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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Ahh, yes. If it isn't within the experience of some here, well, it can't be possible. Perhaps if you weren't such a complete jackoff, you might get on a list, too, get a screener copy of a new movie, and see the crawl across the bottom of the screen with the copyright message. Why? Eisboch Why what? |
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"Steve" wrote in message ... On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:43:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Yes, the PS3 playes regular DVDs and CDs. Tell your daughter to make sure she has the latest update to the PS3 OS. You have to connect it to the internet and let it update itself. I know one of the updates dealt with giving the BluRay player more capability to deal with newer discs. Steve Thank you and I'll tell her. As for me, they can take their internet updates and shove 'em. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message ... On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:43:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Yes, the PS3 playes regular DVDs and CDs. Tell your daughter to make sure she has the latest update to the PS3 OS. You have to connect it to the internet and let it update itself. I know one of the updates dealt with giving the BluRay player more capability to deal with newer discs. Steve Thank you and I'll tell her. As for me, they can take their internet updates and shove 'em. Eisboch Why is that such an issue? Most updates are handled automatically. |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "DK" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 30, 10:43 pm, "Eisboch" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:24:25 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: If you want a BluRay player, I'm curious why someone would buy a BluRay player other than a PS3 for $399? The PS3 works great as a BluRay player. It's not slow, doesn't cut out, doesn't have *any* of the problems you mentioned above and uses a very fast microprocessor. By far, the very fastest available in any home computer actually. And as a bonus, besides watching BluRay discs, you can play PS2 or PS3 games and (if you plug in a USB keyboard and mouse) even use it as a general purpose computer running Linux. It's the best deal going in home entertainment if you ask me. Steve I didn't know PS3 played Blu-Ray until after I had purchased the disk players, mentioned the issues to my daughter and she informed me about PS3 which she has for her two boys. I have no interest in video games, so it didn't occur to me to even check them out. Except .... due to the discussion, she let me borrow their "Wii" system. What a blast! You hold a controller in your hand and physically go through the motions of bowling or swinging a baseball bat, golf club, tennis racket, etc. I got a kick out of it. Back to Blue-Ray. Does the Playstation 3 also play regular DVDs and CDs? Also, my daughter said it had operational issues similar to those I've experienced with the Sharp and Sony players when playing a Blu-Ray disk. I know the Blu-Ray disks hold a huge amount of data compared to regular DVD. I wonder if finding, reading and displaying the data is the reason for it's slow motionness. Another expensive lesson learned, although once they are playing, the picture quality is outstanding. Eisboch Have Guitar Hero for PS3 for my kids. Seeing how I play guitar, I didn't think I'd like it, because it's not really like playing for real, but what a blast! EVERYBODY that goes down to the gameroom and tries it is addicted! Last Saturday, I was in my brewhouse getting ready to make a batch of ale and my friend came in and kept trying to hurry me so we could play! My son has that game. Caught him bringing in the 'drum set' to go along with the guitar and microphone . Next thing I knew he had three friends down there 'playing' and singing along. Maybe if I heard some 60s music it wouldn't be too bad. He really should spend that time looking for a job. Here..I've got a job for you...... go f*ck yourself! If dirty dan did that, he'd have to put on at least three condoms to avoid contaminating himself. I've just added this version of Dingy Dan to the septic tank. Starting to stink down there....I'll have to as some yeast to break it down. |
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:38:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:43:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Yes, the PS3 playes regular DVDs and CDs. Tell your daughter to make sure she has the latest update to the PS3 OS. You have to connect it to the internet and let it update itself. I know one of the updates dealt with giving the BluRay player more capability to deal with newer discs. Steve Thank you and I'll tell her. As for me, they can take their internet updates and shove 'em. Well, you don't ever have to update if you don't want to. As for me, I'm just glad someone's workin on giving me new capabilities and fixes after I buy something, for free. Steve |
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"Steve" wrote in message ... On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:38:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:43:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Yes, the PS3 playes regular DVDs and CDs. Tell your daughter to make sure she has the latest update to the PS3 OS. You have to connect it to the internet and let it update itself. I know one of the updates dealt with giving the BluRay player more capability to deal with newer discs. Steve Thank you and I'll tell her. As for me, they can take their internet updates and shove 'em. Well, you don't ever have to update if you don't want to. As for me, I'm just glad someone's workin on giving me new capabilities and fixes after I buy something, for free. Steve In my mind the problem is that lots of hardware/software is foisted on the public before it's ready for prime time. The theory being that the public can just do the beta testing whether they like it or not. One of the biggest offenders in my little world is DishNetwork. They constantly install "updates" to the receivers that create new problems. |
