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"HK" wrote in message ... Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 15:17:31 -0500, BAR wrote: Gene Kearns wrote: On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 08:36:18 -0500, HK penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: HK wrote: Gene Kearns wrote: On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 19:32:57 -0800 (PST), Tim penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: On Feb 2, 2:55 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Sadly, that's it for the Grady. Too bad. Now, onto other boats. http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm I was really young, but I think my uncle bought a new Edsel that had that same color scheme. I think that is the first (apparently professional) website I have ever seen that was written so poorly as to only display in micro$oft's browser. When it didn't display in FoxFire, I checked the index page and it failed validation with 539 errors. I hope they do better with the boats! That is one butt-ugly boat, and what's with the huge decks on top of the gunnels, or are those optical illusions? Forgot...I love this part: · Triple F350 Yamaha’s - 67mph · Triple F250 Yamaha’s - 58mph · Twin F350 Yamaha’s - 56mph · Triple 250 Evinrude ETEC’s - 58mph · Triple 300 Evinrude ETEC’s — TBA Not because of the high speeds, which are sort of silly, but because of the fuel burn that sort of hardware implies. What do we have here, 50 gallons an hour at cruise to go fishing? Insanity. It *kinda* makes sense, if you can find conditions suitable to go offshore at 70mph without pounding your kidneys into your hip pockets. Here, we have to go out 30 miles to get into the Gulf Stream. A fast trip out gives more time on the water to fish... and the professional and tournament fishing guys are always looking for more speed. Fuel burn (gph) goes through the roof, but the MPG figure stays pretty steady for a given hull. You want silly? Look at Fountain fishing boats.... go-fasts with rod holders. What do you troll for at 90mph? Sports cars... Fuel capacity, 410 gallons. Let's see, 410 gallons at $3.25 a gallon = $1300+ bucks. If you trailer and buy on the road. Marina likely higher. 410 gallons of gas at about 7 pounds a gallon, give or take. 2800 pounds of gasoline aboard. With each fillup, you get one free psychiatric examination. snerk Get Dr. Dr. to pay for the gas. So you do one 400 gallon fillup or 10 40 gallon fillups. You might get a discount with the 400 gallon fillup. |
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On Feb 3, 5:39 pm, "CalifBill" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 15:17:31 -0500, BAR wrote: Gene Kearns wrote: On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 08:36:18 -0500, HK penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: HK wrote: Gene Kearns wrote: On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 19:32:57 -0800 (PST), Tim penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: On Feb 2, 2:55 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Sadly, that's it for the Grady. Too bad. Now, onto other boats. http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm I was really young, but I think my uncle bought a new Edsel that had that same color scheme. I think that is the first (apparently professional) website I have ever seen that was written so poorly as to only display in micro$oft's browser. When it didn't display in FoxFire, I checked the index page and it failed validation with 539 errors. I hope they do better with the boats! That is one butt-ugly boat, and what's with the huge decks on top of the gunnels, or are those optical illusions? Forgot...I love this part: · Triple F350 Yamaha's - 67mph · Triple F250 Yamaha's - 58mph · Twin F350 Yamaha's - 56mph · Triple 250 Evinrude ETEC's - 58mph · Triple 300 Evinrude ETEC's -- TBA Not because of the high speeds, which are sort of silly, but because of the fuel burn that sort of hardware implies. What do we have here, 50 gallons an hour at cruise to go fishing? Insanity. It *kinda* makes sense, if you can find conditions suitable to go offshore at 70mph without pounding your kidneys into your hip pockets.. Here, we have to go out 30 miles to get into the Gulf Stream. A fast trip out gives more time on the water to fish... and the professional and tournament fishing guys are always looking for more speed. Fuel burn (gph) goes through the roof, but the MPG figure stays pretty steady for a given hull. You want silly? Look at Fountain fishing boats.... go-fasts with rod holders. What do you troll for at 90mph? Sports cars... Fuel capacity, 410 gallons. Let's see, 410 gallons at $3.25 a gallon = $1300+ bucks. If you trailer and buy on the road. Marina likely higher. 410 gallons of gas at about 7 pounds a gallon, give or take. 2800 pounds of gasoline aboard. With each fillup, you get one free psychiatric examination. snerk Get Dr. Dr. to pay for the gas. So you do one 400 gallon fillup or 10 40 gallon fillups. You might get a discount with the 400 gallon fillup.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I'm wondering what the burn rate is for the Zimmerman like lobster boat! |
