
Admiral Admiral ancestry.


What was your class standing at the Naval Academy?

Mine or Tom's?

If I had wanted to attend it would have been a formality. Having a
father and two war hero grandfathers I would have gotten in easily.

I decided that I would rather go my own way in life.