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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"John H." wrote in message


And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.

Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved
every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.

I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must
be
always
right also.

Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? If you can
find
out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H


This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can
explain
how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre
theory.


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a
different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he
ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has
a
run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H


He was taught to question and/or torment authority at exactly the
right
age
when he was able to do it successfully. He's done it quite well.


As long as daddy's right behind him.
--
John H


Whatever you say, John. However, you should contemplate your odd need to
toss 7th grade responses at people because you think it helps you "win".
When your wife returns from her "tennis lesson", ask her about your odd
behavior.


Krausish.
--
John H


Another 7th grade response! Stop obsessing about Krause.


Doug, you're the one who finds his style so worthy of emulation.
--
John H


Only in your imagination, John. I'll make you a deal: Try turning off your
television for one week, and see if that helps you come up with responses
that are worthy of an adult. Something's turning your brains to oatmeal. TV?
Old age? Lack of use?


Can't do that. I just checked out all the Ken Burns "Civil War" series.
They're due back in 7 days.

Sorry.

You are getting the responses you deserve. Actually, much more than you
deserve.
--
John H

On Feb 7, 12:52*pm, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:41:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"





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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:23:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message

And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.

Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved
every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.

I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must
be
always
right also.

Good for you.
--
John H

At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? *If you can
find
out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.

Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H

This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can
explain
how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre
theory.

This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a
different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he
ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has
a
run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H

He was taught to question and/or torment authority at exactly the
right
age
when he was able to do it successfully. He's done it quite well.

As long as daddy's right behind him.
--
John H

Whatever you say, John. However, you should contemplate your odd need to
toss 7th grade responses at people because you think it helps you "win".
When your wife returns from her "tennis lesson", ask her about your odd
behavior.

Krausish.
--
John H

Another 7th grade response! Stop obsessing about Krause.

Doug, you're the one who finds his style so worthy of emulation.
--
John H

Only in your imagination, John. I'll make you a deal: Try turning off your
television for one week, and see if that helps you come up with responses
that are worthy of an adult. Something's turning your brains to oatmeal. TV?
Old age? Lack of use?

Can't do that. I just checked out all the Ken Burns "Civil War" series.
They're due back in 7 days.

Sorry.

You are getting the responses you deserve. Actually, much more than you
deserve.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

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Fantastic set! I've watched it all on PBS at least twice, then certain
episodes more.

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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:23:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message


And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.

Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get
involved
every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.

I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he
must
be
always
right also.

Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? If you can
find
out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H


This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can
explain
how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre
theory.


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a
different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he
ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he
has
a
run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H


He was taught to question and/or torment authority at exactly the
right
age
when he was able to do it successfully. He's done it quite well.


As long as daddy's right behind him.
--
John H


Whatever you say, John. However, you should contemplate your odd need
to
toss 7th grade responses at people because you think it helps you
"win".
When your wife returns from her "tennis lesson", ask her about your
odd
behavior.


Krausish.
--
John H


Another 7th grade response! Stop obsessing about Krause.


Doug, you're the one who finds his style so worthy of emulation.
--
John H


Only in your imagination, John. I'll make you a deal: Try turning off your
television for one week, and see if that helps you come up with responses
that are worthy of an adult. Something's turning your brains to oatmeal.
TV?
Old age? Lack of use?


Can't do that. I just checked out all the Ken Burns "Civil War" series.
They're due back in 7 days.

Sorry.

You are getting the responses you deserve. Actually, much more than you
deserve.
--
John H


The brain uses more of its cognitive abilities while sleeping than when
watching TV. Go read a book.

"John H." wrote in message
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This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has a run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H


You going on about someone elses family again??
Who knows if the kid will want to be a marine or not...that's his choice.
He could always serve his country by being an army officer...hiding far from
the action while directing others to do all the dangerous dirty work.

On Feb 7, 1:06*pm, wrote:
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:23:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message

And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.

Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved
every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.

I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must
be
always
right also.

Good for you.
--
John H

At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? *If you can
find
out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.

Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H

This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can
explain
how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre
theory.

This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a
different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he
ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has
a
run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines..
--
John H

He was taught to question and/or torment authority at exactly the
right
age
when he was able to do it successfully. He's done it quite well.