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On Feb 3, 5:39 pm, "CalifBill" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 15:17:31 -0500, BAR wrote: Gene Kearns wrote: On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 08:36:18 -0500, HK penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: HK wrote: Gene Kearns wrote: On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 19:32:57 -0800 (PST), Tim penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: On Feb 2, 2:55 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Sadly, that's it for the Grady. Too bad. Now, onto other boats. http://capehornboats.com/index_files/Page540.htm I was really young, but I think my uncle bought a new Edsel that had that same color scheme. I think that is the first (apparently professional) website I have ever seen that was written so poorly as to only display in micro$oft's browser. When it didn't display in FoxFire, I checked the index page and it failed validation with 539 errors. I hope they do better with the boats! That is one butt-ugly boat, and what's with the huge decks on top of the gunnels, or are those optical illusions? Forgot...I love this part: · Triple F350 Yamaha's - 67mph · Triple F250 Yamaha's - 58mph · Twin F350 Yamaha's - 56mph · Triple 250 Evinrude ETEC's - 58mph · Triple 300 Evinrude ETEC's -- TBA Not because of the high speeds, which are sort of silly, but because of the fuel burn that sort of hardware implies. What do we have here, 50 gallons an hour at cruise to go fishing? Insanity. It *kinda* makes sense, if you can find conditions suitable to go offshore at 70mph without pounding your kidneys into your hip pockets.. Here, we have to go out 30 miles to get into the Gulf Stream. A fast trip out gives more time on the water to fish... and the professional and tournament fishing guys are always looking for more speed. Fuel burn (gph) goes through the roof, but the MPG figure stays pretty steady for a given hull. You want silly? Look at Fountain fishing boats.... go-fasts with rod holders. What do you troll for at 90mph? Sports cars... Fuel capacity, 410 gallons. Let's see, 410 gallons at $3.25 a gallon = $1300+ bucks. If you trailer and buy on the road. Marina likely higher. 410 gallons of gas at about 7 pounds a gallon, give or take. 2800 pounds of gasoline aboard. With each fillup, you get one free psychiatric examination. snerk Get Dr. Dr. to pay for the gas. So you do one 400 gallon fillup or 10 40 gallon fillups. You might get a discount with the 400 gallon fillup.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I think one 10 gallon fillup should cover his boating for a few years.. |
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HK wrote:
wrote: I think one 10 gallon fillup should cover his boating for a few years.. I put about 30 hours on my new Parker's engine before the season ended, and burned about 55 gallons of gasoline in the process, according to the flow meter. How much gas did you burn in your string trimmer? That is more than you normally use in a year. I would guess you will be back to normal usage this year. |
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"HK" wrote in message ... wrote: I think one 10 gallon fillup should cover his boating for a few years.. I put about 30 hours on my new Parker's engine before the season ended, and burned about 55 gallons of gasoline in the process, according to the flow meter. How much gas did you burn in your string trimmer? If my math is correct that's about 1.8333333333333 GPH. My guess is that you didn't get that barge above hull speed much. |
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"Jim" wrote in message ... "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: I think one 10 gallon fillup should cover his boating for a few years.. I put about 30 hours on my new Parker's engine before the season ended, and burned about 55 gallons of gasoline in the process, according to the flow meter. How much gas did you burn in your string trimmer? If my math is correct that's about 1.8333333333333 GPH. My guess is that you didn't get that barge above hull speed much. That's just about what Mrs.E.'s boat burns running wide open. Eisboch |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Jim" wrote in message ... "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: I think one 10 gallon fillup should cover his boating for a few years.. I put about 30 hours on my new Parker's engine before the season ended, and burned about 55 gallons of gasoline in the process, according to the flow meter. How much gas did you burn in your string trimmer? If my math is correct that's about 1.8333333333333 GPH. My guess is that you didn't get that barge above hull speed much. That's just about what Mrs.E.'s boat burns running wide open. Eisboch I guess the old Krauster can't protest your extravagant fuel burn rate too much. I wonder why his runabout is such a gas hog? |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message ... "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: I think one 10 gallon fillup should cover his boating for a few years.. I put about 30 hours on my new Parker's engine before the season ended, and burned about 55 gallons of gasoline in the process, according to the flow meter. How much gas did you burn in your string trimmer? If my math is correct that's about 1.8333333333333 GPH. My guess is that you didn't get that barge above hull speed much. That's just about what Mrs.E.'s boat burns running wide open. Eisboch Yeah, but Harry's is an offshore battlewagon. |