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On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 02:22:57 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:38:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:43:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Yes, the PS3 playes regular DVDs and CDs. Tell your daughter to make sure she has the latest update to the PS3 OS. You have to connect it to the internet and let it update itself. I know one of the updates dealt with giving the BluRay player more capability to deal with newer discs. Steve Thank you and I'll tell her. As for me, they can take their internet updates and shove 'em. Well, you don't ever have to update if you don't want to. As for me, I'm just glad someone's workin on giving me new capabilities and fixes after I buy something, for free. Steve In my mind the problem is that lots of hardware/software is foisted on the public before it's ready for prime time. The theory being that the public can just do the beta testing whether they like it or not. One of the biggest offenders in my little world is DishNetwork. They constantly install "updates" to the receivers that create new problems. Just like anything else, the ability to do updates can certainly be abused. You don't have to be a beta tester if you don't want to be. Just don't be an early adopter. Steve |
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On Jan 31, 3:31*pm, HK wrote:
Calif Bill wrote: "John H." wrote in message .. . On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 13:40:26 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: John H. wrote: On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:28:35 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: John H. wrote: On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 08:24:56 -0500, HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. wrote: On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:24:25 -0500, Eisboch wrote: Unlike a conventional DVD player, the Blu-Ray players are basically controlled by an internal and v-e-r-y slow microprocessor. Running Java, I believe. *I'm guessing that sluggishness might be DRM related. *The Blu-Ray standard requires the software to do a lot more than just play the movie. So...I should wait a while before buying a Blu-Ray player and another restored copy of Casablanca in black and white? I would. *I can't believe people can tolerate technology that has bugs and problems. *I was reading the manuals last night and you are supposed to log on to the manufacturer's websites and download firmware updates from time to time. *That's too much. *If it doesn't work as advertised out of the box, I have little use for it. I re-hooked up the regular, $99 dollar DVD/CD player to my system.. The amp does an "upscaling" of the video image and, although not high definition, it looks fine on most regular DVD's. Now, what the heck do I do with all the free Blu-Ray disks that are supposed to be sent? *(I also bought another 46" LCD *HD television and between it and two Blu-Ray players, I have 15 free movies *coming plus got a $300 rebate ... $200 at time of sale and another $100 when I send all the paperwork in.) I'll keep the Blu-Ray systems, but will also keep the old player hooked up. Eisboch Well. I don't mind downloading updates from time to time. Hell, I do it all the time with Windoze, and I've already downloaded two software updates for my Garmin 4208 and various other electronic devices. My real problem with buying yet another device to play programming on a TV set is that the programming itself is so ****-poor. That's why I mentioned Casablanca, of course. The "restored" B&W version of that classic is gorgeous, but it isn't even wide screen. :) Like most folks, we have a couple of hundred moves on DVD. We watch very *few of them more than a couple of times, and I would state without equivocation that at leat 95% of the new movies coming out these days are absolute crap, not worthy of watching. Of the ones that are, very few I have seen incorporate any sort of visual effects that would take advantage of what I see on the Blu-Ray displays at the video stores. I'm certainly not anti-technology, but I'd want to see some really good programming available that I'd want to watch a few times before blowing cash on Blu-Ray hardware. Damn, I feel horrible. We've got about ten movies, mostly Disney stuff for the grandkids and a few Christmas presents. Why would anyone buy a couple hundred movies on DVD? Anyone? That is why God invented Netflix. We use the Blockbuster's version, which is a good deal for us 'cause there's a Bb about three blocks away. I guess if I were going to Madagascar for twelve years, I might buy a couple hundred movies to take along. I stopped using Blockbuster when they wanted to charge me a late fee, when I returned the movie at 12:05. *I was 5 min. late and they wanted to charged me double the rental fee for 5 days. They stopped that. -- John H Yup, they did, but they also lost a lot of customers forever. Blockbuster hardly ever had any movies we wanted to see. We haven't been in one of the chain's stores for many years. I checked out NetFlix, but was not impressed with its "backlist." We are on a legitimate screener list, though, and get a lot of DVDs that way. A couple of times during the film, you see a copyright message crawling across the bottom of the screen, but otherwise they are the same as the DVDs that are released after the movies finish up in theaters, usually sans the fancy packaging. Unfortunately, only the current release stuff comes on screeners. The older movies we both like we usually buy on line.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hey, everybody, I TOLD you so!!! Harry is MUCH to good for Blockbuster's movies..... What I find hilarious is he tries SO hard to come off as better than anybody else, with far more exquisite tastes in every type of culture, then when he posts here, he shows his true colors with low life name calling, lies about others, untrue accusations and the like. Plus it's all lies anyway. Lobster boat, enough said. |
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On Jan 31, 9:01*pm, HK wrote:
JG2U wrote: On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:31:34 -0500, HK wrote: JG2U wrote: On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:20:30 -0500, DK wrote: HK wrote: Calif Bill wrote: "John H." wrote in message news:qj84q3dcsmm3v3lcfdkje99gqhhnftedf5@4ax. com... On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 13:40:26 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: John H. wrote: On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:28:35 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: John H. wrote: On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 08:24:56 -0500, HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message et... wrote: On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:24:25 -0500, Eisboch wrote: Unlike a conventional DVD player, the Blu-Ray players are basically controlled by an internal and v-e-r-y slow microprocessor.. Running Java, I believe. *I'm guessing that sluggishness might be DRM related. *The Blu-Ray standard requires the software to do a lot more than just play the movie. So...I should wait a while before buying a Blu-Ray player and another restored copy of Casablanca in black and white? I would. *I can't believe people can tolerate technology that has bugs and problems. *I was reading the manuals last night and you are supposed to log on to the manufacturer's websites and download firmware updates from time to time. *That's too much. *If it doesn't work as advertised out of the box, I have little use for it. I re-hooked up the regular, $99 dollar DVD/CD player to my system. The amp does an "upscaling" of the video image and, although not high definition, it looks fine on most regular DVD's. Now, what the heck do I do with all the free Blu-Ray disks that are supposed to be sent? *(I also bought another 46" LCD *HD television and between it and two Blu-Ray players, I have 15 free movies *coming plus got a $300 rebate ... $200 at time of sale and another $100 when I send all the paperwork in.) I'll keep the Blu-Ray systems, but will also keep the old player hooked up. Eisboch Well. I don't mind downloading updates from time to time. Hell, I do it all the time with Windoze, and I've already downloaded two software updates for my Garmin 4208 and various other electronic devices. My real problem with buying yet another device to play programming on a TV set is that the programming itself is so ****-poor. That's why I mentioned Casablanca, of course. The "restored" B&W version of that classic is gorgeous, but it isn't even wide screen. :) Like most folks, we have a couple of hundred moves on DVD. We watch very *few of them more than a couple of times, and I would state without equivocation that at leat 95% of the new movies coming out these days are absolute crap, not worthy of watching. Of the ones that are, very few I have seen incorporate any sort of visual effects that would take advantage of what I see on the Blu-Ray displays at the video stores. I'm certainly not anti-technology, but I'd want to see some really good programming available that I'd want to watch a few times before blowing cash on Blu-Ray hardware. Damn, I feel horrible. We've got about ten movies, mostly Disney stuff for the grandkids and a few Christmas presents. Why would anyone buy a couple hundred movies on DVD? Anyone? That is why God invented Netflix. We use the Blockbuster's version, which is a good deal for us 'cause there's a Bb about three blocks away. I guess if I were going to Madagascar for twelve years, I might buy a couple hundred movies to take along. I stopped using Blockbuster when they wanted to charge me a late fee, when I returned the movie at 12:05. *I was 5 min. late and they wanted to charged me double the rental fee for 5 days. They stopped that. -- John H Yup, they did, but they also lost a lot of customers forever. Blockbuster hardly ever had any movies we wanted to see. We haven't been in one of the chain's stores for many years. I checked out NetFlix, but was not impressed with its "backlist." We are on a legitimate screener list, though, and get a lot of DVDs that way. A couple of times during the film, you see a copyright message crawling across the bottom of the screen, but otherwise they are the same as the DVDs that are released after the movies finish up in theaters, usually sans the fancy packaging. Unfortunately, only the current release stuff comes on screeners. The older movies we both like we usually buy on line. I should start a book to catalog Harry's bull****. Too late. *It's already been done. *It's called "rec.boats". Ahh, yes. If it isn't within the experience of some here, well, it can't be possible. Perhaps if you weren't such a complete jackoff, you might get on a list, too, get a screener copy of a new movie, and see the crawl across the bottom of the screen with the copyright message. I wasn't referring to any DVD nonsense. Perhaps if you were less of a jackoff, you could stay on subject.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There's that gutter bull****. And you try to act like you're much more sophisticated than anyone else...... |
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On Jan 31, 9:41*pm, HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "Steve" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:43:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Yes, the PS3 playes regular DVDs and CDs. *Tell your daughter to make sure she has the latest update to the PS3 OS. *You have to connect it to the internet and let it update itself. *I know one of the updates dealt with giving the BluRay player more capability to deal with newer discs. Steve Thank you and I'll tell her. * As for me, they can take their internet updates and shove 'em. Eisboch Why is that such an issue? Most updates are handled automatically.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Try to follow along, Harry. The updates being talked about are for PS3, and they most certainly are NOT "handled automatically". |
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:31:04 -0400, "Don White"
wrote: He really should spend that time looking for a job. Here..I've got a job for you...... go f*ck yourself! Not cool. -- John H |
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"Steve" wrote in message ... On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 02:22:57 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: In my mind the problem is that lots of hardware/software is foisted on the public before it's ready for prime time. The theory being that the public can just do the beta testing whether they like it or not. One of the biggest offenders in my little world is DishNetwork. They constantly install "updates" to the receivers that create new problems. Just like anything else, the ability to do updates can certainly be abused. You don't have to be a beta tester if you don't want to be. Just don't be an early adopter. Steve I guess I am just starting to show my age. Computers are a great tool, but I've just never really got "into" them. It irks me that something that is advertised and designed to do something (like the Blu-Ray players) require you to routinely log onto the Internet, go to the player's website, download firmware updates, either burn them to CD-R or copy them to a USB storage device, then load the firmware update into the Blu-Ray player, just to watch something that it would not originally read. Never have had to do that with regular DVD players. "Ol' Blue Eyes" pretty much sums up my POV on computers and a computer focused lifestyle: http://americancomedynetwork.com/ani...l?bit_id=25239 Eisboch |