As long as daddy's right behind him.
--
John H

Whatever you say, John. However, you should contemplate your odd need to
toss 7th grade responses at people because you think it helps you "win".
When your wife returns from her "tennis lesson", ask her about your odd
behavior.

Krausish.
--
John H

Another 7th grade response! Stop obsessing about Krause.

Doug, you're the one who finds his style so worthy of emulation.
--
John H

Only in your imagination, John. I'll make you a deal: Try turning off your
television for one week, and see if that helps you come up with responses
that are worthy of an adult. Something's turning your brains to oatmeal. TV?
Old age? Lack of use?

Can't do that. I just checked out all the Ken Burns "Civil War" series.
They're due back in 7 days.

Sorry.

You are getting the responses you deserve. Actually, much more than you
deserve.

Ken Burns? He's to the left of Michael Moore. Really.- Hide quoted text -

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First of all, that's pure bull****. Second of all, what does someone's
poliitcal persuasion have to do with their ability to accurately
portray events as they happened in a riveting manner?

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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:41:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:15:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:38:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:23:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message


And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.

Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get
involved
every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.

I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he
must
be
always
right also.

Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? If you can
find
out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H


This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can
explain
how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your
bizarre
theory.


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a
different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he
ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he
has
a
run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H


He was taught to question and/or torment authority at exactly the
right
age
when he was able to do it successfully. He's done it quite well.


As long as daddy's right behind him.
--
John H


Whatever you say, John. However, you should contemplate your odd need
to
toss 7th grade responses at people because you think it helps you
"win".
When your wife returns from her "tennis lesson", ask her about your
odd
behavior.


Krausish.
--
John H


Another 7th grade response! Stop obsessing about Krause.


Doug, you're the one who finds his style so worthy of emulation.
--
John H


Only in your imagination, John. I'll make you a deal: Try turning off
your
television for one week, and see if that helps you come up with responses
that are worthy of an adult. Something's turning your brains to oatmeal.
TV?
Old age? Lack of use?


Can't do that. I just checked out all the Ken Burns "Civil War" series.
They're due back in 7 days.

Sorry.

You are getting the responses you deserve. Actually, much more than you
deserve.

Ken Burns? He's to the left of Michael Moore. Really.




Yeah. His jazz documentary was a travesty of political bull****.

Sheesh.....

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On Feb 7, 1:06 pm, wrote:
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 12:52:05 -0500, John H.





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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:41:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:15:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:38:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:23:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.
Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get involved
every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.
I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he must
be
always
right also.
Good for you.
--
John H
At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? If you can
find
out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.
Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H
This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can
explain
how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your bizarre
theory.
This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a
different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did he
ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he has
a
run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the Marines.
--
John H
He was taught to question and/or torment authority at exactly the
right
age
when he was able to do it successfully. He's done it quite well.
As long as daddy's right behind him.
--
John H
Whatever you say, John. However, you should contemplate your odd need to
toss 7th grade responses at people because you think it helps you "win".
When your wife returns from her "tennis lesson", ask her about your odd
behavior.
Krausish.
--
John H
Another 7th grade response! Stop obsessing about Krause.
Doug, you're the one who finds his style so worthy of emulation.
--
John H
Only in your imagination, John. I'll make you a deal: Try turning off your
television for one week, and see if that helps you come up with responses
that are worthy of an adult. Something's turning your brains to oatmeal. TV?
Old age? Lack of use?
Can't do that. I just checked out all the Ken Burns "Civil War" series.
They're due back in 7 days.
Sorry.
You are getting the responses you deserve. Actually, much more than you
deserve.
Ken Burns? He's to the left of Michael Moore. Really.- Hide quoted text -

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First of all, that's pure bull****.

No it is not. I know him personally and have for a very long time. I
don't think he makes a practice of spouting his beliefs every time
there is a camera in front of him like many other celebrities, but
he's pretty far to the left. I was surprised when he publically
endorsed Obama - both because he usually keeps these thngs to himself,
and because Obama is pretty conservative compared to Where Ken's
thoughts reside.


Second of all, what does someone's
poliitcal persuasion have to do with their ability to accurately
portray events as they happened in a riveting manner?