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:55:35 -0500, "Jim"
wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: I think one 10 gallon fillup should cover his boating for a few years.. I put about 30 hours on my new Parker's engine before the season ended, and burned about 55 gallons of gasoline in the process, according to the flow meter. How much gas did you burn in your string trimmer? If my math is correct that's about 1.8333333333333 GPH. My guess is that you didn't get that barge above hull speed much. That's about what my ETEC gets WOT. Ok, that's a slight exaggeration. I'll admit it. :) |
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:08:07 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message . .. "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: I think one 10 gallon fillup should cover his boating for a few years.. I put about 30 hours on my new Parker's engine before the season ended, and burned about 55 gallons of gasoline in the process, according to the flow meter. How much gas did you burn in your string trimmer? If my math is correct that's about 1.8333333333333 GPH. My guess is that you didn't get that barge above hull speed much. That's just about what Mrs.E.'s boat burns running wide open. Just out of curiosity, what's the speed WOT? |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:08:07 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Jim" wrote in message .. . "HK" wrote in message ... I put about 30 hours on my new Parker's engine before the season ended, and burned about 55 gallons of gasoline in the process, according to the flow meter. How much gas did you burn in your string trimmer? If my math is correct that's about 1.8333333333333 GPH. My guess is that you didn't get that barge above hull speed much. That's just about what Mrs.E.'s boat burns running wide open. Just out of curiosity, what's the speed WOT? 8-8.5 kts. 120hp 28,000 lb boat (empty) more like 30-32k lbs. loaded. I was just trying to point out how misleading Harry's reported "numbers" could be to some. They may be accurate for how he happened to operate his boat last year, but the numbers should not be construed as being typical for that engine or boat. All you have to do is look up fuel burn rates versus RPM for the Yamaha 150 four stroke. Eisboch |
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:45:25 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:08:07 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Jim" wrote in message . .. "HK" wrote in message ... I put about 30 hours on my new Parker's engine before the season ended, and burned about 55 gallons of gasoline in the process, according to the flow meter. How much gas did you burn in your string trimmer? If my math is correct that's about 1.8333333333333 GPH. My guess is that you didn't get that barge above hull speed much. That's just about what Mrs.E.'s boat burns running wide open. Just out of curiosity, what's the speed WOT? 8-8.5 kts. 120hp 28,000 lb boat (empty) more like 30-32k lbs. loaded. I was just trying to point out how misleading Harry's reported "numbers" could be to some. They may be accurate for how he happened to operate his boat last year, but the numbers should not be construed as being typical for that engine or boat. All you have to do is look up fuel burn rates versus RPM for the Yamaha 150 four stroke. Well, here's an interesting data point. On my Ranger, with my sexy high tech ETEC engine, at 9 knots, I burn just under 2 gph. Curious huh? |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:45:25 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message . .. On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:08:07 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Jim" wrote in message ... "HK" wrote in message ... I put about 30 hours on my new Parker's engine before the season ended, and burned about 55 gallons of gasoline in the process, according to the flow meter. How much gas did you burn in your string trimmer? If my math is correct that's about 1.8333333333333 GPH. My guess is that you didn't get that barge above hull speed much. That's just about what Mrs.E.'s boat burns running wide open. Just out of curiosity, what's the speed WOT? 8-8.5 kts. 120hp 28,000 lb boat (empty) more like 30-32k lbs. loaded. I was just trying to point out how misleading Harry's reported "numbers" could be to some. They may be accurate for how he happened to operate his boat last year, but the numbers should not be construed as