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Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:22:00 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:34:38 -0500, hk
wrote:

Gold has a bit of history as a valuable item. Beads, too. Paper?
No thanks.
You should own a bag or two of silver coins if you are looking for
hard money. It is hard to make change for a Krugerrand when you are
buying groceries
While gold and silver can be a valuable hedge against inflation or
a server recession and/or depression, it would have no value if
there was a complete breakdown in government and society. Barter
for real goods and services would be the new coin. Gold only has
value if people believe it has value, the same as with our paper
money.

Whoa. You're saying my VISA card won't work. Even the platinum?
Oh ****.

--Vic

Gold has been highly valued for thousands of years. If there is a
general collapse, it will be something easily traded for valuable
goods and services.


What's the smallest denomination you can buy these days?


I have no idea. I just buy Krugerrands and Canadian Maple Leafs in the
one troy ounce of gold size, but I think you can buy Krugerrands in
1/10th ounce and other sizes. The Maple Leafs are "purer," if you will.
Both are recognized and accepted anywhere. The face value is not really
relevant, just the weight in troy ounces. I started "collecting" them in
1992, when they became "legal" again.

Try www.monex.com if you want to learn a bit about gold, silver and
other "valuable" metal coins.

Harry,
Is it possible that a company whose business is selling metal coins may
not be the most unbiased resource?

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Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:22:00 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:34:38 -0500, hk
wrote:

Gold has a bit of history as a valuable item. Beads, too. Paper?
No thanks.
You should own a bag or two of silver coins if you are looking for
hard money. It is hard to make change for a Krugerrand when you are
buying groceries
While gold and silver can be a valuable hedge against inflation or a
server recession and/or depression, it would have no value if there
was a complete breakdown in government and society. Barter for real
goods and services would be the new coin. Gold only has value if
people believe it has value, the same as with our paper money.

Whoa. You're saying my VISA card won't work. Even the platinum?
Oh ****.

--Vic

Gold has been highly valued for thousands of years. If there is a
general collapse, it will be something easily traded for valuable goods
and services.


What's the smallest denomination you can buy these days?

I have no idea. I just buy Krugerrands and Canadian Maple Leafs in the one
troy ounce of gold size, but I think you can buy Krugerrands in 1/10th
ounce and other sizes. The Maple Leafs are "purer," if you will. Both are
recognized and accepted anywhere. The face value is not really relevant,
just the weight in troy ounces. I started "collecting" them in 1992, when
they became "legal" again.

Try www.monex.com if you want to learn a bit about gold, silver and other
"valuable" metal coins.


Never mind.

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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:18:04 -0500, hk wrote:



No, I'm not a survivalist. I started buying Krugerrands about 15 years
ago as a "hedge" and I simply buy some more from time to time. While I
do expect this country to collapse into class warfare, I don't believe
it will happen in my lifetime, though I think the time is getting closer
as the gap between the "haves" and "have nots" widens.

I'm sure my heirs will enjoy inheriting my Krugerrands and Canadian
Maple Leaf gold coins. What they do with them is...up to them.

I keep one of each in the house. The rest of kept...elsewhere. :-)

Those coins aren't a bad diversification investment. If you buy when
gold is reasonably priced. If I was holding any now I'd sell at the
current gold prices. Pick some up later when gold drops again.
It will. My first commodity trade was a 100 ounce gold contract at
800 per ounce. Bought and sold in the Chicago pit in about 20 seconds
during the wildness then. Made 100 bucks. Wasn't me, I didn't know
anything about. A buddy in the pit did it, then created an account
for it in my name after the trade. He got in trouble, I got the
money. About 60 because at that time the brokers were getting about
40 a trade. About 1980.
Only time I traded it, when it was in the 200-300 range a couple years
later, I lost a few grand.

--Vic

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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:12:16 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:54:40 -0500, hk wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:22:00 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:34:38 -0500, hk
wrote:

Gold has a bit of history as a valuable item. Beads, too. Paper?
No thanks.
You should own a bag or two of silver coins if you are looking for
hard money. It is hard to make change for a Krugerrand when you are
buying groceries
While gold and silver can be a valuable hedge against inflation or a
server recession and/or depression, it would have no value if there
was
a complete breakdown in government and society. Barter for real
goods
and services would be the new coin. Gold only has value if people
believe it has value, the same as with our paper money.

Whoa. You're saying my VISA card won't work. Even the platinum?
Oh ****.

--Vic

Gold has been highly valued for thousands of years. If there is a
general collapse, it will be something easily traded for valuable goods
and services.

What are you, a survivalist?
Hey, I'm not going to do it. You don't take my VISA, you can jump in
the lake. If things get where you're talking about, I'll team up with
the neighbors, form a tribe, build a fire and roast some marshmallows.
Won't need gold. Just marshmallows. And maybe some brats.

--Vic

If you are only eatting Marshmellows, you may need some Ex-Lax, so make
sure you bring enough gold to trade for Ex-Lax

That's why I added brats. But I'll just trade some marshmallows to
get the brats. Don't need gold. Unless I run out of marshmallows.

--Vic

I'll bet you've been to the Brat Stop on Wisc Hwy 50 and the Interstate just
over the Illinois Wisconsin line.

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Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:22:00 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:34:38 -0500, hk
wrote:

Gold has a bit of history as a valuable item. Beads, too. Paper?
No thanks.
You should own a bag or two of silver coins if you are looking for
hard money. It is hard to make change for a Krugerrand when you are
buying groceries
While gold and silver can be a valuable hedge against inflation or a
server recession and/or depression, it would have no value if there
was a complete breakdown in government and society. Barter for real
goods and services would be the new coin. Gold only has value if
people believe it has value, the same as with our paper money.

Whoa. You're saying my VISA card won't work. Even the platinum?
Oh ****.

--Vic
Gold has been highly valued for thousands of years. If there is a
general collapse, it will be something easily traded for valuable goods
and services.

What's the smallest denomination you can buy these days?
I have no idea. I just buy Krugerrands and Canadian Maple Leafs in the one
troy ounce of gold size, but I think you can buy Krugerrands in 1/10th
ounce and other sizes. The Maple Leafs are "purer," if you will. Both are
recognized and accepted anywhere. The face value is not really relevant,
just the weight in troy ounces. I started "collecting" them in 1992, when
they became "legal" again.