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"Steve" wrote in message ... On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 02:22:57 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:38:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message m... On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:43:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Yes, the PS3 playes regular DVDs and CDs. Tell your daughter to make sure she has the latest update to the PS3 OS. You have to connect it to the internet and let it update itself. I know one of the updates dealt with giving the BluRay player more capability to deal with newer discs. Steve Thank you and I'll tell her. As for me, they can take their internet updates and shove 'em. Well, you don't ever have to update if you don't want to. As for me, I'm just glad someone's workin on giving me new capabilities and fixes after I buy something, for free. Steve In my mind the problem is that lots of hardware/software is foisted on the public before it's ready for prime time. The theory being that the public can just do the beta testing whether they like it or not. One of the biggest offenders in my little world is DishNetwork. They constantly install "updates" to the receivers that create new problems. Just like anything else, the ability to do updates can certainly be abused. You don't have to be a beta tester if you don't want to be. Just don't be an early adopter. Steve Early adopter, I've been a Dish customer for over ten years. |
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On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 13:21:09 GMT, Steve wrote:
Just like anything else, the ability to do updates can certainly be abused. You don't have to be a beta tester if you don't want to be. Just don't be an early adopter. Updates my ass. It's a way to spy on what you are watching and listening to. A lot of the slowness is directly related to putting data into memory for future transfer when it calls home. Think iTunes. :) |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 13:21:09 GMT, Steve wrote: Just like anything else, the ability to do updates can certainly be abused. You don't have to be a beta tester if you don't want to be. Just don't be an early adopter. Updates my ass. It's a way to spy on what you are watching and listening to. A lot of the slowness is directly related to putting data into memory for future transfer when it calls home. Think iTunes. :) Well, everyone wants to know what you are watching. :) |
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On Jan 31, 6:59*pm, Steve wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:43:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:24:25 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: If you want a BluRay player, I'm curious why someone would buy a BluRay player other than a PS3 for $399? *The PS3 works great as a BluRay player. *It's not slow, doesn't cut out, doesn't have *any* of the problems you mentioned above and uses a very fast microprocessor. By far, the very fastest available in any home computer actually. And as a bonus, besides watching BluRay discs, you can play PS2 or PS3 games and (if you plug in a USB keyboard and mouse) even use it as a general purpose computer running Linux. *It's the best deal going in home entertainment if you ask me. Steve I didn't know PS3 played Blu-Ray until after I had purchased the disk players, *mentioned the issues to my daughter and she informed me about PS3 which she has for her two boys. * I have no interest in video games, so it didn't occur to me to even check them out. *Except .... * due to the discussion, she let me borrow their "Wii" system. *What a blast! You hold a controller in your hand and physically go through the motions of bowling or swinging a baseball bat, golf club, tennis racket, etc. * I got a kick out of it. Back to Blue-Ray. * Does the Playstation 3 also play regular DVDs and CDs? Also, my daughter said it had operational issues similar to those I've experienced with the Sharp and Sony players when playing a Blu-Ray disk. I know the Blu-Ray disks hold a huge amount of data compared to regular DVD. I wonder if finding, reading and displaying the data is the reason for it's slow motionness. Yes, the PS3 playes regular DVDs and CDs. *Tell your daughter to make sure she has the latest update to the PS3 OS. *You have to connect it to the internet and let it update itself. *I know one of the updates dealt with giving the BluRay player more capability to deal with newer discs. Steve- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Daughter? My wife it the PS3 nut here;) It ain't a living space if there ain't a game station, a karaoke machine and a guitar;) |
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"John H." wrote in message ... On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:31:04 -0400, "Don White" wrote: He really should spend that time looking for a job. Here..I've got a job for you...... go f*ck yourself! Not cool. -- John H So.. do you still think it's cool to disparge family members Johnnyshirt? |
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On Feb 1, 1:07*pm, "Don White" wrote:
"John H." wrote in message ... On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:31:04 -0400, "Don White" wrote: He really should spend that time looking for a job. Here..I've got a job for you...... go f*ck yourself! Not cool. -- John H So.. do you still think it's cool to disparge family members Johnnyshirt? That's JimH's job. |
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On Feb 1, 10:40*am, wrote:
On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 05:43:02 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 31, 9:41*pm, HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Steve" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:43:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Yes, the PS3 playes regular DVDs and CDs. *Tell your daughter to make sure she has the latest update to the PS3 OS. *You have to connect it to the internet and let it update itself. *I know one of the updates dealt with giving the BluRay player more capability to deal with newer discs. Steve Thank you and I'll tell her. * As for me, they can take their internet updates and shove 'em. Eisboch Why is that such an issue? Most updates are handled automatically.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Try to follow along, Harry. The updates being talked about are for PS3, and they most certainly are NOT "handled automatically". Harry's PS3 gets the updates automatically. Yours must not be as good.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well of course not! Everything Harry does, owns, watches, listens to, where he lives, where he used to live, where he eats, what he eats is FAR superior to anybody else in the world........ |
