Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm

http://www.contender.com/boats.aspx?id=458

http://www.regulatormarine.com/32fs.html#javascirpt

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm

http://www.contender.com/boats.aspx?id=458

http://www.regulatormarine.com/32fs.html#javascirpt



Wouldn't sell it to you with the six etecs, eh?

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

On Feb 2, 3:55*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm

http://www.contender.com/boats.aspx?id=458

http://www.regulatormarine.com/32fs.html#javascirpt

So, what the hell do you want in a boat anyway? You got the Capehorn
with the big open, well, open, and real high sides. You got the
regulator, which I actually like better, then you got one with a
little fishing deck and bunks for 4?? I would want some kind of
shelter in an off shore boat, just in case, but I would still like to
tow without permits. I like this boat, not that it matters.
http://www.contender.com/boats.aspx?id=488
The Regulator looks like a nice hull too but it seems pretty shallow
in the ass end. Not the deep Vee I would expect in an offshore boat.
But then again I don't know from offshore boats...

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 14:51:44 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Feb 2, 3:55*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm

http://www.contender.com/boats.aspx?id=458

http://www.regulatormarine.com/32fs.html#javascirpt

So, what the hell do you want in a boat anyway? You got the Capehorn
with the big open, well, open, and real high sides. You got the
regulator, which I actually like better, then you got one with a
little fishing deck and bunks for 4?? I would want some kind of
shelter in an off shore boat, just in case, but I would still like to
tow without permits. I like this boat, not that it matters.
http://www.contender.com/boats.aspx?id=488
The Regulator looks like a nice hull too but it seems pretty shallow
in the ass end. Not the deep Vee I would expect in an offshore boat.
But then again I don't know from offshore boats...

Thanks for your input.

You want to come up and look at the garage for your shop next week?

Like maybe Tueday?

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

wrote:
On Feb 2, 3:55 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm

http://www.contender.com/boats.aspx?id=458

http://www.regulatormarine.com/32fs.html#javascirpt

So, what the hell do you want in a boat anyway? You got the Capehorn
with the big open, well, open, and real high sides. You got the
regulator, which I actually like better, then you got one with a
little fishing deck and bunks for 4?? I would want some kind of
shelter in an off shore boat, just in case, but I would still like to
tow without permits. I like this boat, not that it matters.
http://www.contender.com/boats.aspx?id=488
The Regulator looks like a nice hull too but it seems pretty shallow
in the ass end. Not the deep Vee I would expect in an offshore boat.
But then again I don't know from offshore boats...


I think he should look at the new 27' Carolina Skiff. Suits Tom to a T.

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 23:05:44 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 14:51:44 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Feb 2, 3:55*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm

http://www.contender.com/boats.aspx?id=458

http://www.regulatormarine.com/32fs.html#javascirpt

So, what the hell do you want in a boat anyway? You got the Capehorn
with the big open, well, open, and real high sides. You got the
regulator, which I actually like better, then you got one with a
little fishing deck and bunks for 4?? I would want some kind of
shelter in an off shore boat, just in case, but I would still like to
tow without permits. I like this boat, not that it matters.
http://www.contender.com/boats.aspx?id=488
The Regulator looks like a nice hull too but it seems pretty shallow
in the ass end. Not the deep Vee I would expect in an offshore boat.
But then again I don't know from offshore boats...

Thanks for your input.

You want to come up and look at the garage for your shop next week?

Like maybe Tueday?

The Regulator gets my vote, based on looks.
--
John H

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

On Feb 2, 6:05*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 14:51:44 -0800 (PST),





wrote:
On Feb 2, 3:55*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm

http://www.contender.com/boats.aspx?id=458

http://www.regulatormarine.com/32fs.html#javascirpt

So, what the hell do you want in a boat anyway? You got the Capehorn
with the big open, well, open, and real high sides. You got the
regulator, which I actually like better, then you got one with a
little fishing deck and bunks for 4?? I would want some kind of
shelter in an off shore boat, just in case, but I would still like to
tow without permits. I like this boat, not that it matters.
http://www.contender.com/boats.aspx?id=488
The Regulator looks like a nice hull too but it seems pretty shallow
in the ass end. Not the deep Vee I would expect in an offshore boat.
But then again I don't know from offshore boats...