being typical for that engine or boat. All you have to do is look up fuel burn rates versus RPM for the Yamaha 150 four stroke. Well, here's an interesting data point. On my Ranger, with my sexy high tech ETEC engine, at 9 knots, I burn just under 2 gph. Curious huh? Yes. Touchdown for diesel power! Similar amount of fuel used, moving a much heavier boat with much less horsepower. Case closed. Eisboch |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:55:35 -0500, "Jim" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: I think one 10 gallon fillup should cover his boating for a few years.. I put about 30 hours on my new Parker's engine before the season ended, and burned about 55 gallons of gasoline in the process, according to the flow meter. How much gas did you burn in your string trimmer? If my math is correct that's about 1.8333333333333 GPH. My guess is that you didn't get that barge above hull speed much. That's about what my ETEC gets WOT. Oil? :-) Ok, that's a slight exaggeration. I'll admit it. :) |
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:54:37 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:45:25 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:08:07 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Jim" wrote in message m... "HK" wrote in message ... I put about 30 hours on my new Parker's engine before the season ended, and burned about 55 gallons of gasoline in the process, according to the flow meter. How much gas did you burn in your string trimmer? If my math is correct that's about 1.8333333333333 GPH. My guess is that you didn't get that barge above hull speed much. That's just about what Mrs.E.'s boat burns running wide open. Just out of curiosity, what's the speed WOT? 8-8.5 kts. 120hp 28,000 lb boat (empty) more like 30-32k lbs. loaded. I was just trying to point out how misleading Harry's reported "numbers" could be to some. They may be accurate for how he happened to operate his boat last year, but the numbers should not be construed as being typical for that engine or boat. All you have to do is look up fuel burn rates versus RPM for the Yamaha 150 four stroke. Well, here's an interesting data point. On my Ranger, with my sexy high tech ETEC engine, at 9 knots, I burn just under 2 gph. Curious huh? Yes. Touchdown for diesel power! Similar amount of fuel used, moving a much heavier boat with much less horsepower. Case closed. Well, not really. I can't see your GB going 50 mph on the way to the fishing grounds. Case reopened. :) I wonder what the burn rate would be at the high end of the RPM range for, say, 45 mph on a go fast diesel powered boat. Bet 'cha it's about the same. Then again, how would I prove it. :) |
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:01:30 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:55:35 -0500, "Jim" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: I think one 10 gallon fillup should cover his boating for a few years.. I put about 30 hours on my new Parker's engine before the season ended, and burned about 55 gallons of gasoline in the process, according to the flow meter. How much gas did you burn in your string trimmer? If my math is correct that's about 1.8333333333333 GPH. My guess is that you didn't get that barge above hull speed much. That's about what my ETEC gets WOT. Oil? :-) Huh? |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:54:37 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message On my Ranger, with my sexy high tech ETEC engine, at 9 knots, I burn just under 2 gph. Curious huh? Yes. Touchdown for diesel power! Similar amount of fuel used, moving a much heavier boat with much less horsepower. Case closed. Well, not really. I can't see your GB going 50 mph on the way to the fishing grounds. Case reopened. :) I wonder what the burn rate would be at the high end of the RPM range for, say, 45 mph on a go fast diesel powered boat. Bet 'cha it's about the same. Then again, how would I prove it. :) I don't know. The Egg Harbor, at about 30 kts, burned about 40 gallons per hour (combined, twin 420hp Cats). But .... going back to the GB ..... you have to consider the weight that the little 120 hp diesel is moving. Eisboch |
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:22:13 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:54:37 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message On my Ranger, with my sexy high tech ETEC engine, at 9 knots, I burn just under 2 gph. Curious huh? Yes. Touchdown for diesel power! Similar amount of fuel used, moving a much heavier boat with much less horsepower. Case closed. Well, not really. I can't see your GB going 50 mph on the way to the fishing grounds. Case reopened. :) I wonder what the burn rate would be at the high end of the RPM range for, say, 45 mph on a go fast diesel powered boat. Bet 'cha it's about the same. Then again, how would I prove it. :) I don't know. The Egg Harbor, at about 30 kts, burned about 40 gallons per hour (combined, twin 420hp Cats). But .... going back to the GB ..... you have to consider the weight that the little 120 