Try www.monex.com if you want to learn a bit about gold, silver and other
"valuable" metal coins.


Never mind.



You ask a question about coin denominations, I tell you a spot where you
can find some answers, and your response is "never mind"? Curious.

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Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:22:00 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:34:38 -0500, hk
wrote:

Gold has a bit of history as a valuable item. Beads, too. Paper?
No thanks.
You should own a bag or two of silver coins if you are looking for
hard money. It is hard to make change for a Krugerrand when you are
buying groceries
While gold and silver can be a valuable hedge against inflation or a
server recession and/or depression, it would have no value if there
was a complete breakdown in government and society. Barter for real
goods and services would be the new coin. Gold only has value if
people believe it has value, the same as with our paper money.

Whoa. You're saying my VISA card won't work. Even the platinum?
Oh ****.

--Vic
Gold has been highly valued for thousands of years. If there is a
general collapse, it will be something easily traded for valuable
goods and services.

What's the smallest denomination you can buy these days?
I have no idea. I just buy Krugerrands and Canadian Maple Leafs in the
one troy ounce of gold size, but I think you can buy Krugerrands in
1/10th ounce and other sizes. The Maple Leafs are "purer," if you will.
Both are recognized and accepted anywhere. The face value is not really
relevant, just the weight in troy ounces. I started "collecting" them in
1992, when they became "legal" again.

Try www.monex.com if you want to learn a bit about gold, silver and
other "valuable" metal coins.


Never mind.

You ask a question about coin denominations, I tell you a spot where you
can find some answers, and your response is "never mind"? Curious.


I was wondering how you'd get change if you presented someone with a coin
that you paid $50 or $100 for. Or more. And, what if that was all you had to
trade, but the person had no idea what it was worth? Remember the 54% who
never read?

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Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:22:00 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:34:38 -0500, hk
wrote:

Gold has a bit of history as a valuable item. Beads, too. Paper?
No thanks.
You should own a bag or two of silver coins if you are looking for
hard money. It is hard to make change for a Krugerrand when you are
buying groceries
While gold and silver can be a valuable hedge against inflation
or a server recession and/or depression, it would have no value
if there was a complete breakdown in government and society.
Barter for real goods and services would be the new coin. Gold
only has value if people believe it has value, the same as with
our paper money.

Whoa. You're saying my VISA card won't work. Even the platinum?
Oh ****.

--Vic
Gold has been highly valued for thousands of years. If there is a
general collapse, it will be something easily traded for valuable
goods and services.

What's the smallest denomination you can buy these days?
I have no idea. I just buy Krugerrands and Canadian Maple Leafs in
the one troy ounce of gold size, but I think you can buy Krugerrands
in 1/10th ounce and other sizes. The Maple Leafs are "purer," if you
will. Both are recognized and accepted anywhere. The face value is
not really relevant, just the weight in troy ounces. I started
"collecting" them in 1992, when they became "legal" again.

Try www.monex.com if you want to learn a bit about gold, silver and
other "valuable" metal coins.


Never mind.


You ask a question about coin denominations, I tell you a spot where you
can find some answers, and your response is "never mind"? Curious.


Harry,
He was making a joke about the concept of trading using gold when our
society collapses. You are so into this survivalist concept it went
over your head.

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Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:22:00 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:34:38 -0500, hk
wrote:

Gold has a bit of history as a valuable item. Beads, too. Paper?
No thanks.
You should own a bag or two of silver coins if you are looking for
hard money. It is hard to make change for a Krugerrand when you are
buying groceries
While gold and silver can be a valuable hedge against inflation or a
server recession and/or depression, it would have no value if there
was a complete breakdown in government and society. Barter for real
goods and services would be the new coin. Gold only has value if
people believe it has value, the same as with our paper money.

Whoa. You're saying my VISA card won't work. Even the platinum?
Oh ****.

--Vic
Gold has been highly valued for thousands of years. If there is a
general collapse, it will be something easily traded for valuable
goods and services.
What's the smallest denomination you can buy these days?
I have no idea. I just buy Krugerrands and Canadian Maple Leafs in the
one troy ounce of gold size, but I think you can buy Krugerrands in
1/10th ounce and other sizes. The Maple Leafs are "purer," if you will.
Both are recognized and accepted anywhere. The face value is not really
relevant, just the weight in troy ounces. I started "collecting" them in
1992, when they became "legal" again.

Try www.monex.com if you want to learn a bit about gold, silver and
other "valuable" metal coins.

Never mind.
You ask a question about coin denominations, I tell you a spot where you
can find some answers, and your response is "never mind"? Curious.


I was wondering how you'd get change if you presented someone with a coin
that you paid $50 or $100 for. Or more. And, what if that was all you had to
trade, but the person had no idea what it was worth? Remember the 54% who
never read?





Then that is the question you should have asked. The "denomination"
value on modern gold coins is less relevant than their weight in gold.
Now, collectors' precious metal coins are different. They have
collectible value, in addition to troy weight value.

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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:31:55 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:



I'll bet you've been to the Brat Stop on Wisc Hwy 50 and the Interstate just
over the Illinois Wisconsin line.

No, haven't been to Wisconsin it years. Wife's been bugging me to go
up on a weekend so maybe I'll take her up there this spring.
You talking 90 or 94? I'll check it out. Been eating those
Smithville(?) or Jonesville(?) brats. Not bad.

--Vic

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hk wrote:
Damn right. You can trade gold for goods and services. Try that in a
post-revolutionary future with a piece of paper.
I'd rather have a big mean nasty dog, a couple of sidearms and some
rifles and a few shotguns. And, about 40 to 50 thousands rounds of
ammo.


What are you going to do, force a plumber to work at gunpoint?
Go take the gold from some dufus with just a small glock.

Anyone hoarding gold in case of societal collapse will have something
heavier than a GLOCK pointing back at you.

Read "The Road". And where will you spend the gold?
Barter.

And they will eat the gold?