Thanks for your input.

You want to come up and look at the garage for your shop next week?

Like maybe Tueday?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Are you ready to rumble???

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

On Feb 2, 7:09*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 2, 6:05 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 14:51:44 -0800 (PST),

wrote:

The Regulator looks like a nice hull too but it seems pretty shallow
in the ass end. Not the deep Vee I would expect in an offshore boat.
But then again I don't know from offshore boats...

Shallow in the back end? What does that mean?

From the lind drawing they showed, it had maybe a 10-12 degree
deadrise at the stern, not much for an off shore boat. Maybe I looked
at the wrong drawing, but if it has the 10-12 then I stand by my
conclusion.. If I of course saw it wrong and it's 15-18 or better,
like 21, then I recind my observation;)

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

On Feb 2, 7:09*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 2, 6:05 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 14:51:44 -0800 (PST),

wrote:

The Regulator looks like a nice hull too but it seems pretty shallow
in the ass end. Not the deep Vee I would expect in an offshore boat.
But then again I don't know from offshore boats...

Shallow in the back end? What does that mean?

OH ;) I actually answered this before I saw it was you Harry, no, I
was not suggesting it was a LTP..;)

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm

http://www.contender.com/boats.aspx?id=458

http://www.regulatormarine.com/32fs.html#javascirpt


Same speed cape horn, Yami's or Etecs. Probably not a good hull for you.

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

On Feb 2, 7:26*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 2, 7:09 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 2, 6:05 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 14:51:44 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
The Regulator looks like a nice hull too but it seems pretty shallow
in the ass end. Not the deep Vee I would expect in an offshore boat.
But then again I don't know from offshore boats...
Shallow in the back end? What does that mean?

From the lind drawing they showed, it had maybe a 10-12 degree
deadrise at the stern, not much for an off shore boat. Maybe I looked
at the wrong drawing, but if it has the 10-12 then I stand by my
conclusion.. If I of course saw it wrong and it's 15-18 or better,
like 21, then I recind my observation;)

It's more like 24 degrees of deadrise, i would guess, or some number
close to that.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I think I was really seeing something wrong, gotta' go, I will look
again at it later.. carry on...

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

HK wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 2, 6:05 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 14:51:44 -0800 (PST),





wrote:

The Regulator looks like a nice hull too but it seems pretty shallow
in the ass end. Not the deep Vee I would expect in an offshore boat.
But then again I don't know from offshore boats...


Shallow in the back end? What does that mean?


It doesn't mean a cut-out transom, narcissist.

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

HK wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 2, 7:09 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 2, 6:05 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 14:51:44 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
The Regulator looks like a nice hull too but it seems pretty shallow
in the ass end. Not the deep Vee I would expect in an offshore boat.
But then again I don't know from offshore boats...
Shallow in the back end? What does that mean?

OH ;) I actually answered this before I saw it was you Harry, no, I
was not suggesting it was a LTP..;)


Indeed, the idiocy must continue.

Incidentally, my Parker has 21 degrees of deadrise at the stern, a 25"
transom height at the top of the motor bracket, and at least six more
inches of transom height on each side of the motor bracket cutout, and
four draining scuppers in the cockpit. And since I don't have a very
heavy outboard on the transom, the boat floats pretty high in the back
end. In 30 hours of use so far, the only water from the Bay I've gotten
in the boat is via a bucket to wash out some bait guts.

I suppose if I were a PussyBoater...well, I'm not. :}


"motor bracket"? You are new to boats, huh?