hp diesel is moving. Absoutely - diesels are much more efficient than gas engines. For me, I'd sacrifice the extra weight penalty if I could get 200 hp outboard diesels - in a heart beat. |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:08:07 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: On my Ranger, with my sexy high tech ETEC engine, at 9 knots, I burn just under 2 gph. Curious huh? Yes. Touchdown for diesel power! Similar amount of fuel used, moving a much heavier boat with much less horsepower. Case closed. Well, not really. I can't see your GB going 50 mph on the way to the fishing grounds. Case reopened. :) Now wait a cottin' pickin' minute. Your're getting as slippery as Harry. Nobody talked about maximum speed. We were comparing fuel burn rates *at* 8-9 kts. and the efficiency of doing so. Your Etec, with what? 200hp? is moving a *much* lighter boat at 9 kts, burning roughly the same amount of fuel as a 120 hp diesel pushing a 30,000 lb boat at 8 kts. Plus .... (hehehe) let me know when your Etec will need a rebuild. At 6000 hrs, the little Leyman diesel in the GB is about halfway through it's service life before rebuild according to American Diesel. Eisboch |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:01:30 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message . .. On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:55:35 -0500, "Jim" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: I think one 10 gallon fillup should cover his boating for a few years.. I put about 30 hours on my new Parker's engine before the season ended, and burned about 55 gallons of gasoline in the process, according to the flow meter. How much gas did you burn in your string trimmer? If my math is correct that's about 1.8333333333333 GPH. My guess is that you didn't get that barge above hull speed much. That's about what my ETEC gets WOT. Oil? :-) Huh? Just a dig, notice the :-) |
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Jim wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... wrote: I think one 10 gallon fillup should cover his boating for a few years.. I put about 30 hours on my new Parker's engine before the season ended, and burned about 55 gallons of gasoline in the process, according to the flow meter. How much gas did you burn in your string trimmer? If my math is correct that's about 1.8333333333333 GPH. My guess is that you didn't get that barge above hull speed much. Most of the fishing spots I frequent aren't that far from the launch ramps I use, 10-15 miles would be the furthest, I'd guess. The Bay is less than 10 miles across from me, and when I trailer down to the Patuxent to the launch ramp there, there are dozens of spots to fish within five miles of that ramp. I don't see any reason to run a boat at high speeds for two or three or four hours to catch the same sort of fish I can catch locally. When I lived in Florida, I mostly fished in the ICW and the ocean inlets and within a mile or two of shore. Great fishing. I did run offshore for the reefs, but, again, there was no need to do that when you could catch a 40-pound kingfish 300 yards off the beach. |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:55:35 -0500, "Jim" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: I think one 10 gallon fillup should cover his boating for a few years.. I put about 30 hours on my new Parker's engine before the season ended, and burned about 55 gallons of gasoline in the process, according to the flow meter. How much gas did you burn in your string trimmer? If my math is correct that's about 1.8333333333333 GPH. My guess is that you didn't get that barge above hull speed much. That's about what my ETEC gets WOT. Ok, that's a slight exaggeration. I'll admit it. :) Etec? Etecs spend most of their lives in the shop, waiting for parts from France. |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:08:07 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Jim" wrote in message ... "HK" wrote in message ... I put about 30 hours on my new Parker's engine before the season ended, and burned about 55 gallons of gasoline in the process, according to the flow meter. How much gas did you burn in your string trimmer? If my math is correct that's about 1.8333333333333 GPH. My guess is that you didn't get that barge above hull speed much. That's just about what Mrs.E.'s boat burns running wide open. Just out of curiosity, what's the speed WOT? 8-8.5 kts. 120hp 28,000 lb boat (empty) more like 30-32k lbs. loaded. I was just trying to point out how misleading Harry's reported "numbers" could be to some. They may be accurate for how he happened to operate his boat last year, but the numbers should not be construed as being typical for that engine or boat. All you have to do is look up fuel burn rates versus RPM for the Yamaha 150 four stroke. Eisboch Misleading? Gee, I have an hour meter and a fuel use meter. At my cruise speed, I seem to burn around 5GPH, and that cruise speed will easily take me to the other side of the bay and back in under an hour. |