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Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:22:00 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:34:38 -0500, hk
wrote:

Gold has a bit of history as a valuable item. Beads, too. Paper?
No thanks.
You should own a bag or two of silver coins if you are looking
for
hard money. It is hard to make change for a Krugerrand when you
are
buying groceries
While gold and silver can be a valuable hedge against inflation or
a server recession and/or depression, it would have no value if
there was a complete breakdown in government and society. Barter
for real goods and services would be the new coin. Gold only has
value if people believe it has value, the same as with our paper
money.

Whoa. You're saying my VISA card won't work. Even the platinum?
Oh ****.

--Vic
Gold has been highly valued for thousands of years. If there is a
general collapse, it will be something easily traded for valuable
goods and services.
What's the smallest denomination you can buy these days?
I have no idea. I just buy Krugerrands and Canadian Maple Leafs in the
one troy ounce of gold size, but I think you can buy Krugerrands in
1/10th ounce and other sizes. The Maple Leafs are "purer," if you
will. Both are recognized and accepted anywhere. The face value is not
really relevant, just the weight in troy ounces. I started
"collecting" them in 1992, when they became "legal" again.

Try www.monex.com if you want to learn a bit about gold, silver and
other "valuable" metal coins.

Never mind.
You ask a question about coin denominations, I tell you a spot where you
can find some answers, and your response is "never mind"? Curious.


I was wondering how you'd get change if you presented someone with a coin
that you paid $50 or $100 for. Or more. And, what if that was all you had
to trade, but the person had no idea what it was worth? Remember the 54%
who never read?



Then that is the question you should have asked. The "denomination" value
on modern gold coins is less relevant than their weight in gold. Now,
collectors' precious metal coins are different. They have collectible
value, in addition to troy weight value.



OK. You show up at a farmer's place looking for 4 ears of corn. Your
cheapest coin was $100, and he only has sons, so nothing else to offer as
change. Now what? Take an extra 182 ears of corn as change?

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hk wrote:
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"hk" wrote in message
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:22:00 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:34:38 -0500, hk
wrote:

Gold has a bit of history as a valuable item. Beads, too. Paper?
No thanks.
You should own a bag or two of silver coins if you are looking
for
hard money. It is hard to make change for a Krugerrand when
you are
buying groceries
While gold and silver can be a valuable hedge against inflation
or a server recession and/or depression, it would have no value
if there was a complete breakdown in government and society.
Barter for real goods and services would be the new coin. Gold
only has value if people believe it has value, the same as with
our paper money.

Whoa. You're saying my VISA card won't work. Even the platinum?
Oh ****.

--Vic
Gold has been highly valued for thousands of years. If there is a
general collapse, it will be something easily traded for valuable
goods and services.
What's the smallest denomination you can buy these days?
I have no idea. I just buy Krugerrands and Canadian Maple Leafs in
the one troy ounce of gold size, but I think you can buy
Krugerrands in 1/10th ounce and other sizes. The Maple Leafs are
"purer," if you will. Both are recognized and accepted anywhere.
The face value is not really relevant, just the weight in troy
ounces. I started "collecting" them in 1992, when they became
"legal" again.

Try www.monex.com if you want to learn a bit about gold, silver
and other "valuable" metal coins.

Never mind.
You ask a question about coin denominations, I tell you a spot where
you can find some answers, and your response is "never mind"? Curious.


I was wondering how you'd get change if you presented someone with a
coin that you paid $50 or $100 for. Or more. And, what if that was all
you had to trade, but the person had no idea what it was worth?
Remember the 54% who never read?




Then that is the question you should have asked. The "denomination"
value on modern gold coins is less relevant than their weight in gold.
Now, collectors' precious metal coins are different. They have
collectible value, in addition to troy weight value.


When our society collapses, what will their value be? Can you eat it,
will it protect you from the elements?

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Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:22:00 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:34:38 -0500, hk
wrote:

Gold has a bit of history as a valuable item. Beads, too. Paper?
No thanks.
You should own a bag or two of silver coins if you are looking
for
hard money. It is hard to make change for a Krugerrand when you
are
buying groceries
While gold and silver can be a valuable hedge against inflation or
a server recession and/or depression, it would have no value if
there was a complete breakdown in government and society. Barter
for real goods and services would be the new coin. Gold only has
value if people believe it has value, the same as with our paper
money.

Whoa. You're saying my VISA card won't work. Even the platinum?
Oh ****.

--Vic
Gold has been highly valued for thousands of years. If there is a
general collapse, it will be something easily traded for valuable
goods and services.
What's the smallest denomination you can buy these days?
I have no idea. I just buy Krugerrands and Canadian Maple Leafs in the
one troy ounce of gold size, but I think you can buy Krugerrands in
1/10th ounce and other sizes. The Maple Leafs are "purer," if you
will. Both are recognized and accepted anywhere. The face value is not
really relevant, just the weight in troy ounces. I started
"collecting" them in 1992, when they became "legal" again.

Try www.monex.com if you want to learn a bit about gold, silver and
other "valuable" metal coins.
Never mind.
You ask a question about coin denominations, I tell you a spot where you
can find some answers, and your response is "never mind"? Curious.

I was wondering how you'd get change if you presented someone with a coin
that you paid $50 or $100 for. Or more. And, what if that was all you had
to trade, but the person had no idea what it was worth? Remember the 54%
who never read?


Then that is the question you should have asked. The "denomination" value
on modern gold coins is less relevant than their weight in gold. Now,
collectors' precious metal coins are different. They have collectible
value, in addition to troy weight value.



OK. You show up at a farmer's place looking for 4 ears of corn. Your
cheapest coin was $100, and he only has sons, so nothing else to offer as
change. Now what? Take an extra 182 ears of corn as change?



Joe,
What you are saying is the reason we have paper money, but if the farmer
won't accept paper money, how do we know he will want hard currenygold.
God only has value, because people thought it was pretty. With the
complete collapse of society why would he want gold? It is possible that
he will want cow and horse **** so he can grow more corn. If that is
the case, then "just" will be a millionaire. ;)

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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:22:00 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:34:38 -0500, hk
wrote:

Gold has a bit of history as a valuable item. Beads, too.
Paper?
No thanks.
You should own a bag or two of silver coins if you are
looking for
hard money. It is hard to make change for a Krugerrand when
you are
buying groceries
While gold and silver can be a valuable hedge against
inflation or a server recession and/or depression, it would
have no value if there was a complete breakdown in government
and society. Barter for real goods and services would be the
new coin. Gold only has value if people believe it has
value, the same as with our paper money.