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

On Feb 2, 6:05*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 14:51:44 -0800 (PST),





wrote:
On Feb 2, 3:55*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm

http://www.contender.com/boats.aspx?id=458

http://www.regulatormarine.com/32fs.html#javascirpt

So, what the hell do you want in a boat anyway? You got the Capehorn
with the big open, well, open, and real high sides. You got the
regulator, which I actually like better, then you got one with a
little fishing deck and bunks for 4?? I would want some kind of
shelter in an off shore boat, just in case, but I would still like to
tow without permits. I like this boat, not that it matters.
http://www.contender.com/boats.aspx?id=488
The Regulator looks like a nice hull too but it seems pretty shallow
in the ass end. Not the deep Vee I would expect in an offshore boat.
But then again I don't know from offshore boats...

Thanks for your input.

You want to come up and look at the garage for your shop next week?

Like maybe Tueday?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ready to rock anytime you are.

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

On Feb 2, 2:55*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm


I was really young, but I think my uncle bought a new Edsel that had
that same color scheme.

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

Tim wrote:
On Feb 2, 2:55 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm


I was really young, but I think my uncle bought a new Edsel that had
that same color scheme.


It's going to take three hours to scrub out that boat after a day of
handling bait, fish, and empty soda pop cans!

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

On Feb 2, 12:55�pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm

http://www.contender.com/boats.aspx?id=458

http://www.regulatormarine.com/32fs.html#javascirpt

You had previously expressed some interest in:

http://www.pacificskiffs.com/

Off the table as well?

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 21:24:52 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Feb 2, 12:55?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm

http://www.contender.com/boats.aspx?id=458

http://www.regulatormarine.com/32fs.html#javascirpt

You had previously expressed some interest in:

http://www.pacificskiffs.com/

Off the table as well?

Not really. I'm probably going to take a ride up to Black Lab next
week and see exactly what kind of custom work they can do.

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 21:24:52 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Feb 2, 12:55?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm

http://www.contender.com/boats.aspx?id=458

http://www.regulatormarine.com/32fs.html#javascirpt
You had previously expressed some interest in:

http://www.pacificskiffs.com/

Off the table as well?

Not really. I'm probably going to take a ride up to Black Lab next
week and see exactly what kind of custom work they can do.


These aluminum plate boats require slightly different running techniques
than the deep vee hull your Contender had. They're not quite "deep vee,"
and unless you slow down a bit, they pound in a hard chop. Also, the
"noises" from the hull are different, too, and take a little getting
used to before they sort of fade away. But they are great boats.

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 08:07:40 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 17:49:28 -0500, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm

http://www.contender.com/boats.aspx?id=458

http://www.regulatormarine.com/32fs.html#javascirpt

Wouldn't sell it to you with the six etecs, eh?

*One* would be the problem. Grady has their head so far up yamaha's
ass they won't even talk about installing a different manufacturer's
engine.

Same thing with Parker.

I tried to buy a bare boat Canyon 33 - I'd do my own installation at
my dealer.

No. Way. No. How.

Fine - their loss, not mine.

There are other boats and other dealers who will work with me on it,
so that's where the money goes.

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 17:49:28 -0500, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm

http://www.contender.com/boats.aspx?id=458

http://www.regulatormarine.com/32fs.html#javascirpt


Wouldn't sell it to you with the six etecs, eh?

*One* would be the problem. Grady has their head so far up yamaha's
ass they won't even talk about installing a different manufacturer's
engine.



I'm just shocked!

I wonder how much of the reluctance has to do with unwillingness to
train the factory guys to install a different line of engine, or not
wanting to keep track or inventory of another line's parts, or not
wanting to complicate warranty work. I know other manufacturers will
hang about any engine off the transom you want, but Grady and Parker,
for example, are relatively small manufacturers, and Parker is family
owned, and for whatever reasons the Parker family doesn't want to deal
with it.

I don't blame them, actually.

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 19:32:57 -0800 (PST), Tim penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Feb 2, 2:55 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm

I was really young, but I think my uncle bought a new Edsel that had
that same color scheme.

I think that is the first (apparently professional) website I have
ever seen that was written so poorly as to only display in micro$oft's
browser.

When it didn't display in FoxFire, I checked the index page and it
failed validation with 539 errors.

I hope they do better with the boats!



That is one butt-ugly boat, and what's with the huge decks on top of the
gunnels, or are those optical illusions?