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"HK" wrote in message ... I put about 30 hours on my new Parker's engine before the season ended, and burned about 55 gallons of gasoline in the process, according to the flow meter. How much gas did you burn in your string trimmer? Misleading? Gee, I have an hour meter and a fuel use meter. At my cruise speed, I seem to burn around 5GPH, and that cruise speed will easily take me to the other side of the bay and back in under an hour. But that's not what you said. Here's what you said that generated my statement of being "misleading": "I put about 30 hours on my new Parker's engine before the season ended, and burned about 55 gallons of gasoline in the process, according to the flow meter." I commented that those numbers may be accurate in terms of how you operated *your* boat last season, but should be construed as being typical. Eisboch |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Jim wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: I think one 10 gallon fillup should cover his boating for a few years.. I put about 30 hours on my new Parker's engine before the season ended, and burned about 55 gallons of gasoline in the process, according to the flow meter. How much gas did you burn in your string trimmer? If my math is correct that's about 1.8333333333333 GPH. My guess is that you didn't get that barge above hull speed much. Most of the fishing spots I frequent aren't that far from the launch ramps I use, 10-15 miles would be the furthest, I'd guess. The Bay is less than 10 miles across from me, and when I trailer down to the Patuxent to the launch ramp there, there are dozens of spots to fish within five miles of that ramp. I don't see any reason to run a boat at high speeds for two or three or four hours to catch the same sort of fish I can catch locally. When I lived in Florida, I mostly fished in the ICW and the ocean inlets and within a mile or two of shore. Great fishing. I did run offshore for the reefs, but, again, there was no need to do that when you could catch a 40-pound kingfish 300 yards off the beach. Logical explanation as to why those numbers are as they are. I do think you have too much boat for the job, though. |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:08:07 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: On my Ranger, with my sexy high tech ETEC engine, at 9 knots, I burn just under 2 gph. Curious huh? Yes. Touchdown for diesel power! Similar amount of fuel used, moving a much heavier boat with much less horsepower. Case closed. Well, not really. I can't see your GB going 50 mph on the way to the fishing grounds. Case reopened. :) Now wait a cottin' pickin' minute. Your're getting as slippery as Harry. Nobody talked about maximum speed. We were comparing fuel burn rates *at* 8-9 kts. and the efficiency of doing so. Your Etec, with what? 200hp? is moving a *much* lighter boat at 9 kts, burning roughly the same amount of fuel as a 120 hp diesel pushing a 30,000 lb boat at 8 kts. Plus .... (hehehe) let me know when your Etec will need a rebuild. At 6000 hrs, the little Leyman diesel in the GB is about halfway through it's service life before rebuild according to American Diesel. Eisboch I want to see SWS or Harry spend the night in their boat. ;) |
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... I put about 30 hours on my new Parker's engine before the season ended, and burned about 55 gallons of gasoline in the process, according to the flow meter. How much gas did you burn in your string trimmer? Misleading? Gee, I have an hour meter and a fuel use meter. At my cruise speed, I seem to burn around 5GPH, and that cruise speed will easily take me to the other side of the bay and back in under an hour. But that's not what you said. Here's what you said that generated my statement of being "misleading": "I put about 30 hours on my new Parker's engine before the season ended, and burned about 55 gallons of gasoline in the process, according to the flow meter." I commented that those numbers may be accurate in terms of how you operated *your* boat last season, but should be construed as being typical. Eisboch They were typical enough at this end. Hey...I just dropped my first $900 of the not-yet-here season on the boat. |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... I put about 30 hours on my new Parker's engine before the season ended, and burned about 55 gallons of gasoline in the process, according to the flow meter. How much gas did you burn in your string trimmer? Misleading? Gee, I have an hour meter and a fuel use meter. At my cruise speed, I seem to burn around 5GPH, and that cruise speed will easily take me to the other side of the bay and back in under an hour. But that's not what you said. Here's what you said that generated my statement of being "misleading": "I put about 30 hours on my new Parker's engine before the season ended, and burned about 55 gallons of gasoline in the process, according to the flow meter." I commented that those numbers may be accurate in terms of how you operated *your* boat last season, but should be construed as being typical. Eisboch They were typical enough at this end. Hey...I just dropped my first $900 of the not-yet-here season on the boat. Wow! what did you buy? |
