Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 

On Feb 21, 9:44*am, "William Bruce" wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
I can just hear -barely- the Republicans whining this fall that "we're not
in a recession, everything is fine, the rich are still rich, and the
barely employed and unemployed and homeless don't matter."

Harry, since you brought up the subject of employment, I'm curious. *Are you
still able to furnish those fabulous benefits for all your employees?

From a prior Harry Krause posting:

I'm doing my part to ease unemployment. I'm hiring another writer *for my
staff..
I need more staff because 2004 is a major election year and business

* booked to date indicates we'll be drowning in work. We need to hire a
* production coordinator, too. It has very little to do with the state of
* the economy, other than using it as reason to defeat Republicrap
* candidates.

* We have first-class benefits, including a top-of-the-line health
* insurance plan, a non-contributory defined-benefit pension plan, a 401k,
* and a life insurance policy equal to annual salary. We contribute a
* share of profits to the 401k on behalf of the employee. Our employees
* pay $4.50 for generic prescriptions and $8.00 for non-generics, but
* that's going up next year to $10 and $15. New employees get two weeks
* vacation the first year, and that goes to three weeks the third year.. In
* addition, we have 12 paid holidays and we shut down from noon on
* Christmas eve to the day after New Year's Day. We also provide 20 days
* of paid sick leave a year. And we have an outside company administering
* pre-tax flexible bennies for our employees.
* Our fringe benefit package follows the trade union model, except, of
* course, for the profit contributions to 401k's. Trade unions are
* not-for-profit enterprises.
* How do these compare to the bennies at your shop?
*
* The 20 paid sick days aren't part of the "paid" days off unless those
* days are used. None of our people abuses sick leave. In fact, no one as
* yet has even come close to using 20 sick days in one year. They're there
* in case they're needed.

* Oh, I forgot. We also provide everyone with LTD.
*
* The company provides an insurance plan that pays 50% of an employe's
* salary for Long Term Disability. *Employes have the option of purchasing
* an additional 16.66%, bringing their total to 66.66%. *The basic benefit
* maximum is $4,000 per month. *With the buy up, the limit is increased to
* $10,000 per month.

Wow, quite a story, Here let me tell one.. . There were these three
bears and one golden haired chick out in the woods......;)

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 

On Feb 21, 9:51*am, wrote:
On Feb 21, 9:44*am, "William Bruce" wrote:





Harry Krause wrote:
I can just hear -barely- the Republicans whining this fall that "we're not
in a recession, everything is fine, the rich are still rich, and the
barely employed and unemployed and homeless don't matter."

Harry, since you brought up the subject of employment, I'm curious. *Are you
still able to furnish those fabulous benefits for all your employees?

From a prior Harry Krause posting:

I'm doing my part to ease unemployment. I'm hiring another writer *for my
staff..
I need more staff because 2004 is a major election year and business

* booked to date indicates we'll be drowning in work. We need to hire a
* production coordinator, too. It has very little to do with the state of
* the economy, other than using it as reason to defeat Republicrap
* candidates.

* We have first-class benefits, including a top-of-the-line health
* insurance plan, a non-contributory defined-benefit pension plan, a 401k,
* and a life insurance policy equal to annual salary. We contribute a
* share of profits to the 401k on behalf of the employee. Our employees
* pay $4.50 for generic prescriptions and $8.00 for non-generics, but
* that's going up next year to $10 and $15. New employees get two weeks
* vacation the first year, and that goes to three weeks the third year. In
* addition, we have 12 paid holidays and we shut down from noon on
* Christmas eve to the day after New Year's Day. We also provide 20 days
* of paid sick leave a year. And we have an outside company administering
* pre-tax flexible bennies for our employees.
* Our fringe benefit package follows the trade union model, except, of
* course, for the profit contributions to 401k's. Trade unions are
* not-for-profit enterprises.
* How do these compare to the bennies at your shop?
*
* The 20 paid sick days aren't part of the "paid" days off unless those
* days are used. None of our people abuses sick leave. In fact, no one as
* yet has even come close to using 20 sick days in one year. They're there
* in case they're needed.

* Oh, I forgot. We also provide everyone with LTD.
*
* The company provides an insurance plan that pays 50% of an employe's
* salary for Long Term Disability. *Employes have the option of purchasing
* an additional 16.66%, bringing their total to 66.66%. *The basic benefit
* maximum is $4,000 per month. *With the buy up, the limit is increased to
* $10,000 per month.

Wow, quite a story, Here let me tell one.. . There were these three
bears and one golden haired chick out in the woods......;)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

it's almost as believable as a
Zimmerman like lobster boat
His Yale Degree
His Dr. Dr. wife
His father boating across the Atlantic and getting a fireboat welcome
in NY city
His solo around the horn
His sailing from S.F. to Hawaii
His father's largest marina in the northeast
His working with Prescott Bush
and on and on.....