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On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 14:07:23 -0400, "Don White"
wrote: "John H." wrote in message .. . On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:31:04 -0400, "Don White" wrote: He really should spend that time looking for a job. Here..I've got a job for you...... go f*ck yourself! Not cool. -- John H So.. do you still think it's cool to disparge family members Johnnyshirt? He didn't disparage him. He said he should get a job. Nothing disparaging about that. Now, if he'd said your son was a lazy bum that sponged off his dad, I would thing that was 'not cool'. -- John H |
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On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 09:04:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 02:22:57 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: In my mind the problem is that lots of hardware/software is foisted on the public before it's ready for prime time. The theory being that the public can just do the beta testing whether they like it or not. One of the biggest offenders in my little world is DishNetwork. They constantly install "updates" to the receivers that create new problems. Just like anything else, the ability to do updates can certainly be abused. You don't have to be a beta tester if you don't want to be. Just don't be an early adopter. Steve I guess I am just starting to show my age. Computers are a great tool, but I've just never really got "into" them. It irks me that something that is advertised and designed to do something (like the Blu-Ray players) require you to routinely log onto the Internet, go to the player's website, download firmware updates, either burn them to CD-R or copy them to a USB storage device, then load the firmware update into the Blu-Ray player, just to watch something that it would not originally read. Never have had to do that with regular DVD players. That's because regular DVD players *couldn't* do that. So once the DVD capabilities were specified, that's it. You're stuck with that capability for years. With BluRay, they can add new features to the BluRay specification as time goes by. Things like more interactive game play, internet access, etc., whatever they can think of. You don't have to take advantage of those new capabilities if you don't want to. It will still just play the disc without an update. But certain features of the newer discs will be unavailable unless you update. Your choice. Steve |
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On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 09:21:22 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 02:22:57 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:38:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message om... On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:43:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Yes, the PS3 playes regular DVDs and CDs. Tell your daughter to make sure she has the latest update to the PS3 OS. You have to connect it to the internet and let it update itself. I know one of the updates dealt with giving the BluRay player more capability to deal with newer discs. Steve Thank you and I'll tell her. As for me, they can take their internet updates and shove 'em. Well, you don't ever have to update if you don't want to. As for me, I'm just glad someone's workin on giving me new capabilities and fixes after I buy something, for free. Steve In my mind the problem is that lots of hardware/software is foisted on the public before it's ready for prime time. The theory being that the public can just do the beta testing whether they like it or not. One of the biggest offenders in my little world is DishNetwork. They constantly install "updates" to the receivers that create new problems. Just like anything else, the ability to do updates can certainly be abused. You don't have to be a beta tester if you don't want to be. Just don't be an early adopter. Steve Early adopter, I've been a Dish customer for over ten years. You've used the same receiver for over 10 years? I'm pretty sure that if you had, the frequency of updates would decrease as the years go by. But not being intimately familiar with Dish Network, I can't say. That's too new of a technology for me. lol Steve |
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On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 15:24:12 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 13:21:09 GMT, Steve wrote: Just like anything else, the ability to do updates can certainly be abused. You don't have to be a beta tester if you don't want to be. Just don't be an early adopter. Updates my ass. It's a way to spy on what you are watching and listening to. A lot of the slowness is directly related to putting data into memory for future transfer when it calls home. Think iTunes. :) I still use iTunes 5 on one of my computers. Works fine for what I do with it. I keep one of them current though. Steve |
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"Steve" wrote in message ... On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 09:21:22 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message . .. On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 02:22:57 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message m... On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:38:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message news:j2o4q3ltsvohf36ervgst365o5oq9h02rd@4ax. com... On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:43:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Yes, the PS3 playes regular DVDs and CDs. Tell your daughter to make sure she has the latest update to the PS3 OS. You have to connect it to the internet and let it update itself. I know one of the updates dealt with giving the BluRay player more capability to deal with newer discs. Steve Thank you and I'll tell her. As for me, they can take their internet updates and shove 'em. Well, you don't ever have to update if you don't want to. As for me, I'm just glad someone's workin on giving me new capabilities and fixes after I buy something, for free. Steve In my mind the problem is that lots of hardware/software is foisted on the public before it's ready