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

HK wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 19:32:57 -0800 (PST), Tim penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Feb 2, 2:55 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm

I was really young, but I think my uncle bought a new Edsel that had
that same color scheme.

I think that is the first (apparently professional) website I have
ever seen that was written so poorly as to only display in micro$oft's
browser.

When it didn't display in FoxFire, I checked the index page and it
failed validation with 539 errors.

I hope they do better with the boats!



That is one butt-ugly boat, and what's with the huge decks on top of the
gunnels, or are those optical illusions?



Forgot...I love this part:

· Triple F350 Yamaha’s - 67mph

· Triple F250 Yamaha’s - 58mph

· Twin F350 Yamaha’s - 56mph

· Triple 250 Evinrude ETEC’s - 58mph

· Triple 300 Evinrude ETEC’s — TBA


Not because of the high speeds, which are sort of silly, but because of
the fuel burn that sort of hardware implies. What do we have here, 50
gallons an hour at cruise to go fishing? Insanity.

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 08:24:48 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 19:32:57 -0800 (PST), Tim penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Feb 2, 2:55*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm


I was really young, but I think my uncle bought a new Edsel that had
that same color scheme.

I think that is the first (apparently professional) website I have
ever seen that was written so poorly as to only display in micro$oft's
browser.

When it didn't display in FoxFire, I checked the index page and it
failed validation with 539 errors.

I hope they do better with the boats!

Thanks for that bit of info. I thought it was my computer, but didn't feel
like following up on it.

A question. Grady White has a reputation for a high quality, if overpriced,
boat. Given that, wouldn't they have put a lot of thought into which engine
they choose to put on the transom? If it's just cost, don't you think they
could have worked out a pretty good deal with Evinrude, just for the
additional status given to Evinrude?
--
John H

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

On Feb 3, 3:38�am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 21:24:52 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould





wrote:
On Feb 2, 12:55?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm

http://www.contender.com/boats.aspx?id=458

http://www.regulatormarine.com/32fs.html#javascirpt

You had previously expressed some interest in:

http://www.pacificskiffs.com/

Off the table as well?

Not really. �I'm probably going to take a ride up to Black Lab next
week and see exactly what kind of custom work they can do.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Are you coming out to Marysville?

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 05:50:28 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Feb 3, 3:38?am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 21:24:52 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould





wrote:
On Feb 2, 12:55?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm

http://www.contender.com/boats.aspx?id=458

http://www.regulatormarine.com/32fs.html#javascirpt

You had previously expressed some interest in:

http://www.pacificskiffs.com/

Off the table as well?

Not really. ?I'm probably going to take a ride up to Black Lab next
week and see exactly what kind of custom work they can do.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Are you coming out to Marysville?

I have that on the list - certainly not in the next couple of weeks,
but towards the end of Feb.

Depends on what I find up at Black Lab.

The thought has been running around in my head about having a custom
boat built because, to be honest, I can't find a boat that has
everything I want done the way I want it.

Everything seems to be a compromise.

Or maybe I'm just getting old and cranky. :)

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

On Feb 3, 12:06*am, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Feb 2, 2:55 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm

I was really young, but I think my uncle bought a new Edsel that had
that same color scheme.

It's going to take three hours to scrub out that boat after a day of
handling bait, fish, and empty soda pop cans!

I KNEW Harry would be here ****ing on Tom's choices of boats. Why?
Because he doesn't own one.....

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 05:50:28 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Feb 3, 3:38?am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 21:24:52 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould





wrote:
On Feb 2, 12:55?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.
Too bad.
Now, onto other boats.
http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm
http://www.contender.com/boats.aspx?id=458
http://www.regulatormarine.com/32fs.html#javascirpt
You had previously expressed some interest in:
http://www.pacificskiffs.com/
Off the table as well?
Not really. ?I'm probably going to take a ride up to Black Lab next
week and see exactly what kind of custom work they can do.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Are you coming out to Marysville?

I have that on the list - certainly not in the next couple of weeks,
but towards the end of Feb.

Depends on what I find up at Black Lab.