Oh, you don't know what the word "documentary" means? I'll give you a
hint: It's pretty hard to find one that DOESN'T have a point of view
behind it.

Historical accounts in any form are pretty subjective. There was a
teacher in our local High School who got in a bit of trouble for
teaching 10th graders the history of the American Revolution from the
standpoint of the British.




You mean, when our ancestors here were insurgents?

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Ken Burns? He's to the left of Michael Moore. Really.- Hide quoted
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First of all, that's pure bull****.

No it is not. I know him personally and have for a very long time. I
don't think he makes a practice of spouting his beliefs every time
there is a camera in front of him like many other celebrities, but
he's pretty far to the left. I was surprised when he publically
endorsed Obama - both because he usually keeps these thngs to himself,
and because Obama is pretty conservative compared to Where Ken's
thoughts reside.


It is often said that most artistic types are liberals, and that's probably
a good thing. Otherwise, all our museums would either be closed down, or
filled with nothing but football memorabilia and military collectibles.

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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:19:40 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message


And you complain that your kid won't do chores when told.

Did he ever learn to fight his own battles? Do you get
involved
every
time
he disagrees with a teacher.

I guess so. You're always right, and you taught him, so he
must
be
always
right also.

Good for you.
--
John H


At 11, would you let YOUR kids talk back to adults? If you
can
find
out
where your kids live, ask them if they remember.


Doug, has your kid been 11 all his life?
--
John H


This is about one week, one summer, one year. But, if you can
explain
how
you came up with "all his life", maybe I'll entertain your
bizarre
theory.


This is the example you've chosen for now. Last week it was a
different
one, the week before a different one. My question remains, did
he
ever
learn to fight his own battles? Will you be there every time he
has
a
run
in with authority? Sure hope to hell he doesn't join the
Marines.
--
John H


He was taught to question and/or torment authority at exactly the
right
age
when he was able to do it successfully. He's done it quite well.


As long as daddy's right behind him.
--
John H


Whatever you say, John. However, you should contemplate your odd
need
to
toss 7th grade responses at people because you think it helps you
"win".
When your wife returns from her "tennis lesson", ask her about your
odd
behavior.


Krausish.
--
John H


Another 7th grade response! Stop obsessing about Krause.


Doug, you're the one who finds his style so worthy of emulation.
--
John H


Only in your imagination, John. I'll make you a deal: Try turning off
your
television for one week, and see if that helps you come up with
responses
that are worthy of an adult. Something's turning your brains to
oatmeal.
TV?
Old age? Lack of use?


Can't do that. I just checked out all the Ken Burns "Civil War" series.
They're due back in 7 days.

Sorry.

You are getting the responses you deserve. Actually, much more than you
deserve.

Ken Burns? He's to the left of Michael Moore. Really.




Yeah. His jazz documentary was a travesty of political bull****.

Sheesh.....


Are you really this simple minded?

I didn't say that all documentries have a political focus, did I? You
can be sure the Jazz documentary expressed a definite viewpoint on the
subject, and probably parts of it DID convey a political viewpoint, as
segregation was a political issue in addition to a moral one.




I'm reminded at the moment of someone in another newsgroup who said he
doesn't read books. He gave several reasons for this, the goofiest of which
was that "All authors are biased." So, he's gone all his life without
reading books.

I'm not saying you're like that (books), just addressing the unavoidable
issue of a biased viewpoint.

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Ken Burns? He's to the left of Michael Moore. Really.- Hide quoted
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First of all, that's pure bull****.

No it is not. I know him personally and have for a very long time. I
don't think he makes a practice of spouting his beliefs every time
there is a camera in front of him like many other celebrities, but
he's pretty far to the left. I was surprised when he publically
endorsed Obama - both because he usually keeps these thngs to himself,
and because Obama is pretty conservative compared to Where Ken's
thoughts reside.


It is often said that most artistic types are liberals, and that's
probably
a good thing. Otherwise, all our museums would either be closed down, or
filled with nothing but football memorabilia and military collectibles.


It is often said that generalizations are usually faulty in some
regard.



Generally, yes. :-)