for prime time. The theory being that the public can just do the beta testing whether they like it or not. One of the biggest offenders in my little world is DishNetwork. They constantly install "updates" to the receivers that create new problems. Just like anything else, the ability to do updates can certainly be abused. You don't have to be a beta tester if you don't want to be. Just don't be an early adopter. Steve Early adopter, I've been a Dish customer for over ten years. You've used the same receiver for over 10 years? I'm pretty sure that if you had, the frequency of updates would decrease as the years go by. But not being intimately familiar with Dish Network, I can't say. That's too new of a technology for me. lol Steve Over the ten years I've had three versions of their receivers. It seems like biggest problem comes when they try to add new features and screw something up that in the past worked just fine. Poor QA, minimal beta testing if any, let the customer weed out the problems and we'll fix 'em later. |
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"Steve" wrote in message ... That's because regular DVD players *couldn't* do that. So once the DVD capabilities were specified, that's it. You're stuck with that capability for years. With BluRay, they can add new features to the BluRay specification as time goes by. Things like more interactive game play, internet access, etc., whatever they can think of. You don't have to take advantage of those new capabilities if you don't want to. It will still just play the disc without an update. But certain features of the newer discs will be unavailable unless you update. Your choice. Steve Heh. New "features" like making them work? I looked up the latest firmware update available for my brandy-new Sharp Blu-Ray player. According to the website, the update "corrects the lock up problem of the disk drawer open/close operation". Eisboch |
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Don White wrote:
"DK" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 30, 10:43 pm, "Eisboch" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:24:25 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: If you want a BluRay player, I'm curious why someone would buy a BluRay player other than a PS3 for $399? The PS3 works great as a BluRay player. It's not slow, doesn't cut out, doesn't have *any* of the problems you mentioned above and uses a very fast microprocessor. By far, the very fastest available in any home computer actually. And as a bonus, besides watching BluRay discs, you can play PS2 or PS3 games and (if you plug in a USB keyboard and mouse) even use it as a general purpose computer running Linux. It's the best deal going in home entertainment if you ask me. Steve I didn't know PS3 played Blu-Ray until after I had purchased the disk players, mentioned the issues to my daughter and she informed me about PS3 which she has for her two boys. I have no interest in video games, so it didn't occur to me to even check them out. Except .... due to the discussion, she let me borrow their "Wii" system. What a blast! You hold a controller in your hand and physically go through the motions of bowling or swinging a baseball bat, golf club, tennis racket, etc. I got a kick out of it. Back to Blue-Ray. Does the Playstation 3 also play regular DVDs and CDs? Also, my daughter said it had operational issues similar to those I've experienced with the Sharp and Sony players when playing a Blu-Ray disk. I know the Blu-Ray disks hold a huge amount of data compared to regular DVD. I wonder if finding, reading and displaying the data is the reason for it's slow motionness. Another expensive lesson learned, although once they are playing, the picture quality is outstanding. Eisboch Have Guitar Hero for PS3 for my kids. Seeing how I play guitar, I didn't think I'd like it, because it's not really like playing for real, but what a blast! EVERYBODY that goes down to the gameroom and tries it is addicted! Last Saturday, I was in my brewhouse getting ready to make a batch of ale and my friend came in and kept trying to hurry me so we could play! My son has that game. Caught him bringing in the 'drum set' to go along with the guitar and microphone . Next thing I knew he had three friends down there 'playing' and singing along. Maybe if I heard some 60s music it wouldn't be too bad. He really should spend that time looking for a job. Here..I've got a job for you...... go f*ck yourself! It's got to be tough. You have an adult child not only living in your home, but running it to the point where own his father has to resort to profanity to try to make himself feel a *little* better about a sad situation. |
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Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "DK" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 30, 10:43 pm, "Eisboch" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:24:25 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: If you want a BluRay player, I'm curious why someone would buy a BluRay player other than a PS3 for $399? The PS3 works great as a BluRay player. It's not slow, doesn't cut out, doesn't have *any* of the problems you mentioned above and uses a very fast microprocessor. By far, the very fastest available in any home computer actually. And as a bonus, besides watching BluRay discs, you can play PS2 or PS3 games and (if you plug in a USB keyboard and mouse) even use it as a general purpose computer running Linux. It's the best deal going in home entertainment if you ask me. Steve I didn't know PS3 played Blu-Ray until after I had purchased the disk players, mentioned the issues to my daughter and she informed me about PS3 which she has for her two boys. I have no interest in video games, so it didn't occur to me to even check them out. Except .... due to the discussion, she let me borrow their "Wii" system. What a blast! You hold a controller in your hand and physically go through the motions of bowling or swinging a baseball bat, golf club, tennis racket, etc. I got a kick out of it. Back to Blue-Ray. Does the Playstation 3 also play regular DVDs and CDs? Also, my daughter said it had operational issues similar to those I've experienced with the Sharp and Sony players when playing a Blu-Ray disk. I know the Blu-Ray disks hold a huge amount of data compared to regular DVD. I wonder if finding, reading and displaying the data is the reason for it's slow motionness. Another expensive lesson learned, although once they are playing, the picture quality is outstanding. Eisboch Have Guitar Hero for PS3 for my kids. Seeing how I play guitar, I didn't think I'd like it, because it's not really like playing for real, but what a blast! EVERYBODY that goes down to the gameroom and tries it is addicted! Last Saturday, I was in my brewhouse getting ready to make a batch of ale and my friend came in and kept trying to hurry me so we could play! My son has that game. Caught him bringing in the 'drum set' to go along with the guitar and microphone . Next thing I knew he had three friends down there 'playing' and singing along. Maybe if I heard some 60s music it wouldn't be too bad. He really should spend that time looking for a job. Here..I've got a job for you...... go f*ck yourself! If dirty dan did that, he'd have to put on at least three condoms to avoid contaminating himself. I've just added this version of Dingy Dan to the septic tank. Starting to stink down there....I'll have to as some yeast to break it down. Good for you! |