The thought has been running around in my head about having a custom
boat built because, to be honest, I can't find a boat that has
everything I want done the way I want it.

Everything seems to be a compromise.

Or maybe I'm just getting old and cranky. :)

It is possible that it is both, the boat is a compromise and you are
getting old and cranky. ;)

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 19:32:57 -0800 (PST), Tim penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Feb 2, 2:55 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm

I was really young, but I think my uncle bought a new Edsel that had
that same color scheme.

I think that is the first (apparently professional) website I have
ever seen that was written so poorly as to only display in micro$oft's
browser.

When it didn't display in FoxFire, I checked the index page and it
failed validation with 539 errors.

I hope they do better with the boats!



That is one butt-ugly boat, and what's with the huge decks on top of the
gunnels, or are those optical illusions?



Forgot...I love this part:

· Triple F350 Yamaha’s - 67mph

· Triple F250 Yamaha’s - 58mph

· Twin F350 Yamaha’s - 56mph

· Triple 250 Evinrude ETEC’s - 58mph

· Triple 300 Evinrude ETEC’s — TBA


Not because of the high speeds, which are sort of silly, but because of
the fuel burn that sort of hardware implies. What do we have here, 50
gallons an hour at cruise to go fishing? Insanity.


Equate fuel burn to insanity. Feel free to have the good Doctor K help you
out with this one.

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

On Feb 3, 5:54�am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 05:50:28 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould





wrote:
On Feb 3, 3:38?am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 21:24:52 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould

wrote:
On Feb 2, 12:55?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm

http://www.contender.com/boats.aspx?id=458

http://www.regulatormarine.com/32fs.html#javascirpt

You had previously expressed some interest in:

http://www.pacificskiffs.com/

Off the table as well?

Not really. ?I'm probably going to take a ride up to Black Lab next
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Are you coming out to Marysville?

I have that on the list - certainly not in the next couple of weeks,
but towards the end of Feb.

Depends on what I find up at Black Lab.

The thought has been running around in my head about having a custom
boat built because, to be honest, I can't find a boat that has
everything I want done the way I want it.

Everything seems to be a compromise.

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I'm reasonably acquainted with the folks at Pacific Skiffs (Pacific
Boats). It would be quite likely that they would be able to customize
one of their standard models to your exact specifications, but my
guess is that it would be more difficult to change the hull itself
substantially. They use some really thick aluminum, in huge sheets,
and it is cut to shape by another firm with a plasma cutter.
Reprogramming the plasma cutter for a one-off would probably be pretty
expensive, and then there's always the risk that the finished, untried
product might behave in some unpredicted manner. However, that's
merely a somewhat-informed impression and I could easily be wrong.

As far as superstructure, accessories, etc I know they can be quite
flexible and innovative. They were meeting some sales resistance on
one model because it didn't have a head, and lo and behold suddenly a
compartment appeared in the port forequarter of the pilothouse with
room for a marine toilet. The head is down in the bilge, so there was
almost no loss of space in the pilothouse.

Two huge markets for Pacfic Boats are the Alaska charter fishing
industry and boats built for the company's original purpose- tenders
for purse seiners.

For the second year in a row our regional Salmon-derby series (12
derbies throughout the year) will be awarding a Pacific Boats 23-
footer as grand prize.

Don't know whether they can build exactly what you want, but I'm
impressed with the quality of their boats. There are a lot of slap-
dash, backyard-welded sort of aluminum boats around and I think
Pacific Boats are in a separate and much higher class than that.

Do they have a dealer on the East Coast?

If not, it might be an opportunity for somebody. Pacific Boats won't
sell into the market looking for the cheapest available aluminum boat,
but should appeal to experienced boaters with the ability to discern
and appreciate a quality build.

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 10:54:16 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

I've noticed that the Grady website allows you to spec your own boat
and gives the ability to change engine manufacturers. I don't know if
it really works that way or not. Tom, you might give it a try and see
what they say...

That's what I did with the Contender - went directly to them and got a
bare boat delivered to their dealer. From there it went to my dealer
for the engines.