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Jim wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Jim wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: I think one 10 gallon fillup should cover his boating for a few years.. I put about 30 hours on my new Parker's engine before the season ended, and burned about 55 gallons of gasoline in the process, according to the flow meter. How much gas did you burn in your string trimmer? If my math is correct that's about 1.8333333333333 GPH. My guess is that you didn't get that barge above hull speed much. Most of the fishing spots I frequent aren't that far from the launch ramps I use, 10-15 miles would be the furthest, I'd guess. The Bay is less than 10 miles across from me, and when I trailer down to the Patuxent to the launch ramp there, there are dozens of spots to fish within five miles of that ramp. I don't see any reason to run a boat at high speeds for two or three or four hours to catch the same sort of fish I can catch locally. When I lived in Florida, I mostly fished in the ICW and the ocean inlets and within a mile or two of shore. Great fishing. I did run offshore for the reefs, but, again, there was no need to do that when you could catch a 40-pound kingfish 300 yards off the beach. Logical explanation as to why those numbers are as they are. I do think you have too much boat for the job, though. We have a lot of hard chop up here. The 21' Parker deep vee handles it better than the 21' mod vee. Two of the very best guides on the Bay have similar boats. They're really the ideal fishing boat for this area, assuming you are going out solo or with a couple of other guys. |
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:42:22 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:01:30 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:55:35 -0500, "Jim" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: I think one 10 gallon fillup should cover his boating for a few years.. I put about 30 hours on my new Parker's engine before the season ended, and burned about 55 gallons of gasoline in the process, according to the flow meter. How much gas did you burn in your string trimmer? If my math is correct that's about 1.8333333333333 GPH. My guess is that you didn't get that barge above hull speed much. That's about what my ETEC gets WOT. Oil? :-) Huh? Just a dig, notice the :-) Sorry - just slow on the uptake this morning. It was the Paulbots and their mind control rays at Town Hall. Tool a while to shake it off. :) |
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:32:26 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:08:07 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: On my Ranger, with my sexy high tech ETEC engine, at 9 knots, I burn just under 2 gph. Curious huh? Yes. Touchdown for diesel power! Similar amount of fuel used, moving a much heavier boat with much less horsepower. Case closed. Well, not really. I can't see your GB going 50 mph on the way to the fishing grounds. Case reopened. :) Now wait a cottin' pickin' minute. Your're getting as slippery as Harry. Nobody talked about maximum speed. We were comparing fuel burn rates *at* 8-9 kts. and the efficiency of doing so. Your Etec, with what? 200hp? is moving a *much* lighter boat at 9 kts, burning roughly the same amount of fuel as a 120 hp diesel pushing a 30,000 lb boat at 8 kts. Plus .... (hehehe) let me know when your Etec will need a rebuild. At 6000 hrs, the little Leyman diesel in the GB is about halfway through it's service life before rebuild according to American Diesel. I do not dispute that - you are spot on. I was just curious about max fuel rate on a diesel compared to gas engine at the same WOT speed. Let me put it this way - if there was a 200 hp diesel outboard available, would it be more efficient at 45 mph than a gas engine at the same speed. Another curiosity question - what's the reduction ratio on the transmission for the GB? |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:42:22 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message . .. On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:01:30 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message m... On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:55:35 -0500, "Jim" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: I think one 10 gallon fillup should cover his boating for a few years.. I put about 30 hours on my new Parker's engine before the season ended, and burned about 55 gallons of gasoline in the process, according to the flow meter. How much gas did you burn in your string trimmer? If my math is correct that's about 1.8333333333333 GPH. My guess is that you didn't get that barge above hull speed much. That's about what my ETEC gets WOT. Oil? :-) Huh? Just a dig, notice the :-) Sorry - just slow on the uptake this morning. It was the Paulbots and their mind control rays at Town Hall. Tool a while to shake it off. :) Take two aspirins and call your doc in the morning. |