Whoa. You're saying my VISA card won't work. Even the platinum?
Oh ****.

--Vic
Gold has been highly valued for thousands of years. If there is
a general collapse, it will be something easily traded for
valuable goods and services.
What's the smallest denomination you can buy these days?
I have no idea. I just buy Krugerrands and Canadian Maple Leafs
in the one troy ounce of gold size, but I think you can buy
Krugerrands in 1/10th ounce and other sizes. The Maple Leafs are
"purer," if you will. Both are recognized and accepted anywhere.
The face value is not really relevant, just the weight in troy
ounces. I started "collecting" them in 1992, when they became
"legal" again.

Try www.monex.com if you want to learn a bit about gold, silver
and other "valuable" metal coins.
Never mind.
You ask a question about coin denominations, I tell you a spot
where you can find some answers, and your response is "never mind"?
Curious.

I was wondering how you'd get change if you presented someone with a
coin that you paid $50 or $100 for. Or more. And, what if that was
all you had to trade, but the person had no idea what it was worth?
Remember the 54% who never read?


Then that is the question you should have asked. The "denomination"
value on modern gold coins is less relevant than their weight in
gold. Now, collectors' precious metal coins are different. They have
collectible value, in addition to troy weight value.



OK. You show up at a farmer's place looking for 4 ears of corn. Your
cheapest coin was $100, and he only has sons, so nothing else to offer
as change. Now what? Take an extra 182 ears of corn as change?

EDIT
Joe,
What you are saying is the reason we have paper money, but if the farmer
won't accept paper money, how do we know he will want hard curreny (ie gold).
Go;d only has value, because people thought it was pretty. With the
complete collapse of society why would he want gold? It is possible that
he will want cow and horse **** so he can grow more corn. If that is
the case, then "just" will be a millionaire. ;)

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Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:22:00 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
"Reggie is Here wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:34:38 -0500, hk
wrote:

Gold has a bit of history as a valuable item. Beads, too. Paper?
No thanks.
You should own a bag or two of silver coins if you are looking
for
hard money. It is hard to make change for a Krugerrand when you
are
buying groceries
While gold and silver can be a valuable hedge against inflation or
a server recession and/or depression, it would have no value if
there was a complete breakdown in government and society. Barter
for real goods and services would be the new coin. Gold only has
value if people believe it has value, the same as with our paper
money.

Whoa. You're saying my VISA card won't work. Even the platinum?
Oh ****.

--Vic
Gold has been highly valued for thousands of years. If there is a
general collapse, it will be something easily traded for valuable
goods and services.
What's the smallest denomination you can buy these days?
I have no idea. I just buy Krugerrands and Canadian Maple Leafs in the
one troy ounce of gold size, but I think you can buy Krugerrands in
1/10th ounce and other sizes. The Maple Leafs are "purer," if you
will. Both are recognized and accepted anywhere. The face value is not
really relevant, just the weight in troy ounces. I started
"collecting" them in 1992, when they became "legal" again.

Try www.monex.com if you want to learn a bit about gold, silver and
other "valuable" metal coins.
Never mind.
You ask a question about coin denominations, I tell you a spot where you
can find some answers, and your response is "never mind"? Curious.

I was wondering how you'd get change if you presented someone with a coin
that you paid $50 or $100 for. Or more. And, what if that was all you had
to trade, but the person had no idea what it was worth? Remember the 54%
who never read?


Then that is the question you should have asked. The "denomination" value
on modern gold coins is less relevant than their weight in gold. Now,
collectors' precious metal coins are different. They have collectible
value, in addition to troy weight value.



OK. You show up at a farmer's place looking for 4 ears of corn. Your
cheapest coin was $100, and he only has sons, so nothing else to offer as
change. Now what? Take an extra 182 ears of corn as change?




We have a barter system in operation around here with farmers. Those who
barter make deals that please both sides. In the case you cited, the guy
offering up the gold might get "picking privileges" for a season or two
or three.

I have a barter set up for the bit of farmland I own. A local farmer
takes care of the land for me, grows whatever the hell he wants on it
(mostly produce for a truck stand he operates), I have "picking
privileges" for my table, and he and his operational farm equipment
help me out when I need it. This spring, he'll be removing two dying
trees for me, tilling our garden, et cetera. He trades some of the
silage on the land for riding lessons for his kids at a horse farm down
the way. I have entree to the horse farm to pet the animals and
contemplate whether I want a pet farm animal. No money changes hands.

I pay taxes on the land, but as undeveloped land, they are not onerous.

This isn't anything I developed. This sort of barter has been taking
place since Adam begat his brother or however that fairy tale goes.

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:31:55 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:



I'll bet you've been to the Brat Stop on Wisc Hwy 50 and the Interstate
just
over the Illinois Wisconsin line.

No, haven't been to Wisconsin it years. Wife's been bugging me to go
up on a weekend so maybe I'll take her up there this spring.
You talking 90 or 94? I'll check it out. Been eating those
Smithville(?) or Jonesville(?) brats. Not bad.

--Vic

Actually it's I-94 and Wisconsin 50, just a couple of miles north of the
border. I haven't been there in probably 25 years but we started eating
there in the '60s. Hwy 50 is the route we took to Camp Lake where we had a
home on the lake.

Just for fun I Goggled it, low and behold, it's still there after 46 years.

Three things I miss since leaving Chicago area are brats, good pizza and
Italian beef sandwiches.

http://www.bratstop.com/contact.htm

If you do stop there, have a couple for me.

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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:59:44 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:



Actually it's I-94 and Wisconsin 50, just a couple of miles north of the
border. I haven't been there in probably 25 years but we started eating
there in the '60s. Hwy 50 is the route we took to Camp Lake where we had a
home on the lake.

Just for fun I Goggled it, low and behold, it's still there after 46 years.

Three things I miss since leaving Chicago area are brats, good pizza and
Italian beef sandwiches.

http://www.bratstop.com/contact.htm

If you do stop there, have a couple for me.