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 

"William Bruce" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
I can just hear -barely- the Republicans whining this fall that "we're
not in a recession, everything is fine, the rich are still rich, and the
barely employed and unemployed and homeless don't matter."

Harry, since you brought up the subject of employment, I'm curious. Are
you still able to furnish those fabulous benefits for all your employees?

From a prior Harry Krause posting:
I'm doing my part to ease unemployment. I'm hiring another writer for my
staff..


I need more staff because 2004 is a major election year and business
booked to date indicates we'll be drowning in work. We need to hire a
production coordinator, too. It has very little to do with the state of
the economy, other than using it as reason to defeat Republicrap
candidates.


We have first-class benefits, including a top-of-the-line health
insurance plan, a non-contributory defined-benefit pension plan, a
401k,
and a life insurance policy equal to annual salary. We contribute a
share of profits to the 401k on behalf of the employee. Our employees
pay $4.50 for generic prescriptions and $8.00 for non-generics, but
that's going up next year to $10 and $15. New employees get two weeks
vacation the first year, and that goes to three weeks the third year.
In
addition, we have 12 paid holidays and we shut down from noon on
Christmas eve to the day after New Year's Day. We also provide 20 days
of paid sick leave a year. And we have an outside company administering
pre-tax flexible bennies for our employees.
Our fringe benefit package follows the trade union model, except, of
course, for the profit contributions to 401k's. Trade unions are
not-for-profit enterprises.
How do these compare to the bennies at your shop?

The 20 paid sick days aren't part of the "paid" days off unless those
days are used. None of our people abuses sick leave. In fact, no one as
yet has even come close to using 20 sick days in one year. They're
there
in case they're needed.

Oh, I forgot. We also provide everyone with LTD.

The company provides an insurance plan that pays 50% of an employe's
salary for Long Term Disability. Employes have the option of
purchasing
an additional 16.66%, bringing their total to 66.66%. The basic
benefit
maximum is $4,000 per month. With the buy up, the limit is increased
to
$10,000 per month.

Harry is a 1 man band. He doesn't have enough work to keep himself busy.
That's why he spends most of the day haunting wreck boats.

--
Harry Krause is the douchebag of political pundits. He is indeed
disgusting and nasty, and does absolutely nothing to further society.
Putting Harry in the trash is like a taking a breath of fresh air.Try it.
You might like it.

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Feb 20, 10:23 pm, Tim wrote:
On Feb 20, 7:43 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:41:16 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Feb 20, 7:33 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:18:25 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Er... crack *ho' *

What does harmonic oscillation have to do with it?

Wrong ho' , Tom

Ho Chi Minh?

Him too!

No, I actually think it was Don Ho.
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Tiny bubbles......

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...
On Feb 20, 6:07?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

...
On Feb 20, 5:13?pm, "JimH" wrote:





"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

...
On Feb 20, 4:42 pm, wf3h wrote:

On Feb 20, 7:14 pm, "JimH" wrote:

"Valgard Toebreakerson" wrote in message

.. .

Looks like things are improving.

http://tinyurl.com/2rzjn2

ABC, NBC, Air America, CBS, CNN and CNBC, along with all the liberal
owned
newspapers have been trying their hardest to convince folks we are
in
a
recession in their attempt to make one happen.

Glad to see not everyone is buying into their crap.

funny that the secretary of the treasury and the fed chairman...both
liberal commie radicals appointed by bush...thought the economy was in
danger of recession as well.

stupid marxists.

Funnier still how certain right wing talk show personnel, making a
very handsome living by manipulating public opinion through the use of
broadcast media, are quick to condemn the "drive by media" for
attempting to influence public opinion. I mean really, how dare the
other voices in the media do such a thing?

Boils down to the same old standard. Propaganda with which one happens
to agree is useful, factual information offered solely in pursuit of
truth and in service to the public interests. Propaganda with which
one does *not* happen to agree is radical left or right wing bullcrap.

=========

The liberal left wing media is doing their best to make sure we go into
a
recession. ?Yep, they have our best interest at heart. ? ;-)

BTW: ?You recently had your shorts in a knot about folks posting here
OT,
most especially OT Political.

You seem to be doing your share of it recently Chuck?

What gives? ?Which stance do you really believe in?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I've decided that whatever this group of old codgers sitting around
the stove and trading insults is......it isn't a boating newsgroup.
That's what I believe. 75% of the participants here have no interest
in anything except trashing one another, and thereby ruining the group
as well.
===========================

Chuck, you want the group to be what you think it should be at any given
point of time. ? We are into the Presidential election season so your
posts
turn political and that is OK with you........for the moment. ? ?During
non
election years..........you throw a hissy fit about political OT posts.
?Go
figure.



Not, you missed my point entirely.