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On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 11:38:38 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:08:07 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: On my Ranger, with my sexy high tech ETEC engine, at 9 knots, I burn just under 2 gph. Curious huh? Yes. Touchdown for diesel power! Similar amount of fuel used, moving a much heavier boat with much less horsepower. Case closed. Well, not really. I can't see your GB going 50 mph on the way to the fishing grounds. Case reopened. :) Now wait a cottin' pickin' minute. Your're getting as slippery as Harry. Nobody talked about maximum speed. We were comparing fuel burn rates *at* 8-9 kts. and the efficiency of doing so. Your Etec, with what? 200hp? is moving a *much* lighter boat at 9 kts, burning roughly the same amount of fuel as a 120 hp diesel pushing a 30,000 lb boat at 8 kts. Plus .... (hehehe) let me know when your Etec will need a rebuild. At 6000 hrs, the little Leyman diesel in the GB is about halfway through it's service life before rebuild according to American Diesel. I want to see SWS or Harry spend the night in their boat. ;) Been there - done that. 24 hour striper tournament in 2001. Took a nap on the front deck. :) |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:32:26 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message . .. On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:08:07 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: On my Ranger, with my sexy high tech ETEC engine, at 9 knots, I burn just under 2 gph. Curious huh? Yes. Touchdown for diesel power! Similar amount of fuel used, moving a much heavier boat with much less horsepower. Case closed. Well, not really. I can't see your GB going 50 mph on the way to the fishing grounds. Case reopened. :) Now wait a cottin' pickin' minute. Your're getting as slippery as Harry. Nobody talked about maximum speed. We were comparing fuel burn rates *at* 8-9 kts. and the efficiency of doing so. Your Etec, with what? 200hp? is moving a *much* lighter boat at 9 kts, burning roughly the same amount of fuel as a 120 hp diesel pushing a 30,000 lb boat at 8 kts. Plus .... (hehehe) let me know when your Etec will need a rebuild. At 6000 hrs, the little Leyman diesel in the GB is about halfway through it's service life before rebuild according to American Diesel. I do not dispute that - you are spot on. I was just curious about max fuel rate on a diesel compared to gas engine at the same WOT speed. Let me put it this way - if there was a 200 hp diesel outboard available, would it be more efficient at 45 mph than a gas engine at the same speed. Another curiosity question - what's the reduction ratio on the transmission for the GB? No question about it. You can look up the BTU numbers of gas vs. diesel |
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:45:25 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
All you have to do is look up fuel burn rates versus RPM for the Yamaha 150 four stroke. Let me take a guess: 15 gph at WOT, 7.5 gph at 70% of WOT. |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 11:38:38 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:08:07 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: On my Ranger, with my sexy high tech ETEC engine, at 9 knots, I burn just under 2 gph. Curious huh? Yes. Touchdown for diesel power! Similar amount of fuel used, moving a much heavier boat with much less horsepower. Case closed. Well, not really. I can't see your GB going 50 mph on the way to the fishing grounds. Case reopened. :) Now wait a cottin' pickin' minute. Your're getting as slippery as Harry. Nobody talked about maximum speed. We were comparing fuel burn rates *at* 8-9 kts. and the efficiency of doing so. Your Etec, with what? 200hp? is moving a *much* lighter boat at 9 kts, burning roughly the same amount of fuel as a 120 hp diesel pushing a 30,000 lb boat at 8 kts. Plus .... (hehehe) let me know when your Etec will need a rebuild. At 6000 hrs, the little Leyman diesel in the GB is about halfway through it's service life before rebuild according to American Diesel. I want to see SWS or Harry spend the night in their boat. ;) Been there - done that. 24 hour striper tournament in 2001. Took a nap on the front deck. :) Yes, but was it in January in the snow? ;) |
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On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:04:06 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: I can't see your GB going 50 mph on the way to the fishing grounds. And I can't see your center console going 50 mph in the Gulf Stream. :-) |
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On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:28:50 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: For me, I'd sacrifice the extra weight penalty if I could get 200 hp outboard diesels - in a heart beat. Call 1-800-KAREN-DOWNUNDER |
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