Thanks, I saved it. You've given me the idea to go to Kenosha
and maybe visit the waterfront. Real quick trip compared to going out
on I-90 to see farms.
You got that right about pizza and Italian beef. I hardly ate brats
until I moved to the suburbs. 'Cause I can't find decent pizza or
Italian beef nearby!

--Vic

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:59:44 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:



Actually it's I-94 and Wisconsin 50, just a couple of miles north of the
border. I haven't been there in probably 25 years but we started eating
there in the '60s. Hwy 50 is the route we took to Camp Lake where we had a
home on the lake.

Just for fun I Goggled it, low and behold, it's still there after 46
years.

Three things I miss since leaving Chicago area are brats, good pizza and
Italian beef sandwiches.

http://www.bratstop.com/contact.htm

If you do stop there, have a couple for me.

Thanks, I saved it. You've given me the idea to go to Kenosha
and maybe visit the waterfront. Real quick trip compared to going out
on I-90 to see farms.
You got that right about pizza and Italian beef. I hardly ate brats
until I moved to the suburbs. 'Cause I can't find decent pizza or
Italian beef nearby!

--Vic

A couple of years ago my 90 year old Aunt in Arlington Hts became terminally
ill. My brother, from Michigan and I both traveled there to be with her as
she had no other family. The three weeks I was there much of our dining was
on pizza and Italian beef. When I arrived home in Florida I jumped on the
scale only to find I had gained 13 pounds.

Haven't found a decent pizza joint here. There have been a couple of places
that opened and served pretty good Chicago style Italian beef but neither of
them lasted very long.

When I first moved to Florida I walked into a "Italian" pizza restaurant and
ordered an Italian beef to go. They looked at me like I just fell out of
tree, they had never heard of such a thing. I didn't realize it's a thing
pretty much unique to Chicago.

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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:14:00 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:59:44 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:



Actually it's I-94 and Wisconsin 50, just a couple of miles north of the
border. I haven't been there in probably 25 years but we started eating
there in the '60s. Hwy 50 is the route we took to Camp Lake where we had a
home on the lake.

Just for fun I Goggled it, low and behold, it's still there after 46 years.

Three things I miss since leaving Chicago area are brats, good pizza and
Italian beef sandwiches.

http://www.bratstop.com/contact.htm

If you do stop there, have a couple for me.

Thanks, I saved it. You've given me the idea to go to Kenosha
and maybe visit the waterfront. Real quick trip compared to going out
on I-90 to see farms.
You got that right about pizza and Italian beef. I hardly ate brats
until I moved to the suburbs. 'Cause I can't find decent pizza or
Italian beef nearby!

I miss fresh from the farm brats.

MMMMMM.....

When I was a kid, my maternal Grandfather used to take me to the
Braves games at the old Milwaukee County Stadium - we used to sit in
the bleachers at the Old Soldier's Home which overlooked Right Field.
There was a WWI vet there who would cook up brats he got from a farmer
out in Troy Center and hand them out to the other vets and their
grandkids. He'd make up a veggie mix to go with them - sort of a stir
fry, just a tad different.

Good times man, good times.

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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:28:31 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:59:44 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:



Actually it's I-94 and Wisconsin 50, just a couple of miles north of the
border. I haven't been there in probably 25 years but we started eating
there in the '60s. Hwy 50 is the route we took to Camp Lake where we had a
home on the lake.

Just for fun I Goggled it, low and behold, it's still there after 46
years.

Three things I miss since leaving Chicago area are brats, good pizza and
Italian beef sandwiches.

http://www.bratstop.com/contact.htm

If you do stop there, have a couple for me.

Thanks, I saved it. You've given me the idea to go to Kenosha
and maybe visit the waterfront. Real quick trip compared to going out
on I-90 to see farms.
You got that right about pizza and Italian beef. I hardly ate brats
until I moved to the suburbs. 'Cause I can't find decent pizza or
Italian beef nearby!

A couple of years ago my 90 year old Aunt in Arlington Hts became terminally
ill. My brother, from Michigan and I both traveled there to be with her as
she had no other family. The three weeks I was there much of our dining was
on pizza and Italian beef. When I arrived home in Florida I jumped on the
scale only to find I had gained 13 pounds.

Haven't found a decent pizza joint here. There have been a couple of places
that opened and served pretty good Chicago style Italian beef but neither of
them lasted very long.

When I first moved to Florida I walked into a "Italian" pizza restaurant and
ordered an Italian beef to go. They looked at me like I just fell out of
tree, they had never heard of such a thing. I didn't realize it's a thing
pretty much unique to Chicago.

Yep.

Another "thing" is ordering pickle on your hot dog. Nice big fat
slice of pickle. And real mustard, not the crap mustard most hot dog
places have. Properly chunked spanish onions.

mmmmmm.....

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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:18:04 -0500, hk wrote:

While I
do expect this country to collapse into class warfare, I don't believe
it will happen in my lifetime, though I think the time is getting closer
as the gap between the "haves" and "have nots" widens.

I'll tell you what - if the Clinton's don't start a race war, Obama
will start a class war.

Watch and see.

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:28:31 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:59:44 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:



Actually it's I-94 and Wisconsin 50, just a couple of miles north of the
border. I haven't been there in probably 25 years but we started eating
there in the '60s. Hwy 50 is the route we took to Camp Lake where we had
a
home on the lake.

Just for fun I Goggled it, low and behold, it's still there after 46
years.

Three things I miss since leaving Chicago area are brats, good pizza and
Italian beef sandwiches.

http://www.bratstop.com/contact.htm

If you do stop there, have a couple for me.

Thanks, I saved it. You've given me the idea to go to Kenosha
and maybe visit the waterfront. Real quick trip compared to going out
on I-90 to see farms.
You got that right about pizza and Italian beef. I hardly ate brats
until I moved to the suburbs. 'Cause I can't find decent pizza or
Italian beef nearby!

A couple of years ago my 90 year old Aunt in Arlington Hts became
terminally
ill. My brother, from Michigan and I both traveled there to be with her
as
she had no other family. The three weeks I was there much of our dining
was
on pizza and Italian beef. When I arrived home in Florida I jumped on the
scale only to find I had gained 13 pounds.