I now accept that the NG has been run into the ground by the posers,
flamers, and OT insult hurlers. It isn't going to come back.
Campaigning for this group to be about boating makes as much sense and
campaigning for it to be about crocheting or pig breeding.

Look around, darn few boaters left.

Boating related posts maybe 1 out of 10.

Average number of responses to a boating related post: 3-6
Average number of responses to a "you're a liberal a-hole" and "you're
conservative trash" exchanges: probably 60, with some running well
over 200.
===============

Those statistics probably hold true for many years...........nothing new
Chuck. We have a dozen or so non boaters here, all normally posting under
annonymous handles and most normally throwing flames/insults towards those
not agreeing with them.

I have seen your share of (oh so subtle) insults to those opposite of your
political views. I have also seen your share of OT political posts.

Glass house? Take a position Chuck.

So..........how is the restored boat running?

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 

JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...
On Feb 20, 6:07?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

...
On Feb 20, 5:13?pm, "JimH" wrote:





"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...
On Feb 20, 4:42 pm, wf3h wrote:
On Feb 20, 7:14 pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Valgard Toebreakerson" wrote in message
...
Looks like things are improving.
http://tinyurl.com/2rzjn2
ABC, NBC, Air America, CBS, CNN and CNBC, along with all the liberal
owned
newspapers have been trying their hardest to convince folks we are
in
a
recession in their attempt to make one happen.
Glad to see not everyone is buying into their crap.
funny that the secretary of the treasury and the fed chairman...both
liberal commie radicals appointed by bush...thought the economy was in
danger of recession as well.
stupid marxists.
Funnier still how certain right wing talk show personnel, making a
very handsome living by manipulating public opinion through the use of
broadcast media, are quick to condemn the "drive by media" for
attempting to influence public opinion. I mean really, how dare the
other voices in the media do such a thing?
Boils down to the same old standard. Propaganda with which one happens
to agree is useful, factual information offered solely in pursuit of
truth and in service to the public interests. Propaganda with which
one does *not* happen to agree is radical left or right wing bullcrap.
=========
The liberal left wing media is doing their best to make sure we go into
a
recession. ?Yep, they have our best interest at heart. ? ;-)
BTW: ?You recently had your shorts in a knot about folks posting here
OT,
most especially OT Political.
You seem to be doing your share of it recently Chuck?
What gives? ?Which stance do you really believe in?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I've decided that whatever this group of old codgers sitting around
the stove and trading insults is......it isn't a boating newsgroup.
That's what I believe. 75% of the participants here have no interest
in anything except trashing one another, and thereby ruining the group
as well.
===========================

Chuck, you want the group to be what you think it should be at any given
point of time. ? We are into the Presidential election season so your
posts
turn political and that is OK with you........for the moment. ? ?During
non
election years..........you throw a hissy fit about political OT posts.
?Go
figure.



Not, you missed my point entirely.

I now accept that the NG has been run into the ground by the posers,
flamers, and OT insult hurlers. It isn't going to come back.
Campaigning for this group to be about boating makes as much sense and
campaigning for it to be about crocheting or pig breeding.

Look around, darn few boaters left.

Boating related posts maybe 1 out of 10.

Average number of responses to a boating related post: 3-6
Average number of responses to a "you're a liberal a-hole" and "you're
conservative trash" exchanges: probably 60, with some running well
over 200.
===============

Those statistics probably hold true for many years...........nothing new
Chuck. We have a dozen or so non boaters here, all normally posting under
annonymous handles and most normally throwing flames/insults towards those
not agreeing with them.

I have seen your share of (oh so subtle) insults to those opposite of your
political views. I have also seen your share of OT political posts.

Glass house? Take a position Chuck.

So..........how is the restored boat running?







You can't even start a boating related post around here without one of
the Reggie-bots trashing it as quickly as possible.

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...
On Feb 20, 6:07?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

...
On Feb 20, 5:13?pm, "JimH" wrote:





"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...
On Feb 20, 4:42 pm, wf3h wrote:
On Feb 20, 7:14 pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Valgard Toebreakerson" wrote in message
...
Looks like things are improving.
http://tinyurl.com/2rzjn2
ABC, NBC, Air America, CBS, CNN and CNBC, along with all the liberal
owned
newspapers have been trying their hardest to convince folks we are in
a
recession in their attempt to make one happen.
Glad to see not everyone is buying into their crap.
funny that the secretary of the treasury and the fed chairman...both
liberal commie radicals appointed by bush...thought the economy was in
danger of recession as well.
stupid marxists.
Funnier still how certain right wing talk show personnel, making a
very handsome living by manipulating public opinion through the use of
broadcast media, are quick to condemn the "drive by media" for
attempting to influence public opinion. I mean really, how dare the
other voices in the media do such a thing?
Boils down to the same old standard. Propaganda with which one happens
to agree is useful, factual information offered solely in pursuit of
truth and in service to the public interests. Propaganda with which
one does *not* happen to agree is radical left or right wing bullcrap.
=========
The liberal left wing media is doing their best to make sure we go into
a
recession. ?Yep, they have our best interest at heart. ? ;-)
BTW: ?You recently had your shorts in a knot about folks posting here
OT,
most especially OT Political.
You seem to be doing your share of it recently Chuck?
What gives? ?Which stance do you really believe in?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I've decided that whatever this group of old codgers sitting around
the stove and trading insults is......it isn't a boating newsgroup.
That's what I believe. 75% of the participants here have no interest
in anything except trashing one another, and thereby ruining the group
as well.
===========================