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On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 20:41:45 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message .. . That's because regular DVD players *couldn't* do that. So once the DVD capabilities were specified, that's it. You're stuck with that capability for years. With BluRay, they can add new features to the BluRay specification as time goes by. Things like more interactive game play, internet access, etc., whatever they can think of. You don't have to take advantage of those new capabilities if you don't want to. It will still just play the disc without an update. But certain features of the newer discs will be unavailable unless you update. Your choice. Steve Heh. New "features" like making them work? I looked up the latest firmware update available for my brandy-new Sharp Blu-Ray player. According to the website, the update "corrects the lock up problem of the disk drawer open/close operation". Of course there are updates to fix problems as well as add new features. This sounds like an update I'd want to have. Then again, if your disk drawer isn't locking up during the open/close operation, I might just not install that one and wait for the next one that does something I'd want. There's probably a very specific, maybe rare condition that causes that to occur. Otherwise, they probably wouldn't have released the unit if they could never open the drawer, right? Steve |
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On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 19:46:42 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 09:21:22 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 02:22:57 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message om... On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:38:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message news:j2o4q3ltsvohf36ervgst365o5oq9h02rd@4ax .com... On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:43:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Yes, the PS3 playes regular DVDs and CDs. Tell your daughter to make sure she has the latest update to the PS3 OS. You have to connect it to the internet and let it update itself. I know one of the updates dealt with giving the BluRay player more capability to deal with newer discs. Steve Thank you and I'll tell her. As for me, they can take their internet updates and shove 'em. Well, you don't ever have to update if you don't want to. As for me, I'm just glad someone's workin on giving me new capabilities and fixes after I buy something, for free. Steve In my mind the problem is that lots of hardware/software is foisted on the public before it's ready for prime time. The theory being that the public can just do the beta testing whether they like it or not. One of the biggest offenders in my little world is DishNetwork. They constantly install "updates" to the receivers that create new problems. Just like anything else, the ability to do updates can certainly be abused. You don't have to be a beta tester if you don't want to be. Just don't be an early adopter. Steve Early adopter, I've been a Dish customer for over ten years. You've used the same receiver for over 10 years? I'm pretty sure that if you had, the frequency of updates would decrease as the years go by. But not being intimately familiar with Dish Network, I can't say. That's too new of a technology for me. lol Steve Over the ten years I've had three versions of their receivers. It seems like biggest problem comes when they try to add new features and screw something up that in the past worked just fine. Poor QA, minimal beta testing if any, let the customer weed out the problems and we'll fix 'em later. Ah, ok. Well if you don't want to be a beta tester, stick with the receiver that's gone through the update cycle and is working. When you switch to the latest receiver, that's being an early adopter in the Dish Network world. Same thing as when you want the latest, just released smartphone even though cellphones have been around for years. Steve |
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"Steve" wrote in message ... On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 19:46:42 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message . .. On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 09:21:22 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message m... On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 02:22:57 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message news:ska5q3hoqjuum63d1qn85go07jnjk3ge31@4ax. com... On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:38:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message news:j2o4q3ltsvohf36ervgst365o5oq9h02rd@4a x.com... On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:43:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Yes, the PS3 playes regular DVDs and CDs. Tell your daughter to make sure she has the latest update to the PS3 OS. You have to connect it to the internet and let it update itself. I know one of the updates dealt with giving the BluRay player more capability to deal with newer discs. Steve Thank you and I'll tell her. As for me, they can take their internet updates and shove 'em. Well, you don't ever have to update if you don't want to. As for me, I'm just glad someone's workin on giving me new capabilities and fixes after I buy something, for free. Steve In my mind the problem is that lots of hardware/software is foisted on the public before it's ready for prime time. The theory being that the public can just do the beta testing whether they like it or not. One of the biggest offenders in my little world is DishNetwork. They constantly install "updates" to the receivers that create