Haven't found a decent pizza joint here. There have been a couple of
places
that opened and served pretty good Chicago style Italian beef but neither
of
them lasted very long.

When I first moved to Florida I walked into a "Italian" pizza restaurant
and
ordered an Italian beef to go. They looked at me like I just fell out of
tree, they had never heard of such a thing. I didn't realize it's a thing
pretty much unique to Chicago.

Yep.

Another "thing" is ordering pickle on your hot dog. Nice big fat
slice of pickle. And real mustard, not the crap mustard most hot dog
places have. Properly chunked spanish onions.

mmmmmm.....

You forgot the celery salt and tomato and sweet pickle relish and poppy seed
bun and....

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:14:00 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:59:44 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:



Actually it's I-94 and Wisconsin 50, just a couple of miles north of the
border. I haven't been there in probably 25 years but we started eating
there in the '60s. Hwy 50 is the route we took to Camp Lake where we had
a
home on the lake.

Just for fun I Goggled it, low and behold, it's still there after 46
years.

Three things I miss since leaving Chicago area are brats, good pizza and
Italian beef sandwiches.

http://www.bratstop.com/contact.htm

If you do stop there, have a couple for me.

Thanks, I saved it. You've given me the idea to go to Kenosha
and maybe visit the waterfront. Real quick trip compared to going out
on I-90 to see farms.
You got that right about pizza and Italian beef. I hardly ate brats
until I moved to the suburbs. 'Cause I can't find decent pizza or
Italian beef nearby!

I miss fresh from the farm brats.

MMMMMM.....

When I was a kid, my maternal Grandfather used to take me to the
Braves games at the old Milwaukee County Stadium - we used to sit in
the bleachers at the Old Soldier's Home which overlooked Right Field.
There was a WWI vet there who would cook up brats he got from a farmer
out in Troy Center and hand them out to the other vets and their
grandkids. He'd make up a veggie mix to go with them - sort of a stir
fry, just a tad different.

Good times man, good times.

I sorely miss good Midwestern food. I can't even find decent raw materials
down here in Florida.

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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:28:31 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


Haven't found a decent pizza joint here. There have been a couple of places
that opened and served pretty good Chicago style Italian beef but neither of
them lasted very long.

I've tried a few pizzas when I vacationed there. Best was a Pizza
Hut, and that says it all. I'm sure there are good Italian restaurant
down there, but I've had bad luck. Even mushy lasagna.
Got a feeling everything is too transient, and quality and consistency
never gets built up. Maybe it'll change.

When I first moved to Florida I walked into a "Italian" pizza restaurant and
ordered an Italian beef to go. They looked at me like I just fell out of
tree, they had never heard of such a thing. I didn't realize it's a thing
pretty much unique to Chicago.

As much as I miss pizzas when in Florida, it's getting good Polish rye
bread that worries me about moving there. Maybe we don't look hard
enough when on vacation, but I haven't seen it. Publix and the other
chain down ther - can't remember - have a pretty good selection of
food, and some good "gourmet" stuff, but around here there's plenty of
big groceries that are "ethno-centric." Mostly Polish/Russian. Good
bread - the Polish rye we like - is a given in all of them. Think it
comes from Baltic Bakery in the city, which has been around forever.
It's a mild rye, moderately crisp crust bread. Hmmmm.

--Vic

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On Jan 23, 2:54*pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:886fp314jbue2cqctoclkkc78usogdnu9i@4ax .com...





On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:28:31 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:59:44 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

Actually it's I-94 and Wisconsin 50, just a couple of miles north of the
border. *I haven't been there in probably 25 years but we started eating
there in the '60s. Hwy 50 is the route we took to Camp Lake where we had
a
home on the lake.

Just for fun I Goggled it, low and behold, it's still there after 46
years.

Three things I miss since leaving Chicago area are brats, good pizza and
Italian beef sandwiches.

http://www.bratstop.com/contact.htm

If you do stop there, have a couple for me.

Thanks, I saved it. *You've given me the idea to go to Kenosha
and maybe visit the waterfront. *Real quick trip compared to going out
on I-90 to see farms.
You got that right about pizza and Italian beef. *I hardly ate brats
until I moved to the suburbs. *'Cause I can't find decent pizza or
Italian beef nearby!

A couple of years ago my 90 year old Aunt in Arlington Hts became
terminally
ill. *My brother, from Michigan and I both traveled there to be with her
as
she had no other family. *The three weeks I was there much of our dining
was
on pizza and Italian beef. *When I arrived home in Florida I jumped on the
scale only to find I had gained 13 pounds.

Haven't found a decent pizza joint here. *There have been a couple of
places
that opened and served pretty good Chicago style Italian beef but neither
of
them lasted very long.

When I first moved to Florida I walked into a "Italian" pizza restaurant
and
ordered an Italian beef to go. *They looked at me like I just fell out of
tree, they had never heard of such a thing. *I didn't realize it's a thing
pretty much unique to Chicago.

Yep.

Another "thing" is ordering pickle on your hot dog. *Nice big fat
slice of pickle. *And real mustard, not the crap mustard most hot dog
places have. Properly chunked spanish onions.

mmmmmm.....

You forgot the celery salt and tomato and sweet pickle relish and poppy seed
bun and....- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


There's plenty of authentic ethnic foods in Florida. It's a whole
industry catering to snowbirds.

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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:54:41 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:28:31 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:59:44 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:



Actually it's I-94 and Wisconsin 50, just a couple of miles north of the
border. I haven't been there in probably 25 years but we started eating
there in the '60s. Hwy 50 is the route we took to Camp Lake where we had
a
home on the lake.

Just for fun I Goggled it, low and behold, it's still there after 46
years.

Three things I miss since leaving Chicago area are brats, good pizza and
Italian beef sandwiches.

http://www.bratstop.com/contact.htm

If you do stop there, have a couple for me.

Thanks, I saved it. You've given me the idea to go to Kenosha
and maybe visit the waterfront. Real quick trip compared to going out
on I-90 to see farms.
You got that right about pizza and Italian beef. I hardly ate brats
until I moved to the suburbs. 'Cause I can't find decent pizza or
Italian beef nearby!