For what it's worth, Yamaha isn't doing the business any favors with
their discounting deals with manufacturers. Just my opinion.

There is nothing wrong with four stroke technology, but when you
consider efficiency, power and weight, DI two strokes win every time.

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 06:30:44 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

Do they have a dealer on the East Coast?

I believe, and I'm not exactly sure about this, that Black Lab buys
their hulls from Pacific, then retrofits them to spec.

I think.

If not, it might be an opportunity for somebody. Pacific Boats won't
sell into the market looking for the cheapest available aluminum boat,
but should appeal to experienced boaters with the ability to discern
and appreciate a quality build.

Well, we'll see as time moves on.

I'm in the market for a bigger boat.

Shouldn't have sold the Contender.

~~ mutter ~~

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

On Feb 3, 11:06 am, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 08:36:18 -0500, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:





HK wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 19:32:57 -0800 (PST), Tim penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Feb 2, 2:55 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm

I was really young, but I think my uncle bought a new Edsel that had
that same color scheme.

I think that is the first (apparently professional) website I have
ever seen that was written so poorly as to only display in micro$oft's
browser.

When it didn't display in FoxFire, I checked the index page and it
failed validation with 539 errors.

I hope they do better with the boats!

That is one butt-ugly boat, and what's with the huge decks on top of the
gunnels, or are those optical illusions?

Forgot...I love this part:

· Triple F350 Yamaha's - 67mph

· Triple F250 Yamaha's - 58mph

· Twin F350 Yamaha's - 56mph

· Triple 250 Evinrude ETEC's - 58mph

· Triple 300 Evinrude ETEC's -- TBA

Not because of the high speeds, which are sort of silly, but because of
the fuel burn that sort of hardware implies. What do we have here, 50
gallons an hour at cruise to go fishing? Insanity.

It *kinda* makes sense, if you can find conditions suitable to go
offshore at 70mph without pounding your kidneys into your hip pockets.

Here, we have to go out 30 miles to get into the Gulf Stream. A fast
trip out gives more time on the water to fish... and the professional
and tournament fishing guys are always looking for more speed.

Fuel burn (gph) goes through the roof, but the MPG figure stays pretty
steady for a given hull.

You want silly? Look at Fountain fishing boats.... go-fasts with rod
holders.

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A friend of a friend bought their last years team tournament boat, it
is down in CT. I guess my bud had use of the boat but after a couple
70 mph trips to the race, they decided the gas was too much for his
boating:)

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 10:54:16 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

I've noticed that the Grady website allows you to spec your own boat
and gives the ability to change engine manufacturers. I don't know if
it really works that way or not. Tom, you might give it a try and see
what they say...

That's what I did with the Contender - went directly to them and got a
bare boat delivered to their dealer. From there it went to my dealer
for the engines.

For what it's worth, Yamaha isn't doing the business any favors with
their discounting deals with manufacturers. Just my opinion.

There is nothing wrong with four stroke technology, but when you
consider efficiency, power and weight, DI two strokes win every time.


snerkle

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 08:36:18 -0500, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

HK wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 19:32:57 -0800 (PST), Tim penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Feb 2, 2:55 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm
I was really young, but I think my uncle bought a new Edsel that had
that same color scheme.
I think that is the first (apparently professional) website I have
ever seen that was written so poorly as to only display in micro$oft's
browser.

When it didn't display in FoxFire, I checked the index page and it
failed validation with 539 errors.

I hope they do better with the boats!


That is one butt-ugly boat, and what's with the huge decks on top of the
gunnels, or are those optical illusions?


Forgot...I love this part:

· Triple F350 Yamaha’s - 67mph

· Triple F250 Yamaha’s - 58mph

· Twin F350 Yamaha’s - 56mph

· Triple 250 Evinrude ETEC’s - 58mph

· Triple 300 Evinrude ETEC’s — TBA


Not because of the high speeds, which are sort of silly, but because of
the fuel burn that sort of hardware implies. What do we have here, 50
gallons an hour at cruise to go fishing? Insanity.



It *kinda* makes sense, if you can find conditions suitable to go
offshore at 70mph without pounding your kidneys into your hip pockets.