Chuck, you want the group to be what you think it should be at any given
point of time. ? We are into the Presidential election season so your
posts
turn political and that is OK with you........for the moment. ? ?During
non
election years..........you throw a hissy fit about political OT posts.
?Go
figure.



Not, you missed my point entirely.

I now accept that the NG has been run into the ground by the posers,
flamers, and OT insult hurlers. It isn't going to come back.
Campaigning for this group to be about boating makes as much sense and
campaigning for it to be about crocheting or pig breeding.

Look around, darn few boaters left.

Boating related posts maybe 1 out of 10.

Average number of responses to a boating related post: 3-6
Average number of responses to a "you're a liberal a-hole" and "you're
conservative trash" exchanges: probably 60, with some running well
over 200.
===============

Those statistics probably hold true for many years...........nothing new
Chuck. We have a dozen or so non boaters here, all normally posting
under annonymous handles and most normally throwing flames/insults
towards those not agreeing with them.

I have seen your share of (oh so subtle) insults to those opposite of
your political views. I have also seen your share of OT political
posts.

Glass house? Take a position Chuck.

So..........how is the restored boat running?







You can't even start a boating related post around here without one of the
Reggie-bots trashing it as quickly as possible.

I have to be careful Harry.........if I agree with you I will be accused of
being your best bud and having sexual relations with you. :-)

This NG is/has been a virtual circus with some useful boating and other
information thrown in once and a while. We have our share of clowns
keeping us amused in between on topic and other informative discussions.

If you want entertainment...........come to rec.boats. ;-)

What else is new?

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 

John wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"JimH" wrote in message
...
On Feb 20, 4:42 pm, wf3h wrote:
On Feb 20, 7:14 pm, "JimH" wrote:

"Valgard Toebreakerson" wrote in message
...
Looks like things are improving.
http://tinyurl.com/2rzjn2
ABC, NBC, Air America, CBS, CNN and CNBC, along with all the liberal
owned
newspapers have been trying their hardest to convince folks we are
in a
recession in their attempt to make one happen.
Glad to see not everyone is buying into their crap.
funny that the secretary of the treasury and the fed chairman...both
liberal commie radicals appointed by bush...thought the economy was
in
danger of recession as well.
Do you understand the differenence between "in danger of recession"
and "in a recession"? Don't bother to answer as you obviously don't.

Why don't you explain it to us, Mr. Cement Truck Driver, or whatever it
is you do for a living?
The technical definition is a drop in GNP for two consecutive quarters.
We're close, but not there yet.


I can just hear -barely- the Republicans whining this fall that "we're
not in a recession, everything is fine, the rich are still rich, and the
barely employed and unemployed and homeless don't matter."
The same thing was going on 8 years ago when Clinton's economy tanked in
his last year.

I don't believe it is going to fly this election cycle.
The Democrat's want to tax us to prosperity, we know how that doesn't
work.


But what ever did happen to the most famous of conservatives stances on a
"balanced budget amendment"?

Earmarks and entitlements. We need to dump entitlements and make people
responsible for their own wants and needs.

Just because you fail to plan for your future shouldn't mean I have to
pay for it.

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..

Earmarks and entitlements. We need to dump entitlements and make people
responsible for their own wants and needs.

Just because you fail to plan for your future shouldn't mean I have to pay
for it.



You claim to be a christian when it suits your purposes.
Whatever happened to 'you are your brothers keeper'?

Bush approval up/Americans feel better about economy
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..

Earmarks and entitlements. We need to dump entitlements and make people
responsible for their own wants and needs.

Just because you fail to plan for your future shouldn't mean I have to
pay for it.



You claim to be a christian when it suits your purposes.
Whatever happened to 'you are your brothers keeper'?


Ever read the tale of the grasshopper and the ants?

Not to say we should not help them.........but we should not continue to
support them if they are capable of working.

The problem with govt. entitlement programs is that folks get lazy and
depend on them.

No need for anyone to live at poverty levels if they are healthy and able to
work.

Too many fat lazy ass people out their soaking the system we are paying for.