A couple of years ago my 90 year old Aunt in Arlington Hts became
terminally
ill. My brother, from Michigan and I both traveled there to be with her
as
she had no other family. The three weeks I was there much of our dining
was
on pizza and Italian beef. When I arrived home in Florida I jumped on the
scale only to find I had gained 13 pounds.

Haven't found a decent pizza joint here. There have been a couple of
places
that opened and served pretty good Chicago style Italian beef but neither
of
them lasted very long.

When I first moved to Florida I walked into a "Italian" pizza restaurant
and
ordered an Italian beef to go. They looked at me like I just fell out of
tree, they had never heard of such a thing. I didn't realize it's a thing
pretty much unique to Chicago.

Yep.

Another "thing" is ordering pickle on your hot dog. Nice big fat
slice of pickle. And real mustard, not the crap mustard most hot dog
places have. Properly chunked spanish onions.

mmmmmm.....

You forgot the celery salt and tomato and sweet pickle relish and poppy seed
bun and....

It's been a few years since I've been back out that way.

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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:07:20 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 11:31:17 -0500, Salmon Bait
wrote:

Actually I prefer having money spread out across several banks, If
nothing else, it is easier to "fire" one that isn't treating you right
if you have another bank you can swap into.

I'm down to two. It makes record keeping much easier.
--

What is so hard about the "record keeping"? My accounts all get
separate statements anyway, even if they are in the same bank.
It is actually pretty hard to stay diversified when the big fish are
eating the little fish. I know some bankers who say one day there may
only be one big bank and the Federal Reserve.

Tax preparation.
--
Red Herring

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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:07:20 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 11:31:17 -0500, Salmon Bait
wrote:

Actually I prefer having money spread out across several banks, If
nothing else, it is easier to "fire" one that isn't treating you right
if you have another bank you can swap into.

I'm down to two. It makes record keeping much easier.
--

What is so hard about the "record keeping"? My accounts all get
separate statements anyway, even if they are in the same bank.
It is actually pretty hard to stay diversified when the big fish are
eating the little fish. I know some bankers who say one day there may
only be one big bank and the Federal Reserve.

Actually, it probably wouldn't be so bad now. Many of the bigger banks are
accessible via Turbo Tax which downloads everything and makes tax
preparation easy. In the old days it was a pain in the butt.
--
Red Herring

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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:54:41 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:28:31 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:



Another "thing" is ordering pickle on your hot dog. Nice big fat
slice of pickle. And real mustard, not the crap mustard most hot dog
places have. Properly chunked spanish onions.

mmmmmm.....

You forgot the celery salt and tomato and sweet pickle relish and poppy seed
bun and....

The list goes on. And people here still argue about where you get the
best this and that, but are in general agreement about some.
We haven't mentioned gyros, and I've got a place on Milwaukee avenue
that was my favorite. Gyros sliced so thin you could see though it.
Mom and pop operation called 3 Sons. Don't know if it's still there,
as the old man was getting up in years.
But gyros is real manly stuff, and some don't have the stomach for it.
Even had me burping for days afterwards.

--Vic

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:18:04 -0500, hk wrote:

While I
do expect this country to collapse into class warfare, I don't believe
it will happen in my lifetime, though I think the time is getting closer
as the gap between the "haves" and "have nots" widens.

I'll tell you what - if the Clinton's don't start a race war, Obama
will start a class war.

Watch and see.


Huckabee will start a food fight.

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:54:41 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:28:31 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:



Another "thing" is ordering pickle on your hot dog. Nice big fat
slice of pickle. And real mustard, not the crap mustard most hot dog
places have. Properly chunked spanish onions.

mmmmmm.....

You forgot the celery salt and tomato and sweet pickle relish and poppy
seed
bun and....

The list goes on. And people here still argue about where you get the
best this and that, but are in general agreement about some.
We haven't mentioned gyros, and I've got a place on Milwaukee avenue
that was my favorite. Gyros sliced so thin you could see though it.
Mom and pop operation called 3 Sons. Don't know if it's still there,
as the old man was getting up in years.
But gyros is real manly stuff, and some don't have the stomach for it.
Even had me burping for days afterwards.

--Vic

Gyros are readily available in Tarpon Springs. Most times that we're close
by there we will stop for one.

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:28:31 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


Haven't found a decent pizza joint here. There have been a couple of
places
that opened and served pretty good Chicago style Italian beef but neither
of
them lasted very long.

I've tried a few pizzas when I vacationed there. Best was a Pizza
Hut, and that says it all. I'm sure there are good Italian restaurant
down there, but I've had bad luck. Even mushy lasagna.
Got a feeling everything is too transient, and quality and consistency
never gets built up. Maybe it'll change.

When I first moved to Florida I walked into a "Italian" pizza restaurant
and
ordered an Italian beef to go. They looked at me like I just fell out of
tree, they had never heard of such a thing. I didn't realize it's a thing
pretty much unique to Chicago.

As much as I miss pizzas when in Florida, it's getting good Polish rye
bread that worries me about moving there. Maybe we don't look hard
enough when on vacation, but I haven't seen it. Publix and the other
chain down ther - can't remember - have a pretty good selection of
food, and some good "gourmet" stuff, but around here there's plenty of
big groceries that are "ethno-centric." Mostly Polish/Russian. Good
bread - the Polish rye we like - is a given in all of them. Think it
comes from Baltic Bakery in the city, which has been around forever.
It's a mild rye, moderately crisp crust bread. Hmmmm.

--Vic

If you like corned beef, next time you're in Florida a happen by a Toujays,
stop in they have good corned beef on excellent seeded rye. Toujays has
several places around Florida.

Can't get good beef down here for home use either. I really miss the good
corn fed beef available in Chicago.

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wrote in message
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On Jan 23, 2:54 pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:28:31 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:59:44 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

Actually it's I-94 and Wisconsin 50, just a couple of miles north of
the
border. I haven't been there in probably 25 years but we started
eating
there in the '60s. Hwy 50 is the route we took to Camp Lake where we
had
a
home on the lake.

Just for fun I Goggled it, low and behold, it's still there after 46
years.