Here, we have to go out 30 miles to get into the Gulf Stream. A fast
trip out gives more time on the water to fish... and the professional
and tournament fishing guys are always looking for more speed.

Fuel burn (gph) goes through the roof, but the MPG figure stays pretty
steady for a given hull.

You want silly? Look at Fountain fishing boats.... go-fasts with rod
holders.

What do you troll for at 90mph?

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 15:17:31 -0500, BAR wrote:

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 08:36:18 -0500, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

HK wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 19:32:57 -0800 (PST), Tim penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Feb 2, 2:55 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm
I was really young, but I think my uncle bought a new Edsel that had
that same color scheme.
I think that is the first (apparently professional) website I have
ever seen that was written so poorly as to only display in micro$oft's
browser.

When it didn't display in FoxFire, I checked the index page and it
failed validation with 539 errors.

I hope they do better with the boats!


That is one butt-ugly boat, and what's with the huge decks on top of the
gunnels, or are those optical illusions?


Forgot...I love this part:

· Triple F350 Yamaha’s - 67mph

· Triple F250 Yamaha’s - 58mph

· Twin F350 Yamaha’s - 56mph

· Triple 250 Evinrude ETEC’s - 58mph

· Triple 300 Evinrude ETEC’s — TBA


Not because of the high speeds, which are sort of silly, but because of
the fuel burn that sort of hardware implies. What do we have here, 50
gallons an hour at cruise to go fishing? Insanity.



It *kinda* makes sense, if you can find conditions suitable to go
offshore at 70mph without pounding your kidneys into your hip pockets.

Here, we have to go out 30 miles to get into the Gulf Stream. A fast
trip out gives more time on the water to fish... and the professional
and tournament fishing guys are always looking for more speed.

Fuel burn (gph) goes through the roof, but the MPG figure stays pretty
steady for a given hull.

You want silly? Look at Fountain fishing boats.... go-fasts with rod
holders.

What do you troll for at 90mph?

Sports cars...

Well the Grady is out of the running...
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 15:17:31 -0500, BAR wrote:

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 08:36:18 -0500, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

HK wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 19:32:57 -0800 (PST), Tim penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Feb 2, 2:55 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Sadly, that's it for the Grady.

Too bad.

Now, onto other boats.

http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm
I was really young, but I think my uncle bought a new Edsel that had
that same color scheme.
I think that is the first (apparently professional) website I have
ever seen that was written so poorly as to only display in micro$oft's
browser.

When it didn't display in FoxFire, I checked the index page and it
failed validation with 539 errors.

I hope they do better with the boats!

That is one butt-ugly boat, and what's with the huge decks on top of the
gunnels, or are those optical illusions?

Forgot...I love this part:

· Triple F350 Yamaha’s - 67mph

· Triple F250 Yamaha’s - 58mph

· Twin F350 Yamaha’s - 56mph

· Triple 250 Evinrude ETEC’s - 58mph

· Triple 300 Evinrude ETEC’s — TBA


Not because of the high speeds, which are sort of silly, but because of
the fuel burn that sort of hardware implies. What do we have here, 50
gallons an hour at cruise to go fishing? Insanity.


It *kinda* makes sense, if you can find conditions suitable to go
offshore at 70mph without pounding your kidneys into your hip pockets.

Here, we have to go out 30 miles to get into the Gulf Stream. A fast
trip out gives more time on the water to fish... and the professional
and tournament fishing guys are always looking for more speed.

Fuel burn (gph) goes through the roof, but the MPG figure stays pretty
steady for a given hull.

You want silly? Look at Fountain fishing boats.... go-fasts with rod
holders.
What do you troll for at 90mph?

Sports cars...



Fuel capacity, 410 gallons. Let's see, 410 gallons at $3.25 a gallon =
$1300+ bucks. If you trailer and buy on the road. Marina likely higher.

410 gallons of gas at about 7 pounds a gallon, give or take. 2800 pounds
of gasoline aboard.


With each fillup, you get one free psychiatric examination.

snerk