Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:48:05 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

"JimH" wrote in message
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"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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I've always been a McCain fan and if he can keep it together, he's
pretty viable as an alternative.
I also have a lot of respect for McCain. His only drawback is 25
years in the Senate.
Not me. He has a short fuse and he carries many liberal views,
including wanting to do away with waterboarding the captured
terrorists, even though even 30 seconds of doing so to high profile
terrorists resulted in tremendous information.

As you said, he is also long in the tooth and represents the same old
same old.

The Republicans did not offer any true conservative candidates this
election.
Being in favor of torture is a conservative view?

No wonder I don't like conservatives.
Serious question. I don't know much about waterboarding. Does it leave
any lasting physical or physiological effects?
Nope. It has proven to be effective within 30 seconds and has resulted in
solid information that resulted in stopping future terrorist attacks.

Torture? Nope.........but very effective according to reports on the use
of this technique on captured terrorists.
I've done some quick reading via Google and so far all I've found is
opinions that there can be lasting effects.

No offense guys, but...well, no other way to put it, it's been part of
military escape and evasion courses since the '70s.

As to "lasting effects" - eh - minor at best.


You've been waterboarded, or participated in medical research to
determine that? Or are you just pushing the party line?

"HK" wrote in message
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You've been waterboarded, or participated in medical research to determine
that? Or are you just pushing the party line?


Have you?

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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You've been waterboarded, or participated in medical research to determine
that? Or are you just pushing the party line?


Have you?

Eisboch




Nope, but I'm bright enough to realize that when someone feels as if
they are being drowned deliberately by someone else, it is torture.

Torture, according to the United Nations Convention Against Torture, is
"any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental,
is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining
from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him
for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having
committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any
reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering
is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or
acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official
capacity."