new problems. Just like anything else, the ability to do updates can certainly be abused. You don't have to be a beta tester if you don't want to be. Just don't be an early adopter. Steve Early adopter, I've been a Dish customer for over ten years. You've used the same receiver for over 10 years? I'm pretty sure that if you had, the frequency of updates would decrease as the years go by. But not being intimately familiar with Dish Network, I can't say. That's too new of a technology for me. lol Steve Over the ten years I've had three versions of their receivers. It seems like biggest problem comes when they try to add new features and screw something up that in the past worked just fine. Poor QA, minimal beta testing if any, let the customer weed out the problems and we'll fix 'em later. Ah, ok. Well if you don't want to be a beta tester, stick with the receiver that's gone through the update cycle and is working. When you switch to the latest receiver, that's being an early adopter in the Dish Network world. Same thing as when you want the latest, just released smartphone even though cellphones have been around for years. Steve You don't get it. The "update cycles" are never complete. None of three receiver models I had have been the "latest and greatest". They were all on the market at least a year before I had them. You think it's OK for the consumer to be the beta tester, sorry I do not agree. |
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On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 01:02:24 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:
[...] Ah, ok. Well if you don't want to be a beta tester, stick with the receiver that's gone through the update cycle and is working. When you switch to the latest receiver, that's being an early adopter in the Dish Network world. Same thing as when you want the latest, just released smartphone even though cellphones have been around for years. Steve You don't get it. The "update cycles" are never complete. None of three receiver models I had have been the "latest and greatest". They were all on the market at least a year before I had them. You think it's OK for the consumer to be the beta tester, sorry I do not agree. Well then obviously a year isn't long enough. Try one 3 or 4 years old if you don't want updates anymore. Steve |
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"Steve" wrote in message ... On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 01:02:24 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: [...] Ah, ok. Well if you don't want to be a beta tester, stick with the receiver that's gone through the update cycle and is working. When you switch to the latest receiver, that's being an early adopter in the Dish Network world. Same thing as when you want the latest, just released smartphone even though cellphones have been around for years. Steve You don't get it. The "update cycles" are never complete. None of three receiver models I had have been the "latest and greatest". They were all on the market at least a year before I had them. You think it's OK for the consumer to be the beta tester, sorry I do not agree. Well then obviously a year isn't long enough. Try one 3 or 4 years old if you don't want updates anymore. Steve I'll consider your advice. |
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On Feb 1, 10:33*am, HK wrote:
wrote: On Jan 31, 6:59 pm, Steve wrote: On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:43:40 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:24:25 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: If you want a BluRay player, I'm curious why someone would buy a BluRay player other than a PS3 for $399? *The PS3 works great as a BluRay player. *It's not slow, doesn't cut out, doesn't have *any* of the problems you mentioned above and uses a very fast microprocessor. By far, the very fastest available in any home computer actually. And as a bonus, besides watching BluRay discs, you can play PS2 or PS3 games and (if you plug in a USB keyboard and mouse) even use it as a general purpose computer running Linux. *It's the best deal going in home entertainment if you ask me. Steve I didn't know PS3 played Blu-Ray until after I had purchased the disk players, *mentioned the issues to my daughter and she informed me about PS3 which she has for her two boys. * I have no interest in video games, so it didn't occur to me to even check them out. *Except .... * due to the discussion, she let me borrow their "Wii" system. *What a blast! You hold a controller in your hand and physically go through the motions of bowling or swinging a baseball bat, golf club, tennis racket, etc. * I got a kick out of it. Back to Blue-Ray. * Does the Playstation 3 also play regular DVDs and CDs? Also, my daughter said it had operational issues similar to those I've experienced with the Sharp and Sony players when playing a Blu-Ray disk. I know the Blu-Ray disks hold a huge amount of data compared to regular DVD. I wonder if finding, reading and displaying the data is the reason for it's slow motionness. Yes, the PS3 playes regular DVDs and CDs. *Tell your daughter to make sure she has the latest update to the PS3 OS. *You have to connect it to the internet and let it update itself. *I know one of the updates dealt with giving the BluRay player more capability to deal with newer discs. Steve- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Daughter? My wife it the PS3 nut here;) It ain't a living space if there ain't a game station, a karaoke machine and a guitar;) Everything except books, eh? Are you loogy's brother? *;:)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I must read a hell of a lot more than you do, I don't own over 200 dvds..... |
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HK wrote:
wrote: On Feb 1, 10:33 am, HK wrote: I must read a hell of a lot more than you do, I don't own over 200 dvds..... I doubt you read at all, actually. Poor sentence structure. You WRITE for a living, Krause? |
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On Feb 2, 11:54*am, HK wrote:
wrote: On Feb 1, 10:33 am, HK wrote: I must read a hell of a lot more than you do, I don't own over 200 dvds..... I doubt you read at all, actually. Hey, tell us how you let some people stay at your Florida home after Katrina. Then tell us how you don't know crap about Florida's Homestead Exemption Act because you haven't had a house there in "years". Then tell us about the condo you own...... Then tell us about your lobster boat Then tell us about your double Dr. wife Then tell us about your Yale degree. |
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