Three things I miss since leaving Chicago area are brats, good pizza
and
Italian beef sandwiches.

http://www.bratstop.com/contact.htm

If you do stop there, have a couple for me.

Thanks, I saved it. You've given me the idea to go to Kenosha
and maybe visit the waterfront. Real quick trip compared to going out
on I-90 to see farms.
You got that right about pizza and Italian beef. I hardly ate brats
until I moved to the suburbs. 'Cause I can't find decent pizza or
Italian beef nearby!

A couple of years ago my 90 year old Aunt in Arlington Hts became
terminally
ill. My brother, from Michigan and I both traveled there to be with her
as
she had no other family. The three weeks I was there much of our dining
was
on pizza and Italian beef. When I arrived home in Florida I jumped on
the
scale only to find I had gained 13 pounds.

Haven't found a decent pizza joint here. There have been a couple of
places
that opened and served pretty good Chicago style Italian beef but
neither
of
them lasted very long.

When I first moved to Florida I walked into a "Italian" pizza restaurant
and
ordered an Italian beef to go. They looked at me like I just fell out of
tree, they had never heard of such a thing. I didn't realize it's a
thing
pretty much unique to Chicago.

Yep.

Another "thing" is ordering pickle on your hot dog. Nice big fat
slice of pickle. And real mustard, not the crap mustard most hot dog
places have. Properly chunked spanish onions.

mmmmmm.....

You forgot the celery salt and tomato and sweet pickle relish and poppy
seed
bun and....- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


There's plenty of authentic ethnic foods in Florida. It's a whole
industry catering to snowbirds.

I don't know what type of ethnic food you are referring to, but other than
Latin food stuffs in South Florida I haven't found a wide variety in my
time here. I'm referring to the raw material to prepare for yourself at
home.

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"Salmon Bait" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:07:20 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 11:31:17 -0500, Salmon Bait
wrote:

Actually I prefer having money spread out across several banks, If
nothing else, it is easier to "fire" one that isn't treating you right
if you have another bank you can swap into.

I'm down to two. It makes record keeping much easier.
--

What is so hard about the "record keeping"? My accounts all get
separate statements anyway, even if they are in the same bank.
It is actually pretty hard to stay diversified when the big fish are
eating the little fish. I know some bankers who say one day there may
only be one big bank and the Federal Reserve.

Tax preparation.
--
Red Herring

Tax prep software.

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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:10:05 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:54:41 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:28:31 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:



Another "thing" is ordering pickle on your hot dog. Nice big fat
slice of pickle. And real mustard, not the crap mustard most hot dog
places have. Properly chunked spanish onions.

mmmmmm.....

You forgot the celery salt and tomato and sweet pickle relish and poppy seed
bun and....

The list goes on. And people here still argue about where you get the
best this and that, but are in general agreement about some.
We haven't mentioned gyros, and I've got a place on Milwaukee avenue
that was my favorite. Gyros sliced so thin you could see though it.
Mom and pop operation called 3 Sons. Don't know if it's still there,
as the old man was getting up in years.
But gyros is real manly stuff, and some don't have the stomach for it.
Even had me burping for days afterwards.

I don't care for gyros - they just don't settle right. :)

Speaking of odd things you don't find except for (name the place)...

Frozen custard.

There's a place out on Greenfield Ave and W. 57th (I'm doing this by
memory - it's been a while) in West Allis that has hand made frozen
custard. My favorite is French Vanilla second to coffee.

To freakin' die for.

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D.Duck wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:59:44 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


Actually it's I-94 and Wisconsin 50, just a couple of miles north of the
border. I haven't been there in probably 25 years but we started eating
there in the '60s. Hwy 50 is the route we took to Camp Lake where we had a
home on the lake.

Just for fun I Goggled it, low and behold, it's still there after 46
years.

Three things I miss since leaving Chicago area are brats, good pizza and
Italian beef sandwiches.

http://www.bratstop.com/contact.htm

If you do stop there, have a couple for me.

Thanks, I saved it. You've given me the idea to go to Kenosha
and maybe visit the waterfront. Real quick trip compared to going out
on I-90 to see farms.
You got that right about pizza and Italian beef. I hardly ate brats
until I moved to the suburbs. 'Cause I can't find decent pizza or
Italian beef nearby!

--Vic

A couple of years ago my 90 year old Aunt in Arlington Hts became terminally
ill. My brother, from Michigan and I both traveled there to be with her as
she had no other family. The three weeks I was there much of our dining was
on pizza and Italian beef. When I arrived home in Florida I jumped on the
scale only to find I had gained 13 pounds.

Haven't found a decent pizza joint here. There have been a couple of places
that opened and served pretty good Chicago style Italian beef but neither of
them lasted very long.

When I first moved to Florida I walked into a "Italian" pizza restaurant and
ordered an Italian beef to go. They looked at me like I just fell out of
tree, they had never heard of such a thing. I didn't realize it's a thing
pretty much unique to Chicago.



Are you talking about Dago Beef?

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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:34:52 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Salmon Bait" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:07:20 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 11:31:17 -0500, Salmon Bait
wrote:

Actually I prefer having money spread out across several banks, If
nothing else, it is easier to "fire" one that isn't treating you right
if you have another bank you can swap into.

I'm down to two. It makes record keeping much easier.
--

What is so hard about the "record keeping"? My accounts all get
separate statements anyway, even if they are in the same bank.
It is actually pretty hard to stay diversified when the big fish are
eating the little fish. I know some bankers who say one day there may
only be one big bank and the Federal Reserve.

Tax preparation.
--
Red Herring

Tax prep software.


Now. It's good stuff.
--
Red Herring

Will losses at Bank of America...
 

On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:01:24 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:



Speaking of odd things you don't find except for (name the place)...

Frozen custard.

There's a place out on Greenfield Ave and W. 57th (I'm doing this by
memory - it's been a while) in West Allis that has hand made frozen
custard. My favorite is French Vanilla second to coffee.

To freakin' die for.

I seem to remember eating that once, though I've only been there for
the state fair. The local "delicacy" I always remember hearing about
is that Michigan pastie. Just something about that name gets me
hungry.

--Vic